Linux-Hardware Digest #572, Volume #10 Thu, 24 Jun 99 02:13:37 EDT
Contents:
Re: ISDN Modem recommendations (Mike Patton)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Brian Hartman)
Re: Auto-init DMA on SB16? (mlw)
DELL PowerEdge 6350 and 2.2.x (Masahiko Nakashizu)
Re: RAGE LT PRO AGPx2 - HELP PLEASE!! ("Shamsuddin, Amir (EXCHANGE:MDN05:7E24)")
Re: OPL3-SAx PnP: the saga goes on... ("chnrxn")
Re: MB for Dual Processors (David Fox)
Re: need for Redhat6.0 Iomega ext Parallel 250M zip set up tips (John Hovell)
Re: Viper 550 AGP (Joceli Mayer)
Re: 1600SW settings and linux (David Fox)
Re: Promise Ultra66 controller rumor (Jim Zubb)
Exabyte 4200 problems (JeroenHoppenbrouwers)
Re: Overclocking under linux? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Remote console - Re: Remote fsck possible for Linux? (David Crooke)
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:17:38 -0500
From: Mike Patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ISDN Modem recommendations
Carl Waring wrote:
> We are finally switching over to ISDN for our dial-up email
> connections. Can anyone suggest a suitable modem. The system is a Dell
> Poweredge 2300 with Red Hat running on it. From what I can remember I
> have to steer away from win-modems. I would also like an external modem
> because I can then see what is going on.
>
> cw
>
> email to me or prefer to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have sucessfully used ADTRAN ISDN modems under Linux. Check out
www.adtran.com.
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From: Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:54:35 -0400
Alex Lam wrote:
> Brian Hartman wrote:
> >
> > Rod Roark wrote:
> >
> > > Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Working with Linux is *much* more difficult than working with Windows for
> > > >an install...
> > >
> > > Um, no. Just this past weekend I tried to install Win 98 on a machine for
> > > dual boot with NT 4.0. '98 would not work with the ATI video card (except
> > > in 640x480 16-color), with or without the vendor-supplied drivers. Also
> > > somewhere in the course of the install it lost the ability to see the
> > > (standard ATAPI) CD-ROM drive.
> > >
> >
> > How often have you had to partition anything in order to get Windows
> > installed? You can install Windows on a clean hard disk with one partition
> > with absolutely no fuss, just going through the steps. By contrast, in order
> > to install Linux, you have to deal with Disk Druid and partitions and mount
> > points and swap files. You can't seriously tell me this is less difficult
> > than Windows, can you??
> >
> I can install Linux on a fresh clean drive without my involvement in
> partitioning it as well. At least SuSE 6.0 and later can do it with its
> automated installer.
>
You could do one partition under Red Hat, as well, but it's not recommended,
because a swap partition really makes life easier. The other thing, though, is
that most users going to Linux aren't starting off with a "fresh clean drive". At
present, to even have any interest in Linux, you have to have some prior computer
involvement, which means involvement with Windows. And that means your drive
isn't going to be clean.
>
> And it detected EVERYTHING correctly on the 1st pass.
>
> > In the first place, dual-boots are always a lot harder to set up than
> > plain-vanilla installs. Secondly, the problem you seemed to be having isn't
> > with Windows, but with ATI. There are plenty of badly-written drivers out
> > there for both platforms. And NT's support for hardware isn't much better
> > than Linux's (particularly because Win9x drivers access the hardware in ways
> > NT doesn't allow).
> >
> Bull. I have Linux/Win NT/Win98 triple boots in one of my boxes. It's
> not that hard to set up.
>
"Not that hard" is relative. Most of the people on this list, myself included,
are "techies", to one degree or another. Dual-booting NT and 95 is relatively
simple. Booting NT and Linux is less-so, because you have to deal with fips, and
therefore with deleting your swapfile under NT (which NT puts at the end of your
hard drive, therefore taking the space that fips needs away).
>
> And now, with vmware, you can install Linux, then install all the
> Windoze you like, and have your Windoze running from inside Linux almost
> like running in its own native mode. Can Windoze do that?
>
In the first place, running a Windows emulator inside of Linux is unnecessary and
foolish. You end up with slower Windows apps and a bogged-down system. Much
better to just do a dual-boot and have all apps running in their native OS's. In
the second place, Windows doesn't *have* to develop an emulator for Linux, because
it's not Windows that has the software famine.
