Linux-Hardware Digest #100, Volume #9 Mon, 4 Jan 99 03:13:57 EST
Contents:
Re: Matrox G200, Xfree 3.3.3 Partial Solution, Need Help... (Craig Goodrich)
Re: AGP Support in Redhat 5.2? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations sought ("James A. Cleland")
Re: WHEE!!!! Linux on an 386 (for real) w/ 4M (LinuxCyrix)
Re: HP Colorado 5GB Tape Drive ATAPI interface error message on RH 5.2 (Rohit Singh)
Re: scanner problem: (Rohit Singh)
Building a Linux box for home use. (JRED45)
Re: Printers for OS/2 and Linux (Duncan Munro)
Re: Building a Linux box for home use. (Rod Roark)
Re: linux viruses ("G.M.Trias")
Re: Postscript printing problems (Norbert Goebel)
Re: Postscript printing problems (Norbert Goebel)
NEC multisync 2a modeline (Henk en Brendan)
Install Problems: PCMCIA Amb8002, Sound Card ESS1869 on my (Srinivasan Chakravarthi)
Re: Building a Linux box for home use. ("G.M.Trias")
Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations ("Thomas Bendler")
Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem ( Larry Pyeatt)
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:33:09 -0600
From: Craig Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Matrox G200, Xfree 3.3.3 Partial Solution, Need Help...
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
> 1) The Xconfigurator utility now core dumps on me. Has anyone else seen this
> aberrent behaviour and managed to resolve it? xf86config works just fine?
Check the date on Xconfigurator; it may be the one from 3.3.2 and the
new
X libs confuse it. xf86config is, I think, part of the X distribution,
so
it would be updated at the same time X is.
> 2) I notice that in 24 and 32 bit depths my colors are a bit off? For example
> the icons in netscape are an awfull sort of grey? Again, has anyone else
> noticed this? I have 8MB of ram on my G200, do I need to upgrade to 16MB or
> higher?
This also happens on my 4M ViRGE/VX. It may be a bug in either Netscape
or
in the SVGA server. I just use 16 bpp....
> 3) Now when I do a rpm -qa | grep -i xfree, I see both the 3.3.2 packages and
> the 3.3.3 packages? Can I safely remove the 3.3.2 packages or do I need to
> uninstall everything for Xfree and install just the 3.3.3 stuff?
DO NOT TRY TO REMOVE 3.3.2! That'll blow away the corresponding 3.3.3
files!
Moral: next time use the UPDATE switch on RPM, rpm -Uvh
xfwhatever....rpm
-i with --force is nearly always a mistake, and will have this result.
If
you want to clean it up, uninstall both and reinstall 3.3.3 OR (and you
may
as well try this if you have nothing to lose) reinstall 3.3.3 WITH THE
UPDATE
SWITCH this time. This might straighten everything out (or, of course,
it
might not...).
> 4) I notice in the /etc/X11/XF86Config file created for me there are
> references to an Accelerated Server? Does anyone know what this is? Is it
> worth looking into? Does the G200 support it?
The "accel" servers include XF86_S3, -_Mach64, -_W32 and so on. There's
a general long-term move to roll everything into the -_SVGA server,
which
is where the new G200 support is. In 3.3.3, for example, XF86_S3V is no
longer the recommended server for ViRGE, although it's still provided;
XFree recommends using the SVGA server which contains ViRGE (and Matrox)
acceleration. There's no separate "accel" server for G100/G200, but
don't fret: SVGA drives the card as fast as anything could (which, I
understand, is pretty damn fast; I envy you).
You might want to take a look at the XF 3.3.3 release notes and other
documentation at http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.3 . Also, for your
amusement
and edification, I have an SVGA server at the URL below which supports
True Type fonts, and I'd appreciate someone testing it on a new Matrox
to see if it works (hint, hint).
Best wishes for the New Year,
Craig
--
Craig Goodrich
Rural Village Systems
somewhere in the woods near Huntsville, Alabama
Politics for the Thinking Redneck -- http://airnet.net/craig/g4c
Linux miscellany -- http://airnet.net/craig/linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AGP Support in Redhat 5.2?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 06:11:58 GMT
In article <76ov6d$gnc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Oded Arbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> rhs wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Does any flavor of Linux support AGP video cards? I can get it up with a
> >PCI card but my primary card is a Canopus Spectra 2500 (AGP). (Yes I know
> >there may not be drivers for the nVida chip yet.)
