Linux-Hardware Digest #730, Volume #12           Sat, 22 Apr 00 21:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Installing Linux on Primary Slave hard Drive?? ("Aaron Prohaska")
  Disk partition for linux install ? (Ted Taechun Pak)
  Re: Disk partition for linux install ? (Simon Lemieux)
  Re: Netscape froze my machine - now bios doesn't see my hdd ("Ronan")
  Re: Printer company support for Linux (Eric Laffoon)
  Re: Digital Multimeters. ("-hs-")
  Re: Digital Multimeters. (Mark McIntyre)
  Re: All in One mboard that works ("David Acklam")
  Re: Can someone pls help? ("David Acklam")
  Zoltrix FM-56e 2MB Rainbow Flex&V90 I can´t make it work-Would you help me, please? 
(Materia)
  Yamaha 8424S and Buslogic BT-930 problem (Bow-Yaw Wang)
  Wireless Linux - Cell Phone or other links? (Charles Tryon)
  Installing Linux on an NTFS  (Mik Keith)
  Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !! (Stuart Krivis)
  Re: Which of these Ethernet Cards? (Stuart Krivis)

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From: "Aaron Prohaska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Linux on Primary Slave hard Drive??
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:54:11 -0700

Can anyone tell me the best way to install Linux onto a Primary Slave hard
drive where the Primary hard drive has Win NT 4.0 installed on it? I want to
be able to choose which hard drive I am going to boot from. I remember
reading once that I had to use the NT boot loader to do this and not lilo,
can anyone give me specifics?

Thanks,

Aaron Prohaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Ted Taechun Pak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk partition for linux install ?
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:50:01 -0700


Hi,

I am running Win 98 in my 16 GB H.D.
The H.D. has already been paritioned into two, 8 GB each.

I would like to install linux but I don't want to dedicate all 8 GB into
linux. I heard I don't need that much for linux.

I have Win 98 installed in first 8 GB partition that I want to
preserve.  I want to divide the second 8 GB partition into two 4 GB
partition without destroying Win 98 in the first 8 GB partition.
How should I do it ?

Thank you in advance.



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From: Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disk partition for linux install ?
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:56:57 GMT

> I am running Win 98 in my 16 GB H.D.
> The H.D. has already been paritioned into two, 8 GB each.
> 
> I would like to install linux but I don't want to dedicate all 8 GB into
> linux. I heard I don't need that much for linux.
> 
> I have Win 98 installed in first 8 GB partition that I want to
> preserve.  I want to divide the second 8 GB partition into two 4 GB
> partition without destroying Win 98 in the first 8 GB partition.
> How should I do it ?

By splitting the second partition into two partitions, it would destroy the
second partition's content, but would never touch the first one...  So backup
that 2nd partition and that's it, just don't touch the 1st!

Hope that helps,
        Simon Lemieux

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From: "Ronan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Netscape froze my machine - now bios doesn't see my hdd
Date: 22 Apr 2000 23:02:08 GMT

It sounds more like your IDE cable is faulty or dirty. Same with thet other
posting, why don't you purchases another IDE cable.
R()M££z

Adam Schuetze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<39015b0a.472481@news>...
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using redhat 6.1.  This evening, Netscape 4.7 froze completely.
> It took down my entire machine.  I couldn't bring up another xterm or
> anything.  I waited a long time (half hour) before restarting my
> machine.  I was hoping that it would unfreeze if I left it alone, but
> it didn't.
> 
> So I restarted my machine (hard reset button).
> 
> When the computer rebooted, I saw the following:
> 
> UPDATED ESCD
> INSERT A SYSTEM DISK
> 
> Looks like the bios entries were updated?  Why would it do that?
> 
> The bios was not able to detect my hard drive.  If I boot up with a
> linux floppy, and try:
> 
> fdisk -l /dev/hda
> 
> it shows me nothing.  If I try 
> 
> fdisk /dev/hda
> 
> it says `no fixed disk' or something similar.
> 
> On bootup, when I normally see messages such as
> 
> Detecting primary master: Fujitsu blah blah blah
> 
> I see
> 
> Detecting primary master: no drive found
> 
> My bios is set to automatically detect my disk drive.
> 
> Has anybody ever seen this before?  A netscape crash managed to take
> down my entire computer!  I don't know what the hell to do.
> 
> Lost in space,
> 
> Adam
> 
> ps : I apologize for cross-posting to so many newsgroups.  I'm quite
> panicked by this mishap, and I want to reach as many readers as
> possible.
> 
> 

