Linux-Hardware Digest #105, Volume #10 Tue, 27 Apr 99 02:13:30 EDT
Contents:
Re: ASUS CD-S500 and cdparanoia? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Programmers are gods (Jonathan Revusky)
Re: making linux go away ("Alma J. Wetzker")
New Cables/Cabling Info Site! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: mirroring with slakware? ("Bob Bevins")
Re: making linux go away (Christopher Mahmood)
Several Linux Problems from Newbie (Mike Baranski)
Re: ASUS P5AB (Peter Stein)
Re: ASUS P5AB (Peter Stein)
Problem with Adaptec SlimScsi 1460 and kernel 2.2.x (Micah Kornfield)
Sound blaster pci64v ??? ("Eric SIMON")
Re: Problems with an Adaptec AVA1502AE SCSI host card (Eric)
Re: Programmers are gods (Steve Mading)
Re: Setting up the modem (Chris Lachaux)
Re: Help: RH5.2, 8-bit Soundblaster(2.1) and mpg123 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MouseWheel support in Linux (Brian Servis)
Re: Adeptec AHA-1535A adpater (BradStewrt)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ASUS CD-S500 and cdparanoia?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:00:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tom Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Anyone tried this combination? I'm after a fast CDROM which will rip CDs
> > well under Linux. What do most people use?
> >
> I use an ASUS IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM (40Xmax), with SCSI emulation.
> For cdparanoia, you don't actually need a fast CDROM, as
> the program itself is not fast...
Not true; cdparanoia is only as fast as the drive itself. The Asus 40x is
not a speed demon reading audio. Verification does exact an overhead,
however it is still bottlenecked on how fast the drive pulls off the data.
Run cdparanoia with -Z and you'll see the drive at full speed.... but with no
error correction.
Monty
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From: Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:53:23 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>
> In article <7g1kcs$s12$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Donal K. Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <7ft0cd$1ggo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Ben Z. Tels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> If you don't document your assertions, you are dead. That's all
> >>> there's to it.
> >>
> >> How about a compromise: comment the parts that wouldn't be obvious
> >> to people who understand the code well enough to improve it.
> >
> >Comment your code so that they describe what you would like to
> >happen. Like that if it turns out that it doesn't do what is
> >intended, someone else might be able to figure out how to fix it.
>
> I've forgotten the source of the quote, but if the comments and
> code disagree, chances are they are both wrong. Why does
> everyone seem to think that a programmer would get 'what he
> would like to happen' right and describe it eloquently in
> prose, yet get the coding wrong?
Oh, that's easy! Because human beings' ability to produce and process
natural language, i.e. English, French, Chinese, or whatever, is the
product of millions of years of evolution. It's something that people
are inherently good at. Even the dumbest people are much better at
natural language than any computer.
By contrast, people are not good at coding algorithms in artificial
languages such as C or perl or java. They continually trip up and make
mistakes.
Thus, once you see things this way, it is not at all surprising that a
human will frequently "get it right" when describing in natural language
how an algorithm is supposed to work, yet make some coding mistake such
that the algorithm doesn't quite work. You see..?
I thank you for giving me the opportunity to clear up this conceptual
difficulty for you.
Jonathan Revusky
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From: "Alma J. Wetzker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:41:18 -0500
Use fdisk /mbr. That will rewrite your Master Boot Record with the old
DOS one. You can also install Win9x, which rewrites the boot record for
you without asking.
-- Alma
mike mathog wrote:
>
> I did an install of Red Hat at one point, and now I just want it gone.
>
> Using FDISK to blow away the partitions though doesn't seem to do the
> trick. The LILO boot still comes up. If I disconnect the drive and put
> another one there even, then the machine just keeps asking me to reboot
> over and over.
>
> How do I get rid of Linux in the boot sector (I guess that's where it
> is) once and for all?
>
> thanks,
> -mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Cables/Cabling Info Site!
