Linux-Hardware Digest #105, Volume #9 Mon, 4 Jan 99 18:13:41 EST
Contents:
Re: This ongoing flame-fest ("DG")
Re: Install Problems: PCMCIA Amb8002, Sound Card ESS1869 on my (James Youngman)
AudioPCI (Daryl Yager)
Re: AMD K62-3d and 2.0.36 (Frank Miles)
Re: 3c905B running DHCP in Red Hat 5.1 (Allen Wong)
Re: Biggest hw change without rebooting? (Bill Anderson)
Re: Modem for Linux (Dan Nguyen)
Re: Requesting opinions on UPS /w Linux driver? (Gary Momarison)
Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations sought (John Hagen)
Re: how to drive lots of serial devices (Lucas Oorschot)
linux on winbook xlii (Michael J. Hopkins)
Re: Making SURE Linux doesn't WAKE UP (power-up)? (Shane Bearham)
Re: Creative Virbra16 and Linux ("Elvis")
questions about SCSI card, tape drive, and CD-R (Eric Wyles)
sound card problem ("alexander_futasz")
Create Bootable disk with LS-120 drive? (Dave DeGear)
Re: linux viruses ("x")
Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem (jedi)
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From: "DG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: This ongoing flame-fest
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:57:51 GMT
Yeah, well thanks for sharing your crap. Now go and stuff some vomit on your
face, pigfart !!!
Moriarty wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hey all...
>
>I personally like to read this and other Linux related newsgroups for the
>same reasons many of your others do: To learn from one another and help one
>another, if we are able of course... Unfortunatly, there is now a
flame-fest
>going on in this thread, and personally, I wish it would stop.
>
>I am not attempting to flame anyone on either the majority users or DG's
>side... I am just trying to clear the air... I mean, for many of us, USENET
>is more than just newgroups... USENET is a way of life... And, like in the
>real world, it is usually better for us to get along and become productive,
>than to always be angry and everything get destroyed in a heartbeat...
>
>To DG: I read your first post (the initial post that started this) that
>requested help from the members of these groups. I was going to respond to
>you, but I first (like usual) read the other people responses to your
>responses and, to be honest with you, after re-reading all the posts of
this
>thread over and over again, I fail to understand why you are so upset with
>us. In my opinion (and I'm sure yours and others will have differing ones),
I
>think many other people at first tried to help you find the easiest, least
>time-consuming way to solve your original problem. To be honest with you, I
>am all for the idea that one can log on to the net at any time and download
>either patches, updates, or the whole smoe of the Linux OS for free. The
fact
>that it was originally made available by Mr. Torvaldes in the source code
>format for free under the GPL is what has enable others and myself to
legally
>enhance and modify these sources and re-distribute them back on the net so
>that others, in whatever way they can, can benefit from the total sum of
our
>collective knowledge. Now, Mr. DG, I have collaborated with Microsoft
before
>on several projects and beta testing surveys, and I personally can tell you
>the frustration I felt when I needed to re-format my Windows partitions and
>do a complete re-install because of some renegade thread in a program which
>screwed it all up. I don't know about you, but if the only way you could
>restore Windows was to make a disk which has just the proper software,
tools,
>and drivers on it to just connect to your ISP, and then make the FTP
>connection each and every time the system dies, I think you would get
rather
>tired of repeating this task over and over again... I mean, a good complete
>software on Linux, in my opinion is over 500+ MB, and the basic Windows 98
>stuff is around what, 240 MB or so? And then, after you have spent the time
>required to download the software, then have to spend the time waiting to
>install it, you may be looking at several hours (based on the transfer
>figures you gave us at 500 MB/2 hours), and having a CD copy, in my humble
>opinion, would be a heckuva lot easier to keep on hand then to have to keep
>repeatedly downloading over and over again. When the earlier posters
>suggested that you make a purchase of one of the various CD-ROMS available,
>they were not trying to insult your intelligence, or take away your rights
as
>an Internet user - they (and I) were just speaking from the experience that
>years of tinkering and hassles of trying new things out has taught us. I
>believe one gentleman suggested you go to the Cheapbytes website
>(http://www.cheapbytes.com) and purchase the Linux distrubution for $1.99
>(w/Total shipping charges it comes to around $8.50 or so in US Dollars)...
