On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Ed Doolittle wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Dmitriy Zyablov wrote:
> > No results. You need to recompile sendmail without DNS support. But in
> > this situations sendmail will try to deliver mail immediately and if can`t
> > - returns error - this is good for uucp sites only.
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> I've been through all this already, and believe me, the simplest way is to
> run named on your server, with one of the two precautions I mentioned
> earlier.  From then on, configuring everything is simple, you can follow
> the standard advice in O'Reilly books, HOWTOs and FAQs, and you can use
> binary distributions of sendmail, etc., etc.

(O my English!!! ;-)

Last week I tried to make something with configuration of our site. Some
time before we were only e-mail provader for our university and city. We
worked with our provader via uucp (and have prices from it for every
kbyte!) and used smail 3.2 (no problems with smail!). Now we ready to
start full Internet project, it will be one mounth later, but today we
want to send and receive all mail throuth other provader with smtp.

You can see our configuration:

1) All mail must go from samuni.silk.org via eth0 to samarkand.uz and from
samarkand.uz to wolrd via smart_host. (this moment). samarkand.uz run
sendmail and diald.

2) All mail for silk.org, com.uz, org.uz, etc. must go to silk.org via
silk.uucp.

But diald start connection with smart_host (with Tashkent, 300 km, 7 sums
per min ($0.08 per min) every time when try to deliver message for any
address include silk.org because it want to ask DNS aboute MX. When it
find MX, it send mail via silk.uucp (!!!) :-) I can't give diald call
Tashkent for every mail - we have very big trafic. I think this is bag of
the sendmail 8.8.7 from RedHat 5.1 distr. I change sendmail from 8.8.7 to
8.8.8 from Debian and its work now fine, but any way it want to start
connection for every mail to smart_host and this is right. And what I
maked? I put in /etc/ppp/ip-up "sendmail -q" and in /etc/ppp/ip-down
"/etc/init.d/diald stop" and now I start diald every hour from cron! This
is not good way but... Again I want to say - the best way - recompile
sendmail without DNS and use uucp. If you dont want to make it - sendmail
will start diald connection every time!

Inside our university we use diald and smtp-based sendmail on some servers
and have'nt any problems - in this situation we dont need to pay money for
every call.

> I use uucp for incoming mail, but it's harder to convince my upstream site
> to accept my outgoing uucp mail, and I like outgoing mail to be sent right
> away anyway. 

Our provaders - silk.org have online but anyway they send outgoing e-mail
via smtp and receive via uucp throuth TCP/IP from glasnet.ru. I don't know
why.

Dmitriy.


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