Linux-Hardware Digest #720, Volume #9 Fri, 19 Mar 99 08:15:31 EST
Contents:
Re: HP 2100 and ghostscript (Grant Taylor)
Problem: install SUSE 5.3 with SCSI ADAPTEC 1505 AVA. ("joeri belis")
choosing a portable (Anders Peterson)
Re: Where do I buy supported hardware systems? (Ben)
Re: Need driver for Intel 82558 ethernet interface (COLIN Stephane)
Re: SMC EZ ethernet card trouble (Aris CRuz)
Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux (Mike Rivers)
Re: Canon BJC 6000 - supported (Jan)
Is Windows for idiots? (Re: X munges the graphics card?) (Guess Who)
Re: Iwill side2935UW SCSI Adapter and linux
Macromate ethernet card works (Bob Martin)
Re: $2500.00 DREAM machine ("Lee Sharp")
Re: Dual Pentium II support. (Nils Martin Fredriksen)
Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session falls flat)
(David Steuber)
Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session (Bill
Anderson)
Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session falls flat)
(jedi)
Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers (Richard Steiner)
Imation Superdisk as a backup device on RedHat 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session falls flat)
(jedi)
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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP 2100 and ghostscript
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:58:57 GMT
wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I was wondering: does the HP Laserjet 2100 work with ghostscript?
> I can't answer this question as I was down at the store looking at
> one of these myself. The question I got is why not choose the
> Postscript option.
Why not, indeed? The main thing is that it costs more.
> I realize that its not true Postscript, but rather an emulation, but
> this seems to be a far better choice than loading your machine down
> with Ghostscript.
The load from ghostscript is trivial on anythng from a 486 up. And in
some cases, your host will have more RAM than your printer; some
printers do not come with enough memory to print very complex pages at
the highest resolutions. While this is often less true of Postscipt
printers (the ps option usually comes together with extra RAM) it may
still be true.
> So to extend the question has anybody out there used the Postscript
> emulation available on the HP2100?? If so how and what were the
> results?
Yes, someone is using a 2100M uite successfully with Linux. This fact
is reported on the Printing HOWTO's compatibility listing at
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi
> Another question related to laser printer is Adobies PrintGear
> controller, anybody have experience with printers using these??
The only ones I've come across are the NEC SuperScripts. They are
supported only so far as they grok PCL; the full 600dpi requires
PrintGear to work, and I'm not aware of any work on this for Unix or
Ghostscript.
--
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
Cellphone information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/cell/
Libretto information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/
Linux Printing HOWTO: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/
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From: "joeri belis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem: install SUSE 5.3 with SCSI ADAPTEC 1505 AVA.
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:08:59 GMT
Problem: install SUSE 5.3 with SCSI ADAPTEC 1505 AVA.
Hi,
I am trying to install SuSE 5.3 on a new PC
with 2 SCSI CD-ROMS. The SCSI controller is
an ADAPTEC 1505 AVA.
When I boot to DOS all the SCSI drivers get loaded
and I get the following info:
PORT = 0x140
IRQ LEVEL = 10
SCSI ID = 7
Then I start the install of Linux
and the install procedure lets me
enter boot parameters.
I did the following:
aha2x=0x140,10,7,0
this is what all the SCSI howto's tell me anyway.
but still suse does not detect my CDROM.
I there anybody who can help.
Maybe send me a boot disk that worked for them
or another solution.
I would be a real shame that my new 400Mhz pc
should only have win98 on it.
My regards, Joe
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From: Anders Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: choosing a portable
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:57:51 GMT
I have a Toshiba Port�g� 300CT running S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3. My plan is to
buy a new (much better) portable and upgrade to S.u.S.E. Linux 6.0.
Most of the computers I�ve looked at, like the HP OmniBook 4150, use a
256bit NeoMagic graphics chip. Linux has no support for these (only
128bit versions). NeoMagic is by far the most popular graphics chip
today. All the better portables use the 256bit version. Linux will just
have to support it. Does anyone know when this will happen?
I found the MiTac MiNote 6020. It has a 100MHz system bus (the worlds
first I�m told), and an ATI RAGE LT PRO graphics accelerator with 8MB
SGRAM and full AGP 2x mode bus support. I like this.
The S.u.S.E. hardware compatibility database says that ATI RAGE LT PRO
is supported but not with LCD screens (not on portables).
VA Research sells the VarBook 120 preinstalled with Linux. According to
them everything except sound works (they�re working on that). �The
VarBook 120 - based on the popular NEC LX ��
The NEC Versa LX uses ATI RAGE LT PRO. The S.u.S.E. hardware
computability database must be wrong.