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From: Eric Laffoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer company support for Linux
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:29:54 -0700

John Bowling wrote:

> With the number of questions here about recognizing and/or printing on ink
> jets from Linux, I just checked the web sites of the four major brands that
> I know  of:  HP, Canon, Epson, and LexMark.
>
> Two of them, Canon and Epson, return nothing when a search for Linux is
> made.  They do some support of Mac OS but with special printers rather than
> special drivers.
>
> LexMark has server web software for handling print ques over the internet,
> but no specific printer drivers for non-network Linux systems.  These were
> for Unix and NT, and recently have RedHat Linuz (only) support.
>
> HP is the ONLY company making Ink Jet printers that is taking a major step
> forward in doing open support for Linux.  Check out this site:
>
> http://www.internetsolutions.enterprise.hp.com/linux/index.html
>
> So it looks as if the rest of the printer manufacturers want to throw away
> the business back to the origional ink jet printer company, HP.
>
> Let the others have what they want - toss their printers in the trash along
> with the MS garbage!  Certainly, don't every buy a non Linux replacement!
>
> John

Get your facts straight! HP is looking for enterprise business with Linux!
That's laserjet, most people here with printer issues have them with inkjets.
In this area while HP has a lot supported they often don't take advantage of
HP's high end proprietary printing. Lexmark ink jets are mostly win-printers
that are just now seeing support. Epson and Cannon are fairly well supported.

In all cases the support for these printers is user support!!!

So go buy a new HP inkjet and see if you get any support. Don't hold your
breath. Look here for a nearly up to date list of supported printers.
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi

===================================================
Eric Laffoon - The Quanta Team
http://quanta.sourceforge.net/


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From: "-hs-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: sci.electronics.misc,alt.energy.homepower,comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Digital Multimeters.
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:43:48 +0200

Bloody Viking a écrit dans le message ...
>In comp.os.linux.hardware -hs- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: What is your question about the C-language ?
>
>My question is how I would go about getting the reading from the device in
>Linux, of course, having to code in C.


If your device is attached to an I/O stream, use fread(). If not, no idea.
But perhaps the guys from the Linux forums would have a better idea ...


--
-hs- "Stove"
CLC-FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
ISO-C Library: http://www.dinkum.com/htm_cl
"Really?  When run on my machine, a printed copy of the C FAQ leaps
from the monitor and whacks me over the head.." -- Chris Mears CLC




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From: Mark McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: sci.electronics.misc,alt.energy.homepower,comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Digital Multimeters.
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:51:00 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:59:13 GMT, Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>In comp.os.linux.hardware -hs- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: What is your question about the C-language ?
>
>My question is how I would go about getting the reading from the device in
>Linux, of course, having to code in C. 

well, at a rough guess you 
1) open the port 
2) read some data
3) process it

However access to hardware is not defined at all in ANSI C so
unfortunately the people over here in C-land can't help you.
Furthermore your post is horribly off topic here.

Good luck in the other groups.
Mark McIntyre

C- FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html

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From: "David Acklam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: All in One mboard that works
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:08:56 -0500

Don't even bother!!!
There's no such thing as a good all-in-one mobo...

You will loose 4-8MB of your ram to the onboard video, and your video
display will be terrible...

Lan cards are $9/ea, not worth looking for in a motherboard...

Also, most on-motherboard sound cards are linux incompatible...

