On 11/15/2012 09:53 AM, Robinson, Eric wrote:
>> clusterlabs.org/doc is as good as i can do for docs.
>> i try to keep it up-to-date and version specific (so that 
>> documenting corosync 2.x doesn't obliterate the cman/plugin stuff).
>>
>> packages are mostly in the hands of the distros though.
>> building the entire stack (and keeping it up-to-date) on all 
>> the major distros is a massive job - i'd never get any actual 
>> work done.
>> and typically not easy unless you work for the enterprise 
>> distro you're building for.
>>
>> In theory you should at most need "scientific linux" (even 
>> clusterlabs.org/rpm-next is somewhat optional) + your choice 
>> of shell/gui.
>>
> 
> 
> It's a good site, and it is easy to see that a lot of work has gone into it. 
> For me, though, it seems there are a few gaps where historical knowledge is 
> assumed that a newbie does not necessarily have. (Case in point: I have 5 
> clusters in production and I have no idea what you mean by "cman/plugin 
> stuff.") There has been a lot of change and development over the years, and 
> there is a whole lot of Google noise, some of which can seem fairly 
> authoritative, but which is nevertheless dated. Also, for some reason, people 
> who write articles often don't date them, so when you're reading something 
> you Googled it is often not clear how current and applicable it is. This 
> leads newbies down long and fruitless paths. There's also a lot of repos out 
> there and it is not at all clear which is the best to use. (Case in point: I 
> originally used the clusterlabs repo, but then I was told to use the 
> clusterlabs-next repo--which seems to have worked--but now I guess I'm being 
> told that I should 
 no
>  rmally want to use the scientific-linux repo? I may have misunderstood.)

The cman plugin provides support for some of the Red Hat cluster tools,
like clustered LVM and gfs2 filesystem.

> I would be thankful for a web page that said something along these lines:
> 
> 1. No matter what else you may have read elsewhere, this is THE AUTHORITATIVE 
> source for the latest up-to-date information and downloads.
> 
> 2. Here's the right repo.
> 
> 3. Here's links to the sources.

For pacemaker, clusterlabs *is* the authoritative source. For corosync,
Red Hat is the authoritative source. Depends on what program you are
looking at for the rest.

> 4. Here's a glossary of terms, with identification of ones that are 
> outdated/deprecated and what they were replaced with.
> 
> 5, Here's the most common pitfalls that newbies experience.
> 
> 6. Here's where you can get community and/or paid support.

This is stated on the clusterlabs page, for pacemaker. In short;

Community:
- This list
- Pacemaker mailing list.
- IRC on freenode.net at #linux-ha and #linux-cluster.

> It's getting close to Christmas, so there's my wish list. :-)
> 
> --Eric

I'd like a pony and an extra day per week, please.

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