Linux-Hardware Digest #617, Volume #9 Wed, 10 Mar 99 05:13:33 EST
Contents:
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Gianni Mariani)
Re: Linux with > 64MB RAM?? (Allen)
Re: Power Down with Linux? (Jim Zubb)
RedHat 5.2, Enscript and HP LJ 5L ("Cheng C. Yeh")
Re: Cheapest PS printer or althernative printing option ? (Grant Taylor)
Re: How to compile Kernel 2.2.2 with redhat 5.2??? (Lau Kin Jock)
3c509b/RH 5.2/DHCP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: kernel 2.2.2 and ftape (Guy Geens)
Xwindow flickering.. (Kevin)
Re: modutils for 2.2.2 (Andre Hinrichs)
Re: Which SMP Motherboard? (Ralf Lange)
can't see cdrom files after changing cd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
sound (Haaino Beljaars)
Re: How to compile Kernel 2.2.2 with redhat 5.2??? (Allen)
Re: can't see cdrom files after changing cd (Jim Reidford)
Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (Jason Clifford)
Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (Jason Clifford)
3c905b-TX with Mandrake 5.3 (or any Linux2.2) (eric)
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From: Gianni Mariani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:48:55 GMT
Johan Kullstam wrote:
> Gianni Mariani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Brian Moore writes:
> > > > > (Again, much of this is due to their non-compete clause that they signed
> > > > > when they sold Xenix off to SCO, so it's unlikely to change.)
> > > >
> > > > It'll change the moment they decide that buying out the agreement is a
> > > > worthwhile investment.
> > >
> > > yes, but as far as i can tell, microsoft are idealogically committed
> > > to destroying unix. i can see bill gates taking off his shoe and
> > > pounding it on the rostrum....
> > >
>
> > Microsoft doesn't even know how to spell Unix :(*) Who are you kidding :)(
>
> > Unix/Linux is alot of fun to use. But, until there is *lots* of cash
> > in it, MS won't take it seriously.
>
> MS do take unix seriously.
OK - how ?
> MS are committed to `windows everywhere'.
> that means, no other operating systems, e.g., unix. MS wouldn't even
> have to say `windows everywhere' is there goal if there were *no*
> competition.
NO, Windows everywhere is the way they see they will make the most
cash. Their committed to their shareholders, employees and customers.
That seems to best translate to Windows unless you have a better idea.
>
> > How do you go to your shareholders (of a $400billion company) and
> > tell them, BTW - we're dropping everything and going to Linux ? The
> > only ideology MS has is capitalism.
>
> why would they do that? every linux install is a rejection of
> windows.
Circular logic ...
>
>
> > When MS sees that it is able to make around $1billion/year in
> > software sales on Linux, you will see them porting stuff. Be
> > careful though, do you really want the "registry", "proc calls",
> > "GDI", "Direct-X" on Linux ? Gee, MS would love it,
>
> this is going off on a strange tangent...
Why ?
>
>
> > you get to support irate Win98 come Linux customers over the
> > comp.os.linux.misc newsgroup and they would have a field day
> > shipping Office for Linux. Oh, and then they would be the evil MS
> > because they support Linux and make a huge bunch of cash on Linux
> > apps but don't support the OS.
>
> > Tell you what: Make a proposal to MS (other than MS get lost) on how
> > you would make *lots* of cash selling Linux based products for MS.
>
> why? i really *do* want MS to *get* *lost*.
There are currently 400 billion reasons why they won't get lost in a hurry.
Live with it !
>
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Subject: Re: Linux with > 64MB RAM??
Date: 10 Mar 1999 03:20:52 GMT
FWIW, I installed RH 5.2 w/ the stock 2.0.36 kernel on a machine w/ 256 Mb of
RAM, and didn't do a thing to get it all recognized, but the Linux problem is
that it is just reporting what it finds in the bios, and if your motherboard
bios doesn't handle memory above 64 Mb too well, then it can't correctly report
it, and you may have trouble accessing or using it anyway, no matter what OS you
run on it.
It is merely asking for trouble to mix memory of different types, (or even of
different manufacturers) on the same system, due to fluctuations in timings
between the lots, and lack of enforced rigid quality control standards. In
Dos/windows anything, this isn't much of an issue, as Dos can't even see memory
above 1 Mb without help, and windows9x is just another in the series of patches
to hide this, but in a true 32-bit OS, with a flat memory model, the OS will see
all the memory that the BIOS will report and at start-up, so if your hardware is
the least bit flakey, then you will likely find out right away.