Your best bet is to get a motherboard and the associated PCI cards...

mopi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for an all in one [ lan , xvga , sound ] motherboard that
> works with current linux kernals - working usb is optional.
>
> mobo lan needs to support boot from lan
>
> Please post if you know one that works - or even one that does not
> work so I can drop it from list.
>
> tia
> Paul



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From: "David Acklam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Can someone pls help?
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:10:58 -0500

The reason for your 'not cleanly unmounted' problem is that
to turn off your computer under linux, you MUST login as root and type
'shutdown -h now'. Unlike Windows, where this is 'reccommended', UNIX
computers MUST BE PROPERLY SHUT DOWN to avoid data loss.

Similarly, proper rebooting is accomplished by typing 'shutdown -r now'.
The commands 'reboot' and 'halt' work on most systems as well.
Failure to use these message results in the 'not cleanly unmounted' message,
and the automatic launching of 'fsck', the linux/UNIX equivalent of
SCANDISK.EXE.

Also, you want to use the cusom install anyway (trust me), so just go that
route by default.

eliz154 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8dt7sa$bbe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
> I have a 6Gb hard disk.  I want to delete windows, and give linux the full
> 6Gb. Can anyone pls tell me how to do this with Disk  Druid?
> I've manged to install but when linux boots up and does all it checks it
say
> "hda1 not cleanly mounted right check forced"  How do I mount the
partitions
> right?
>    When I delete all windose partitions, and try to install linux with
> "workstation installation" it goes back to "custom" setup and then asks me
> to make partitions.
> When I go into linux conf then state of the system, it tells me that " the
> state of the system is not in sync with the current/update configuration"
> and "you can look at the things that will have to be done to make the
system
> current"  The thing this might have something to do with the partitions.
Can
> anyone pls help me with my problems??
>
> This is what I've used for my partitions. Can anyone pls suggest something
> better??
>
> hda 1 linux native 900 mb
> hda 5 linux swap 128 mb
>
> I'm installing Definite linux version 7 (which is the same as Redhat
linux)
>
>
> Thanks
> Eliz
>
>







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From: Materia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Zoltrix FM-56e 2MB Rainbow Flex&V90 I can´t make it work-Would you help me, 
please?
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:20:32 +0200

I using Linux Mandrake 7.02 and a Zoltrix External modem FM-56e. Well,
I just going nuts trying to make it work, but without success. This is
what I did.

Run setserial -g /dev/ttyS?
Results: 
ttyS0 3f8 iqr4
ttyS1-----unwnown
ttyS2 3ef iqr4
ttyS3 -----unwnown


Run Kppp
Setup modem 
Query modem on ttyS2
Modem answers:

ATI3 v 2.300 019-305 - V90_2M_DLS
ATI4 Cibox
ATI5
ATI6 6DFF-pll L8571A Rev 36.00/36.00
AT7 Zoltrix International Limited

Press: connect
Debug Log says:
ATZ
OK
ATM1L1
OK
ATDT1111111111
Error

Lights on modem go on but dies again. No dial out result or connect to
ISP

Question: Do I have a Winmodem or similar?
Do I have an Interrupt conflict on ttyS0 & ttyS2? I tried to changed
in the BIOS but it won´t let me change serial 2. So latetly I changed
to "auto". No other card use any serial port anyway.
I tried setserial ttyS2 to kernel with parameters, but to no avail
What I´´am doing wrong here?
How I disable the interrupt conflict in the kernel


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bow-Yaw Wang)
Subject: Yamaha 8424S and Buslogic BT-930 problem
Date: 21 Apr 2000 16:05:20 GMT

Greetings,

Has anyone succeeded in using cdrecord-1.8.1a6 with Yamaha 8424S and
BT-930? My linux-2.3.99-pre5 box recognizes the CD-RW drive
correctly. However, if I execute the line

cdrecord -v dev=0,2,0 -speed=8 -data -dummy <disk_image>

the system always hangs. But when I use the option -V to get the trace
of SCSI commands, it goes through. Any suggestion?

Also, what speed people are using? And should I close the sector
size pins at back of the CD/RW driver? What is the best settings for
SCSI bus? I'm using asynchronous transfer mode, untagged queue and no
error recovery now.