VA Research can�t supply the VarBook 120 with a Swedish keyboard (I
assume). NEC portables are not sold in Sweden. But, if the ATI RAGE LT
PRO really does work I can buy the MiNote 6020. Can anyone help me here?
Anyone have other suggestions for portables that work with Linux?
(including sound)
/Anders
--
Anders Peterson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], +46-(0)70-843 78 92
Optimatika, www.optimatika.se, +46-(0)8-614 50 05
Box 5671, 114 86 Stockholm, Sweden, (fax) +46-(0)8-15 31 00
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From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Where do I buy supported hardware systems?
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:06:55 GMT
Maybe ....
www.varesearch.com
there are some hardware links at www.linux.org that may be helpful as
well, lastly I saw an ad for Penguin something but can't remember the
exact name :(
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Good Day Everyone.
>
> I work for a systems house that sells complete business applications systems.
> We have moved from SCO Unix (OpenServer) to Linux (RedHat 5.x) for all client
> upgrades and new systems.
>
> We are looking for a single source of hardware systems, from small
> 'workstation' based (5-15 users) to full RAID systems (200-500 users, and
> even up to 1000 users or more). We are currently limited to RedHat on Intel.
> We need a company that can supply hardware support in any major city in the
> USA, Mexico and Canada. As yet IBM and Dell do not support RAID for Linux.
>
> Does anyone out there know of a company capable of meeting these requirements?
>
> Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Larry Troth
> Systems Engineer
> The Unicode Group, Inc.
> voice: (818) 678-2600
> fax : (818) 678-2609
> http://www.unicode.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: COLIN Stephane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need driver for Intel 82558 ethernet interface
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:08:30 GMT
Tom and Eva McGuigan wrote:
> I am trying to install Redhat 5.2 on a Compaq Professional Workstation
> AP400. I can't get Linux to recognize the ethernet interface.
>
> Compaq lists the interface as a Compaq NC3161 Fast Ethernet 10/100 WOL,
> based on the Intell 82558 chipset. The I/O Address is listed as
> autoconfigured.
> Does anyone know how I can get Linux to recongize the interface?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Mcguigan
Try to compil the kernel with support for :
[*] PCI Ethernet adapters
<*> Intel EtherExpressPro PCI 10+/100B/100+ support
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From: Aris CRuz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMC EZ ethernet card trouble
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:59:39 GMT
David Lisle wrote:
> Yes I too am experiencing trouble with an SMC Ether EZ. This card ran
> fine under a Windows installation but eth0 fails to initialize at boot.
> I notice that when the bootup messages scroll by that autoprobe detects
> the card, the following line gives the irq and io range for the card all
> of which concurs with my previous Windows setup. I have cleaned all
> other OS from my system and run only Linux (Caldera) 1.3 woth
> appropriate linux partitions by the book. Everything else seems to work
> fine.
>
> P.S. Do you know how to 'capture' the bootup output into a file?
> i tried > /etc/report.txt 2>&1 but didn't get what I expected.
>
> Any help on either of these topics would be great.
I'm having problems with smc cards also, but I am here to actually help on
capturing the bootup output, just do a dmesg |more, should show you the
info that shows up @ startup.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Rivers)
Crossposted-To: comp.music.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.music,rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Multi-channel soundcard for Linux
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:58:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I need recommendations for a pro-quality soundcard with 8+ outputs and
> S/PDIF I/O that has drivers for Linux.
I think Sonorus has Linux drivers for their StudI/O card. It's got two
ADAT lightpipe ports, and you can get converters between that format and
S/PDIF. Poke around at http://www.sonorus.com.
--
Mike Rivers (I'm really [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Jan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Canon BJC 6000 - supported
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:00:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rainer Koster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know whether the Canon BJC 6000 can be run with
> ghostscript?
The BJC 6000 is supported: Try Ghostscript 5.50, driver bjc600
I have a BJC70 also, and I can print on both printers with this driver.
Jan
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From: Guess Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Is Windows for idiots? (Re: X munges the graphics card?)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:42:43 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Szarka) writes:
>
> If only more linux users understood there are cases in which people
> don't want to run linux. I was talking to a linux user on irc about 2
> months ago and he was one of those "if you use windows your a fucking
> idiot" kind of people, and he refused to admit there are cases in
> which linux is not a better choice then windows.
>
"Idiot" is relative. Windows and Mac are both good systems for
beginners. Linux is not. But anyone who can handle Linux, or
any other variety of Unix-oid, is certainly more competent than
someone who can only cope with a beginner's OS.