(my system is Supermicro P6DOF w/ 450 GX chipset, AMI bios, and Dual 180 Mhz
PPro's w/ 256 Kb cache, overclocked to 200 Mhz, and 256 Mb of FP RAM w/parity)
Make sure your bios is as up to date too as possible, as that could be a
factor...
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:21:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (User) wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem.
>I was running Linux with 32MB of EDO ram (4*8MB Simms)
>with no problem. Then I bought 2*32MB Simms and
>put those along with two of my 8MB simms in for a total
>of 80MB RAM. However, Linux seems to recognize only
>64MB.
>
>has anyone else had this problem?
>
>Thanks
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
PC/hardware Guru, and Linux Newbie--(how DO you exit vi?)
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From: Jim Zubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Power Down with Linux?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 22:54:54 -0500
Mohd H Misnan wrote:
>
> John Darrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >: Axel Liljencrantz wrote:
> >: >
> >: > Try enabling APM and the "Power down on shutdown" option in the Kernel
> >: > configuration, then recompile the kernel. Theoretically this should do it,
> >: > though it didn't do the trick for me. I'd be VERY intrested to know Your
> >: > results on this, to see if i should pursuit this further.
> >: >
> >: > /Axel Liljencrantz
> >
> >For me, when I did that with 2.0.36, the kernel just crashed when it tried
> >to power down. I haven't tried it with 2.2.x, ---- anyway I think its success
> >depends on the BIOS of the machine.
>
> On kernel 2.2.X, you need to use halt with option "p" (halt -p).
halt -p didn't work from the command line for me.
I had to edit my halt script in init.d to read:
*halt)
message="The system is halted"
command="halt -p"
Added the -p on the command line. This is on Redhat 5.2
system, YMMV on other distros.
--
Jim Zubb
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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:20:40 -0500
From: "Cheng C. Yeh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: RedHat 5.2, Enscript and HP LJ 5L
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone had ran into this problem and found a
solution. I have a perfectly good running system based on Red Hat 5.2
with SMP, 2.0.36 kernel; recently upgraded to 2.2.2 kernel.
I have an HP LaserJet 5L printer connected to /dev/lp0 and I am using
the LaserJet 4/5/6 printer filter. Everthing works fine, I can print
with lpr and stuff. However when I tries to print with enscript, the
printer doesn't eject the page. I can see that data are being sent to
the printer because the light is flashing but no matter how many pages I
print, I don't get any output. After print job is complete, I press the
form feed button and all I get is one page, the first page.
Has anyone else ran into this probem?
Thanks,
Cheng
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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Cheapest PS printer or althernative printing option ?
Date: 10 Mar 1999 01:28:39 -0500
"David J. Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[ Please try not to crosspost so wildly in the future; more than two
is probably too many. Some would say more than one. ]
> What is the cheapest postscript printer Linux would support and
> where can I get it cheap??
Do you need a Postscript printer? Linux can use Ghostscript to
print Postscript on all manner of non-Postscript devices.
The Printing HOWTO's companion compatibility listing lists a great
many printers which work perfectly with Linux; by definition this
includes the ability to print Postscript somehow, since that's how
most Unix software prints.
See http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi
> If I just want to print simple text (using inexpensive laser
> printer), do I need driver for each manufacturer??
No. Most any laser printer will accept plain ascii and print it. You
may need an lf->crlf filter, though; such a filter is easily made.
Consult the Printing HOWTO.
--
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
Cellphone information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/cell/
Libretto information: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/
Linux Printing HOWTO: http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/
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From: Lau Kin Jock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to compile Kernel 2.2.2 with redhat 5.2???
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:04:53 GMT
Brian McKerr wrote:
> I had _similar_ problems - I was able to compile 2.2.2 but could not get it to
> work via lilo as I usually do (I've been using and abusing linux since '93 ! by
> the way), The exact same Kernel that would not boot from lilo was able to boot
> when I copied it to floppy with "cp vmlinuz-2.2.2 /dev/fd0" !!!!
>
> When trying to boot from lilo it stopped after LI, looking at the doco (in
> /usr/doc) it explains what the problem is, but it wasn't detailed enough to
> help me further.
