Linux-Hardware Digest #188, Volume #10 Sat, 8 May 99 17:13:40 EDT
Contents:
Re: On-board sound chip? (Norberto Di Carlo)
Creative 3D Blaster Banshee ("Blitz")
Re: Jaz 2gb external scsi and Linux (Ralph Alvy)
Newbie - Help - RH 6.0 doesn't recognize cable modem (Les Clark)
Quantum Atlas III U2 SCSI Mac external crashed. Need Help ("e roberts")
System Building Questions ("roekel")
i810 ("Fumio Tanaka")
Re: System Recommendations ("RiddlerMarc")
Re: Newbie: Can't address SCSI DAT ("Tony")
Re: ??? HP DESKJET 720C and linux ??? (Norberto Di Carlo)
Re: linux newbie: sound card problems (Norberto Di Carlo)
TELES 16.3c PnP ("Marcel Henselin")
Re: Building a Linux System? (Chris Sequeira)
Re: Redhat 6.0... the good, the bad, and the ugly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
TEAC SCSI cdrom + cdparanoia (Kai-Martin Haendel)
Re: voodoo 3 under linux (Bruce Stephens)
Re: Half inch HP tape on Power Mac running Linux: reading errors.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (brian moore)
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From: Norberto Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: On-board sound chip?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:55:30 -0300
David, what's up?
Listen I've got an CMI8330 chip (onboard) that won't work!
I tried the sndconfig program and it throws m e errors. It says modprog (or
something like that) error.
Did you have any experience with that?
Norberto
David Murray wrote:
> The trouble is that it is probably plug&play. In this case even with a
> compatible module it needs to be initialized. I don't know how to do this
> under SuSe. It is easy with the "sndconfig" program under RedHat.. the
> other option, if you are a rocket-scientist, is to try using the pnp
> package for Linux.. pnptools or whatever it is called.. I went braindead
> after a few days of trying to get a PnP soundcard to work under slackware
> and installed RedHat instead..
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article <7fk01r$agd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > I've got an on-board sound chip that is supposed to be 100% Sound Blaster
> > compatible (and under DOS it appears to be). Nonetheless, I can't get it
> to
> > work under LINUX even when I compile sound as a module instead of
> compiling
> > it directly into the kernel. I'm running SuSE 6.1 with kernel 2.2.6. If
> > anyone knows some tricks to get this to work with an on-board chip,
> please
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From: "Blitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Creative 3D Blaster Banshee
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:52:49 -0400
If anyone can please send me suggestions on configuring my 3D Blaster
Banshee video card with x-windows. Im running the standard 5.2 Distribution.
Im new at this so please dont flame me to much. Ive tried xf86config, &
XF86Setup with no luck.
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From: Ralph Alvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jaz 2gb external scsi and Linux
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 18:58:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hunter Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, I think that the device on sda should be your Jaz drive, if you
don't
> have a scsi hard drive. The Parport zip drive should be connected to par0, or
lp0
> or lp1, depending on your kernel version. You should double check that
/dev/sda4
> is your zip and not your jaz.
>
> Ralph Alvy wrote:
>
> > I have an Adaptec 2940UW installed, with a Jaz 2gb external scsi device
> > attached. I also have a parallel port Zip drive attached to the para port.
> > Using a RedHat 5.2 Linux.
> >
> > My system doesn't seem to notice the Jaz drive under Linux, though it works
> > fine under NT, OS/2 and DR-DOS. My Zip drive works fine as /dev/sda4. fdisk
> > finds nothing to open when I try it with /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, etc.
> >
> > Here's my conf.modules file contents:
> >
> > alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
> > alias sd sd
> >
> > I recently put the sd module in there, thinking that would help things, but
it
> > didn't. I'm very very new to Linux, so probably don't really understand
> > something very fundamental here. I'm also just as new to scsi devices,
having
> > only used IDE devices until a couple weeks ago.
> >
> > --
> > Ralph
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>
Thanks for replying, Hunter. No, /dev/sda4 is definitely my Zip 100 paraport
drive. Has been for a while now. And after installing my 2940UW scsi host
adaptor and external scsi Jaz 2gb drive, /dev/sda4 is *still* my Zip 100
drive.
