Linux-Hardware Digest #572, Volume #9             Fri, 5 Mar 99 11:13:24 EST

Contents:
  Modifying the RedHat Boot Disk (Patrick Mueller)
  Re: AMD k6-2. Which MB? (Vincent Cunniffe)
  Scsi tape problems (Matt Payton)
  Re: Is the are a TV tuner program that will work with linux? (Tom Herman)
  Newbie -- Iomega Ditto Max Tape Drive (John Ramser)
  Re: Riva TNT and  X, Can anybody help me???? (Jonathan Adams)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (John Burton)
  Re: Modem configuring (Mircea)
  Re: Need help re: H-P Colorado T1000e Tape Drive & how to mount... 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  hdd problems ("Matthew Taulke-johnson")
  Re: Video4linux and Matrox MAVEN chips ("matthew.r.pavlovich.1")
  Linux Xconfig Problems!! ("Andrew Duane")
  bt848-handle ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Some questions (hardware/software recommendations, issues/concerns, WTB, etc..) 
(NeoSoftSys)
  BTTV problems with 1600x1200 (Jan Forsblom)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: scsi cdrom seen by bios, not by linux (Erik Bakker)
  Help!  Are there drivers for ATI LT Rage Pro AGP 2X & Lucent v.90 + DSL Wildwire 
Modem (Redhat v5.2)? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Sound Blaster 128 PCI ??? (Jeremiah)

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From: Patrick Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Modifying the RedHat Boot Disk
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:07:50 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have the buggy CMD604 IDE chipset on my system, so in order to boot with both
my HD and CD, I need a kernel w/ the support for the chipset. I have compiled a
minimal kernel to get this functionality. 

What I want to do is replace the default kernel on the RedHat Boot disk with
this modified kernel so that I can use the RedHat CD to install RedHat on the
system. I tried simply rm'ing the old kernel and cp'ing the new kernel to the
floppy. When I try booting with this disk, I get an "invalid kernel" error
message.

Or, maybe this is the problem: I thought the only difference between 'vmlinux'
and 'vmlinuz' is that the 'z' tagged file is gzip'ed. So that's all I did to the
newly rolled kernel. Is this the right way to do that? (I need to do something
in order to fit it on the floppy).

Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks..

        -- Patrick

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From: Vincent Cunniffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD k6-2. Which MB?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:04:19 +0000

> Any Motherboard using the Via MVP-3 chipset should work in UDMA mode,
> however, the kernel Docs state the Via Chipset timings are
> "experimental". However they do work just fine for me :-) Using a K6-2
> 350Mhz on an AcerAOpen AX59Pro Kernel 2.2.2 RedHat 5.2.

Running a K6-2 300 on a Tyan Trinity, UDMA working perfectly
on two different HD's

Vin

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From: Matt Payton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Scsi tape problems
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:06:05 GMT

I'm running RH5.2 on a pentium 233.  I've got a Buslogic pci scsi control=
ler,
with seagate HD, scsi cdrom and HP travan scsi tape drive.  I've been run=
ning
this machine for over a year with pretty much the same set up.  I ran a f=
ull
system backup, to the tape drive a couple days ago.  Then last night I st=
arted
to run a backup of my Win98 pc, over the network, and the tape drive just
stopped responding.  Now I can't initialize tapes, or access the drive in=
 any
way.  The unit is still detected by both the controller bios, and linux.=20
Looking through the log files I've come across the following -=20
kernel: Unable to get major 9 for SCSI tapes
and also=20
kernel: st: Unloaded
The latter appears after I try to use the unit.  So, does this look like =
a
hardware or config issue ?  Any ideas ?  Thanks.
  --  Matt


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From: Tom Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is the are a TV tuner program that will work with linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:08:47 GMT

There's a program in the bttv or xawtv directory to make a
backup file for the contents of the WinTV EEPROM.  Run it.
I then installed the drivers as per directions and didn't
have any unusual problems.  The WinTV card works great!

Since it IS working, I'm leaving well enough alone.