> RedHat 5.1 running XFree86 3.3.3 seem to work quite well with my nVidis
> RivaTNT card
>
> Oded
>
>
In fact, believe stock kernel (RH 5.0+) already supports AGP cards. I use
RH5.0 with a SiS6326 AGP 4MB card, with a Suse driver, not the XFree driver (
SiS not supported) - and it works just fine.
Rgds.
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From: "James A. Cleland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations sought
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 01:26:34 -0500
James Turner wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new monitor, and I've decided to go with a 19
> inch of some type. My chief uses for my computer are coding, web
> browsing, email, graphic arts, etc -- in other words, mostly text
> based uses.
There's a monitor out by a company called, um, KDM? No, KDS (looked it
up). They are REALLY cheap and don't look too bad. You might want to do a
side by side comparison between that and something better, but I think
the 19" is around US$400 with the 21" weighing in around US$600 (If I
remember correctly). Other than that, I'm not too keen on 19" monitors
and their specs. I know these were .26 dp. Just something to check out
incase of budget constrants.
> I would like to be able to run at 1600x1200, but I'm not sure how well
> suited 19 inch monitors are for this type of activity. I like
> cramming a great deal of things on the screen, though, so I'd like to
> push as high as possible
If you REALLY want to run 1600x1200, I would reccomend a 21" monitor. I'm
using a Viewsonic G810 now and I really like it. The display is really
clear. Someone else mentioned a Nokia. I imagine if he was that impressed
with their 19", their 21" must be worth looking at as well. I don't know
anything about Nokia, but I do love my Viewsonic. Check 'em out.
FWIW: Monitors are really getting cheap (price) these days. If you like
to fill the screen with alot of info like I do (and you said you did), it
might be worth looking into that 21". If you buy a good one now that has
an enormous amount of screen area, you won't have to upgrade later. I
love being able to open 4 editors at once and look at all 80 columns of
text simultaneously.
James
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LinuxCyrix)
Subject: Re: WHEE!!!! Linux on an 386 (for real) w/ 4M
Date: 4 Jan 1999 04:35:47 GMT
Ok.. It's me, the 386 man. So far what I have gleaned from ya all (thanks lots
for the many suggestions... some of them look very promising) is that I'll be
doing a manual install (I DO have a bigger machine to compile on. The one I'm
on now has 6G dedicated to Linux outta 8). I have my kernel compiled to
include only those little services and drivers I think I'll need, i.e. my
cdrom, my ethernet card, and the networking stuff. zImage looks like about
387k. But the real problem is getting it all together on a disk and booting
from it, then using the boot disk to partition the HD, and cping the root
directory to disk. There is no real distro involved, other than I'm using the
2.0.34-0.6 kernel from RedHat. I'm afraid that the kernel (I have a stripped
one ... is only 333k compressed) and the uncompressed root won't fit into 4m.
After I got that, I'll do the root install and configging so that I can get
lilo to boot the HD. When I boot, I'm home free... but that's the catch.
Booting that thing has been really difficult. It's a bare machine right now.
The HD has been fdisked. I can't get into the BIOS and play with that, cuz it's
an old Compaq and they don't like us consumer ppl messin' around with real
important things. Especial thanks for the guy who directed me toward Yard
(whoever you were), but for some reason it wants to include /vmlinuz instead
zImage when I've specified zImage in Config.pl. I've contacted the author about
this, but I haven't gotten a reply yet. Also, the memory expansion isn't a
normal simm. I have a 16mhz expansion board (yes, this is for real), so I feel
that I'll never ever get to upgrade that.
Oh yeah.. no X on this one. Don't wanna eat any more memory than I have to !! :
)
Thanx, Grazie, Gracias, Danke, Arigato... blah blah.
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From: Rohit Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP Colorado 5GB Tape Drive ATAPI interface error message on RH 5.2
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 06:26:59 +0000
I just got Eagle TR3 Tapedrive to work. Tape drive now works great both
under windows and linux. I made clean backup and then did restore on
both of them. Below is a link you should look at for linux tapes.
http://www.math1.rwth-aachen.de/~heine/ftape/
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From: Rohit Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: scanner problem:
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 06:30:44 +0000
looks like you are missing sane package. It must be on your cd
sane*.rpm. or you can get it from
http://www.mostang.com/sane
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JRED45)
Subject: Building a Linux box for home use.