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:46:04 GMT
Hello everyone,
Finally a site dedicated to cables/cabling!
http://www.cablingdirectory.com
Check out the Q&A Board (Questions and Answer Board) if you get a
chance!
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From: "Bob Bevins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mirroring with slakware?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:46:57 GMT
Rod Roark wrote in message <7fv5bc$j0c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Bob Bevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>IS there a way to mirror a drive? So the system writes to both drives at
the
>>same time or close to the same time?
>
>Sure. See http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Software-RAID.html.
thanks
>
>But don't plan on this being an alternative to backups. It's not.
Why is it not an alternative for backups. If I am writing to two discs the
same thing and the first one fails
then i could just boot off the second one no?
>-- Rod
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>http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
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From: Christopher Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: 26 Apr 1999 02:53:32 -0700
you have to call microsoft support for that one...
-ckm
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From: Mike Baranski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Several Linux Problems from Newbie
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:53:57 -0700
Hi, I appreciate any and all help
1. I only have 8 megs of ram, and can't get X to work well. Sometimes,
the control panel and things in X don't work, when I select them, they
don't start, is this a result of the small amount of ram, or something
else.
2. Sometimes, X won't start right, I have all the correct settings for
my vgc monitor and oti 077 video SVGA card, and the correct server, and
all i want is 640 X 480, but I get a bunch of errors when the server
starts, can someone tell me why?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: ASUS P5AB
Date: 26 Apr 1999 23:09:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paolo Molaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 20 Apr 1999 12:17:14 GMT, Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd suggest the FIC VA503+. The P5A-B is a good board but I don't think
>> Linux has UDMA support yet for the ALI chipset. With the MVP3 chipset you
>> get UDMA support in the 2.2 kernels, or with the so-called "jumbo patch".
>
>I have a P5A-B with the udma patch for kernel 2.2.5 and hdparm
>reports 12.55 MB/s on a Quantum disk (8.1 without the patch).
Could you email where you obtained this patch? I don't suppose there's
a version for the 2.0.36 kernel?
Peter Stein
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: ASUS P5AB
Date: 26 Apr 1999 23:06:25 GMT
In article <7fhr8a$9dr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tom Friedetzky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hi,
>
>>are there ANY known problems with Linux and the ASUS P5AB? I'm running
>>it for some weeks now and I'm quite happy with both performance and
>>stability, but before suggesting it to a friend I'd like to be sure that
>>I'm not missing something (especially because he has had quite some
>>trouble with a different ALI board). He's got an AMD K6-II 350, an ATI
>>Expert98, and 128 MB of PC100 SDRAM. Currently he's running kernel
>>2.0.36.
>>
>>I know of some problems related to the P5AB and the ATI card, but as far
>>as I know a recent BIOS should take care of them.
>>
>>If you know of any other socket7 AT-format mobo more suitable /
>>recommendable... any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
>I'd suggest the FIC VA503+. The P5A-B is a good board but I don't think
>Linux has UDMA support yet for the ALI chipset. With the MVP3 chipset you
>get UDMA support in the 2.2 kernels, or with the so-called "jumbo patch".
I definitely recall seeing an ALI selection for chipset while running
'make xconfig' for the 2.0.36 kernel, but it may have resulted only in DMA.
I'll try to remember to check the config file.
Do not let availability of UDMA be the sole factor in driving this decision.
I own both a P5A-B and a VA503+. The VA503+ was relegated to the backup PC.
Comparing the quality of these two is like night and day. Whereas FIC cuts
corners wherever they can, Asus goes the extra mile. For instance, look at
the FSB choices Asus gives you: 100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 125, and 133!!
The P5A-B also gives you control over I/O voltage (which is completely
absent from the VA503+).