HTH

Tom
--
Linux Newbie wrote:
> 
> I'm rather worried about installing software for my Hauppauge WinTV in
> Linux since in the documentation somewhere it says that it might
> rewrite the EPROM or something, should I be concerned at all?
> 
> On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:55:01 -0500, "Jeff Volckaert"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >There was alot of chatter a while back about ATI not releasing the specs for
> >the card.  I think your out of luck.
> >
> >I had my eye on the all-in-wonder but bought a hauppauge tuner card instead
> >and love it.
> >
> >Jeff Volckaert
> >
> >Zane The Insane wrote in message ...
> >>I have a ATI All-in-wonder video card, that has a tv tuner.  I'm looking
> >for
> >>a program that will let me use this funcution of my video card in linux.
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> --
> "Linux:  The best things in life are free"

-- 
The views expressed are the author's and do not necessarily
reflect the official position of GTE or any of its subsidiaries

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:25:49 -0500
From: John Ramser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie -- Iomega Ditto Max Tape Drive

I am brand new to Linux. I have Redhat's 5.2 version
installed.

I have a Iomega Ditto Max Tape Drive that I would like
to use. In looking at various docs and getting a little
info from Redhat, it seems that I need both ftape
support and an application program.

How do I determine whether I have ftape support in my
current kernel? If I don't have it and must rebuild the
kernel, what option do I select from xconfig program to
give this support?

I would really appreciate some suggestions -- and a
copy of all replies to my personal email address.

John


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From: Jonathan Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Riva TNT and  X, Can anybody help me????
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 20:46:25 -0800

Michael Gigli wrote:
> 
> I hava a diamond viper 550 and I cant get x to run. Can I do it? If so How
> 
> Mick
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Michael-
 Hi. I use the Viper 550 and it rips. I'm running RedHat 5.2
As someone else suggested you want to upgrade to XFree86 3.3.3.1.
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/rh52-errata-general.html#XFree86
will give you links to all the needed files and directions.

 Below is my /etc/X11/XF86Config file. It is for a 17" monitor, check
your monitors HorizSync and VertRefresh and change as neccessary.

Good luck! - Jonathan
-- 
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http://www.lunar.org/
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#/etc/X11/XF86Config
Section "Files"
   RgbPath    "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
   Protocol        "Standard"
   XkbRules        "xfree86"
   XkbModel        "pc101"
   XkbLayout       "us"
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
   Protocol        "Microsoft"
   Device          "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier      "Primary Monitor"
   VendorName      "Unknown"
   ModelName       "Unknown"
   HorizSync       56.48
   VertRefresh     70
   Modeline  "1024x768"   75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806
EndSection


Section "Device"
   Identifier      "Primary Card"
   VendorName      "Diamond Multimedia"
   BoardName       "Diamond Viper 550"
   VideoRam        16384


EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver          "SVGA"
   Device          "Primary Card"
   Monitor         "Primary Monitor"
   DefaultColorDepth 32
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth        32
      Modes        "1024x768"
      Visual       "TrueColor"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:25:24 GMT

Johan Kullstam wrote:
> 
> John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > There are multiple reasons for and against going with an Alpha or PPC
> > vs. Intel... on of which is *all* the other hardware is Intel x86 based
> > and having *binary* compatibility is important.
> 
> who cares about binary compatibility?  just recompile!

Ummm...try providing support to multiple scientists developing code on
their personal workstations (x86 based), running multiple jobs on
multiple machines, writing data to the same location (typically a
partition on their personal workstation), using the generated (binary)
data as input to other jobs on other machines...add to that the problems
of maintaining some type of version control over the software being
developed...so now add to that simply *recompiling* *all* the code that
has been developed, and make sure that the version of code (and
compilers, and libraries and utilities, and...) are the same on both the
x86 *and* the alpha / ppc machines... And on top of all that, the data
produce MUST BE CORRECT! 

So, while in concept having an alpha or ppc machine on the LAN with x86
machines is good idea, in practice there are a lot of minor problems and
it introduces a lot of places for bugs to enter the processing setup... 

