Linux-Hardware Digest #103, Volume #10 Mon, 26 Apr 99 17:13:36 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help with Fujitsu DynaMO 640 SE (Richard D. McRoberts)
Re: Programmers are gods (Donal K. Fellows)
Re: Programmers are gods (Donal K. Fellows)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Matthias
Warkus)
best card for X? (Rob)
Re: Programmers are gods (Donal K. Fellows)
Re: Programmers are gods (Donal K. Fellows)
Re: best card for X? (Christopher James Smith)
Xerox Docuprint P8 (Chain-Wu Lee)
diamond viper 550 & XFree ("Apostolos P. Tsompanopoulos")
Linux on Compaq Armada 6500 (Juergen Fiedler)
Serial Problems with CPU upgrade (Donald M Burns)
Re: Automating the works with xawtv and STB TV card (Henrik Carlqvist)
Re: pnpdump doesn't see PnP modem?? (Robert Schiele)
Re: SCSI CD-RW Drives (Rob Komar)
ISA-Modem on irq5 (Thorsten Niebuhr)
Re: Matrox Millenium MGA-G200 AGP under Redhat 5.2? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Programmers are gods ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard D. McRoberts)
Subject: Re: Help with Fujitsu DynaMO 640 SE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:49:22 GMT
On 26 Apr 1999 09:18:37 +0200, Wolfgang Leideck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We have Suse 6.1 with kernel 2.2.5 running. Now we want use our MO
>drive with with 640MB medias. The kernel should support this but it
>doesn't work for us. If we mount the device we got the error
>message that the device could not mount, because of wrong superblock,
>to many mounts, etc.
>After we create a new filesystem with mke2fs -b 2048 we could mount
>the media, but we couldn't write on it because no space left on device.
The "Changes" file in 2.2.6 has been updated to discuss this. It says
util-linux-2.9i or later is required. However, for me it has been also
necessary to "deceive" fdisk by telling it the number of heads is 16
(not 64); the number of cylinders (606) and sectors is unchanged. Then it
all works.
Hope this helps.
--
Richard D. McRoberts
Charleston, WV USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:51:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gotta love emacs' magic brace matching.
>
> Of course it pukes on perl constructs like:
> ${$self}{'Key'} = "blah";
> because it assumes that ${ is a variable, which it isn't in this case.
I'd hazard that puking on perl is understandable. 'Cos the language
is pretty pukey itself... :^P
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:58:20 GMT
In article <7ft0cd$1ggo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ben Z. Tels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you don't document your assertions, you are dead. That's all
>> there's to it.
>
> How about a compromise: comment the parts that wouldn't be obvious
> to people who understand the code well enough to improve it.
Comment your code so that they describe what you would like to
happen. Like that if it turns out that it doesn't do what is
intended, someone else might be able to figure out how to fix it.
Doing otherwise is great sport, but only when you can know for certain
that you are not going to be that someone else who is supposed to do
the fix. IOW, if you DO do it, leave your job and move to a different
town/county/state/country/continent/planet/universe...
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:36:57 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 24 Apr 1999 22:42:04 -0400...
..and Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Yes. It's a pity, though, that you cannot name a file "Important:
> > read/send" for instance, because it "disallows" some characters in
> > file names.
>
> unix disallows that one too. you cannot have / in a filename.
I've heard that you can, at least in theory, provided a buggy enough
program (whatever they meant with that beats me). But it would be
pretty much impossible to access that file once created, since
everybody would parse the slash as a path separator.
mawa
--
The day-to-day travails of the Windows programmer are so amusing to
most of us who are fortunate enough never to have been one -- like
watching Charlie Chaplin trying to cook a shoe.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob)
Subject: best card for X?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:58:44 -0400
I'm putting together a new box from scratch, and I'm having a hard time
deciding what card to buy (surprise, surprise)> I really like the Rage
Fury, with the Rage 128 chipset, but as far as I can tell I'd have to buy
Accelerated-X to run X with it. I'm curious about the TNT2 chipset,
expecially since nVidia recently announced forthcoming Linux support for
it, but I haven't heard much about it. I want a card with AGP, TV-out, and
hardware DVD support. Any suggestions from y'all? Should I just suck it up
and buy Accelerated-X, or wait and see who supports Linux first- ATI or
nVidia, or somebody else (3dfx?)
Bo Williams
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:48:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem with ISO9000 (and other quality assurance systems) is
> that it assumes everybody's ability are equal and can work at 100%
> efficiency all the time.
>
> I think the main idea of ISO* is that they make people think that
> you can simply replace a person because their work/methods are
> documented enough to allow someone else to pick it up. In real
> life that's not true.