>I honestly believe that these people were not trying to pick on you or
start
>a fight or deny you anything which you feel you are entitled to. I believe
>that they were under the impression from your posts that you had some past
>familarity with Linux (RedHat Distributions in particular) and were ready
to
>make the switch from Windows 9x as your primary OS to Linux. (I myself got
>that same impression after reading your initial posts based on how you were
>wanting to set up your hardware per your descriptions)... The reason why
they
>told you to buy the premade CD-ROM was to save you both time and money - I
>mean, didn't you yourself say that you didn't want to shell out the cash to
>get a CD-ROM burner? No offense to you, but in my opinion, $1.99 + shipping
>is *MUCH* *MUCH* cheaper than several hundred dollars for a *good*
>CD-ROM burner... I think maybe you mistook these other peoples posts as
being
>critical of you, when in fact (in my opinion) they were actually trying to
>save you some grief... Now, be honest with us here - when you first got to
>the point in your self-taught education, how many times did you get to the
>point where a re-install of Windows 9x was necessary? Several I bet. Now,
it
>is true, both of my opinion and of several millions of Linux users (and
>Microsoft also, according to their in-house memos) that Linux is far more
>stable an environment (especially for development and Net applications)
than
>Windows 9x / NT, but we also realize that nothing is ever perfect and that
>there is always the possibility of a crash or a major bug popping up where
a
>re-install of all systems maybe necessary. Now do you see why having a
backup
>CD-ROM would be desireable? I mean, all your drives are wiped: So, you
would
>have to 1. Set up Windwos 9x all over again. 2. Install the Internet FTP
>software 3. Configure the Net stuff 4. Dial-up/Connect and FTP all those
>hundreds of MB all over again... 5. Reboot and setup Linux... 6. Configure
>everything that you lost in the crash... 7. Fix every little minor detail
you
>may have missed... And so on and so on... With a CD-ROM, you could take a
>good two hours off of this process... Maybe you don't run a website (or
maybe
>you do), but I know that there are many on USENET who also double as
>webmasters and such, and if the servers are down, then they are losing
>money... Are you with me so far?
>
>Now, personally, I have no opinion on how you get your money or what you
>choose to do with it. if it is your money and you earned it, then you have
>ever right to do with it as you see fit. Same with what you choose to do
with
>your hardware and/or software you already own or already buy... If you were
>to decide to go out and buy a K7-500 Mhz CPU in 6 months or so, I would say
>more power to you, and I would support you in any way possible (as well as
be
>secertly envious :) The type of people who run OSes like Linux are the type
>of people who like to tinker, problem-solvers and developers who like to
get
>in and get their hands-dirty with new software and hardware, to push the
>technology envelope to the extreme (or as extreme as they can get)... In my
>opinion, if I am starting out on something brand new, and there is someone
>who obviously is more knowledgeable about it than me on it, I am most
>*defintely* going to try and learn from them or ask them their advise... I
>don't have to agree with it or do what they say... Nothing says that you
are
>obligated to what the members of this group suggest... (It is your money,
>your hardware, and your software, and your time, after all) We will not be
>offended in any way as long as you respect our rights to our opinions...
>Hopefully, most of the time we are right, or can point you in the direction
>to a place (A website, for example) where you can find it on your own...
But,
>like all things in life, sometimes we are wrong... But remember, the
>USENET is for anyone who has any ideas at all to come and participate and
>share what both the newer people are looking for, as well as gain
experience
>from the people who have more knowledge and familarity... But remember, at
>any time you are free to stop logging into your NNTP server... You don't
have
>to post... There will always be people who will disagree on anything with
>you, no matter what the subject... The fact that we are able to form
>different opinions independently from anyone else is what probably
seperates
>humankind from the lesser species on the planet... You know what I mean?
You
>came on this group posting a problem, and we responded (or at least some of
>us did) - I'm not quite sure why you became so upset... I am at a lost as
to
>why this thread even got started and continued...
>
>Maybe you are a natural-born troublemaker... These people do exist.
>But, since I know nothing about you, and I have never met you or
encountered
>you in my personal life to the best of my knowledge, I am going to treat
you
>with the same respect and dignity that I would give any person either on
here
>or in the real world... But, once you abuse that trust that people given
you,
>then it is usually *very* difficult, if not impossible, to regain what was
>lost, and build again from there...