> 
> if it's some proprietary offering, chances are it would never be
> offered in 32+32 bit large mode.  even if linux were to support it,
> it'd be a bitch to port.
> 
Like I said, I don't care about the 36 bit address space, just the
bandwidth issue (described below) and getting the most bang for the
buck...

> > That said, I too am interersted in this topic for the simple reason
> > that the 450NX chipset motherboards can support 4 way interleaving
> > of memory, plus the use of alternate (4 32bit PCI buses, 2 64bit PCI
> > buses or 2 32bit & 1 64bit PCI buses) bus structure, up to 8 Xeon
> > CPUs (with cluster controller)... I'm not as interested in the size
> > of the address space as much as the size of the memory bandwidth and
> > I/O bus structure...
> 
> sgi, sun, the former dec all make *much* better high end machines.
> 
> --
>                                            J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
>                                            [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                                               Don't Fear the Penguin!

John

-- 
John Burton, Ph.D.
Senior Associate                 GATS, Inc.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]          11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal)          Newport News, VA 23606
(757) 873-5920 (voice)           (757) 873-5920 (fax)

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem configuring
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:43:02 -0500

Funny..maybe there's a problem with your modem? 'Cause I have the same,
and have never seen this behavior. I use ezppp for dialing out.

MST


"John L. Spetz" wrote:
> 
> I bought a Phoebe CMV1456VQE external modem ($89) after finally
> giving up on using my PCI modem.  I have had a lot of trouble
> getting ATD to find a dial tone and actually dial out.  Using
> the default it refuses.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need help re: H-P Colorado T1000e Tape Drive & how to mount...
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:15:18 GMT

I have a Colorado Jumbo 1400 tape drive on a P166 computer with a i gig HD.  I
want to install Linux Red Hat 5.2 but would like to be sure I can get drivers
that will support the tape drive.  Please let me know if you have any luck...
Thanks,
Jerry

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  grb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm seeking some advice on how to use (i.e. mount) the Hewlett-Packard T1000e
> Tape Drive with my Redhat 5.1 system.  My desktop system has one parallel
> printer port which is linked to the printer via the tape drive;
>    ________________                              ______________
> ____________
>   |                |  (line-in to tape dr)    | T1000e
> |>--cable---->|            |
>   | main computer  |>--parallel printer cable-->|HP Tape drive |(line-out to |
> printer    |
>   |________________|                            |______________|   printer)
> |____________|
>
> Besides the usual man pages, I have available Mark Sobell's ``A Practical
Guide
> to Linux'' and
> (O'Reilly) Hekman's ``Linux in a Nutshell'' for reference.  But my experience
> with Linux drivers, building/rebuilding the kernel, making device links, etc.
is
> nil.  I'd appreciate some very low-level, from-the-ground-up instructions---or
> pointers for further reading which will be accessible to a beginner. Ideally,
I
> hope someone who runs the HP T1000e on their Redhat 5.1 system can reply.
>
> (I had Redhat installed at a Linux Users Group meeting and didn't have the
tape
> device there at the time.)
> I have not found anything directly relevant to this on DejaNews.
>
> Thanks,
>
>       Graham B.
>
> --
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From: "Matthew Taulke-johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hdd problems
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:38:25 +1000

hi there,

total newbie here, first off i attempted to put a linux (rh 5.2) partition
and a linux swap parttiton both on my 2.6gig slave.  for some reason it
failed and i am now left with a dud drive.  i read somewhere else in this
newsgroup that a sililar problem was occuring with another person that had
seemingly done the same thing.  my 2.6gig is now rendered useless as the
linux partitioning programs (disk druid and linux fdisk) cannot pick it up,
however the dos fdisk can pick it up but no changes to the partition can be
made.  i don;t want to lose 2.6 gig overnight without a fight!! any help
whatsoever would be appreciated.

matthew





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From: "matthew.r.pavlovich.1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Video4linux and Matrox MAVEN chips
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:36:50 -0500

I believe that the Maven chip is responsible for the TV-Out functioning of
the chip, and only that.  The actual mode switching is done by the G200
according to my interpertation of the documentation.  I am working on this
driver as part of the Linux DVD project. http://linuxdvd.dhs.org

I am hoping to get a working TV-Out module in two weeks.  (I need to get
the add-on for the G200).