>
> > >
> > > Even worse, it trashed the NT installation, and NT after that could
> > > not even be reinstalled until after I finally figured out that the
> > > active-partition flag had to be re-set (the NT install made no provision
> > > for this, I had to do it via Linux fdisk). It seems Win95 had silently
> > > changed it.
> > >
> >
> > I've had numerous problems with my 95/NT dual-boot system. Generally, the
> > way it works is this: Install 95 first, then install NT from within 95.
> > That's always worked for me without a hitch. Again, once you actually get
> > things installed is when the real fun begins. At the very least, if you knew
> > your video card supported SVGA, you should have been able to select standard
> > SVGA drivers for the install and gotten it up and running fine in 1024x768.
> >
> > >
> > > Then I had to reinstall the ATI driver for NT. Well it didn't work there
> > > either, and I finally found out from ATI's web site that you have to
> > > upgrade to Service Pack 3 before it will work (the included instructions
> > > did not mention this little detail). God only knows what you have to do
> > > to get it working with '98. And I can't count the number of times I had
> > > to reboot the machine in the course of the above.
> > >
> >
> > Again, your problem here is with the video card, not the OS. I don't know if
> > you tried this, but you might want to try just setting it up with standard
> > SVGA drivers included with the system. That's what I had to do with my NT
> > install. If we're gonna talk about hardware problems, let's talk about the
> > fact that when I was doing my Linux install not only did Linux not recognize
> > my CD-ROM (which is a standard SoundBlaster CD-ROM that's been around for
> > God-knowns-how-many years) but even after install, trying to get it to mount
> > was an excercise in frustration. After wading through the HOWTO information
> > (which was both incomplete and incorrect) I was finally able to cobble
> > together a solution that was suitable. It's now almost 2 weeks after I got
> > my Linux CD, and I'm just now able to mount and unmount the CD-ROM through
> > the GUI.
> >
> Soundblaster/Creative Labs is well known to be very uncooperative with
> Linux developers, until very recently.
>
I didn't think Linux relied on cooperation. It was my understanding that code
wizards simply worked with a piece of hardware until they found a workaround. But
even this lack of cooperation is telling. Many users would suffer from using an
OS where they had to hope either that someone cared enough to work without the
corporate cooperation or that the company making their product decided to
cooperate with Linux developers.
>
> And NT didn't even recognize the old modem it has been running with for
> 4 years after my last reinstallation (one of the routine once every
> couple months requirement to keep NT alive.)
>
> > >
> > > This "easy to install" MS Windows myth is indeed, as the title so
> > > eloquently states, bullshit. It's only easy if you're doing just what
> > > MS thinks you should be doing, nothing more.
> > >
> >
> > Linux not only demands that you install software just so, but it also limits
> > your hardware to whatever freelance developers decide to develop drivers and
> > jerry-rigs for. It's obviously not Linux's "fault", bit drivers for Linux
> > are much harder to come by than for Windows. Hell, I'm still trying to
> > figure out how to print to my printer. There's not an OS out there that
> > doesn't demand that you install hardware in a specific procedure. The
> > procedure for installing Linux happens to be (on average, on a system with
> > all main components compatible) much more drawn-out and complicated than with
> > Win9x or NT.
> >
> Yes, to a certain degree, but the progress on Linux has been moving at
> very high speed, and new drivers, patches and what not are showing up
> almost on a daily bases.
>
I agree there's progress being made (which is one of the reasons I decided to try
Linux) but they aren't home yet. Until they are, it will be a considerable hurdle
for some users.
>
> > None of this is really meant to say that Linux is a bad operating system. In
> > general, I like Linux, and would probably recommend it to anyone I knew that
> > could handle setting it up. I'm just pointing out that it's not as easy to
> > install.as Windows, your charming little anecdotes to the contrary. ;)
> >
> Wrong. Linux is hard to install/use only to those who have been poisoned
> by M$.
That's a hell of a large pool of people, though, considering M$'s position in the
market.
>
>
> I've taught two totally computer newbies to install and use Linux. And
> non of them have any problem with the basic stuff; because they started
> with a clean mind, without any M$ poison in their head. So, your point
> is questionable.
