On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, John Ackermann wrote:

> Thanks for the plug, Jose!  The URL is right -- www.febo.com/layer-one/ 
> will get you there.

My pleasure, it really has been useful, so what is best than guiding others
in need there ?

> Overdeviation on 9600 causes a different problem than 1200 -- the 9600 
> issue is that you will run into the skirt of the IF filters if you're 
> deviating too wide, and that will cause distortion that makes the modem 
> unhappy.  

Of course, it is just a different kind of "clipping" and distorting the
data signals. I have had users that have overdeviated so heavily with 1200
baud that the "BUSY" light goes off during modulation ! 

> FM bandwidth can be "rule of thumbed" as BW = 2*(M+D), where 
> M is the maximum modulating frequency and D is the peak deviation.  
> Since 9600 baud has a maximum modulating frequency of 4800Hz, 3kHz 
> deviation results in a bandwidth of 15.6kHz, which is just about as 
> wide as a normal narrowband receiver can handle..

Close enough to 16 Khz so to squash one side to the IF filter skirt if you
are not exactly "on channel".

> Actually, the occupied bandwidth of 9600 baud is somewhat less than 
> this formula, which is based on voice and not data characteristics.  
> I've heard, but can't track down the reference right now, that a better 
> rule for FSK data is BW=2M+D, which would yield about 11.6kHz bandwidth 
> for a deviation of 3kHz.

That may account for the brickwall response from the G3RUH modems FIR
filters, which is not what you get when speaking to a microphone. 

> In any event, after taking any frequency error between RX and TX into 
> account (particularly at UHF), you don't have much slop to work with.  
> Overdeviation at 9600 baud is probably a bigger killer than overdriving 
> the audio at 1200.
> 
> 73,
> John N8UR
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.febo.com

I like this thread ! Thanks, John !

73 de Jose, CO2JA

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