-Matt


On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Eddie wrote:

> Anyone have any clue whether a driver exists, is going to exist, is possible , 
> etc? (the Matrox Maven chip is included in the Matrox Marvel G200-TV)
> 
> Thanks,
>         Eddie
> replyto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 



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From: "Andrew Duane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Xconfig Problems!!
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:29:33 -0000

Hi

Can anyone help me? I'm trying to install Linux RedHat 5.1 on my machine,
but I have a Maxi Gamer Pheonix (AGP) graphics card and I'm having lots of
problems setting it up. Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem? I
have tried SVGA and generic DAC and been unsuccessful, also probe causes the
graphics card to flicker the monitor constantly. Please help. Has anyone
actually got
a machine with a phoenix card that they've been able to run linux for? Could
recompilling
the kernel with a newer version of x help? although i'd rather avoid this
course of
action!:-)

Thanks for any advice. Anything would be appreciated.

Andrew Duane




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bt848-handle
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:28:17 GMT

I am looking for someone who have good knowledge about bt848. It is working
great under linux but I'd like to do clipping under colour. It is already
possible to do it on Windows: you put a purple window in front of your TV
window with paintbrush for instance, and then you can see TV trough the
painbrush window. I try do do under linux but I guess the driver has not been
written in the same way. If anybody has information about it, thanks for your
answer? William.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NeoSoftSys)
Subject: Some questions (hardware/software recommendations, issues/concerns, WTB, 
etc..)
Date: 4 Mar 1999 18:39:12 GMT


I have a few questions. I run a mail server(pop accnts) on a NT box. I use to
have my own Linux box but that was sold. So, now I want to move my mail server
to Linux. But, I also want to be able to do a few things other than serv mail.
I want to use terminal/serial cards(isa/pci), raid(http://www.arcoide.com I saw
recommended), use of either a Oxygen or Intergraph video card. My current setup
is:

Pentium II 233MHz
96mb ram
9gig scsi hd
2x/4x HP SureStore cd-r


I can't find any drivers for my scsi card, so I will have to get a new scsi
card. So, I am wondering if people can make some recommendations for hardware I
am looking for. (also, any good grphical front-end to cd-record? or any good
cd-r apps?)

This is what I want:

Oxygen, Intergraph, or other Professional 3D Cards(is there a driver for the
Intergraph 3D Pro 20mb PCI? or any Oxygen cards(Oxygen 402 Quad Open GL, 102,
etc.?) But the g200 agp is supported? (matrox)

Camera (Quickcam? what interface?) I am looking for still/video/conferencing

A Linux supported dual Pentium II/III mother board(any one selling a P-II
233MHz cpu?)

RAID controller (http://www.arcoide.com a good choice?)

Also, a pop mail server for Linux that is easy to use. I know how to do
webbased email using sendmail, but I don't want that. I want to just serv pop
accnts and also to be able to easily add other pop accnts(free email, so you
can just sign up and the info gets added to the database). Use IMail server 4.2
and 5 for NT, so you get an idea of what I am used to.

Also, this box will be on a dedicated connection to the internet to serv mail,
but I also want to use it for personal use at the same time (compiling,
video-conferencing, newsreading, games, office productivity, etc.) So what do
you see as my experience being with my current hardware? (P-II 233mhz, 96mb
ram, scsi) How about running as a secondary DNS also?

Also, I want to add termial/serial cards to run xterms off of, and maybe have
some diskless clients. (please recommend!)

How about dual monitor support( I have two 20"..), and video capture? (link me
to what's a supported config or hardware).

How about TV-in/out? I wouldn't mind watching Cable TV while I am downloading!

My biggest concern is can I do everything I want on one box? And for links(even
offers) of hardware I am looking for that is supported under Linux. Use is fine
with me, as I can't spend too much.