The same thing happened to me, but here's the interesting part. IfI boot from a
boot floppy that I made for Caldera 1.3 and run Lilo from there, my 2.2.x
kernel works fine. If I run it from the hd, I only get LI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: 3c509b/RH 5.2/DHCP
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:03:05 GMT
I am trying to get linux to run with my cable modem.
I have already disabled PNP.
I was getting the message
"delaying eth0 initialization"
then I implemented the changes suggested by Tim Stark
i.e changed my /etc/conf.modules to read
alias eth0 3c509
options eth0 io=0x300 irq5
and then type
insmod 3c509
then run netcfg and activate eth0.
Now I get Mar 10 22:55:50 localhost kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995
Caldera, Inc. Mar 10 22:55:51 localhost kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux
NET3.035 Mar 10 22:55:52 localhost insmod:
/lib/modules/preferred/net/3c509.o: symbol for parameter io not found
delaying eth0 initialization
when I boot up.
if I run ifconfig I get the following
eth0
Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:5A:25:23:ED
inet addr:204.210.62.215 Bcast:204.210.62.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:38 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0
Interrupt:10 Base address:0x300
can any one tell me what I still need to change to get this working??
I beleive the 3c509 driver that I am running is Donald Beckers v.1.16 which as
far as I can tell is the most up to date version.
thanks
Ivan
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From: Guy Geens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.2 and ftape
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:25:17 +0100
The tape uses the devices /dev/qft?, /dev/nqft? and /dev/rawft?
(? = a number from 0 to 3).
You can create them with the script MAKEDEV.ftape (somewhere in the
ftape directory).
I would advise you to install the ftape-tools, and read the ftape
documentation. (Both available on sunsite or its mirrors, in the
directory /pub/Linux/kernel/tapes).
Mike McLean wrote:
>
> I need help setting up ftape that comes with kernel 2.2.x. I've got the
> modules built and loaded, but dunno where my tape is located under /dev,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Subject: Xwindow flickering..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 05:07:23 GMT
I finally got so far as to get an Xwindow to flicker gray, and black
back and forth..
what else do i do in the config to make it right??
is it a monitor, or a mouse, or a keyboard, or a vid card setting
problem now??
Kevin
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From: Andre Hinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: modutils for 2.2.2
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:54:11 +0100
Andre Hinrichs wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.misc yhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've installed kernel 2.2.2 successfully just for module support (marked
> > > ENABLE LOADABLE MODULE SUPPORT and KERNEL MODULE LOADER). My modutils
> > > are 2.1.85 - they run with my old kernel 2.0.33, but they fail with
> > > 2.2.2.
> > > Can anybody give me a hint?! yves
> > Yes.
> > You need modutils 2.1.121.
>
> Why is there still no modutils 2.2.x available?
>
> Andre
I got some mails wondering if this is necessary.
Ok, a new version is not necessary, but the modutils 2.1.121 is
located in the 2.1.x kernel tree, where the hacker versions are.
I think renaming the package to 2.2.0 and putting it to the
v2.2 kernel tree would be very good, since a lot of people ask
for the necessary modutils version for 2.2.x kernel series.
Bye
/Andre
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From: Ralf Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Which SMP Motherboard?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:49:19 +0100
I use an ASUS P2B-DS with two 400MHz PII. The box runs the apache
server, Oracle, StarOffice, Netscape and works as a IP Masquerading
Server. I started with kernel 2.0.36 and upgraded to 2.2.1, 2.2.2 and
2.2.3 without having any problems.
The speedup for a kernel compile is about 1.8 using 2CPUs vs. 1CPU. This
speedup is true while x11amp, xosview, apache and oracle are running.
Not too bad.
--
Ralf Lange
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: can't see cdrom files after changing cd
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 05:08:53 GMT
hi, I have a problem with my RH cdrom. I have everything running great
except I can't list out any files in the cdrom after I changed to another
cdrom (not the drive, the cdrom disk itself). Usually, I have to remount the
cdrom drive after loggin in, since the OS detects there is no disk in the
cdrom, and hence it doesnt mount the drive upon booting up. I have to mount
it manually.
After mounting it, I can list out the files in the cdrom. Then, if i
inserted another cdrom, I can't see the files in there. It just shows a bunch
of ???????? Any one knows how to solve that? Thanks.
p/s: Please cc a reply to my email. T Q.
