Linux-Hardware Digest #415, Volume #9 Fri, 12 Feb 99 22:13:32 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux on entry level PCs (Andrew Comech)
High end sound card - suggestions? (Ken Kubota)
Modem and sound problems ("Adam Short")
Re: ADSL and Linux (garv)
Help - Rockwell 56k PCI modem (Matt Zagni)
URGENT: Dead Pixels on Active Matrix Laptops ("Ahmed Abukmail")
Re: Question about modem (Allen)
Compaq 1600r progressing but... (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Re: can't be difficult (TDK PCMCIA networkcard) (Geoff Allsup)
AHA-2940 U/UW Dual Problem w/ 2.2.0 ("Stacy Sneeden")
Re: IOMega Zip: PPA failed initialization ("Rampage")
Re: URGENT: Dead Pixels on Active Matrix Laptops (Kevin Martin)
Re: How can I make my linux machine beep with internal speaker? (Anthony Pioli)
Sound Blaster Problems ("deaddog")
Re: Is linux able to handle 2 video cards ? (Raymond Doetjes)
How to install the i740 display card? ("Bill")
maestro 32/96 - working anywhow,anywhere? (Oliver Wissdorf)
Re: Windows & Linux File Transfer ? (John Thompson)
Re: DDS3-Dat and Linux (Cokey de Percin)
x-windows help ? ("Chris Marai")
Re: MPACT Toshiba chipset (Michael Hasselberg)
Re: URGENT: Dead Pixels on Active Matrix Laptops (Ernst-Udo Wallenborn)
Re: CPI Modem help needed (Michael Silvestro)
2 Graphic Card (Mathias Nickl)
Re: IOMega Zip: PPA failed initialization ("David A. Frantz")
Re: Dell Poweredge 2300 with RAID (Michael Thurbin)
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:33:21 -0500
From: Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux on entry level PCs
Marco La Cascia wrote:
> I was talking about PC in the $500-700 range.
> -- Marco
In this range, you can build a very good machine
with 128MB ram, 6G of hard drive, and above 300MHz
processor. See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html
(I will appreciate any comments about that site.)
Cheers,
Andrew
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From: Ken Kubota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: High end sound card - suggestions?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 01:35:00 +1100
Hello,
I am looking for a high end sound card supported by both Linux and
Windows.
Do you have any suggestions?
Ken Kubota
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From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem and sound problems
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:39:55 -0000
Hi
First of all can anyone who replies to this please mail the reply to me. The
messages on this newsgroup go by too fast for me. My email is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Right, to the problems...I am a complete newbie. I have never used Linux
before but I have experience of Solaris (only using not configuring). I have
an OPTi 16 PnP soundcard (82C931 chipset, I think) and a Texas Instruments
56k V90 internal modem. Neither of these devices work with Linux. I have
read all the information I can find and none of it was any help (to be frank
I couldn't understand some of them). Any one who can help me please mail me.
Do not write to the newsgroup. please mail me personally. Please make your
suggestions clear and understandable.
Thanks
Adam
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL and Linux
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:21:30 GMT
David Clark wrote:
> I'm looking into getting set-up with ADSL for my connection,
> but no one seems to be able to tell me if it will work with
> Linux. The rep at Soutwestern Bell keeps referring to Linux
> as a "card" that should still work. After numerous attempts
> to explain that it is an OS, he thinks I am running UNIX...
>
>
Go check out Brian raving about his new ADSL setup at www.brie.com.
(And I'm jealous!)
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From: Matt Zagni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help - Rockwell 56k PCI modem
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:16:47 +0000
Hi,
I am running SUSE, and have a new Rockwell PCI Modem Enumerator.
can someone please mail me with the process of setting up this
modem in SUSE.
>From start to finish.
SUSE fails to see the PCI card and luss is unable to configure
the modem
My version of SUSE is 5.3
Many thanks
Matt
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From: "Ahmed Abukmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: URGENT: Dead Pixels on Active Matrix Laptops
Date: 11 Feb 1999 14:32:41 GMT
Hi Guys, I got my LapTop a week ago it's 14.1" Active Matrix screen, and I
found a dead pixel on the upper right hand side. The question is:
This laptop is still under the 30 day return policy, and I would like to
know if it's worth it to return it, and ask for another one, or is it true
that the standard is 3 or 4 dead pixels in a square inch before it's
considered bad?
A co-worker told me that if I should feel lucky for having only one dead
pixel, because chances are that there will be more than one dead pixel if I
exchange the laptop or the screen.
I guess the important question is, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTING A LAPTOP
THAT IS DEAD PIXEL FREE?