While I agree with you at least in part, I would claim that what
you've written indicates that you are approaching this from a
"software as art/craft" PoV as opposed to a "software as an engineered
artefact" PoV.
> Also, who decides the quality of the documents? Peers? I once
> had to review a design document and after I read it, I just couldn't
> believe it was written by a "professional".
Writing a tech document is a completely different skill to writing a
program.
> Personally I believe programmers are artists, just like musicians.
> Their creations reflect their mood and personality.
OK. It isn't engineered; its crafted. I suppose that is good enough
for a cute client, but I'd hate to have anything critical depending on
it, *especially* if I had no way of determining if the program was
correct. I can write a wrong program faster than you...
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: 26 Apr 1999 12:03:23 GMT
In article <7fqfbk$hpt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> westprog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The right way to do it is to update the design where needed, so
>> that at the end of the project, the design documents match the code
>> produced. This sounds simple but it is very difficult to do.
>
> Yes, how does this relate to the real world code that everybody runs:
> sendmail, apache, perl, the Linux kernel, etc.
The designs of those systems, and especially their external
interfaces, are pretty well documented (on many dead trees) and
understood. There is a big difference between development (interface
changes fairly common) and maintenance (interface changes mostly
rare, 'cos they'd be bugs themselves...)
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
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From: Christopher James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best card for X?
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:44:35 +0100
Hi,
I purchased an ATI Rage Fury a few weeks ago for my Windows (Yuck) box
and am waiting for an X server which works. I'd say though, that due to
the popularity of ATI cards - particularly with OEMs, we are likely to
see a working server before too long. As for the others, I've always
used ATI and haven't found anything to better them yet. They may not be
the 100% fastest but they sure are the most reliable cards. Also, the
ATI TV card may have some support soon if ATI release some details[. The
Rage Fury has an AMC socket on the board, which is used for this.
Basically GO ATI!!!!!!
Chris Smith
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From: Chain-Wu Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xerox Docuprint P8
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:05:34 GMT
Hi,
I bought a Xerox docuprint P8 lately, it works under win95 but seems linux
cannot detect it, did I buy the wrong printer?
-Chain-Wu
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From: "Apostolos P. Tsompanopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diamond viper 550 & XFree
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:24:13 +0300
Hello all,
does anybody know how can i see more than 320*200 video resolution
on a RedHat 5.2 with my diamond viper 550 AGP?
I've found that it must be declared as SVGA server, but so far i can't
see more than 320*200.
Do i have to search for XFree 3.3.3 ?
Thanks in advance,
Apostolos
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From: Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Compaq Armada 6500
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:56:34 GMT
The topic basically says it: I have a Compaq Armada 6500
and would like to install Linux on it. I tried Red Hat 5.2
over FTP, but there is no driver for my Ethernet card (a
Xircom CreditCard), so I can't connect it to the Linux
router this way. Of course, I could get a parallel cable
and try to connect via PLIP. But first, I would like to
know: Is it worth it? Has anyone ever tried to run Linux
on an Armada? How'd it work out? Is there a way to use the
Xircom card later on, after Linux is installed?
I would appreciate it if you could help me with those
questions.
TIA,
Juergen
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From: Donald M Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Serial Problems with CPU upgrade
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:39:48 +0100
Well, it just gets stranger!
I finally upgraded my CPU from a Cyrix P166 to a Cyrix M2-300
and my modem has become chronically slow under Linux, and
the mouse is knackered under Windoze. I never use the modem
under windows.
Actually I never really _use_ windows, which is why I thought
the group might be able to help.
Some details:-
Cyrix P166+, 66Mhz Bus, 133Mhz internal, 3.3V core:-
Modem works OK at 56K. Mouse is OK under X
and Windoze 3.1.
Cyrix M2-300, 66Mhz Bus, 233Mhz internal, 2.9V core:-
Modem just doesn't want to work. Takes several
attempts to dial-out, if that succeeds it struggles
to log on, and if you get that far then a data rate
of about 400bytes/s is top whack! What's more
the mouse will not work under Windoze 3.1, but
is just fine under X.
And this behaviour is dead repeatable, because I've been
swapping chips back and forth for the past day.
For reference:-
/dev/cua0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
/dev/cua1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
/dev/cua2, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 3, Flags: spd_vhi
/dev/cua3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3
/dev/modem -> /dev/cua2
/dev/mouse -> /dev/cua0
/dev/cua1 is not used.
Please help. Its driving me bonkers!
Donald.