Thanks,

Bow-Yaw

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From: Charles Tryon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Wireless Linux - Cell Phone or other links?
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:56:51 GMT


  I just saw an excellent thread on Wireless LAN technology on Linux, however
I'm looking for something a little different.  What support is out there for
cell technology or wireless Internet connectivity?  In other words, I want to
go out in the middle of a field, or at a customer site, and still be able to
access the internet.

  (I understand that this brings in a whole added layer of complexity since it
involves a celular ISP, but I can deal with that...  It's the Linux hardware
and software that I need.)


--

    Your Servant,                     <><
    B. Baggins                 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_________________________________________________________________________
    "Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!"
                  --Bilbo, after a scorching from Smaug.



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From: Mik Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Linux on an NTFS 
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:05:13 GMT

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install a version of Linux on an NTFS part ion without taking out the Nt
which is operating on a separate part ion.  Also what steps do I need to
take to prep the part ion that is going to hold the Linux OS.  The
partition I would be putting Linux on is empty and is formatted for NTFS
right now and is almost 5 GB.

All suggestions are welcome, thanks in advance.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Krivis)
Subject: Re: Guys,Guys BeOS For Linux Is Here !!
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:29:11 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 17 Apr 2000 13:25:55 -0400, David C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rod Smith writes:
>> 
>> BeOS was never available for 68k systems. NeXTStep did originally run
>> on 68k hardware (68040, I believe, although there may have been a
>> 68030 version). AFAIK, though, it only ran on proprietary NeXT
>> hardware, not on Apple hardware.
>
>NeXT later ported NeXTStep to Intel hardware.  This port is named
>OpenStep, and may still be available from some vendors.  It's a nice
>system to use and write code for, but your selection of apps is very
>slim.

OPENSTEP is kind of slow compared to FreeBSD or Linux on the same x86
hardware IME. It's also pretty limited in terms of what hardware is
supported. I also found that it didn't like large HDs...

However, the UI is great, DPS is simply wonderful, and there are some great
apps around for it. (Omniweb is the best web browser I've used, for
example.)

>> If you want to use a 68k Macintosh with something other than MacOS,
>> AFAIK your only choices are various UNIX offshoots. Apple offered one
>> for a while, although I think it's no longer available.
>
>A/UX is dead.  Don't even bother with it.
>
>It is quite different from the BSD/SysV-derived UNIX systems we're all
>used to.  It actually looks and feels a lot like MacOS - except that
>there is a layer of UNIX APIs underneath, where UNIX apps can run.

I heard that it was closely related to AIX. 

>I didn't see any mac compatibility mentioned on the FreeBSD web pages.

FreeBSD has never been ported to everything imaginable, including a toaster.
:-) "Do a few things, and do them very well." It is only recently that other
architectures were added.

NetBSD is the multi-platform king. It's a good OS, and has been ported to a
huge number of platforms. (Yes, Linux runs on a lot of hardware too, but I
still feel NetBSD is more hardware-agnostic.)





-- 

Stuart Krivis  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Krivis)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Which of these Ethernet Cards?
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:54:24 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:20:26 -0700, Darin Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would have to disagree with the 3Com bashing, the 3C905 (any version) is about the
>fastest 100MB network card there is and if you have a problem with it 3Com offers

I have seen reports that the Intel cards use less CPU.

>great support and a lifetime warranty, easily worth the $69 or whatever you pay in
>your area.  I also like the Intel cards as they work well under windows or linux and
>are also stout performers.  I tend to shy away from the bargain basement $19.95 cards

3Com seems to have done some odd things in the past in terms of changing
spec and providing drivers. They used to be the standard, but everyone I
know is now using other brands instead of 3Com.

ftp.cdrom.com uses an Intel card, so I'd say that the Intel is fast and
stable. :-)

The DEC tulip cards seem to be quite good. There is even an Intel-produced
version now, if you prefer Intel.

I am using a Kingston tulip-based card, and am quite pleased with it.
Kingston is a reputable company, and their warranty is good.

The only chipset I would really avoid is the NE 2000. There are a lot of
these, including some by Realtek.



-- 

Stuart Krivis  

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