Thank you very much
Ahmed
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,hk.comp.pc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question about modem
Date: 13 Feb 1999 00:50:23 GMT
Look at their news posting program, and the reply starts to
make sense--Outlook Excuse... consider the source:-))
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of
nospam.)
fight spam everywhere!!!
The irony is that Bill Gates claims to making a
stable operating system and
Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the
world.
Linux; The Official OS of the New Millennium
http://www.linuxlink.com
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:18:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff
Blake) wrote:
>None ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: Try Control Panel->Modem->Properties->Speaker Volume.
>: If this doesn't work, try add "ATM0" in Extra Setting at Connection
>: Tab->Advance.
>
>: Chan, Siu-Kei ¼¶¼g©ó¤å³¹ <7a04kj$g0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>: >Would anyone can tell me how to shut the squeeze noise of my modem during
>: >the dial-up process. My modem is the Diamond SupraExpress 33.6.
>: >Please inform me by e-mail. Thanks!!
>
>
>Forgive me for being slightly critical, but no LINUX system, or indeed, any
>UNIX system that I have seen has a:
>
> Control Panel->Modem->Properties->Speaker Volume
>
>function. However "ATM0" might work, it does for me...
>
>Geoff
>--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Compaq 1600r progressing but...
Date: 13 Feb 1999 01:02:58 GMT
...it is moving _really_ slowly.. I just built a booting
partition set on the SMART-2 array logical drive and booted off it into
single user mode, so I know I can do it. But..
Can anyone point me to the source for the RedHat boot and
supplemental disks, so I can patch them to recognize this Compaq HW? I
prefer to load rpms than the tedious download-compile-install, and if
anyone can get me a link to those sources and I come up with successful
patches, I'll be happy to hand back those patched floppies as .img files
..
Cheers,
--
Mathew A. Hennessy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'So the next time someone says, "I have a 50K file for you," your next
exclamation needs to be, "Wow, that's cold!"' - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: can't be difficult (TDK PCMCIA networkcard)
Date: 11 Feb 1999 15:22:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Martin van Nijnatten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> The cardservices are loaded correctly but the network card isn't
>> recognized !
>>
>> Any help is highly appreciated.
>>
>> My platform:
>> - Compaq Armada 1700
>> - TDK Global networker 3410 PCMCIA (ethernet + modem)
>> - slackware, kernel 2.0.34
>> - pcmcia-cs 3.0.0.
>>
the TDK Global Networker 3410 is listed in /etc/pcmcia/config in my
RedHat 5.2 distribution, implying there is support out there for your
card....don't know if it's recent, so you might want to check what's
included with your slackware, and find newer pcmcia support stuff if
necessary.
good luck,
geoff
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From: "Stacy Sneeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AHA-2940 U/UW Dual Problem w/ 2.2.0
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:07:39 -0500
I'm having a problem with the boot sequence. Compiled the kernel however
after running lilo and rebooting receive the following and the system halts.
SCSI: aborting command due to timeout: pid 16, SCSI1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
Any ideas?
Stacy
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From: "Rampage" <rampage[REMOVE THIS]@shaw.wave.ca>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: IOMega Zip: PPA failed initialization
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:24:05 GMT
Do you have scsi supprot compiled into your kernel? It is required even for
the parallel port zip drive.
Rampage
Jonathan Meeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I'm Caldera OpenLinux v. 1.3 (2.0.35) and am trying to mount a parallel
port zip drive. I had to recompile the kernal b/c the ppa module wasn't
built.
Now, I get the following:
>insmod ppa
ppa: Version 1.42
ppa: Probing port 03bc
ppa: Probing port 0278
scsi: 0 hosts.
Initialization of ppa failed
My machine has an AST BIOS v. 2.1 (if that should matter).
The zip drive is connected and a zip disk is inserted, too.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Jonathan Meeks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Martin)
Subject: Re: URGENT: Dead Pixels on Active Matrix Laptops
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:01:33 GMT
In article <01be55cb$8aa2a6f0$cadc0302@infotech09>, it says "Ahmed Abukmail"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Guys, I got my LapTop a week ago it's 14.1" Active Matrix screen, and I
>found a dead pixel on the upper right hand side.
Only one?
The InfoWorld Gripe Line columnist, Ed Foster, had a big thing about this
early last year. Some kid saved his quarters for six years or something,
and his dad got all bent out of shape because there were two dead pixels on
his screen.
>This laptop is still under the 30 day return policy, and I would like to
>know if it's worth it to return it, and ask for another one, or is it true
>that the standard is 3 or 4 dead pixels in a square inch before it's
>considered bad?
That's what they told Ed.
>A co-worker told me that if I should feel lucky for having only one dead
>pixel, because chances are that there will be more than one dead pixel if I
>exchange the laptop or the screen.