>
It's still a valid point, because most of the people in the market *don't* have
that uncluttered mind. Frankly, I think you'd have to just have emerged from a
mountaintop in deep spiritual contemplation for the past 10 years not to have some
of that M$ poison in your blood.
>
> Alex Lam.
>
> > >
> > > By the way I'm no newbie; I've been developing software (including for
> > > MS Windows) for 25 years.
> > >
> > > -- Rod
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
> > > http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Auto-init DMA on SB16?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:36:09 +0000
Stephen Jacob wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I and another guy developed an application 2 years ago (to play back seismic
> data as audio) that uses the SoundBlaster16 under DOS. We require very
> precise timing (to know exactly what the sound card is actually playing at
> the moment when somebody presses a key), and the way in which we implemented
> this was to set the SB16 up in Auto-initialise DMA mode (see the SBHWPG on
> www.soundblaster.com).
>
> In auto-init DMA mode, a DMA buffer is used, the card reading through the
> buffer constantly (looping through it), and sending an interrupt each time
> it finishes half of the buffer. What you do when it finishes reading the
> 'bottom' half is you refill the 'bottom' half while it continues ... playing
> the 'top' half... and when it sends the next interrupt, it means it's
> finished the 'top' half, so you refill that while it plays the 'bottom'
> half. This works well because all that is required is to count the
> interrupts and to make the buffer sufficiently small to suit our resolution
> requirements.
>
> It has been suggested that I port the software to Linux (well, to Windows
> was suggested before, but that's a horrible idea). This sounds nice, until I
> read up on sound programming in Linux... As a user-level program, it looks
> like there is no access to such low-level stuff. /dev/dsp just supports you
> writing data to it and reading data from it. I assume that what happens is
> that the /dev/dsp driver keeps a large buffer of what you've written to it,
> and uses something like Auto-init DMA (or one of the other modes) to feed it
> to the soundcard. The problem is that this buffering will mean that I won't
> be able to be certain of what is playing _right now_.
>
> Do any of you have any idea how I might be able to do this in some other way
> (I'm not about to write a replacement driver for the card, which ... if I
> understand correctly ... is probably what would be required to gain "access"
> to the interrupts).
>
> Any help would be most welcome! If you can give me any useful information,
> please either e-mail me [sj (at) cp (dot) dias (dot) ie] or follow-up my
> article. :)
Off the top of my head, I would write a device driver, or modify the sb
driver, to provide the the support you need.
It should not be that hard. Hey, after all, you have the source.
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 95, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: Masahiko Nakashizu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DELL PowerEdge 6350 and 2.2.x
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:57:43 +0900
Hi,
My PC freezes every 3 or 4 days.
And when it freezes, I can not do anything except power-off.
Hardwares:
I'm using DELL PowerEdge 6350 with 2 Pentium II Xeon(400Mhz).
On this PC, 4 Adaptec ANA-6922A network interface cards installed.
(6 or 7 ports are connected to Macintoshes directly, and the 6350
is fast mac-file server.)
One external Ultra-Wide SCSI HDD and UPS are connected.
Softwares:
I've installed Red Hat Linux 5.2.
After normal "Server" install, I disabled sendmail and innd and
named and pcmcia, and added netatalk and dhcpd and smupsd.
And updated the kernel to 2.2.1, and updated required packages.
The kernel is compiled with SMP.
I've tried to change NICs and its driver-module, Intel PRO/100+
Management Adapter x7, and 3Com 3C905B x7.
It made no difference.
I've tried to chage the netatalk, from 1.4b2+asun2.1.0 to 2.1.3.
It also made no difference.
I've tried to chage the kernel, 2.2.1 and 2.2.5 and 2.2.9.
It also made no difference. (or getting worse ?)
One day, I watched the PC freezed, on which xosview displayed
cpus' load; "CPU 0 100%" and "CPU 1 108%".
I can not get any other information from the PC.
It may occures when loads are very heavy.
Is there any way to run 2.2.x SAFE on PowerEdge 6350 ?
Thanks
--
Masahiko Nakashizu
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From: "Shamsuddin, Amir (EXCHANGE:MDN05:7E24)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAGE LT PRO AGPx2 - HELP PLEASE!!
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:17:00 +0100
Read up about the Intel / Vesa FrameBuffer device in Linux 2.2. Set it up to a
decent video mode, and you can either use the X framebuffer device, or (if you
configure things properly) the X Mach64 server.