>
>All I ask that before you launch your newsreader and flame me to the ends
of
>the Earth for this post, is that you try to see my side of it - our side
>maybe? - and realize that nobody was trying to tell you what to do... On
the
>net, nobody knows anything about anybody else until you yourself tell us,
and
>there are lots of ways that people can tell traits in other people...
Please
>also realize that many of the people on the USENET have been *very*
longterm
>Internet users (I myself have been online for over fifteen years now) and
>while we may be set in our weird little ways, on most technical topics, we
do
>know what we are talking about... Take it from those who know, and maybe
you
>will save time, money, resources, and maybe even more importantly, make
some
>new friends... Of course, and I am only going to say it once, you screw
>around with the wrong people, and it is quite possible that you will not be
>logging on for soem time without *quite* a bit of effort...
>DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Thank you. :)
>
>I hope that DG and anyone else who reads this message will send me some
>feedback on this, whether good or bad... I welcome all opinions - good,
bad,
>indifferent, or completely new fresh ones... :)
>
>Thank you for your time and for your attentive patience... Take care, and
>have a good day...
>
>Moriarty
>
>
>
>
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Install Problems: PCMCIA Amb8002, Sound Card ESS1869 on my
Date: 04 Jan 1999 20:53:41 +0000
Srinivasan Chakravarthi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I installed Red Hat Linux 5.2 (Apollo) from a freeware CD. The
> installation (including partition for win98) went fine, except that I
> cant get it to recognise my Ambicom Amb8002 PCMCIA card. cardmgr exites
> with an error:
> 'no /proc/devices found' . I am a novice to Linux installation and can't
>
> figure out whats wrong.
ls /proc ?
>
> Also, the sound card ESS1869 is recognised but says resource busy. I saw
>
> quite a few questions on the net with this problem but couldnt find any
> threads explaining how to resolve it.
Looks like the sound driver thinks the sound card is configured to use
an IRQ which is already in use by something else.
--
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daryl Yager)
Subject: AudioPCI
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:16:49 GMT
Running kernel 2.2.0-pre4, AudioPCI works! Sound quality's kinda
funky, but I'll get around to fixing it. Eventually. I Built 1370
support into kernel, not as module.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Subject: Re: AMD K62-3d and 2.0.36
Date: 4 Jan 1999 16:11:21 GMT
In article <76qd3r$2jq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, BL <no.spambots.please> wrote:
>Larry D Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I have been running a K2-350 at 400 for 2 weeks continuous without any
>: problems (NNTP/WWW server on the internet).. I think the key is getting a
>: solid motherboard. And it's much faster than a Pentium II or Celeron.
>
>I once thought so. then I did a test with 2 100mhz systems (as close as I
>could get, with parts on hand). I have:
>
>k6-2/300 128meg sdram
>p2-350 128meg sdram
>
>both at 100mhz bus.
>
>I did a 2.0.36 kernel compile with same options and the p2 system came in at
>under 3 minutes. the k6 system came in at well over 3 minutes.
>
>the difference was pretty significant - but I don't have the exact numbers
>handy. and both systems used the same kind of 7200 disk (udma).
Hmmn. Is the UDMA drive used supported as such on your hardware? Or is
it running in EIDE mode? And could you be more precise about the "under 3"
and "well over 3" minutes, please?
Thanks...
-frank
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From: Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,rec.models.railroad,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: 3c905B running DHCP in Red Hat 5.1
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:24:36 -0800
Edgar,
You need to upgrade the 3Com 905 driver. Here's what the relevant
passage of my dmesg output shows:
3c59x.c:v0.99E 5/12/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
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From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Biggest hw change without rebooting?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 14:17:00 -0700
> IDE drives crash windows, when accidentally the cable dislodges :)
>
> Vid cards aren't particularly happy, either. Never tried this on a
> dual vga/herc config, tho.
I had a video card get slipped out of its socket and all was happy ...
was an a DEC box tho.
>
> Ethernet cards have to be detected by the kernel on boot up. I think
> removing it removes it from the list of detected devices, after which
> you need to reboot to redetect.
>
How about insmod'ing the module (if compiled for modules)?
