Linux-Hardware Digest #103, Volume #14 Sat, 30 Dec 00 07:13:02 EST
Contents:
Monitoring temperature inside an old P-150 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
can't get adaptec 2100S and new linux kernel to work ("Q")
Re: Creative Labs PCI 128 (Dances With Crows)
Re: IBM PC Server 330 (Dances With Crows)
Re: 30 Gig or 40 Gig hd. Quantum, Maxtor or Western Digital? (Andrew Walker)
Printer problems ("Ben Hearsum")
Re: crossover cable (William Murphy)
Help with SBLive on slackware7.1 (Mike S)
SBLive and Slackware 7.1 (Mike S)
Re: guillemot maxi studio isis soundcard and linux (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Mandrake 7.0 - Getting Startx Working again for the \root account ("Dan White")
Re: installing a net printer ("Dan White")
Re: please help me get my modem working ("Jason Byrne")
Re: most robust 100Mbit NIC? ("Roy Batty")
Re: snd-card-sb16.o for SUSE Linux 7.0 with a kernel recompiled to 2.2.18 ("Roy
Batty")
Re: most robust 100Mbit NIC? ("Brian McKerr")
HP Colorado 14GB Streamer (Helge Stahlmann)
Re: Changing from PCI to AGP Q. (Dan Armak)
Re: crossover cable ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Begs the question... (was Re: Strange Reporting of Free Space on the HDD) (Julie
Brandon)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Monitoring temperature inside an old P-150
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:26:51 GMT
Hi all,
I have a 5 year old P-150. Which I am now using as a 24/7 linux
server. It has 2 CDROMs, Floppy drive, 1 SCSI harddrive, 1 IDE
harddrive, 1 AIWA Travan tape drive. Basically I have not empty drive
bays.
I am concerned about heating as I am running this machine 24/7. Is
there some hardware/software combination I can use to measure the
average temperature inside my PC and preferebly even email me when the
temperature rise is near dangerous levels.
I assume having an old motherboard, I wont be able to lm_sensors??
I probably need something that would fit in a slot that could alert me
about the average temperature inside my linux box.
Thanks all in advance.
zulfiqar
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From: "Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't get adaptec 2100S and new linux kernel to work
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 05:47:48 GMT
Hi I'm trying to get an adaptec 2100s to work on 2.2.18 with no luck. I've
also tried it on 2.2.17 and 2.2.16. The only thing I can get it to work on
is 2.2.16-22 or whatever comes with RH 7.0. I got a driver disk with some
object files from adaptec, and they work fine with the red hat customized
kernel, but I can't get anything to work with the real unmodified kernel.
I've tried using the modules and making initrds on all 3 kernels, as well as
the patches that come with the CD (and then compiling in all the i2o stuff,
which I think is what I am supposed to do).
I've also tried the new 2.2.18 kernel with the i2o stuff and no mods. Can
anyone help? I am running out of ideas and I don't want to have to use the
modified kernel for redhat. I have some other stuff I usually compile into
the kernels and it never works right with the red hat kernels, so I always
use the kernels from ftp.kernel.org. Has anyone gotten this to work?
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Creative Labs PCI 128
Date: 30 Dec 2000 06:05:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 04:46:58 GMT, William Murphy staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>On 29 Dec 2000 03:52:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
>wrote:
>>Creative PCIxx cards are usually repackaged Ensoniq cards under the
>>hood. It's very likely that the card is an ES1371 or ES1370, both of
>>which work under Linux just fine.
>
>The Creative PCI128 card I have has a ES1373 chip and is resisting my
>efforts. I have been trapped into dual booting and the card also
>resists windowsME.
>If you have some tips on getting this card to perform, please share.
So the chip on the card says "ES1373", or "cat /proc/pci" says "ES1373"?
