On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Robinson, Eric
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I can think of 3 tooling changes:
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>> - ptest/crm_simulate
>> - hb_report/crm_report
>> - standalone crmsh
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>> Thats not /too/ bad in 4 years.
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> Fair enough. From my perspective, I was thinking of the fact that our first 
> cluster was rolled out in 2006, back when the documentation was all about 
> paul and silas. We now have production clusters that fall into 3 major 
> branches: monolithic heartbeat, heartbeat+pacemaker, corosync+pacemaker. When 
> I rolled out my first cluster, conventional wisdom held that a secondary 
> heartbeat channel via serial cable was a good idea. It was right there in the 
> docs! By the time I rolled out my second or third, that idea was scorned, and 
> understandably so. I kind of liked the heartbeat cluster membership layer, so 
> I was initially hesitant to move to corosync. Then there was some sort of 
> brouhaha over what would and would not be supported under RHEL, so here I am 
> a few years later with several cluster styles (R1, R2), different stacks and 
> a cornucopia of technologies and tools to keep in my head.

No argument that this is not ideal.

> It's been quite a moving target from my standpoint. Don't think I'm 
> disappointed with the results
>  , mind you. I'd rather struggle with the changes than pursue some of the 
> alternatives. But I would dance a jig if there was a single, unified 
> clearinghouse for downloads and up-to-date documentation.

clusterlabs.org/doc is as good as i can do for docs.
i try to keep it up-to-date and version specific (so that documenting
corosync 2.x doesn't obliterate the cman/plugin stuff).

packages are mostly in the hands of the distros though.
building the entire stack (and keeping it up-to-date) on all the major
distros is a massive job - i'd never get any actual work done.
and typically not easy unless you work for the enterprise distro
you're building for.

> Just getting my most recent cluster up and running has been an interesting 
> exercise, what with stuff coming from clusterlabs, clusterlabs-next, github, 
> scientific linux, and other places. And I'm still not there.

In theory you should at most need "scientific linux" (even
clusterlabs.org/rpm-next is somewhat optional) + your choice of
shell/gui.

> This latest cluster is finally working, mostly, except the dang thing wont 
> failover my drbd master-slave pairs.
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