Date: 4 Jan 1999 06:42:01 GMT
I am planning to build a Linux box that will be running Redhat 5.2 for home
use. I don't want to buy computer hardware( video cards,modem etcc..) that
wouldn't work for the Redhat 5.2 (incompatible) Does anybody has a Hardware
list that has been proven to work on Linux? specially those modems. Thanx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Munro)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Printers for OS/2 and Linux
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:15:21 GMT
The Epson 800 should be well supported (as are a variety of inkjet
printers) under Linux. I know that the GIMP works well with the Epson
800 and there is a driver for GSview as well.
AFAIK most inkjets are "winprinters" in the sense that the OS is
responsible for rastering the image. There is no reason why any
printer will not work with Linux except that a suitable may not have
been written.
You have listed your choice of printers in ascending order of print
quality IMHO. Using photoweight paper the Epson still has the best
output. However, for me the deciding factor is the Epson 800's very
large black ink tank which can print 900 - 1000 pages of standard text
on a single tank.
Duncan
On 03 Jan 1999 17:49:31 PST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I know we have been around this block several times before...
>And I have read the archives and Deja news...
>
>So I'm hoping somone out there can help me make the
>final cut on this printer selection list.
>
>The situation:
>I will be buying a new computer in the next month or
>two. It will undoubtably come with Win98 preinstalled.
>I plan to repartition the hard drive and add Linux (probably
>Red Hat), and OS/2 (version 3.0). So I will need a printer
>that will be supported by all these OS's. I was going to
>get a Lexmark 5700 untill I found out that it was a Win-
>printer and Linux probably doesn't support it. Next on the
>list is the HP 722. I believe that this is a real printer
>and there have been roumors of a new driver that gives
>better OS/2 graphics printing.
>Last on the list in the Epson Stylus 800 Color inkjet.
>Appearently there is a driver available that gives very
>good OS/2 graphics printing. Price is right, as I can get
>a rebuilt one for about $175.00. What about Linux support ???
>
>That is the short list. The final cut will depend heavily
>on what Linux support is available. And I have been told
>that the 722 may be the way to go on that issue. Any
>comments anyone??
>
>--
>Just my $0.02 worth.
>Hope this helps,
>Gordon
>
>PS:
>To reply: replace 'X.bleeb' with 'greeder'.
>
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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Building a Linux box for home use.
Date: 4 Jan 1999 07:36:33 GMT
JRED45 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am planning to build a Linux box that will be running Redhat 5.2 for home
>use. I don't want to buy computer hardware( video cards,modem etcc..) that
>wouldn't work for the Redhat 5.2 (incompatible) Does anybody has a Hardware
>list that has been proven to work on Linux? specially those modems. Thanx
Get an external modem: easier to troubleshoot, less line noise, no
compatibility hassles. Supra seems to be mentioned a lot as being
a good value.
-- Rod
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Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ Starting at $499
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From: "G.M.Trias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux viruses
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:32:06 -0800
x wrote:
> is it possible to get a virus protector for linux?
You don't need one.
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From: Norbert Goebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Postscript printing problems
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:06:45 +0100
I tried lpr -l too, but this gives only empty pages or, if I print a a2ps converted
file, a printer hangup. But like before, if I print ps-files not made by a2ps,
everything works fine.
I played a little bit with a2ps and found out, that if I use the option -ni, I get
no hangups any longer, but only white pages. After using the -ns option too, I get
a page with the Header, the date and filename but not with the documenttext itself
on it.
I also installed a 16MB PS/2 module instead the 4MB to check if theres a
memoryproblem like not enough or not working ram.
Norbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 02:23:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Today I bought a Kyocera FS-800 printer (standard 4MB RAM and KPDL2 =
> >Kyocera Postscript Level 2 Emulation) and put 4MB more in it (I have the same
> >problems without them).
> >
> >Now I installed the printer as a postscript printer under Suse Linux 6.0 and
> >tied to print
> >something.
> >
> >lpr .bashrc
> >just gives me an empty page
>
> Some PS printers are more sensitive to line brakes in the PS source than
> others. HPs are, DEClasers aren't. Just use lpr -l file.ps and you should
> be fine. ^^^
>
> >printing a valid postscript file p.ps (created with "a2ps .profile -nP >p.ps")
> >with "lpr p.ps", the data
> >seems to get to the printer, because the data receive lamp goes on and the
> >printer
> >display says "Es wird gedruckt"="Printing". I wait for 30 minutes but nothing
> >more
> >happens, the cancel printjob button on the printer (which works fine with any
> >other
> >printer emulation than kpdl) fails and I have to switch the printer on an off
> >again. The same happens if I make "cp p.ps /dev/lp1" so this shouldn't be a
> >queue problem, I think.