--
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From: Les Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie - Help - RH 6.0 doesn't recognize cable modem
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 07:33:10 -0400
Newbie here. I installed RH 6.0 on My Dell Dimension PIII XPS T500
w/128 mbyte RAM and 10 Gig HD dedicated to Linux . I have a Hybrid
cable modem configured for DHCP and service at 300 kbps. The modem runs
perfectly under Win 98. During the install my 3 Com network card was
detected by the installation. However when RH 6.0 started for the first
time after installation it continued to recognize the 3 Com card but
failed on DHCP.
Can anyone help me to get the cable modem working under RH 6.0. BTW,
the cable modem ran smoothly under RH 5.2. Thanks for any help.
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From: "e roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Quantum Atlas III U2 SCSI Mac external crashed. Need Help
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 15:15:21 -0400
I need to know if there is a way to get a hard drive with a bad bearing to
function long enough to pull off the data before sending it in for repair.
My 4 month old 18g APS hard drive [Quantum Atlas III U2 SCSI in a Mac
external case] just crashed.
I was in the process of backing it up when it happened.
When the drive first arrived, i called APS and complained about excessive
noise.
I let them listen to the drive over the phone. They told me it was normal.
They offered to replace the drive, but said "all large drives are noisy"
"Quantums are the quietest" and the replacement drive "might be noisier".
I assumed they knew what they were talking about. Therefore, in a misguided
effort to be a good guy, I decided not to waste their money on an
unnecessary swap.
This past week I again called APS to complain about the noise.
Two different techs told me it was "normal"
I called Quantum for technical information about the drive. Before I could
ask any questions, the Quantum tech asked, "is that your drive" referring to
the background noise he heard over the phone [from 30 feet away]. I said
yes. He said, "you have a bad drive bearing. Your drive could fail at any
time. Back up your data as soon as possible and send the drive in for
repair."
When I told the Quantum tech that APS said the noise was normal, he couldn't
believe it.
Before i got off the phone with the Quantum tech, the drive died.
Now, if I let it rest, it will spin up. It sounds like a jet engine or the
scream of a dull buzzsaw trying to cut a 2x4. It doesn't mount, it keeps
the computer from booting and after a few minutes it shuts down [due, i
suspect, to overheating].
APS will "repair" but not replace the drive, but I will lose all my data.
["We don't do data recovery"] I can't afford $1,000 for a data recovery
service.
Here's my question -
Assuming i can obtain another 18g drive, is there a way to get the drive
with the bad bearings to spin up long enough to pull off the data?
I am also concerned that the drive I send in for repair will be swapped with
an inferior replacement.
I ordered, purchased and received [according to the labels on the box] an
Ultra2/Wide Ultra SCSI 68pin drive. Quantum tells me that the only 18.2g 68
pin drive they ever made was the Ultra 2 Atlas III
APS TS tells me it IS not and CAN not be an Ultra2 drive because an Ultra2
drive will not work without a special card [which I don't have]. They tell
me I must have a plain old "wide" drive and that is what I can expect my
"repaired" drive to be. I have asked them to identify the model number of
the drive they claim I bought, but they have been unable to do so.
My dealings with APS have been schizophrenic. All of their personnel have
been friendly. When I ran into trouble they offered to refund my money.
The problems have come when I have tried to get reliable technical
information.
No one identified the noise as a serious issue or warned me of even the
possibility of impending drive failure [including on the day it died]. If
they had, I would have made special arrangements to back up and return the
drive.
All questions I had regarding problems with their drives were met with
critiques and suggestions regarding my SCSI chain. No two techs seemed to
agree on the right advice. All of the suggestions [except for one I could
not check out] did not work and in fact made my problems worse.
The last advice I got actually seems to have accelerated the death of my
hard drive
There is more to this story but this note is long enough.
Your comments and advice are wanted and welcome.
[including other places/groups to get the help I need]
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From: "roekel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System Building Questions
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:33:50 -0500
Hi, I'm buying a new system to use at college. A few questions:
1- I want to run Win98 and Linux. The shop won't install Linux for me,
but has offered to partition the drive for me. Would I be better off
letting the Linux install do the partitioning?
2- Is the Canon BJC-250 reliable? Will it work at all under Linux?