Look around the web, there are a few (very) relevant pages, but I dont have
them to hand right now. Also check DejaNews for this newsgroup
Amir S
Amir (at) shams.demon.co.uk
Michael Searle wrote:
> I hvae a Rage LT PRO AGPx2 Video card in my laptop anyone know of a driver
> that works?
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From: "chnrxn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OPL3-SAx PnP: the saga goes on...
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:23:04 +0800
sndconfig from redhat 6.0 easily detected my opl3-sax. Maybe you can try
that?
> > I've read all the postings about this darned audio chipset (OPL3-SAx):
I've
> > an eXtensa 390 (Acer/TI) with 48Mb RAM and Linux 2.2.10. I've tried
every
> > PnP configuration with every IRQ and DMA combination, and I'm working
without
> > IRQ-stealing devices (PCMCIA and other) in order to be sure I'm doing
> > everything The Right Way... but I can't play samples.
> > As usual, the mixer works, I can listen to audio CDs. But every time
> > I try to play something (let's say a 5-seconds 16 bit stereo sample),
> > the kernel hangs, leaving me in quiet desperation.
> > (..)
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: MB for Dual Processors
Date: 23 Jun 1999 21:51:54 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tsmanlyman) writes:
> >>I have an ASUS P2B-D on which I've set-up 2 PII 450s.
>
> May I ask how much you paid for it where? I'm looking to do the same thing
> but I haven't decided on a MB, tho I will be using PII 400s. TIA
www.thechipmerchant.com has them for $275. I like them because they're
right here in San Diego and I can walk in and buy stuff.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: need for Redhat6.0 Iomega ext Parallel 250M zip set up tips
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:35:30 GMT
I believe you need to _compile_ the low level driver support into the
kernel for it to work properly, that is, at least according to the
mini-HOWTO availible from the LDP. There are two -- something like
"newer drives" and also, "slow but safe" or "fast but unstable".
Good luck,
John
bono wrote:
> hi all:
>
> If possible please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Anyone knows how to set up the ext Parallel 250M (or 100M) zip drive?
> I had do search and search and try many different things and still no
> luck:
>
> I already did the alias scsi_hostadaptor ppa
> created the /mnt/zip
>
> if I do a insmod ppa I will get
>
> /lib/modules/2.25-15/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
> parpoart_calim_Rcca15f23 *and all similar below. I use ~ to save the
> typing*
> ~/parport_register_device_R04edecf
> ~/parport_register_device_R04edecf
> ~/parport_enumerate_R648d1e2
> ~/parport_release_R4430d136
>
> same result if I type insmod imm
>
> when I try to do a mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip
> I got error saying kernel does not recognize /dev/sda4 as a block
> device...
>
> What am I missing here? Can anyone who successfully get any parallel
> zip drives in Redhat 5.2 or 6.0
> please tell me what I need to do step by step in order to get my zip
> drive to work? Sorry I am new to Linux
>
> Many many thanks
> Bono
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From: Joceli Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Viper 550 AGP
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:09:51 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Either download the latest XFree86 3.3.3.1 at www.xfree86.org or get RH6
at www.cheapbytes.com for a few bucks.
I have one of those cards and it works fine. if you want I can send a copy
of my
XF86Config, you still need the 3.3.3.1 though ;)
peter verver wrote:
Scu News wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get the Diaomond Viper 550 (Nvidia TNT Chipset)
> AGP
> > Card to run X under Redhat 5.2? I can't even get it to run in the
> simplest
> > VGA mode. Also, does anyone know of any 3D drivers for it?
> > Thanks
> > Cam
> >
> >
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sgi.hardware
Subject: Re: 1600SW settings and linux
Date: 23 Jun 1999 21:44:48 -0700
Hari Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have an SGI 1600SW monitor which I am using with the Accelerated X 5.0
> X server. Is there a utility available that will allow me to change the
> brightness, contrast, color temperature, etc? The configuration utility
> that comes with Accelerated X is pretty basic.
Not yet. Probably in XFree86-4.0.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: Jim Zubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise Ultra66 controller rumor
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:36:19 -0400
Greg Bartels wrote:
>
> Someone just told me that to run a PCI card at
> 66 mhz, all PCI cards in the computer
> need to be 66 Mhz. is this true?