I would never be so cruel as to throw a rank beginner to the mercies
of the unix command line. But anyone who tries to do serious work
with Windows or Mac is kidding himself.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Iwill side2935UW SCSI Adapter and linux
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:10:51 GMT
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:15:36 -0600, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is anyone using the Iwill SIDE-2935UW scsi adapter with linux? I am
>thinking about buying one, but it isn't listed in the scsi hardware
>compatibility list anywhere. Some advice on this would be greatly
>appreciated...I would hate to have to boot to windoze to use my scsi
>devices. Thanks
The Iwill SIDE-2935UW controller is supported in 2.2.x and in 2.0.x either
through patches or in 2.0.37. For patches and a RH 5.2 boot disk, check
http://www.xs4all.nl/~bvermeul/initio
If you have any problems, drop me a line, and I'll see what I can do.
Regards,
Bas Vermeulen
--
When I shop for hardware I always look for the "Designed for Windows 95" logo.
I really thank Microsoft(TM) for encouraging manufacturers to label their
products this way, so I know what to AVOID.
I stick to quality software:
Linux 2.2.3 | IBM OS/2 Warp (TM) v4.0
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Macromate ethernet card works
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:42:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If anyone is interested I have succesfully installed a macromate MN-220P
ethernet card with kernel 2.0.36 as a NE2000 clone. The card is
inexpensive, ~15$ US but it does work.
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From: "Lee Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: $2500.00 DREAM machine
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:08:49 GMT
Sean wrote in message <7cpr2r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
|compaqs are horrible computers. They are shoddily built and often are not
|expandable. You can rarely put a new motherboard into a compaq. I bought
|my computer from www.cgallery.com and was extremely impressed by the
|quality of the hardware and especially by the quality of the service.
There are basically two types of systems; production run <Compaq, Dell,
HP...> and clones. <Old gateway, US Computer, Micron...> Both are only as
good as the person making it. Clones have FAR more potential, in both
directions. The top machines are clones, but so are the worst.
Production run usually have locked motherboards, and a lot of on board
cards. The plusses are consistency and cost. The minuses are sub standard
components are locked in. <A good example is the IO control chip that could
not do a media detect on early DeskPro 2000s. This ment pool the CD and
wait for a timeout on each post>
For the hardware novice, the production run is usually a better choice.
It is a known quantity. It has more support. It is cheap. In that case, I
recommend Compaq business products. Of the production run boxes, they are
the best. <Need I say Packard Bell?> Presarios are trash... Any consumer
product is going to have serious trade offs, and I don't like them.
If someone knows enough to chose a clone wisely, I will tell the to go to
www.shopper.com, order up an Asus P2B, and go from there. If you know what
components are good, you can build yourself an awesome machine for under
$1500. <Monitor not included> Just my opinion...
Lee
--
SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is
necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. *
Black holes are where God divided by zero. - I am speaking as an individual,
not as a representative of any company, organization or other entity. I am
solely responsible for my words.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nils Martin Fredriksen)
Subject: Re: Dual Pentium II support.
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:10:59 GMT
Andrea Borsic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev:
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking to buy a fast machine for scientific calculation pourposes.
>For some constraints I'm looking to an Intel platform, so I cannot go
>Alpha.
>
>The idea is to buy a dual pentium II machine ( Dell Workstaion series
>210 ).
>
>The problem is this: will Linux support this machine?
>
>What matherboard chipset/BIOS is supported for SMP?
>
>Is there any standard for SMP motherboards?
>
>Any information about SMP motherboards/BIOSes is welcome.
>
>Thanks very much.
Yes, most probable. Check out the SMP FAQ for information on Linux and
mulitprocessor systems: http://www.irisa.fr/prive/mentre/smp-faq/
or its american mirror: http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/
I would in fact be more worried about support for the graphics card
and maybe the integrated network controller.
Nils Martin Fredriksen
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session falls
flat)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:42:36 GMT
"M. le Rutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> And than people still say Linux is ready for the desktop?
Well, I don't think this is a common problem.
I am running Linux on a notebook computer. Hardly a server or
workstation. It doesn't spend a lot of time on desktops though. I
play from the comfort of my bed.
I think Linux is ready for the desktop. It is time to expose ordinary
users to it and see how they really fair. It does need to be
preconfigured, of course.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
Where was it you said you wanted to go today? Sorry, you can't get
there from here.
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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:08:53 GMT
Jeff Szarka wrote:
> :>
> :> Perhaps, before complaining about missing capabilities of linux,
> :> you should first try to ask how to do things properly.
> :>
> :
> :It's too bad that one -has- to ask how to change a system property...
> :
> :- Robb
>
> I'm not trying to get in on any religious war here. I'm not in anyway
> trying to disrespect linux but I think many long time linux users
> forget that people don't have the time to relearn all these things. I
> picked up the basics of linux, it wasn't for me. I plan to try it
> again when there is another big milestone.