3- The university has said that they only support ethernet on Windows
sytems. Does this mean that Linux ethernet is different that Win ethernet,
or that they only offer help to Windows users?
Thanks,
Aaron
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From: "Fumio Tanaka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i810
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 19:55:21 +0900
Hi all
I am going to buy i810.
Dose ayeone know if the SVGA server for XFree3.3.X works on
Video Chips on i810?
Thanks
Fumio Tanaka
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From: "RiddlerMarc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System Recommendations
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 11:52:09 GMT
My Diamond Viper V550 TNT card works really well on my Super 7 mobo... had a
couple of initial teething probs, but when I installed newer drivers
everything was cool. I'm even currently o/cking both the chip and the memory
by about 15% on the card, but things are still completely stable. And I'm
overclocking my cpu (K6-2 350 o/cked to 400) and things are fine.
Don't worry about the power side of things, but in order to get full
utility, you'll need Xfree86 3.3.3.1... my TNT card won't play ball without
it :(
Regards,
RiddlerMarc
Thomas Kochak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It's probally not a good idea to use a RIVA TNT board with a Super 7 mb. I
> have heard that RIVA TNT boards need more power than super 7 motherboards
> can handle. If your going to get a TNT board, get a motherboard with a BX
> chipset
>
> Matt Tyler wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> > This might not be the best group to post this to but here goes. I
> > am seeking recommendations/advice about a new computer system, on which
> > I will run Linux and (ahh) Win98(to play a few games not yet available
> > on Linux). I am trying to choose between an AMD K6-2(400)/Super 7
> > solution and a Celeron 300a/Slot 1 solution. I was also thinking about
> > a RIVA TNT card for video. I really would like to hear opinions about
> > the best retailers around the net (cheapest, best value). I would like
> > to say thanks in advance to everyone that responds. Any other
> > suggestions/comments are welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
> >
> > Matt Tyler
>
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From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: Can't address SCSI DAT
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 00:46:55 +1000
Linux will detect it as ST0
you should see it detect the drive on boot
Tony
Martin Button wrote in message ...
>I'm a bit of a newbie with devices.
>
>I have just purchased a Dell PowerEdge 1300 server which has 2 SCSI
>controllers, each with a SCSI host attached to them and installed RedHat
>Linux 5.2.
>
>
>SCSI Setup:
>
>SCSI 0: Adaptec AHA-2940 [ID 7]
>Which has attached a Seagate Python 04106 Ultra2-SE DAT Drive [ID 6]
>
>SCSI 1: Adaptec 7890 [ID 7]
>Which has attached a IBM DDRS 39130 Hard Disk [ID0]
>
>
>The Problem:
>
>Linux tells me during boot up about both the SCSI controllers and devices
>attached, which sounds like good news. However, I don't know how I would
>address the DAT drive. I know the Hard disk is address as /dev/sda1. What
>would the DAT drive be?
>
>Also, I have loaded the Aic7xxx Module in the kernel which it found during
>the installation. Is there any futher configuration I need to do?
>
>Please reply to my Email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Regards,
>
>Martin Button.
>KC3
>
>
>
>
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From: Norberto Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ??? HP DESKJET 720C and linux ???
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:50:08 -0300
Look, I've called HP and asked them personally. They said that the
printer works only under win platforms (Shit I got one and don't know
what to do with it!)
Hope you find another answer! If you do ( or already did), please don't
hesitate to inform me!
Norberto
Philippe Vandekerckhove escribi�:
> Is there any support for the HP Deskjet 720C ??
> All info is welcome, tnx
>
> Phil
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From: Norberto Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux newbie: sound card problems
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:53:24 -0300
Hey maybe your kernel isn't compiled right. I tried it a few days ago and
there was an option for your sound card. Maybe you don't have "on". I'm a
newbie but hope it can help. If you need anything tell me maybe I can
help!
Norberto
Jay Hastings escribi�:
> Hi,
>
> I have an Ensoniq Soundscape sound card and I can't seem to get it to
> work...
>
> Any ideas would be helpful!
