On 08/05/2011 11:26 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi,
> I was the guy who intiate this thread with a simple question, but
> this thread has been re-oriented with other similar questions ...
> so I don't know who is answering to anybody else ... please Fabian,
> if you can just reopen my first msg in this thread, it would be nice
> for me ...

Yes you are right - so I will "rewind" the thread beginning from message
1 :)

> Thanks a lot anyway.
> Alain
> 
> 
> 
> De :    Maloja01 <[email protected]>
> A :     [email protected]
> Date :  05/08/2011 11:02
> Objet : Re: [Linux-HA] Antw: Re: location and orders : Question about a 
> behavior ...
> Envoyé par :    [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/05/2011 08:30 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>>>>> Maloja01 <[email protected]> schrieb am 04.08.2011 um 18:49 in 
> Nachricht
>> <[email protected]>:
>>> Hi Ulrich,
>>>
>>> I did not folow the complete thread, just jumped in - sorry. Is the
>>> resource inside a resource group? In this case the stickiness is
>>> multiplied. And sofor the stickiness could be greater than the location
>>> role (score).
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Yes, a group with about 20 resources has a resource-stickiness="100000" 
> 
> In this case - if I remeber that correctly the scores for a RUNNING
> group is 20*100000 -> 2000000 > 500000.
> 
> Can you describe your problem, what are you missing?
> 
> a) You want to have a RUNNING group NOT to do a fallback -> Stickiness
> should do that here: 2M ("active" node) >500K (preferred node) [if
> activenode <> preferred node ;-)]
> b) You want to have a STOPPED group to be placed on a specific node (to
> have an "ordered" administartion at least at the start-point -> location
> score should help here 500K (preferred node) >0 (not preferred node)
> 
> I miss the point where you argumented, that stickiness is not
> implemented as you expected it would be implemented. Could you explain,
> whats missing or wrong? Maybe we can try it in a state description like
> status-before (f.e. group on node1), change in the cluster (either event
> or admin based) and status-after (here the current implemented one and
> the one that you expected how it should work).
> 
> Kind regards
> Fabian
> 
> and a "location loc_grp_cbw grp_cbw 500000: node". As the group is
> somewhat indivisible, assigning varying stickinesses to individual
> resources just makes things unreadable and complicated. I feel that a
> group stickyness should override individual resource stickynesses, and
> not be used a a default stickyness for every resource in the group.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ulrich
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Fabian
>>>
>>> On 08/04/2011 03:10 PM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>>>>>>> Maloja01 <[email protected]> schrieb am 04.08.2011 um 12:58 in 
> Nachricht
>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>> On 08/04/2011 08:28 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't the stickyness effectively based on the failcount? We have one
>>>>> resource
>>>>>> that has a location constraint for one node with a weight of 500000 
> and a
>>>>>> sticky ness of 100000. The resource runs on a different node and 
> shows no
>>>>>> tendency of moving back (not even after restarts).
>>>>>
>>>>> No stickiness has nothing to do with the failcount. The policy engine
>>>>> could take both into account the stickiness (for RUNNING resources) 
> and
>>>>> the failcount for (RUNNING or non-running ressources).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you ever had a on-start-failure of a resource on a node the 
> failcount
>>>>> is set to infinity which means, the resource could not be started at
>>>>> this node.
>>>>
>>>> fabian,
>>>>
>>>> I know that, and the errors were removed by "crm_resource -C". Still 
> the 
>>> resource is happy where it is, and doesn't want to move away.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If the policy engine needs to evaluate where to run a resource it 
> uses
>>>>> the location/antcolocation/cololaction constraints, failcounts,
>>>>> stickiness and maybe some other scores to evaluate WHERE to run a 
> resource.
>>>>>
>>>>> So in my opinion the stiness does exactly what you are asking for.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately someone did a manual migrate yesterday, so I cannot show 
> the 
>>> scores that lead to the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ulrich
>>>>
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