Rgs,
CH
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From: Haaino Beljaars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:02:09 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I have removed my SBpro from my linux RH 5.2, with still kernel 2.036 on
it, and I have turned of the sound deamon in the setup. But at boot time
linux still tries to locate the sound card. What should I do make linux
confinced that I don't have a sound card anymore?
--
Greetings from Haaino Beljaars
Home Page: HTTP://www.phys.uu.nl/~beljaars/
I am pro Open Source Software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to compile Kernel 2.2.2 with redhat 5.2???
Date: 10 Mar 1999 09:47:56 GMT
Where is it giving you the error? WHat error do you get?
I found that using "make bzImage" instead of "zImage" fixed my compile problems
with 2.0.36, and this is so far, largly undocumented. The error I was getting
was "kernel too big"- as I was trying to compile an SMP version.
On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:07:22 +1100, "Aaron Saikovski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Please Help!!
>I have followed the how-to's to the letter, I have used the Linus
>pocketbook.
>I cannot get the 2.2.2 kernel to work correctly under RedHat 5.2.
>
>I compiled the kernel, removed static links to linux, I have made the
>modules, made the modules_install.
>I have moved the zImage to /boot.
>When I reboot and try to boot the new kernel, it causes a total system
>reboot..
>In the /boot directory there is still initrd etc files...
>
>Is there an updated version of the kernel how-to that focuses primarily on
>redhat5.2 and the latest kernel build?
>I have followed the how-to to the letter and it doesn't workj with redhat
>5.2
>Please help!!
>
>Thanks!
>
>Aaron
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Allen
(email addy; user ID portion has a numeral one in place of word
onespoiler, and of course, delete the bogus secondary domain of nospam.)
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From: Jim Reidford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't see cdrom files after changing cd
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:07:14 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi, I have a problem with my RH cdrom. I have everything running great
> except I can't list out any files in the cdrom after I changed to another
> cdrom (not the drive, the cdrom disk itself). Usually, I have to remount the
> cdrom drive after loggin in, since the OS detects there is no disk in the
> cdrom, and hence it doesnt mount the drive upon booting up. I have to mount
> it manually.
>
> After mounting it, I can list out the files in the cdrom. Then, if i
> inserted another cdrom, I can't see the files in there. It just shows a bunch
> of ???????? Any one knows how to solve that? Thanks.
>
> p/s: Please cc a reply to my email. T Q.
>
> Rgs,
> CH
>
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You need to unmount the CD before removing it and then remount so that
the 'filesystem' is re-read
--
Jim Reidford
--
"Due to financial constraints,
the light at the end of the tunnel
has been turned off until further notice !!"
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 03:42:51 +0000
On 9 Mar 1999, it was written:
> > OK then if you are so sure of this I challenge you to give the exact price
> > a person based in the UK would pay if they bought the system today
> > including shipping to the UK (next day service), import duty and VAT.
> > Don't forget to include the carriers admin charge for advanced payment of
> > the VAT and import duties.
>
> US$ 1632.66
Very droll. The simple fact is that my challenge cannot be answered so
simply as you have no way of knowing until after the delivery has arrived
how much you will have to pay in duties and VAT and courier admin fees.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 03:47:15 +0000
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Phil Stevens wrote:
> The original poster asked for opinions regarding inexpensive notebook
> hardware for a Linux installation project. Some of your Anglocentric
> feathers were ruffled when example prices in US dollars were
> mentioned. Some of us outside your country wondered why you carry on
> about UK newsgroups in international ones.
Because this thread is being cross posted to UK.comp.os.linux which,
strangely enough, is a UK specific newsgroup where the pound sterling is
the standard unit of currency.
> Indeed. Shall we all quote prices in Indonesian rupiahs from here on
> out?
Perhaps if you start cross posting the thread to an indian.
A better solution would be to trip the headers.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.misc
Subject: 3c905b-TX with Mandrake 5.3 (or any Linux2.2)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:41:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howdy,
I recently tried Redhat Linux 5.0. It was an overall good experience,BUT i
couldnt get my NIC to work. I was told because that it is in PnP mode, and
since the PnP setting are controlled by my BIOS,,, this NIC didnt like that..
so it didnt work... the Card works *perfect* with NT now, but not with Linux.
I was wondering if the *New* Linux Kernel will support this card?
Thanks in advance,
eric
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