>
> The specific error I get when configuring with "sndconfig":
>
> ------------------------------------------
> The following error occurred running
> modprobe program:
>
> /lib/modules/preferred/misc/sscape.o:
> init_module: Device or resource busy
> sound: Device or resource busy
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> "sndconfig" can detect my card a Ensoniq Soundscape, but
> the above failure message occurs when it trys to test it.
>
> Address specifics:
>
> Address resources: x0330-x033F
> IRQ 5, 9
> DMA 1,3
>
> In Win95 it uses the following:
> MIDI, 330, IRQ 9
> WAVE, 338, IRQ 5, DMA 1
>
> Thanks,
> Jay.
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From: "Marcel Henselin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TELES 16.3c PnP
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 14:26:55 +0200
Hi Leute,
ich habe diese verdammte Karte in meinem Rechner und komme unter Linux nicht
damit zurecht.
nach dem im Kernel ISDN als Modul aktiviert ist und mit YAST die Karte
ERFOLGREICH aktiviert ist, versuche ich mit telnet 192.168.0.1 die
Verbindung zu aktivieren und ???
in der /var/log/messages erscheint
dial #######
dial #######
...
aber es kommt keine Verbindung zustande !?!?!
KANN MIR JEMAND HELFEN ???
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From: Chris Sequeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Building a Linux System?
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:57:07 GMT
> Video card: You want a 3dfx card? Go with a Voodoo3, 2000 or 3000. You can
> get a 3500 if you really want, but it is a bit pricey. Don't, what ever you
> do, get a 1000.
Thank you for all of your advice. But I have a question; are the
Voodoo3, 2000, and 3000 supported under Linux yet? Or is there a
generic driver for all of them? I went to the 3DFX website yesterday
and saw drivers for Voodoo2 only.
--
>From Chris Sequeira: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0... the good, the bad, and the ugly
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 13:47:22 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Xin Feng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regarding the above, I have had no problems with DHCP and my cable modem
> (Time-Warner's RoadRunner in Northeast Ohio, while using an Artisoft
> AE2/NE-2000
I'm on RoadRunner in Syracuse, NY. DHCP worked just fine before
RH6.0. What's different now is that the information for resolv.conf
is _not_ allocated after receiving the dynamic IP and the lease. I
had to enter in the domain and nameserver lines manually. Once I did
that, though, everything worked fine. There must be a way to fix this,
though. On the very bright side, I've had no lockups. I'm using a
3com 3c509b NIC (ISA) and the white Motorola CybrSurfr cable modem.
Greg H.
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From: Kai-Martin Haendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: TEAC SCSI cdrom + cdparanoia
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 18:09:43 +0200
Hi folks,
yesterday I purchased a TEAC CD532S to replace my old
Cyberdrive cdrom drive. The reason why is that I read on www.feurio.com
about the capability of the TEAC to rip audio tracks at 24x.
I rip the audio data with cdparanoia. My problem is that the TEAC isn't
quicker than the Cyberdrive (about 1x). In fact, my CD-Writer (TEAC55S)
is still much more faster (about 5 times!) than the 532S, used aswell by
cdparanoia.
It seems, that the 532S doesn't even spin faster. Only if mounted as
/cdrom with some datacd in it, it spins up to 32x.
A friend of mine uses a Pioneer cdrom (SCSI, too) and cdparanoia works
fine at quite high speed.
So, anyone who knows help, please mail me!!
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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: voodoo 3 under linux
Date: 08 May 1999 20:12:32 +0100
"Aziem Chawdhary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does Voodoo 3 run under Linux...
Yes. 2D only at present.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Half inch HP tape on Power Mac running Linux: reading errors.
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 14:12:42 GMT
In article <7gvtdb$h13$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> From article <7guomu$4kc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > Dear all;
> >
> > # mt -f /dev/st0 status
> > Unknown tape drive type (type code 0)
> > File number=0, block number=0.
> > mt_resid: 0, mt_erreg: 0x0
> > mt_dsreg: 0x3000001, mt_gstat: 0x45810000
> > General status bits on (45810000):
> > BOT WR_PROT ONLINE D_6250 IM_REP_EN
> >
> > ..which is not too bad. I can control the tape, rewind it and stuff and all
> > was looking remarkably good considering I thought it might not work at all.