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem for Linux
Date: 4 Jan 1999 20:06:00 GMT
David Akins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I just bought a 3COM US Robotics 56 Data/Fax Modem Internal for use on
: my Linux server. Unbeknownst to me, it's 100% Plug-and-Pray - no
: jumpers. Anybody got experience running this modem with Redhat 5.2?
: Recommend a better internal modem? I know I should go external but I
: always seem to have problems with serial ports when I run an external.
Program called isapnp. Which can help configure your plug and play devices.
--
Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Requesting opinions on UPS /w Linux driver?
Date: 04 Jan 1999 08:46:17 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Snyder) writes:
See Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/ups.html
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From: John Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations sought
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:29:43 GMT
James A. Cleland wrote:
>
> If you REALLY want to run 1600x1200, I would reccomend a 21" monitor. I'm
> using a Viewsonic G810 now and I really like it. The display is really
> clear. Someone else mentioned a Nokia. I imagine if he was that impressed
> with their 19", their 21" must be worth looking at as well. I don't know
> anything about Nokia, but I do love my Viewsonic. Check 'em out.
>
Hey, what video card are you using to drive that big monitor? Does it
flicker at all?
I'm considering either of the 21" IIyamas or the Viewsonic G810 and
don't know what video card is required for flicker-free operation.
Will a Matrox G200 (250 MHz RAMDAC) do well here?
Cheers,
--
john hagen - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Lucas Oorschot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to drive lots of serial devices
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 17:56:45 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sven Koenig wrote:
>
> I have lots of devices with a serial interface, and only one more PCI
> slot in my PC. Are there any cards out there with several serial ports
> or cards that can multiplex several low-speed serial devices? I am
> looking for cards that are cheap and for which a Redhat driver is
> available, if possible.
>
> Thanks for your help!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Sven
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have a look at www.moxa.com. They sell lots of different cards. Some
don't need a special driver (available in the kernel already) and for
others they have drivers available.
cu
Lucas ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael J. Hopkins)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: linux on winbook xlii
Date: 4 Jan 1999 16:50:34 -0500
I'm gearing up to purchase a new laptop, and have gotten interested in
the winbook xlii. I'm wondering if anyone has gotten linux to run on
it. I've checked the linux-on-laptop page and it doesn't seem to be
mentioned. I'm worried about the dual tracking devices and the video
chipset (the ATI Rage Pro LT). This device is listed as unsupported,
but it seems to be the same one as in the Dell inspirion 7000, on
which folks seem to have had a lot of success running linux.
In general though, any experiences anyone wants to share about
this laptop? Comparisons with the XLi? Any other comparable
laptops I should be looking seriously at?
Thanks in advance,
Michael Hopkins
--
Michael J. Hopkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Shane Bearham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making SURE Linux doesn't WAKE UP (power-up)?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 03:33:28 +1100
> The reason I need this is I want to be able to go to sleep without
> having to turn off my machine, and in order to do that I have to MAKE
> SURE Linux will not wake up; not just because it might wake me up, the
> important thing is I aim to switch off the noisy CPU fan and the power
> supply fan! This means if the computer were to wake up during the
> night while I'm asleep it could be devastating to my hardware.
Shhhhh....... don't wake the computer *grin*
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From: "Elvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creative Virbra16 and Linux
Date: 4 Jan 1999 22:06:21 GMT
Hello,
Same card, Slackware3.4 kernel 2.0.34. I just watcht my bios detect the
card and compiled a new kernel with sound support, filled in everything
I've found and playd a bit with the stuff I didn't know...
Works fine.
Greets,
Jeroen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article <76mchu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I just set up the same card yesterday. The only difference I see is
> that I have RH 5.2. This card doesn't support DMA's 5, 6, or 7.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 12:10:23 -0500, "Tim Gajewski, KU4IY"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hello Everybody,
> > I am having problems with my Creative Labs Vibra16X PnP and Linux.
> >It reconizes the card when I type sndconfig, I select my I/O, IRQ, and
> >DMA. It writes the file and when goes to play the sound clip, I get the
> >following message: "An error was encountered running the modprob
> >program"
> >I am running RH 5.1 with kernel 2.0.35. I have taken out all cards (NIC
> >and modem) that might confilict with the sound card. Does anybody have
> >any ideas?