1.5 years ago, I had a system with an ES1373 embedded in the
motherboard, which showed up as an ES1371 and Just Worked. What does
"cat /proc/pci" show for your sound card, and which kernel version are
you running? IIRC there were some problems with brand-new ES1371
revisions ( > rev6 ) that were at least partially fixed in the 2.2.17
and higher kernel series.
As for the LoseME problems, for non-free OSes, I provide non-free
support :-/.
--
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: IBM PC Server 330
Date: 30 Dec 2000 06:05:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 02:10:27 GMT, William D. Atkinson staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
> I have an IBM PC Server 330 with an on-board AIC-7880 SCSI
>controller, and an IBM ServeRaid card driving six hard drives. As the
>system starts up, it warns that the card does not support SCSI
>CD-ROMS.
Parse error: Vague reference. Is "the card" the AIC-7880 or the
ServeRaid? If the ServeRiad card won't support SCSI CD-ROMs, then it's
no wonder that nothing will work. If the 7880 won't, then there could
be other problems.
> When trying to install RedHat 6.2, the system finds and
>installs a drive for the on-board AIX-7880 controller, but not the
>ServerRaid card where the hard drives and CD-ROM are hooked up, thus I
>cannot finish the install, because linux can't find a CD-ROM
>driver.....
> If I connect the CD-ROM to the on-board AIC-7880 controller,
>the system will not even boot, as it says there is a problem with how
>the drives are configured.
Termination problem? 70% of all SCSI problems are termination problems.
The other 70% are cabling problems, and the other 70% are due to
goat-sacrifice problems. So what's hooked to the 7880 besides the
CD-ROM? The card itself should probably be set to auto-terminate, while
the drive needs to be terminated if it's the last device in the chain
with nothing else between the card and the drive terminated. You know
the drill, I'm sure.
I don't know precisely when ServerRaid support was added to the kernel,
but the module for the card should be called "ips.o" if I'm reading the
documentation correctly.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Andrew Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 30 Gig or 40 Gig hd. Quantum, Maxtor or Western Digital?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 17:11:25 +1100
Kelvin Leung wrote:
> Get an IBM, it's fast/quiet and reliable! I have three IBM and one
> quantum, two seagate running on Linux , Win.
>
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:56:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone, I'm looking to buy a new harddrive 7200 rpm 30 to 40
> >gigs. I was wondering if there was a difference in performance or
> >reliability between a Western Digital, Maxtor or Quantum Fireball. My
> >local shop offers them at more or less the same price, so not much
> >difference to me. Any thoughs?
> >
> >Thanks, happy hollidays,
> >Strachie
Ditto. My 2 IBM's (4GB & 30GB) have both been impressive drives (quiet &
fast). My 3GB Quantum and 1GB Seagate drives have been nowhere near as
good, although very reliable. BTW, I have an ancient Western Digital
340MB hard-drive still going strong!
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From: "Ben Hearsum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printer problems
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 07:03:07 GMT
My HP Deskjet 712c doesn't seem to work correctly.
I have tried different installing it as all of the HP drivers, a text-only
printer, and a postscript printer. Still nothing. It detects my printer
when i try to install it but still nothing. I'm not sure what the problem
is at all. Help....?
Thanx in advance
Ben Hearsum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Murphy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: crossover cable
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 07:16:13 GMT
Are you sure the cable is a crossover, my external DSL modem uses a
regular one.