Only if they are all on the same bus.
>
> if so, where the H am I going to get a
> PCI 66 mhz ethernet card and modem?
>
> is a differnt motherboard chipset used
> to run PCI66 Mhz? how do I identify
> a motherboard that can even handle PCI 66?
Right now I don't think there are any x86 MB that support 66
MHz PCI except for some server boards ($$$). you will
generally have to look up the MB specs to find this out. I
believe that some of the Alpha 64-bit PCI boards run at 66
MHz. Possibly the SGI Visual Workstation also.
--
Jim Zubb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JeroenHoppenbrouwers)
Subject: Exabyte 4200 problems
Date: 24 Jun 1999 05:19:17 GMT
I connected an Exabyte 4200 4mm DDS-2 DAT drive to my SCSI system
(Asus P2B motherboard with on-board 2940-like SCSI, 2x4.5Gb SCSI disk,
Plextor SCSI CDROM, all working fine). The system recognizes the tape,
mt seems to work, and tar cf /dev/nst0 * runs exactly as I expect it
to (I have used tar on the exact same drive successfully for years on
another machine under OS/2). However, tar x or tar t plainly refuses
to do anything. It sits there, spins the drive a bit forward and backward,
and then gives up with an IO error at the beginning of the tape.
When I look at /proc/scsi, everything seems fine. The write count on the
tape drive increases nicely during writes, but it stays at a hard zero
for reads. No error messages though. I'm lost.
I had first put the tape at the end of the narrow SCSI chain (disks on the
ultrawide, CDROM and tape on the narrow) using the tape's terminators.
Then I swapped tape and CDROM and now I use the CDROM's terminator (a
jumper setting, the DAT drive has resistor arrays). Swapping did increase
the responsiveness during writes, or so I feel.
Where do I need to start looking for errors? I still suppose it is a
cabling/termination problem, as I have successfully used this very drive
for years on another system.
All suggestions greatly welcomed. Slackware release 4.
--
dr.ir. Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers, Senior Researcher at | Stop recycling code;
Infolab, Tilburg University, The Netherlands | start recycling ideas!
http://infolab.kub.nl/people/hoppie
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overclocking under linux?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:30:04 -0500
John Hong wrote:
> Windows NT works the hardware more so than Windows 95/98, BTW.
> Yes, o/c can be a little detrimental. In my case, I was getting sig11
> errors during recompilation of the kernel. If you are o/c, try
> recompiling your kernel. If you pass, good for you...you should have no
> problems. If it fails, go back to the original setting of your CPU or
> select a more modest o/c.
On my newly built system I was getting signals 4 and 11 when compiling the
kernel and other large systems (Mesa, WINE) even *without* overclocking, and
a bit of deja-research sent me off to the store for a bigger CPU fan and some
thermal grease for the mount. It cleared up the signal problem immediately.
So if you start getting 11's, investigate your cooling situation. But in
general I agree with John: rebuilding the kernel seems to be a good benchmark
for whether you are overtaxing your system.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: David Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Remote console - Re: Remote fsck possible for Linux?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:11:02 GMT
This question is nothing to do with fsck in particular - what you want
is a remote console server. There are three parts to this:
1. Connecting from your terminal to the console server
PCanywhere is a bodge - Unix (and Linux) have *proper* support for
remote access, with telnet and X11, so that's that part taken care of.
2. Connecting out from the console server on a serial port
To connect out from a serial port, you need to use something like "cu"
or "minicom" - the latter is better suited to a modem, so I guess "cu"
is your man.
3. Getting the big server to use a serial port as its console
You then configure your server to use the serial port as its console.
Headless (i.e. video-card-less Solaris machines do this automatically;
if you want to run an Intel x86 Linux server with a serial port as its
console (as opposed to the first VGA card) I think it requires a kernel
reconfig. Do a deja.com search for "headless Linux".
Alternative:
For something a bit more sophisticated, instead of using see if you can
get hold of NCSA's spp-console, as used by HP for their Convex V-Class
servers. This has nice features like allowing multiple telnet'ed in
users to view the same console, with only one having the "keyboard" at
any time (with a "keyboard steal" option) and so on. The V-Class ships
with an HP715 workstation instead of a dumb terminal for a console, so
you can telnet in and reboot the V-Class from the comfort of your own
Linux box ;-)
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