> >
> >I install the printer as a HP Laserjet 4 (because it has a Laserjet5si
> >emulation build in too) and everything works fine (but its a ps-printer and i
> >want to use it as one).
> >
> >So I tried windows and ther the all Windows drivers worked well (including
> >the PS-Drivers) but switching to dos and trying type p.ps >lpt1 and choosing
> >kpdl or kpdl(auto) as the emulation I get the same as in Linux?
> >
> >What am I missing? Do I have to do something else? I tried it as a 300dpi and
> >600dpi (both in Linux printer setup and the printer menu itself) because I
> >thought 8 MB could be not enough memory, but the p.ps file is only 10 kb. I
> >tried tunelp and setting of different transferspeeds to the printer (also the
> >data seems to be send to it correctly because of the status-lamps of the
> >printer and no printjobs with lpq), but it didn't help.
> >
> >Sorry, I am new to Linux and ps-printer installation, so hopefully this is
> >only a stupid question.
> >
> >Thank you for any help.
> >Norbert
> >
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From: Norbert Goebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Postscript printing problems
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:27:13 +0100
I tried lpr -l too, but this gives only empty pages or, if I print a a2ps converted
file, a printer hangup. But like before, if I print ps-files not made by a2ps,
everything works fine.
I played a little bit with a2ps and found out, that if I use the option -ni, I get
no hangups any longer, but only white pages. After using the -ns option too, I get
a page with the Header, the date and filename but not with the documenttext itself
on it.
I also installed a 16MB PS/2 module instead the 4MB to check if theres a
memoryproblem like not enough or not working ram.
Norbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 02:23:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Today I bought a Kyocera FS-800 printer (standard 4MB RAM and KPDL2 =
> >Kyocera Postscript Level 2 Emulation) and put 4MB more in it (I have the same
> >problems without them).
> >
> >Now I installed the printer as a postscript printer under Suse Linux 6.0 and
> >tied to print
> >something.
> >
> >lpr .bashrc
> >just gives me an empty page
>
> Some PS printers are more sensitive to line brakes in the PS source than
> others. HPs are, DEClasers aren't. Just use lpr -l file.ps and you should
> be fine. ^^^
>
> >printing a valid postscript file p.ps (created with "a2ps .profile -nP >p.ps")
> >with "lpr p.ps", the data
> >seems to get to the printer, because the data receive lamp goes on and the
> >printer
> >display says "Es wird gedruckt"="Printing". I wait for 30 minutes but nothing
> >more
> >happens, the cancel printjob button on the printer (which works fine with any
> >other
> >printer emulation than kpdl) fails and I have to switch the printer on an off
> >again. The same happens if I make "cp p.ps /dev/lp1" so this shouldn't be a
> >queue problem, I think.
> >
> >I install the printer as a HP Laserjet 4 (because it has a Laserjet5si
> >emulation build in too) and everything works fine (but its a ps-printer and i
> >want to use it as one).
> >
> >So I tried windows and ther the all Windows drivers worked well (including
> >the PS-Drivers) but switching to dos and trying type p.ps >lpt1 and choosing
> >kpdl or kpdl(auto) as the emulation I get the same as in Linux?
> >
> >What am I missing? Do I have to do something else? I tried it as a 300dpi and
> >600dpi (both in Linux printer setup and the printer menu itself) because I
> >thought 8 MB could be not enough memory, but the p.ps file is only 10 kb. I
> >tried tunelp and setting of different transferspeeds to the printer (also the
> >data seems to be send to it correctly because of the status-lamps of the
> >printer and no printjobs with lpq), but it didn't help.
> >
> >Sorry, I am new to Linux and ps-printer installation, so hopefully this is
> >only a stupid question.
> >
> >Thank you for any help.
> >Norbert
> >
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> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: Henk en Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEC multisync 2a modeline
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 08:49:15 +0100
I am trying to find a modeline for a NEC Multisync 2a. The horizontal
frequencies are:
31.5 and 35 KHz. The vertical frequencies are: 56, 60, 70 Hz. The
maximum resolution is 800x600 and the video bandwidth is 38MHz
I have been trying all sorts of things (including modeplot in Eric S.
Raymond's videotimings HOWTO) but I can't get this monitor to work
properly. The screen/viewing area is much to small (about an inch and a
half from the normal screenborders I get in WIN95)
I use a ATI 3D Charger videocard with a max. dotclock of 200MHz, so lots
of room to play with in that respect.
Please help!