That too.
>I guess the important question is, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GETTING A LAPTOP
>THAT IS DEAD PIXEL FREE?
Slim > your chances > none
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From: Anthony Pioli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: How can I make my linux machine beep with internal speaker?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:00:53 +0000
Tobias Galitzien wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I want to set up an alarm schript that should check a certain thing
> regularly and should somehow give an audible alarm if there is an error.
> The problem is the speaker. If I take the following perl script, it
> beeps happily when I run it from the console or via telnet:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> print STDERR "\033[10;3000]";
> print STDERR "\033[11;100]";
> print STDERR "\007";
> print STDERR "\033[10]";
> print STDERR "\033[11]";
>
> But it won't work if run with cron. It mails the output nicely formatted
> to me but doesn't give a beep.
>
> Anybody any idea how I can make it beep also from cron?
>
> Thanks
> Tobias
If a beep is all you want:
print "\a";
Anthony
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From: "deaddog" <dead^[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Blaster Problems
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:01:36 GMT
Help
I am having problems getting my sound card to work. I am new to Linux so I
will give you all the details i can understand and system config..
Here goes
System
AMD K6-233
Pcchipps 557 mb with on board sound (disabled and confermed disabled)
Cirrus logic 5446 2 mg
Wd hd 1.6 g
24 X cd rom
64 mg ram
Kingston KNE-40 network card
and of 3.5 floppy
Sound blaser 16 model CT2230
According to Creative this sound card is not pnp but the only jumper for
config is for the port addy witch I have set to 220 and useing a diagonstic
program i found the irq and dma and cheecked for conflicts and found none
I have RedHat ver 5.1 installed with 2.0.35 kernel
The problem is the sound config utility will allow me to set this but when
it goes to play the test sample it gives me an error that "an error was
encounterd running the modprobe program"
I have also ran the pnpdump utility and it reports back no pnp cards in the
system.
I had read that cirtian sb16 were inconpatable with Linux is this one of
them ???? Or i just havent dug deep enough ???
Thanks
Steve
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Is linux able to handle 2 video cards ?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:08:14 +0100
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It depends upon your X-server. The commercial x-servers, can sometimes use 4
cards at the same time. But often you have to buy speciial cards wich no how
to share interrupts. Like a Matrox millenium. 2 different cards is with some
servers also possible aslong as they don't conflict with each other.
Raymond
Damien Ercole wrote:
> Hi all .....
>
> I'm actually wondering if linux is able to handle 2 video cards
> connected on the PC..
> I've actually a viper v550 on the AGP bus, but as this card doesn't have
> any TV output
> i want to buy a cheaper one (on PCI bus) to be able to watch my DVD on
> my TV ......
> so anyone can tell me if booting with 2 video cards will crash the
> system ?
>
> ThaNX
> Damien
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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to install the i740 display card?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:23:35 +0800
As title.
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From: Oliver Wissdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: maestro 32/96 - working anywhow,anywhere?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:51:07 +0100
Hello everybody,
I have a Terratec Maestro 32/96 Sound-System (isa-Plug and Pray, but
this is not the problem) and I am not able to run it under Linux. I am
using kernel 2.0.35 and none of the included drivers is working ( it is
told that this card should be 100% Soundblaster compatible, but it is a
lie - I tried all combinations). Can anybody tell me what to do with
this problem, without writing an own driver?
I would be very pleased about one mail filled with a lot of wisdom
according to this problem.
Bye to all
Oli
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows & Linux File Transfer ?
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:22:16 -0600
Chris Marai wrote:
> I was wondering if there is anyway to move files on my dos partition to the
> linux partition? Or at least read/write them from linux and windows ?
If your kernel or modules support msdos or vfat filesystems
you should be able to simply mount your dos partition in
linux and access the files directly. If you're using long
filenames (eg Win9x's vfat and/or FAT32 filesystems) you
should mount the partition using the vfat option otherwise
you'll only see the truncated 8.3 filenames.
I don't know if it is possible for Windows to see your ext2
partitions, though.
--
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DDS3-Dat and Linux
Date: 13 Feb 1999 02:40:41 GMT
"F. Spitzer, GEOSYSTEMS" wrote:
>
> We are planing to use a DDS3-Dat as backup-device. Has anyone made some
> positive or negative experience with DDS3-Dat-drives?
> Any recommendations are welcome.
>
I'm running an HP DDS-3 12/24 external and it works very nicely. I
haven't had any problems at all, just plugged it in and it worked.
Best
Cokey
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From: "Chris Marai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: x-windows help ?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:53:34 -0500
Hi,
I was changing one of the setting in X-windows and now when I run it I
simply get window interface up for a second then the linux prompt and black
screen come up.