William
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From: Mike S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with SBLive on slackware7.1
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 07:30:06 -0000
I'm running slackware 7.1 on a machine with 128megs ram that dual boots to
linux and win2k. I'm having rouble getting my sound to work properly. I
have an SB Live value. I downloaded the module source from
opensource.creative.com, the emu10k1 one. make clean && make dep && make
&& make install, then modprobe emu10k1. Everything worked fine, no errors
or anything, but when I try and play music I get an error that /dev/dsp
cannot be opened. I get the same message when running as root also, so
its not a permissions issue. I don't hear other system sounds either, and
when I try and get sound out of enlightenment it tells me there was an
error with Esound (esd). I have also tried installing the binary modules
that came with the driver tarball and those didnt work either. I am
thoroughly confused, any help anyone can provide would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks
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From: Mike S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SBLive and Slackware 7.1
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 07:30:07 -0000
I just got seriously into linux just a few days ago, when I turned my
personal machine into a dual booting win2k and slackware 7.1 machine. I
managed to get most everything working great, except for my sound card. I
have a SBLive Value. I got the 2.2.18 kernel in the hopes that it would
help, and I found that it had support for the SBLive. I compiled the
kernel with that, and restarted with the new kernel. Everything seemed to
be fine but still no sound working. So I got the emu10k1 module from
opensource.creative.com and installed it with no problems. Everything
worked great and when I rebooted I saw the kernel recognizing the card,
its got IRQ 10. My speakers even made the same hiss and pop that they do
when windows loads up the sound card drivers. And I got into GNOME and
tried to play a song again, and GNOME's standard sound player, I forgot
the name, gave me an error, "couldnt open /dev/dsp". I'm not sure what is
going on exactly, I tried logging in as root, but it wasnt a permission
problem, I got the exact same error. This really has me puzzled, and I'd
appreciate any help anyone can give me. Thanks
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: guillemot maxi studio isis soundcard and linux
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:28:49 -0500
Marty wrote:
>
> Hi!
> does anybody have the maxi studio isis Soundcard by guillemot and knows if
> there are
> any drivers so it'll work under linux?
Sorry, I don't know. I grepped the source and doc for Linux 2.2.15 for
'guillemot' and 'maxi' and came up empty. Your soundcard _may_ be
supported under another name. Read the Sound-HOWTO and the
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/* docs to see what's up. (If you
don't have the Sound-HOWTO, you can get it from the Linux Documentation
Project at http://www.linuxdoc.org/ )
> if not WHO CAN MAKE ONE!!!
The most likely source would be Guillemot; have you contacted them yet?
(If not, why not?)
> thanx there!
>
> Marty
--
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Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.0 - Getting Startx Working again for the \root account
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 07:54:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Harry Broom"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Startx no longer runs (except for a brief bit where the mono splash
> screen comes up for about a tenth of a second and dumps me back at the
> prompt. I can see the message "/root/ .Xclients no such file or
> directory". Now I guess the command did work and totally clobbered the
> ability to run startx under the root account - can anyone help me to get
> this account to run startx again please? You'll have to spell things out
> for me please as I've only been looking at Linux in my spare time for
> the past couple of weeks.
Try:
switchdesk-helper kde
from the console, as root.
- Dan White
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From: "Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing a net printer
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 07:56:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "cuma"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks, my printer runs on the machine to which it is installed at the
> parallel port.
>
> But how can I print via the other machine?
>
> In the printtool I defined the name of the other machine and the name of
> the queue. How do I have to configure hosts.lpd.
> -my domain is survival
> -the machine with the printer : klein
> -the machine wiithout the printer is : gross
>
> Thanx in advance for any help
>
Try looking in /var/log/lp* for error messages. Try adding klein to the
/etc/hosts of gross.
- Dan White
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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help me get my modem working
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 01:11:48 -0800
> after this... if you run 'wvdial /etc/wvdial.conf' - the program scans all
> of your serial ports, tries to find your modem, and sets up the
appropriate
> settings, etc...
oops... it's 'wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf' to run through the scanning,
detection, etc...
btw... I didn't check if you actually have a 'real' modem (if the modem you
mentioned is a 'winmodem' - you might want to check out
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/ )
I was just trying to sell 'wvdial' as a better alternative than the older
'minicom' approach for a ppp connection.
- Jason
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From: "Roy Batty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: most robust 100Mbit NIC?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:15:48 +0100
We have made very good experience with the Intel EtherExpress Pro
in both performance and stability. We are using it in multiple heavily
loaded Samba file servers.
