>>>>> "RA" == Richard Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    >> with relaying enabled and ORB is now blocking everybody.  Since
    >> ISP's cannot tell this before the fact, they feel that ORBS is
    >> being unduly harsh.

    RA> According to a message on linux-newbie, from the sysadmin
    RA> concerned, there is a 5 day grace period for ISP's who are
    RA> doing mail relaying, after the five days they will be placed
    RA> on the list if no appropriate action is taken.

ORBS gives no warning. None. I can say this speaking as a SysAdmin who
had one of his mail systems listed for a day.

It was a system with old spam rules that didn't catch a non-intuitive
double-@ form. The first I heard was an email in the middle of the
night saying we had been added.

I'm not a real big fan of ORBS. I personally use the RBL and I believe
the RSS. I prefer lists that trigger after an exploit, rather than
actively attacking systems and listing them.

Bob
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Robert Snyder, N2KGO                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ #20900813                           Listowner, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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