Also, I know SGI is/has porting Linux to Indy's, but how about an Octane?

Please cc me any posts...comp.os.linux.* runs alot of traffic and I don't want
to miss any replies.

Also, if you think your system rocks, send me your configuration and which
distrubution you are running.


P.S...I am filled with questions..how about webpage templates? If I was to
offer webpages, is there anything like webpage templates for new users? (like
geocities.com has) for people who do not know html. And also, the popserver and
down the road, the webpage template/geocities thing will be used by Windows
user(just in case your recommendation was only a Linux-Linux thing..I need a
Linux-Linux/Windows/Mac/NeXT/Irix/etc thing)


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From: Jan Forsblom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: BTTV problems with 1600x1200
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:34:38 GMT

Hello!

I have been using Hauppage TV-grabber card (Stereo version with radio
support, Bt848) for few months. I haven't had much problems with it
until recently, when I upgraded my monitor to 19" (1600x1200).
With 1600x1200 resolution, TV picture gets misplaced a lot.
My setup is Matrox G200 AGP, XFree 3.3.3.1, BTTV with kernel 2.2.2
or with XawTV 2.3.7 (results are the same).

cat /proc/pci says that:
VGA compatible controller: Matrox Matrox G200 AGP (rev 1).
      Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  IRQ 11.  Master Capable.
      Latency=64.  Min Gnt=16.Max Lat=32.
      Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe8000000 [0xe8000008].
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe4000000 [0xe4000000].
      Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe5000000 [0xe5000000].

so I guess correct value for vidmem is 0xe80. X -probeonly confirms
this and it is the value I have always been using. BTTV image isn't
misplaced with 1152x864 resolution. I also tried hardcoding vidmem
into bttv driver but that didn't work either.

I found other interresting detail about this problem when I compiled
frame buffer into my kernel. I'm running fb at 1600x1200 too, only
difference is that X is at 77Hz, fb is at 60Hz (haven't had time to
configure it yet). Now if I jump into fb window from X window that
had misplaced TV image, I can still see TV image and it is placed
on the exact position of where I had that empty TV window on X screen.
Maybe this is modeline specific problem? My current modeline is:
    # 1600x1200 @ 77 Hz, 96.0 kHz hsync
    Modeline  "1600x1200" 199.68 1600 1616 1968 2080 1200 1200 1215 1254
Maybe I should try to run X at 60Hz too and see if the image is misplaced,
but I couldn't use it anyway so that isn't really a solution.

The problem can be seen on this screenshot:
http://www.iki.fi/jf/images/problem.jpg

PS: If it doesn't create too much trouble, would you please send your
    responses also to my email address. Thanks!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To:  comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:18:01 GMT

On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:12:17 GMT, Mark Mokryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> >i can understand linus completely.  do you remember 16 bit segment
>> >hell?  i sure do.  i never want to see that kind of brain damage ever
>> >again as long as i live.  far pointers are a monumental crock.  shame
>> >on you for even bringing it up!
>> >
>> >what would want a larger address space?  most likely, it'd be a single
>> >massive program like a number cruncher or database application.  you
>> >would have near and far 32 bit and 32+32 bit pointers.  it would suck
>> >royally.  it'd break all the assumptions that linux makes (basically
>> >all memory is accessible by a 32 bit pointer).
>> >
>> >if you need more address space, get a 64 cpu!  for someone really
>> >needing the 36 bit space, the cost of an alpha or sparc is *not*
>> >prohibitive.
>>
>> It's fair enough for someone to want to build a 36 bit Linux port, so
>> long as they're willing to take responsibility for:
>> a) Writing it,
>> b) Rewriting GLIBC to use 36 bit values,
>> c) Creating a 36 bit distribution.
>
>The Xeon is not a "36-bit" machine, whatever that is... It merely has a
>36-bit physical address bus. 

That can be interpreted as meaning it supports 36 bit address spaces, so it
is a true statement.

It works in much the same way as, back in the "good old days," you had to
reprogram applications on the 8088 so as to support 20 bits worth of address
space using segment registers.