I can run my K6-300 reliably at either 3x120 (360 !!) or 3.5x105 (367 !!)
on the P5A-B. On the VA503+? 3x112 (333, the only FSBs to choose from are
100, 112, 124). Incidentally, a FSB of 124 Mhz doesn't work at all on the
VA503+ because the L2 cache cannot tolerate it. On the P5A-B there are no
problems whatsoever with any FSB up to and including 120 Mhz (there aren't
any multipliers that can make 125 and 133 work in a meaningful way :-)).
One thing I've come to learn over the years: Asus products perform per
their advertised claims. The same cannot be said about FIC, a company
that has no problem with silkscreening settings on their boards which
they know don't work.
If Linux UDMA is very important *AND* the VA503+ limitations are
acceptable *AND* you could get the VA503+ for about $50 *THEN* I'd
say go ahead and take a stab at it. Otherwise the P5A-B is a clearly
better choice.
Peter Stein
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From: Micah Kornfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Adaptec SlimScsi 1460 and kernel 2.2.x
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:05:03 +0000
Since I have upgraded to the 2.2.x (from 2.0.36)kernel I have had
trouble with my adaptec slimscsi 1460 card. The problems have varied
with each new kernel Release. Currently I get a message like this and
then Iam unable to use any scsi device. I am using slackware 4.0 beta
on a gateway solo 9100. If any more information is needed please email
me. Also if possible please email any comments. Thank You in advance.:
scsi: aborting command due to timeout: pid x, scsi0, channel o, ind 6
lunx 0 Test Unit Read 00 00 00 00
(The pid cycles from 1 to 6.)
The rc.pcmcia script seems to set the card up correctly but after the
error messages I have no access to the card. I am currently trying to
use my jaz drive with it.
I am currently using kernel 2.2.6
Thank You
Micah
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From: "Eric SIMON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound blaster pci64v ???
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:00:37 +0200
Hello
How to install SB pci 64 v on my linux-computer (redhat 5.2)
Thanks
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with an Adaptec AVA1502AE SCSI host card
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:20:30 +0000
Hi
Kjell Petersen wrote:
> I have a Microtek Phantom scanner which was delivered with an Adaptec
> AVA1502AE SCSI host card. I'm trying to setup the scanner for use with
> SANE under Gimp.
>
I'm trying the same thing with an AGFA snapscan 600 scanner, whith AVA1505AE SCSI
card.
>
> As I have understood it from the SANE documetation, I have to do the "SCSI
> low-level support" myself. I recon that is to compile a kernel with SCSI
> support and the correct low-level drivers, such that linux recognises my
> SCSI card at boot time.
> Problem in short :
> I've compiled a new kernel with SCSI support and generic SCSI support and the
> low level driver aha152x. I've tried both with modules and compiled in to the
> kernel (details below), but in the first case I'm not allowed to install the
> aha152x module, and in the last case the card is not recognised at the irq
> and i/o address specified.
>
> My system :
>
> Red Hat 5.2 on a PII 450 (Celeron 300 at a 440BX 100 MHz motherboard)
> Linux 2.2.4 kernel
>
> Soundblaster PCI128 PnP (using module es1370 - Ensoniq without any problems ;^)
> Adaptec AVA1502AE
> -ISA-card
> -jumpers for irq, i/o etc so non-PNP
I'm interested in knowing how you de-activate de PNPray feature of the card ?
>
> -SCSI_ID 7
>
> I've tried searching on Dejanews, but only found out that :
> - AVA1502 cards are commonly in use, also under linux (zip-drives etc)
> - The driver to use seems to be the one I'm trying : aha152x
> - Most problems seem to be giving the module/kernel the right irq/io-adress
> parameters
>
> With SCSI support as modules :
>
> I compiled all SCSI-support as modules and got :
>
> -scsi_mod.o
> -sg.o
> -aha152x.o
>
> First I loaded scsi_mod and then sg. My card had settings irq=9 io=0x140 so I
> tried to load the aha152x module with :
>
> >insmod aha152x aha152x=0x140,9
> aha152x.o: Device or resource busy
> >
>
> I double checked that these resources were free (/proc/interrupts and ioports).
