On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Gerd wrote:
> Hello Tomi, hello all,
>
> > Ahem, well, the reason Eskay Packet under DOS or similar systems under
> > DOS/Windows have a band monitoring tool built in is that on those
> > (stupid) platforms something as simple as "listen" is not possible. IMNSHO
> > there is _no_ reason to duplicate that kind of design in Linux. Linux is a
> > good multitasking operating system and the networking model nicely permits
> > running these things in separate programs that are well designed for their
> > purpose.
>
> I guess that is a question of philosophy. To speak for me
> personally, I'd prefer having all those functions together in a (maybe
> modular as a compromise) program package. This is the way I am
> most familiar with.
I'm with you on this too, Gerd. Fortunately, there exists such a program,
TNT. TNT is similar to SP (Eskay Packet), and while it works as a front-end
to DPBOX, it is also an excellent stand-alone packet terminal program. It
doesn't have the million or so remote features as SP, but it isn't as
complicated to set up. It will work with Linux kernel/ax25 ports, hostmode
tnc, kiss tnc (via tfkiss driver). It has //mheard (selectable) for remote
users, real-time monitor window in terminal (like SP 3-way split screen),
F11 monitor channel, huffman encode/decode in terminal qso and monitor,
Extended monitor (to monitor a specific callsign qso). Lots of goodies us
old-timer packet operators enjoyed when using Stupid programs like SP, GP,
etc. TNT also features AUTO-BIN, YAPP, and of course ASCII transfers either
remotely or as local operator commands.
Xconnect auto-routing, multiple mycall, unproto, optional password security,
extended //run. Oh, heck, it only uses one tty! It is a shameful
duplication of linux ax25 services, but dam, it sure is fun! I
feel guilty having this program running on my system, knowing I could be
using separate tty's for these features. Now, if this isn't bad enough, I
waste even more Linux resources by running JNOS on the same computer! And,
JNOS talks to TNT, and JNOS talks to DPBOX! What? 2 BBS's? Oh, sometimes
I feel just terrible when I think of all I am wasting. Oh geez, I just
remembered TNT also works as daemon, with a frontend socket reachable from
the networked computers (or locally) with tntc (tty) or xtntc (rxterm)
frontends. It's awful. ...pitifully wasting resources and working packet
like a champ!
> Here I am a lot regaled by programs such as Eskay Packet,
> Graphic Packet or The Other Packet ;)
Yep, talks to them all... even //rtt
> > You won't run out of virtual consoles on Linux unless you are doing
> > something really weird to occupy all of them. With X there is of course no
> > limit in that sense.
>
> But I'd rather be able to see it all on one screen or on _one_ single
> window. It is simply me liking that way of work better.
Me too. check out:
ftp://excelsior.kullen.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packet_radio/tnt/tnt1.9-pre1.tgz
But, check with me for a patch to ax25k.c if you want to use the kernel/ax25
ports. (there is a line missing, and the correction hasn't made the release
as yet.) tnt1.8 is the current "stable" release. tnt1.9-pre1 is stable,
and tnt1.9-pre3 is also, but contains a ax25k.c file that is not backwards
compatible with 2.0.x kernels, or libc. This is all moot if you don't use
kernel/ax25 ports.
If some consider this post "off-topic", my apologies, and I will gladly
continue discussions on a personal basis with anyone interested. There is
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> Cheers, 73
>
> Gerd
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