> >
> > However, when using dd to read data off the tape it seems to stop after each
> > record. The third record is read by:
> >
> > dd if=/dev/nst0 of=brtape3 ibs=80 cbs=80
> >
> > ...and I would expect this to cat all of the data from that record on to the
> > brtape file right to the end of the tape. However it just reads one record.
>
>
> And then does.... what?
Yes I was not very clear was I? It reads in the first two files, but only
seems to read the first record from the third file, then it just stops. You
can re-run the dd command to read in further records but really we would like
to read in all the third file.
I think the record size stuff is right John as this tape, and this tape drive,
have both worked ok on a Sun server which we are trying to scrap. As you can
imagine if we can get the tape read ok on this Linux setup we'll be laughing.
Anyhow I'll try and re-run dd ignoring errors. But will have to wait until
Monday for that.
Cheers,
Drew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: 8 May 1999 20:18:25 GMT
On 8 May 1999 14:27:24 -0500,
Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody, I figured I want to post another followup, because
> something what I said "gets twisted round some other way"..
> I hope this will be the last one (at least, from me).
>
> On 7 May 1999 06:11:23 GMT, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Actually, machines are much more often shared at home than at work.
> >
> >Most families don't have a computer for every person. And what of the
> >neighbor kids coming over and playing? Or guests that want to check
> >email while on vacation? Or the babysitter doing her homework whilst
> >parents are off at a movie?
>
> You can not be serious. OK, assume there is a computer literate family
> where everybody (say, six people) use a computer. Let us even say there
> is a six year old neighbors who's checking her email and stocks on that PC.
I know many such families where every member uses the PC.
My own parents have three systems that they move around between -- there
isn't a one-to-one relationship between people and computers.
> BUT certainly everyone has distinct habits: different applications,
> different sites on the internet, different level of familiarity with
> shortcuts in menu, different typing speed, different mailboxes, for god's
> sake! There is really no big deal to tell one from another, given that
> you are choosing out of below ten folks. (Say, I'd offer you five grand
> for writing a code which would tell one user from another, out of 10;
> would not this be easy money?.. I am sure this could be easily implemented
> both on the OS level and on an individual application level.)
Typing speeds? The PIII now measures typing speeds? Or are you adding
in a whole slew of software that doesn't exist?
> As to reselling CPUs, again, this does not happen often (on the average,
> _at most_ once a year, right?), while THE BIG GUYS will notice the change
> in the ownership the same business day, and will reassign the PSN to someone
> else's driver's license. (It is not that they will certainly do this, but
> this is _easy_.)
Driver's license? Hello? What does a driver's license have to do with
anything?
> >
> >Microsoft won't be writing applications for Linux certainly not in the
> >next year, and unlikely in the next five. Linux is evil incarnate as
> >far as they are concerned, and porting applications to it would be
> >violating their FUD rules.
>
> They do not mind writing things for Macintosh, do they? I guess there will
> be (already is??) a comparable amount of Mac and Linux users, so why would
> not they release IE for Linux? To mention, I know someone who says that
> IE is much better than Netscape; I am not sure about that, but Netscape
> certainly sucks (although I do not know anything which would be... "less
> bad"), so there will be a serious demand for an alternative...
They have to prop up the Mac so they can claim competition. Linux runs
on the same hardware that is the core of MS's business. Linux is much
more competition to MS than Apple is.
> Have a look at http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html --
> Browser Jan Feb Mar Apr May?. June?.. December???..
> Navigator 4.x....71% 65% 62% 60%
> Microsoft IE.....22% 28% 30% 33%
>
> Keep in mind that these are people who are thinking about Linux....
> This certainly sucks.
Why? It sucks that a third of the people hitting your web page are
using the browser that comes with their computer instead of downloading
a 15M file? Why is this surprising: it is, indeed the whole point of
the DOJ case -- the vast majority of people don't download browsers and
what comes installed or from their ISP is what they use.
I fail to see how it's relevant, though.
> >As for anyone else, you do know that there's a kernel patch to break the
> >PSN, don't you?
> > ...
> >A simple patch and no userland program would have access to the PSN.
> >(Would have been really slick if the CPUID instruction were trappable:
> >then you could forge them and applications would have no idea you were
> >doing it. Of course, things like vmware or bochs could do that now.)