> Trying to load the module without parameters yielded the same result.
>
you should re-re-check with cat /proc/pci | grep IRQ, I have never see a
PCI system not using the IRQ 9 for it's own or for some PCI card until now !!!
>
> Being not to comfortable with modules yet, I decided to have a go with the
> support compiled into the kernel.
>
> With SCSI support compiled into the kernel :
>
> In make menuconfig I selected SCSI support, Generic SCSI support and AHA152x
> support to be compiled as a part of the kernel.
>
> Compiled and copied the kernel to the /boot directory.
>
> In my lilo.conf file i added :
>
> append = "aha152x=0x140,9"
>
> under the right stanza, and reran lilo.
> (I also tried the full version :
> append = "aha152x=0x140,9,7,1,1,0,500,0"
> with the same result).
>
> When booting with the new kernel I got the following messages
>
> aha152x: processing commandline: ok
> aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
> aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled,
> parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=500, extended translation=disabled
> aha152x: trying software interrupt, lost.
> aha152x: IRQ 9 possibly wrong. Please verify.
> scsi : 0 hosts.
> scsi : detected total.
>
the first time I try the same and I got same result
>
> I've double checked the jumper settings and tried settings for another irq as
> well with correct parameters given to the kernel, same result. I've also
> tried all the combinations of the reconnect and parity parameters without luck.
>
> I started to think that some hardware might be broken, but I have a Win98
> partition on the same PC, and the hardware works fine under this OS...
> ( In fact this might be one of the last barriers for not kicking out Win98
> completly...)
>
> Hypothesis :
>
> Since both approaches fails, I started to think about common prerequisits.
>
> And since this is my first SCSI card under linux, I wonder if I've missed
> something about the Generic SCSI Support. Is this one needed at all as a
> "middle-level" driver ? Or is it unecessary in the presence of the aha152x
> driver (low-level) ?
>
I don't think you have a pb with the others modules ... THE problem seem to be
with aha152x !
>
> If I do need the Generic SCSI Support as well as the aha152x support, am I
> supposed to give the Generic SCSI driver some parameters to coexist with
> the aha152x driver ?
>
to use your scanner with SANE you need generic SCSI, but this one do not require
to be feed with specials parameters.
>
> As you see, I could need some information about the nuts-and-bolts regarding
> SCSI support. I've found the unmaintained SCSI-HOWTO to be mostly obsolete, and
>
yes it don't help
> the SCSI-Programming-HOWTO seem to be giving guidelines for using the generic
>
I don't even think to look into such a thing !
> SCSI driver directly against a scsi card in the lack of a already implemented
> low-level driver (in case of new unsupported hardware).
>
> Since at least the AVA1502 seems to be widely used (I don't know about the
>
yes it drive me nuts ! all the problems seem to come from that the AE serie is a
limited version (only ONE SCSI device allowed)
> AVA1502AE) I hope that someone have some clues of what might be wrong, and/or
> can give med som hints/references on SCSI support under linux 2.2.
>
> Another hypothesis might be some trouble with the combination SCSI-card /
> sound card. I've seen some postings on that, but couldn't find any general
> problems from those.
>
hum don't think so (I have an AWE64 !)
>
> Any response is most welcome,
>
> Kjell ;^)
Ok, I don't know if it help (probably not !) but here is what I have tried :
my 1505AE is one sort of isa PNPray card ... and I can not disable the PNP feature
... try to do that with SCSI select under MSDOG but this utility just don't work
!!!
So I use the isapnpdump and isapnp utilities (from isapnptools package) under
linux to activate the card after the system boot. And that work pretty well, then
I load the aha152x module with correct arguments (given by isapnp) ... and that
work too !!! (at this point I think I have win the big price !!) but least my
sacanner it not dectected when the module initialyse the card ... all lost !
let me know if you finally have some other results !