Henk de Kruyff
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Srinivasan Chakravarthi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Install Problems: PCMCIA Amb8002, Sound Card ESS1869 on my
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 13:58:06 -0500
I installed Red Hat Linux 5.2 (Apollo) from a freeware CD. The
installation (including partition for win98) went fine, except that I
cant get it to recognise my Ambicom Amb8002 PCMCIA card. cardmgr exites
with an error:
'no /proc/devices found' . I am a novice to Linux installation and can't
figure out whats wrong.
Also, the sound card ESS1869 is recognised but says resource busy. I saw
quite a few questions on the net with this problem but couldnt find any
threads explaining how to resolve it.
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From: "G.M.Trias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Building a Linux box for home use.
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:33:35 -0800
JRED45 wrote:
> I am planning to build a Linux box that will be running Redhat 5.2 for home
> use. I don't want to buy computer hardware( video cards,modem etcc..) that
> wouldn't work for the Redhat 5.2 (incompatible) Does anybody has a Hardware
> list that has been proven to work on Linux? specially those modems. Thanx
Hi,
Check out RedHat's web site for a listing of compatible hardware for Linux.
Just in case you don't have it:
http://www.redhat.com
Good Luck
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From: "Thomas Bendler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 19 inch monitor recommendations
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:46:08 +0100
Hello James,
I get a 19" Macom monitor a few weeks ago. At my opion a resolution greater
1280x1024 is not very usefull because the fonts went too small. Also I would
use a 8mb videocard to force a resolution more than 1024x768. I most cases
the RAMDAC is better on this cards.
regards Thomas
James Turner schrieb in Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>I'm in the market for a new monitor, and I've decided to go with a 19
>inch of some type. My chief uses for my computer are coding, web
>browsing, email, graphic arts, etc -- in other words, mostly text
>based uses. I play games occasionally, but only a small fraction of
>the time compared to the other uses.
>
>I would like to be able to run at 1600x1200, but I'm not sure how well
>suited 19 inch monitors are for this type of activity. I like
>cramming a great deal of things on the screen, though, so I'd like to
>push as high as possible -- 1280x1024 would be fine if necessary. If
>it matters, I have an ATI All-in-Wonder (4 meg), and from what I've
>heard, it can push higher end resolutions/refresh rates without a
>problem.
>
>Right now I'm looking mainly at:
>Iiyama VisionMaster 450
>Viewsonic G790
>Optiquest V95
>
>I've read a number of reviews on the web regarding each of these, and
>they all seem to have strong points to them, but I've not been able to
>find enough info to make the decision any easier -- it would seem the
>entire business of monitor reviews is, at best, a murky business.
>
>Any suggestions, recommendations, horror stories, etc would be great.
>
>TIA,
>Chip
>
>--
>James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 1102038
> http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~turnerjh/
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Larry Pyeatt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: need to take action on the Winmodem problem
Date: 30 Dec 1998 17:47:27 GMT
In article <76ca96$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael David Jones) writes:
> This is where the Linux crowd needs to get a good stiff double shot of
> the real world. People buy winmodems. They buy them because they're
> cheap, and because they're good enough for most people's needs.
Bullshit. People buy winmodems because they don't know any better.
The people selling computers can put a few dollars in their pockets
and lower their prices at the same time. They do not go to the
effort of actually telling their customers that they are getting
a winmodem or what it means. They do not explain to the customer
that their modem will cease to function when they upgrade to NT.
Caveat Emptor!
> If you want those people to consider Linux, you need to make it work
> with the hardware they have.
As soon as MS shows how it can be done with NT, then I will believe
that it can be done with Linux. Until then, it is a waste of time.
> It's really funny, you know. I'm a Unix-head from
> way back, and my first exposure to Linux was from people raving about
> how it would run on just about any old cheap, crufty hunk of silicon.
> Now, suddenly, winmodems aren't good enough for the Linux crowd. Well,
> fellas, I can only say: fish or cut bait.
Linux does not run on 8086 or 6502 processors either. There is a certain
minimum level of hardware support that is needed for Linux and NT. It is
not a matter of being old and crufty. Winmodems are simply a bad idea
on a real multitasking OS.
At some point, you just have to ask someone whether or not they want to
run Linux or NT. If they want a more powerful OS, then they have to
buy hardware that it can use. Fish or cut bait? Put up or shut up.
I am really looking forward to people upgrading to Windows 2000.
What? I have to buy a new modem?!
--
Larry D. Pyeatt All standard disclaimers apply.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Void where prohibited.
http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~pyeatt
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