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Automating the works with xawtv and STB TV card
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:42:45 +0200
Igor Raznatovic wrote:
> Ok...this is it: I'm starting the xawtv like this...I
>
> 1. I open terminal, type in ./update
> 2. I cd to /usr/local/bin and type ./xawtv and thats it.
>
> Now that doesn't look like a normal way to start xawtv does it?
To do 1. you will have to be root. It is also only necessary to do this
once unless you would want to unload the modules for some reason. If you
don't want to do it manually after a reboot you could put it on a line
in your init scripts. On Slackware a good file to place the call to
update would be /etc/rc.d/rc.local , if you have another distribution I
would guess that there is some file with a resembling name which is
supposed for your own settings.
You can be a normal user to do 2. (You are not running your evereday
work as root, are you?) /usr/local/bin should be in your path, then you
won't have to cd to that directory. If you are running bash you could
edit your ~/.profile or /etc/profile to add /usr/local/bin to your path,
something like this:
PATH="/usr/local/bin:$PATH:/usr/X11/bin:/usr/andrew/bin:$OPENWINHOME/bin:/usr/games:."
If your are running tcsh you could edit your ~/.login or /etc/csh.login
with a line looking something like this:
setenv PATH /usr/local/bin:$PATH
After this you will only have to type xawtv.
regards Henrik
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From: Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pnpdump doesn't see PnP modem??
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:55:01 +0200
Frank Filthaut wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just got this USR external 56K PnP "message" modem. If I
> run pnp_serial on the port I can see it properly, but pnpdump
> doesn't show any information for this port? I would appreciate
> it if anyone could tell me why..
>
> Regards
> Frank
pnpdump is a utility for isapnp. isapnp is a utility for the isa bus.
Did you ever see an external modem connected to the isa bus? ;-)
Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar)
Subject: Re: SCSI CD-RW Drives
Date: 26 Apr 1999 18:12:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Hello. I want to buy the fastest/best quality CD-RW drive that I can.
: Looks like that would be Yamaha 4x4x16. (Does anyone else have
: a better drive in mind?)
:
: PC Magazine site suggests that SCSI drives are the way
: to go to prevent buffer underruns (I don't remember if
: that's the term.)
:
: My question is, does Linux support SCSI CD-RW drives?
: If so, how good is the support? I am running SuSE Linux 5.2
I use a Yamaha CRW4260t SCSI burner under Linux. It works well,
and is supported about as well as a burner can be in Linux. So,
I assume that the 4x4x16 would work, as well.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: Thorsten Niebuhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISA-Modem on irq5
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:06:42 +0100
Hi !
Is there any other way to get my modem (supraexpress 56i), an internal
isa-modem to work? It is set up to com3/irq5 and works well under OS/2
WinNT, but I cannot get it working under Linux (RedHat 5.1 /Kernel
2.0.xxx).
The port and irq is setup properly by setserial in rc.serial and the
io-port is shown correctly in /proc- filesystem. /dev/cua? and
/dev/ttyS? are read and writeable to other users.
The only response i got is "sorry, there is no response from modem" even
when testing modem-orders.
maybe with isapnp ??
thanx in advance
thotti (Thorsten Niebuhr)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium MGA-G200 AGP under Redhat 5.2?
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:05:22 GMT
Kieran & Hobbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, so I need to update XFree86 to 3.3.3.1
> Where is the file(s) for this and how do I actually install them. I'm
> running a dual system Win95/Redhat. I found one site that said I need all
> these files (about 30-40 of them) and another site that listed one. Bit
> confusing.
1) Check which XFree packages you already have installed:
rpm -q -a | grep XFree
On my machine (also RH5.2), this returns:
XFree86-libs-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-3DLabs-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-VGA16-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3.1-1.1
XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-1.1
On your box, obviously, the version numbers are most likely 3.3.2.3.
2) ftp updates.redhat.com (or one of the mirrors listed at
http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html), and download the 3.3.3.1 packages.
3) From the directory to which you downloaded the files,
rpm -Uvh --force XFree*
This must be done as root.
4) Also as root, run XF86Setup, pick the SVGA server, and specify the amount
of RAM the board has (see http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.3.1/MGA.html for more
info).
5) startx, and all should be well.
Luck.
--
====================================
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Programmers are gods
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:46:32 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.hardware didst Craig Kelley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
: Andrew Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> Another thing is that I absolutely HATE long functions. Have you ever
:> tried to match the 'end' of an 'if' statement when it is some 200
:> lines above and beyond your editor window's viewport?
: Gotta love emacs' magic brace matching.
You can do the same thing in joe. ^G.
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