I am less than intimately-knowledgeable about that; I preferred at the time,
as a "Motorola-partisan," to skip over the grunginess of having to
continually write extra code just to address memory.

>The extended address space is achieved via
>modifications to page table entries, i.e. it is a question of how the CPU
>interprets the PTE's. The CPU can be switched between the different paging
>modes. 

... And, for that memory space to be generally usable, will have to be
continually switched between the paging modes ...

>The Xeon, like all x86's, is a 32-bit machine. For the large part, the
>code needing modification is kernel code that deals with physical addresses.

Nope.  It will intrude on all user code as well, because user code deals
with logical addresses, which must be mapped to physical addresses, and
therefore need to have an isomorphism to do so, ergo the compiler must be
modified to use the 36 bit addressing mode, libraries must be modified to
use the 36 bit addressing mode, and applications must be modified to use the
36 bit addressing mode.

>Depending on the architecture of Linux (which I am not familiar with), this
>may or may not be a ton of work. 

It's a ton of work that pushes its way all the way from user applications on
through the "tool stream" to libraries, compilers, and the kernel.
Addressing is quite entirely pervasive.

>But in any case, from what I've heard in this discussion, Linux cannot even
>utilize more than 1 or 2 GB (depending who you ask) of physical memory, on
>ANY architecture. Why? This will seriously hurt Linux in the server arena.

>From what you've heard.

The only things you've heard are comment concerning trying to support more
than 32 bits worth of memory addressing on 32 bit systems.

Linux has been doing 36-bit addressing on Alpha for a while now.  There are
vendors selling machines with as much as 4GB of RAM.  (Note that you can
only hold as much RAM as the motherboard can hold, based on the sizing of
available slots.)  (See: <http://www.aspsys.com>)

It does not seem to be a reasonable idea to start tying the OS to an
odd-ball addressing mode that will hurt portability later, particularly
when:

a) There are on the order of a dozen architectures that Linux runs on,

b) various of which *do* support large memory spaces, 

c) It appears likely that Xeon is merely a transitional processor to tide
people over until IA-64 becomes available.

-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.  
-- Henry Spencer          <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."

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From: Erik Bakker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: scsi cdrom seen by bios, not by linux
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:16:25 +0100

that ok

during installation you will only see the harddisk partitions (not the
cdrom)
you can just continue it wil automaticily see the cdrom drive .....

Erik  "i have 2x2940 in my system and no problems at al with cdrom
drives"Bakker



Mike Hom wrote:

> I have a PC I've been tasked with setting up Linux on and I'm stuck.
> The Adaptec 2940UW finds the Matshita CR-506 in its bios scan
> but when Linux installation probes the 2940 it only sees hda (HD)
> while OS/2 sees it fine. I tried passing max_scsi_lun=6 and changing
> the 2940 bios configurations but nothing. Dejanews shows that others
> have installed on this cdrom but I can't. Help?
>
> Mike


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help!  Are there drivers for ATI LT Rage Pro AGP 2X & Lucent v.90 + DSL 
Wildwire Modem (Redhat v5.2)?
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:05:33 GMT

I'm tring to get Redhat version 5.2 running on a new Compaq Presario
5670.  Would appreciate any help with drivers or alternate
setups/workarounds  etc..

Thanks,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jeremiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 128 PCI ???
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:55:24 -0500

Markus Wandel wrote:
> >       The stock RH5.2 kernel supports the Ensoniq AudioPCI 1370 (and
> >hence, should support the SB64/128).  However, the drivers aren't particularly
> >good (I had some problems with warbly/distorted .au files and RealPlayer),
> >so using either ALSA or kernel 2.2.x is advised (by me, FWIW).
> 
> Does the newer es1370 driver in 2.2 actually fix the warbly .au playback?
> 
> Does it fix the bizarre mixer behaviour?

        From reports I've read, it does, but I haven't tried it myself...  
I'm still using 2.0.36 with the ALSA drivers.  They do fix those problems.


Brian

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