>
> OK, let's say this will work for Linux..
Duh. Of course it will work for Linux. See, once you turn off the PSN,
only 'ring 0' (ie, the kernel, or the bios before the kernel is loaded)
can turn it on again. All of Linux's security keeps users from
executing code in ring 0, so they won't be able to turn it back on
without loading a kernel module. If you run your web browser as root
you deserve to have your system compromised.
> Now your argument looks like this: this CPU is great because _although
> it tries to bug me_, I know how to overcome that. I do not care about
> those who use other OSes (although many people use dual boot system,
> and that's quite possible that a Linux fan would be often _doing
> something quick_ on the home PC when someone booted Windows up.)
If they run as dual boot, and the linux half has disabled the PSN, their
only worry is when they run Windows.
> Let me draw the following parallel (which is certainly not perfect):
> Someone says "It's fine if you set mines on my lawn as long as I know
> where they are". This someone is forgetting that there could be
> kids/guests/pets involved, and that he may need to mow the lawn some day...
Did you forget your Darvon today?
PSN's are not lind mines.
> >> If you have a spare time for this sort of things, you can stay PSN-free
> >> even running IE under windows on pentium III, but common people are not
> >> computer wizards.
> >
> >Then they shouldn't trust companies such as Microsoft with their
> >privacy. That's got nothing to do with Intel.
>
> This _has_ to do something with Intel. Is has provided another very
> nice thing which Microsoft or someone else would be glad to use. (Would
> you say that the physicists who invent some nice toys for military are not
> in any way responsible for weird bombs? Well that's right _they do their
> job_, but on there are many physicists who keep a distance from military
> applications; just, you know, in case...)
Uh-huh. Let's blame Craftsman, too, since they make hammers, and
without hammers none of this would exist!
Heck, they use Linux on many machines at Intel, and no doubt Linux has
helped their design work, so let's blame Linus!
Are you always this paranoid?
> >> This is called invasion of privacy or something.
> >
> >Nope, it's not. It's just a number which you can trivially supress on a
> >modern OS. On Linux, you can trust that it's suppressed: on Windows,
> >well, you'll have to trust Microsoft, but that's already the case for MS
> >users. (And their trust is highly misplaced.)
>
> Would you agree to have feds' videocamera in your bathroom (which you are
> allowed to turn off every time you pee) or a serial number tattooed on your
> hand (which you are allowed to conceal under the sleeve)?
Please stick with accurate analogies.
I'd be completely willing to accept a free video camera from Uncle Sam.
But there's nothing that requires me to keep it on, focused on what they
want it focused at, or that forbids me from installing it on a lightpost
so they can watch my whole neighborhood.
> And, again, there are so many dual-boot questions-answers in newsgroups
> that I wonder how many Linux users stay Microsoft-free...
I've never had a Microsoft OS installed on any of my systems. The last
Microsoft product I used was 'm80', their assembler for Z80 systems.
> And although PSN may be fought, this practice sucks, and I am not
> quite sure what the consequences may be. Since we _do_ have a choice
> between PIII and K6-3 (with K7 coming, hopefully), this is a good idea
> to avoid the plaque.
The problem is, as I have stated repeatedly, that people who spout off
nonsense about the PIII (from "it will make the internet faster!" to
"big brother is here!") are wasting their breath. There are FAR faster
CPUs if you want speed. There are far greater threats to privacy thaht
you are ignoring.
What good is protecting your PC's security when the network it is on
(and all traffic thereon) is sent in clear text or breakable DES because
of EAR? Or when you turn off the PSN yet Microsoft is busy stamping
their own ID onto every document you write? Or when Microsoft is
recording an inventory of all the software installed on your machine
when you do their "active update"? Or when you feed all your credit
cards into "Microsoft Wallet" to keep them handy, but not knowing
whether or not Microsoft is using that information and how?
You want an analogy?
You're akin to the person who thinks that privacy comes by unplugging
the telephone because it -could- be used to listen in on their
conversations. Meanwhile, you neglect the real and present dangers of
the windows, air ducts, and even the people you invite to your "secure"
meetings.
The very second that a Microsoft product is installed on your system,
you have given up all security. Attempts to claim you've debugged the
room are meaningless when one of the guests is a mole.
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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