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: 27 Apr 1999 00:57:29 GMT
John Hall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Chris Costello wrote in message ...
: >> That's why I code the beginning and end before filling in the blanks.
: >> That way, I know my braces are matched. :-)
: >
: > vim (Vi Modified, http://www.vim.org) does a great job at
: >handling this also.
: How do you get vim to match braces?
same as vi - "%".
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From: Chris Lachaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Setting up the modem
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:57:20 -0500
Not quite true. I use isapnp to setup my PNP modem, works just fine.
I'm pretty sure you can find isapnp at the RedHat site. It came with my
Suse distribution.
Chris
>
>
> You need to obviously get a nonwinmodem for starters. Secondly, install the
> modem yourself it's really easier than you think. It's extremely important
> that the Linux compatable modem has "jumpers" and set them up as well disable
> the PnP settings before installing the new modem.Once this is done,
> configuring your ppp setting and getting connected to the internet is a piece
> of cake. The secret to getting connected to the net is in the modem. If you
> don't set the jumpers and disable the PnP it won't work, no matter if you
> follow the ppp HOW TO's perfectly to a tee, it won't work. You MUST set your
> jumpers and disable PnP before installing the new modem! This is what they
> don't take the time and tell you, most linux users consider that the
> individual already's knows this or should know it. Stop wasting your time,
> go get a linux compatable modem, set the jumpers, disable PnP and correctly
> configure your ppp setting and you should be up and internet ready in no
> time. By the way, don't pay nobody to install your modem, do it yourself.
> Why? Techs. at your bigger computers stores as well the small individually
> compter shops, if you don't specify clearly what you want done, they won't do
> it. Never take your computer and put in the hands of someone you don't know
> and that doesn't have your best interest in mind. To risky!! Allan...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help: RH5.2, 8-bit Soundblaster(2.1) and mpg123
Date: 27 Apr 99 00:44:37 GMT
In article <7fldp7$q8f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Could someone tell me if mpg123 is capable of playing MP3 files through
>an 8-bit sound card?
>I have correctly configured my 8-bit card (can play .au files using sox
>and audio cd's). But when I play .MP3 files, all I hear is noise!
>I made sure that the files were transferred in binary mode (contrary
>to a previous suggestion).
I'm running an old ISA soundblaster 16 (circa 1993) under the 2.0.36 kernel,
and mpg123 works. One problem i ran into was that the soundcard wanted
the same IRQ as the NIC, and to change the IRQ i had to go creative lab's
website to dig up the diagnostic utilities for the card. Another problem
was that with the IRQ conflict, the output sound level was set to 0, but
running "aumix" and resetting the parameter fixed the problem. Here's some
test mp3's if you want to play with them:
ftp://209.80.216.36/pub/matt/mp3
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From: Brian Servis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MouseWheel support in Linux
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:12:15 -0500
Are you using one with the thumb button? I can't get my MouseMan+ PS/2
thumb button to work under 3.3.3.1 and svga driver with kernel 2.2.6.
It used to work great under 3.3.2.3a, mach64. I have followed all the
device on http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ to no
avail.
Thanks,
Brian
bryan wrote:
>
> logitech RETAIL wheel mouse. works for me ;-)
>
> Alex Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Greetings all,
>
> : Happily running on Linux for quite a while now. Thing is, I'd like to
> : get myself one of those mousewheels, but before I cough up the $, I'd
> : like to be sure that it will work in Linux so that the money won't be
> : wasted. Well, will it work? I'm running on Mandrake 5.3 BTW, Kernel
> : 2.0.36.
>
> : Thanks ahead,
> : Alex Kaufman
>
> --
> Bryan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BradStewrt)
Subject: Re: Adeptec AHA-1535A adpater
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:55:45 GMT
I've tried every driver on the CD. Was curious if anyone knew of some
aditional options to try.
Thanks
Brad
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