How do I get back into the x-window interface?
Thank You
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Hasselberg)
Subject: Re: MPACT Toshiba chipset
Date: 12 Feb 1999 20:54:34 +0100
Evgueni Tzvetanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I received my new computer Quantex with an MPact 3DVD video card and
>decoder. The problem is that I can't make any X server to work with my
trash that card.
Toshiba discontinued MPACT.
Maybe you could ask chromatic research (origin of MPACT) for
driver programming information, but for sure you'll have to
go for an NDA first.
Best regards,
mike
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: URGENT: Dead Pixels on Active Matrix Laptops
From: Ernst-Udo Wallenborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Feb 1999 18:02:56 +0100
"Ahmed Abukmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi Guys, I got my LapTop a week ago it's 14.1" Active Matrix screen, and I
> found a dead pixel on the upper right hand side. The question is:
a friend of mine has a Tecra with no dead pixels. Mine has one.
Overall i'd say: If it's only one i wouldn't bother. 3 to 4 per
square inch would definitely be a reason to return the thing.
--
Ernst-Udo Wallenborn
Laboratorium fuer Physikalische Chemie
ETH Zuerich
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From: Michael Silvestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPI Modem help needed
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:42:30 -0500
I've been having a similar problem with my modem using RH 5.1. Every time I
start minicom, it hangs on me. I also have a PnP modem, but I disabled PnP
support in the BIOS, so the settings should remain constant. I believe I
also configured my serial port correctly, using the settings I found in the
Win95 Control Panel.
I looked at the RH web site, and I found that the version of minicom (1.81)
included with RH 5.1 has a bug. This bug should not affect basic modem
operation, but I downloaded minicom 1.82 just to be safe. Even 1.82 is
hanging on me, just in a different way. I can now exit minicom using Ctrl-A
X, where I used to have to kill minicom when I used 1.81.
I don't know if this is much help, but at least you're not the only one
having this problem.
Mike Silvestro
Theo Berkhout wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to get my euroviva Comm center 33.6 SP modem (made by CPI I
> think inside a gateway 2000)
> to work on linux 5.1. It is not a winmodem (you can get it to work in
> dos with a dos configure program), but has no jumpers I know of to
> switch off the pnp.
> Tried to configure it using isapnptools & it's conf file. I used the
> same settings as found in the win95 device manager (I have a dual boot
> machine), but no success, minicom will even hang now.
> Can anyone help, where can I find more specific info?
>
> Theo berkhout
>
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From: Mathias Nickl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 Graphic Card
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:59:26 +0100
Hi,
is it possible to run 2 graphic cards on a Linux6.1.
Thank You
Mathias Nickl
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: IOMega Zip: PPA failed initialization
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:52:51 -0500
Jonathan;
As was just pointed out you need SCSI support for the ZIP drives. If its a
Zip Plus you need the imm module. One thing to look out for is that SCSI
support has to be loaded first, if it is a module, before loading the Zip
Module. I have progressed to the 2.2.1 kernel, which I've just installed
onto a laptop and have managed to get the Zip to work on the second rebuild
of my kernel. Its very easy to miss something ;).
Now I have to sit down with the PCMCIA docs and see if I can figure out what
needs to be done to get that to work.
dave
Rampage > wrote in message ...
>Do you have scsi supprot compiled into your kernel? It is required even
for
>the parallel port zip drive.
>
> Rampage
>
>Jonathan Meeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>I'm Caldera OpenLinux v. 1.3 (2.0.35) and am trying to mount a parallel
>port zip drive. I had to recompile the kernal b/c the ppa module wasn't
>built.
>Now, I get the following:
>>insmod ppa
>ppa: Version 1.42
>ppa: Probing port 03bc
>ppa: Probing port 0278
>scsi: 0 hosts.
>Initialization of ppa failed
>My machine has an AST BIOS v. 2.1 (if that should matter).
>The zip drive is connected and a zip disk is inserted, too.
>Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>Jonathan Meeks
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Thurbin)
Subject: Re: Dell Poweredge 2300 with RAID
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:37:46 GMT
I have no experience with it but you find boot-floppies for RH Linux at Dells
web-site for the 2300.
Michael
In article <79svog$3if$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> Anyone know if it possible to run Linux on a Dell Poweredge 2300 with RAID
>controller. I have not been able to find documentation anywhere on getting
>the RAID card working under Linux, and so far all the installation
>diskettes and one-disk distributions have been unable to recognize the RAID
>card. Does anyone have any experience getting the the RAID controller and
>Linux to talk together? Any advice or pointers?
>
>Thanks,
> Morgan Hollinger
>
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