There is an old saying in embedded circles that I revolve that evolved
from Arthur C Clarke "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic." Engineering version states "Any
sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice"
Also I'll quote you on throwing under the bus thing :) (I actually
like that justification)

On 1 December 2016 at 17:28, Chris Murphy <> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Tomasz Kusmierz <> 
> wrote:
>> Please, I beg you add another column to man and wiki stating clearly
>> how many devices every profile can withstand to loose. I frequently
>> have to explain how btrfs profiles work and show quotes from this
>> mailing list because "dawning-kruger effect victims" keep poping up
>> with statements like "in btrfs raid10 with 8 drives you can loose 4
>> drives" ... I seriously beg you guys, my beating stick is half broken
>> by now.
> You need a new stick. It's called the ad hominem attack. When stupid
> people say stupid things, the dispute is not about the facts or
> opinions in the argument itself, but rather the person involved. There
> is the possibility this is more than stupidity, it really borders on
> maliciousness. Any ethical code of conduct for a list will accept ad
> hominem attacks over the willful dissemination of provably wrong
> information. When stupid assholes throw users under the bus with
> provably wrong (and bad) advice, it becomes something of an obligation
> to resort to name calling.
> Of course, I'd also like the wiki to clearly state the only profile
> that tolerates more than one device loss is raid6; and be very
> explicit with the manifestly wrong terminology being used by Btrfs's
> raid10 terminology. That is a fairly egregious violation of common
> terminology and the trust we're supposed to be developing, both in the
> usage of common terms, but also in Btrfs specifically.
> --
> Chris Murphy
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