> >
> >Tim
> >
>
>
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From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: questions about SCSI card, tape drive, and CD-R
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 15:37:07 -0600
Hi, I have just a few questions. First of all, I need to find out
if there is any way to get my SCSI card working. The card is an Adaptec
AVA 1505a and I am running Red Hat 5.1 straight out of the box. I have
not customized the kernal in any way.
Second, if I get my SCSI card running, I need to know if my SCSI tape
drive and CD-R will work. My tape drive is a Tandberg TDC 3600 and the
CD-R is a Panasonic 7502b.
Finally, I need to know some software to use to perform backups using
the tape drive. I have never used a tape device in linux before, so any
help on the subject would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Eric Wyles
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From: "alexander_futasz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound card problem
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:19:29 +0100
hi.
although i've read all HOWTO's i could find i don't get it to include the
sound card driver into the kernel.
i have a debian linux (kernel 2.0.30) and a logitech soundman wave. when i
use 'make menuconfig' to configure the kernel everything works fine, but
during compilation of the kernel 'make zImage' stops with the following
error:
[ ... ] unresolved symbol DMAbuf_init
[ ... ] unresolved symbol audio_init
[ ... ] error 1
why that? also when try to include the sound card driver as a module it
doesn't work. in this case the compilation of the kernel works fine, but
when i try to load the module with 'insmod sound' the same error is
provided.
can you help me please?
cu alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave DeGear)
Subject: Create Bootable disk with LS-120 drive?
Date: 4 Jan 99 09:07:44 -0700
I just installed RedHat 5.2 yesterday and tried to create a bootable disk
during the installation. My only 3.5" disk drive is a LS-120 by Imation
and it wouldn't create the diskette. Is there a way to create a bootable
diskette using this drive? Please be very explicit in your instructions
because this is only Day 2 for me running Linux. :-)
--
Dave DeGear, Chemistry Technician Phone: (250) 755-8709
Malaspina College FAX: (250) 755-8749
Nanaimo, BC, Canada V9R 5S5 INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "x" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux viruses
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:17:07 -0800
thank you for all your help on this question
x wrote in message ...
>is it possible to get a virus protector for linux?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:13:01 -0800
On 4 Jan 1999 11:00:21 -0500, Michael David Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Larry Pyeatt) writes:
>>In article <76ca96$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael David Jones) writes:
>>> This is where the Linux crowd needs to get a good stiff double shot of
>>> the real world. People buy winmodems. They buy them because they're
>>> cheap, and because they're good enough for most people's needs.
>>Bullshit. People buy winmodems because they don't know any better.
>>The people selling computers can put a few dollars in their pockets
>>and lower their prices at the same time. They do not go to the
>>effort of actually telling their customers that they are getting
>>a winmodem or what it means. They do not explain to the customer
>>that their modem will cease to function when they upgrade to NT.
>>Caveat Emptor!
>
>Most of those (home) customers aren't likely to upgrade to NT before
>they scrap the cheap machines they bought, so what does that matter?
>The fact is that people *are* buying winmodems and not returning them
>in large numbers, which is a strong piece of evidence that they are
>"good enough" for those users.
>
>>> If you want those people to consider Linux, you need to make it work
>>> with the hardware they have.
>>As soon as MS shows how it can be done with NT, then I will believe
>>that it can be done with Linux. Until then, it is a waste of time.
>
>Lucent says they have NT drivers for at least their winmodems.
>
>>> It's really funny, you know. I'm a Unix-head from
>>> way back, and my first exposure to Linux was from people raving about
>>> how it would run on just about any old cheap, crufty hunk of silicon.
>>> Now, suddenly, winmodems aren't good enough for the Linux crowd. Well,
>>> fellas, I can only say: fish or cut bait.
>>Linux does not run on 8086 or 6502 processors either. There is a certain
>>minimum level of hardware support that is needed for Linux and NT. It is
>>not a matter of being old and crufty. Winmodems are simply a bad idea
>>on a real multitasking OS.
>
>There you go again. You know, Unix lost the desktop once by holding
>out for "good ideas" instead of giving people what they wanted. Linux
>is probably our last shot at fixing that mistake. You know, even
>Mercedes have cupholders these days.
Then get writting if it's so necessary.
--
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Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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