- Roy
"Paul Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:e%036.23335$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> it's been a while since i've looked at NICs, or the linux enet
> drivers, very carefully.
>
> i want to switch to 100Mbit around my house (2 servers, 3 or 4
> diskless clients), and i have wiring that uses cat-5 parts, and was
> installed by yours truly (i.e. i tried to be careful, but this isn't
> my day job).
>
> is there a NIC/driver combo i should look at that's more tolerant of
> suspect wiring?
>
> (and given that i'd be replacing all of my NICs at once, cost is a
> minor, but not overwhelming, consideration as well.)
>
> paul
> =---------------------
> paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Roy Batty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: snd-card-sb16.o for SUSE Linux 7.0 with a kernel recompiled to 2.2.18
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:23:27 +0100
Install the source-rpm
km_alsa.rpm
from the zq-series on your Suse70 installation CDs.
Then cd to
/usr/src/kernel-modules/alsa
(something like this, I don't remember the exact name) and do
./configure
make
make install
- Roy
"cash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:DBQ26.2479$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I am trying to recompile the 2.2.16 kernel to 2.2.18 within the SUSE 7.0
> Distro. I have been suscessful in getting everything to work so far. But I
> am unable to run either ALSA or OSS to get the soundcard working.
>
> After attempting to run ALSA, the alsaconf program complains that
> snd-card-sb16.o cannot be found. Lo and behold, this object file didn't
get
> compiled within my modules for 2.2.18, although they were for 2.2.16.
Which
> setting do I need to make within the .config file the kernel to get all
the
> snd-card*.o files created? Thanks. You can respond to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] after removing the underscores. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
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From: "Brian McKerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: most robust 100Mbit NIC?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:40:02 +1000
If cost is not an issue then you should look at Intel NICs based on the
82550 chipset, imho they are second to none, I recently upgraded all our
production linux boxes to these . They have some really cool features, that
I'm not usre can be found on any other cards, like adaptive load balancing &
link aggregation.
Cheers,
Brian.
"Paul Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:e%036.23335$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> it's been a while since i've looked at NICs, or the linux enet
> drivers, very carefully.
>
> i want to switch to 100Mbit around my house (2 servers, 3 or 4
> diskless clients), and i have wiring that uses cat-5 parts, and was
> installed by yours truly (i.e. i tried to be careful, but this isn't
> my day job).
>
> is there a NIC/driver combo i should look at that's more tolerant of
> suspect wiring?
>
> (and given that i'd be replacing all of my NICs at once, cost is a
> minor, but not overwhelming, consideration as well.)
>
> paul
> =---------------------
> paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Helge Stahlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP Colorado 14GB Streamer
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:52:38 +0100
Hello,
I would like to use my HP Colorado 14GB IDE streamer under Linux (RedHat
or Debian).
Can this be realized with the SCSI-Emulation for IDE devices? Are there
any restrictions or performance problems to be expected?
Thanks in advance,
Helge
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From: Dan Armak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Changing from PCI to AGP Q.
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 16:04:07 +0200
Linux should support almost any card in text mode (for the console), the
problem is X11 support. I suggest you install BOTH cards at the same time.
Boot linux, it should use the old card. Then make sure X11 supports the new
one. If you hand-edit the XF86Config file you can add support for more than
one card.
Finally, when you are sure everything is working, remove the old card.
Just remember that you need the to compile the agpgart kernel module for
AGP support. I'm not sure how it is configured in 6.4. It may be that
because there was no AGP card in the system when you installed your system,
yast did not install the agpgart module. Check that agpgart.o exists under
/lib/modules/(kernel version)/video. If it doesn't recompile your kernel to
support it (and take the opportunity to upgrade your kernel and base system
to the suse 7.0 versions if you haven't done so already).
Finally, if your new card is a really new one and configureing it for X11
is difficult, first install xfree86-4.0 and then setup your new card,
because the drivers are often different between xfree86 3.6 and 4.0 and so
you could end up doing everything twice.
