On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
Lets call a spade a spade shall we...
This is a thinly veiled put-down of the people who have been doing Alan's
job for the last 7 months.
this did not read as a put-down to someone who hasn't been intimatly involved
over the last seveal months. remember that e-mail doesn't show experessions or
tone of voice, don't assume the worst intentions unless they are completely
clear.
As one of those people I don't take kindly to the inference that I have been
releasing substandard packages. Particularly given that I am the author of
the majority of the HAv2 code and therefor have arguably the most interest
in its quality.
the inferance was that you are releasing packages that haven't gone through some
of the testing that has proven valuble in the past history of the project.
Alan's attempts to reassert control over a project he routinely ignores are
almost always at the expense of the reputation and hard work of others.
This, like the recent threats of censorship, is something I will no longer
tolerate.
While it is true that in the past Alan's home cluster threw up some
interesting bugs, it is also true that it has not been the unique source of
a bug in over a year. There are now a number of other clusters out there
that do a better job at finding problems.
I'll not comment on the statements about release planning which are
laughable, if not outright insulting.
Instead I will simply point people in the direction of:
http://wiki.linux-ha.org/RoadMap?action=info
and
http://hg.linux-ha.org/dev/log/tip/MasterPlan.planner
and let you draw your own conclusions.
Had I the choice, I would gladly leave putting out releases to others.
However I see no reason to trust Alan with the task of providing timely
access to bug fixes for users of most major distributions. I no longer have
confidence in his leadership of the project and it remains to be seen how
long his renewed interest will last.
So I will continue to provide well tested, high quality package updates and
people can make their own choice.
what I (as a long time user of heartbeat) would prefer to competeing releases
and project fragmentation is instead some more discussion about what needs to be
done to have more official releases.
Due to the fact that people's involvement does wax and wane this should probably
have some way of allowing multiple people to make a release, but all releases
should go through what the project determins are the minimum set of tests.
up till now this minimum set of tests has included a lengthy test period on the
hell cluster, which not enough other people have had access to. If this cluster
can now be accessed by others to test, and everyone can agree on a test
methodology that must be completed sucessfully before a release then it should
be possible for people other then Alan to make official releases.
going the route that the kernel has gone with each distro patching the base
version and distributing slightly different things, but all named the same
version numbers is not the way I would want to see this project go. please try
to avoid this.
David Lang
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