>
> I just want to point out the flaws from an outsiders view, you guys
> talk about just rerunning your xconfigurator, sure it's not hard. I
> can even do it and i've only used linux a little bit, but do you
> really think your average computer user who plays quake and checks his
> mail could do this? I'm sure he *could* but he wouldn't want to, and
> he really shouldn't have to.
Fine, but you should realize:
*If he doesn't want, or doesn't have the time, to learn a new os, he
should not be buying (or downloading) a new os.*
It is really that simple. Linux developers are *not* out to clone MS
Windows.
If windows200 had a different method, he would have to learn it, just as
he would have to learn to 'rerun a tool'.
Personally, I think common sense tells you "I used this to configure it,
I use this to reconfigure it". Maybe it is just me ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session falls
flat)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:42:58 GMT
On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:25:03 +0100, Henning Strandin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Don wrote:
>>
>> Gerhard Traeger wrote:
>> >
>> > On 14 Mar 1999 01:49:07 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Szarka) wrote:
>> >
>> > > Problem: I want to change my resolution.
>> >
>> > > Linux:
>> > > Edit config files and god know's what else
>> >
>> > He?
>> > Where�ve you got this one?
>> > Changing spatial resolution for X-servers is done by pressing
>> > <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Num "+"> or <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Num "-">
>>
>> I saw this and just thought I would add that it doesnt work for me. And
>> I still got a lot of stuff that doesnt work in the linux windows. After
>> 4 installs, I did get it to basically work, but it wont do anything once
>> you start it. I probably need to edit about 40 files to fix each
>> problem.
One simply runs the X configurator again and picks all the
resolutions they want to run in the various color depths
available.
>
>Probably not. Most config problems in the *nix world (in my experience)
>is of the 'columbi egg' type. Once you figure it out, it's usually
>proves to be a really simple problem.
>Check out the HOWTOs that probably came with your system. Ask on
>linux.setup (that means describing the problem fully). Once you get it
>worked out I bet you'll go 'Oh, was it that simple'.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:43:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here in comp.os.linux.setup, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (doole) spake unto us, saying:
>"Rufus V. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> apparently said this:
>
>>The point is that sometimes innocent people need their privacy.
>
>From Authorities? Why??
What happens if that Authority decides to use your information in a
manner which harms you? Or if someone else steals that information
from that Authority?
Blind trust can be foolish.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
"Paid off"? What does that mean?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Imation Superdisk as a backup device on RedHat 5.2
Date: 19 Mar 1999 08:11:19 GMT
Can use use the Imation Superdisk (120 mb & 1.44 mb floppy) as a backup device
under RedHat 5.2? Specifically, will tar, cpio, xbru, etc. write to it at the
120 mb format, and prompt for another media when it fills? I would like to use
this device as a "120 mb tape".
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: X munges the graphics card? (Re: Windows 2000 Rah! Rah! Session falls
flat)
Date: 19 Mar 1999 07:42:56 GMT
On 14 Mar 1999 16:58:02 -0600, Jeff Szarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:18:22 +0100, Henning Strandin
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>:Jeff Szarka wrote:
>:>
>:> On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:23:47 +0100, Henning Strandin
>:> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[deletia]
>:> Linux:
>:> Edit config files and god know's what else
>:>
>:> Why does everything have to be so inconvenient? I don't even care if
>:> you can get a program to let you do this, it HAS to come built in,
>:> ready to go, I don't want someone telling me I can download
>:> whateverdalskjflsa;djfla;sjdfl;.rpm or download the source and compile
>:> it. I just want it as simple as win9x/nt, end of story.
>:
>:Then don't use Linux. Simple. Of course, you'll have to live with the
>:instabilities inherent in Windows, but you can't get everything. It's a
>:matter of priorities. I'm not being sarcastic here, I consider it to be
>:a valid choice if that's what suits you the best. I surely wouldn't
>:recomend Linux to my mother for example.
>
>If only more linux users understood there are cases in which people
>don't want to run linux. I was talking to a linux user on irc about 2
>months ago and he was one of those "if you use windows your a fucking
>idiot" kind of people, and he refused to admit there are cases in
>which linux is not a better choice then windows.
There is a considerable difference between realizing
that someone might want to use an OS other than Unix
and actually believing that there are actually any
sensible non-market driven reasons for using WinDOS.
[deletia]
Someone not taking your pet OS at all seriously does not in
any way imply that that person doesn't take any other options
seriously.
If you can really deal with all the complexity a 'random collection
of spare parts' can dish out, Linux is not a thing. Otherwise, you
really should have been buying Apples,Ataris or Amigas all along.
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