A last advice, don't use the kde 2.1-beta1 RPMs, fall back on 2.0.1 ro wait
for 2.1-final.
Good luck, you're going to need it!
HTH,
Dan Armak
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: crossover cable
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:49:48 GMT
There are 2 ways to verify a cross-over cable.
(1) Hold the RJ45 plug with gold fingers facing you. Record the colour
of pin 1,2,3 and 6 (for ethernet). Pin 1 is on your left hand side of
the RJ45 plug. Check the colour code at the other end of the RJ45
plug. For cross-over, pin 1 and 2 at one end should go to pin 3 and 6
on the other. Pin 3 and 6 should go to pin 1 and 2 of the other end.
(2) 10BaseT/100BaseTX ethernet specifications require link signals to
check link connectivity. Look at link lights at BOTH end of the NIC
cards. Make sure both are ON. One ON and one OFF or both OFF mean
cable problem.
That's my 2cents.
Roger
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:31:40 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] staggered
> into the Black Sun and said:
> >I'm trying to connect the two computers I have at home with a
crossover
> >cable. I have cable modem (att@home). One computer has two NICs (an
SMP
> >EtherPower and a linksys card) and the other has a 3com card. If I
plug
> >the cable modem in any of these 3 cards separately, I can connect to
the
> >outer world without a hitch (after configuring the interface and the
> >routing table, of course). The only thing that I can't do is have the
> >computers talk to each other. I noticed that when I plug the cable
modem
> >into any of the card, the leds light up, but when I plug the
crossover
> >cable, neither end lights up, so I suspect it is a hardware problem.
Is
> >this normal? Do I change the cable? Do I get a hub?
>
> If you have a good cable of the right type connecting 2 good NICs that
> are powered-on, you should see a link light. First, make sure that
it's
> not the cable. (If you made the cable yourself, after drinking 4
beers,
> it's unlikely the cable will work. Personal experience.) Borrow a
> known good crossover cable and see if that solves your problem? You
> don't need a hub unless you want to expand your little network beyond
2
> machines at some point in the future, so if you do, get a hub or
switch
> now.
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us
to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin'
Ctrl-Alt
> http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
> -----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie Brandon)
Subject: Begs the question... (was Re: Strange Reporting of Free Space on the HDD)
Date: 30 Dec 2000 11:53:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[followups set to poster -- I'll personally not entertain this particular
strain of this thread any further here publicly]
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 03:09:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>You mean to say "suggests" or "implies the question."
>
>Sorry, this is a peeve of mine.
[boooOOOOOOOOOOOOM]
Tough - you've trod on mine! *8-)
I'm all for traditions & pedantry where it serves a useful purpose, but not
otherwise.
As you've so rightly stated, many people use that to mean exactly what I've
used it to mean...
...so there was no ambiguity? The meaning was quite clear to you? In a
semi literal sense, without consideration to archiac roots of the phrase
which are irrelevant today, it makes perfect sense I thought?
Correct my spelling, correct my grammar, correct my syntax -- really, please
do (via e-mail) as I'll happily listen as I do care and do make an effort
and do like to do by best (even though I do, incidentally, find it extremely
difficult indeed.) However, if you publicly post such pointless pedantry,
expect to watch me explode before your eyes!!!
Surely given the lack of an official authority defining the language, it
must therefore logically be defined as the language that people actually use
and understand. Hence a pleasant, evolving, non-static language.
If all this causes you such annoyance, feel free to give up English and
stick to "official" French.
Bah humbug! *8-P
Ta-ra,
Julie
PS By your logic... you surely cannot *actually* be sorry at all? I
understood that feeling sorry implies a sense regret? If you knew you would
regret the effects of your posting when you wrote "sorry" you were almost
certainly at liberty to choose not to post it! See what I mean?
--
Julie Brandon, Derby, UK
<URL:http://www.computergeeks.co.uk/>
+++ See homepage for details of my present E-Bay auctions +++
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