Linux-Hardware Digest #188, Volume #13            Thu, 6 Jul 00 21:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Why can't I use on board IDE and a Promise Ultra66 at the same time? ("B. Joshua 
Rosen")
  Re: Screen Savers, Locking Screen (Tony Curtis)
  Touchpad mouse problems (Henry Lee)
  Re: 3c503 and Catalyst 6506 and Linux (Bob Chiodini)
  Re: S3 Video Card and Mouse Cursor (Bob Chiodini)
  Re: Getting Redhat  on 12 MB (Tom Eastep)
  SMC EZNET-ISA install info (Glen G. Walker)
  Re: ThinkPad 600X Modem and kppp/pppd (Yudhvir Singh Sidhu)
  Re: Creating Desktop Icons? ("B. Joshua Rosen")
  Re: Looking for sexy embedded linux hardware (Wolfgang Denk)
  Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan?  ("Steve Conover, Sr.")
  Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW? (Zoltan Kocsi)
  Re: Getting Redhat  on 12 MB ("Jack Thomas")
  Re: Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan? (James Knowles)

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From: "B. Joshua Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why can't I use on board IDE and a Promise Ultra66 at the same time?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 19:24:40 -0400

Here is what I'm trying to do. I have two drives, an IBM 14.4G ATA33
drive and a new IBM75GXP 45G ultra 66 drive. The 14.4 has the OS on it,
the 45G is application and user space. I want to boot from the 14.4
connected to the onboard controller while using the Promise card for the
45G drive. Unfortunately the BIOS seems to ignore the onboard controller
if there is a device attached to the Promise card. I don't want to
attach both drives to the Promise card until Redhat provides a standard
kernel that will boot off of the Promise card. I use Win4Lin so I can't
build a custom kernel unless I'd be willing to go back to rebooting my
system into real Windows, a prospect to horrible to contemplate. Has
anyone been able to boot a setup like this.

The system is a Dell Dimension R450 with the A13 BIOS.

Thanks,

Josh

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From: Tony Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Screen Savers, Locking Screen
Date: 06 Jul 2000 18:25:31 -0500

>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:58:27 -0700,
>> "David Stackis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> I never tried running xlock or xscreensaver from the
> command line in a terminal window.....  Will doing that
> initiate the xscreensaver, xlock install?

If only :-)

no, it will just let you see whether the prograsms are
there, or on your PATH so you can run them.  Clicking
things usually means that error messages aren't visible
(they'll probably be on the console though) on the
desktop.  Doing it from the command line means you'll see
any error messages in that terminal window.

hth
t
-- 
"With $10,000, we'd be millionaires!"
                                           Homer Simpson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henry Lee)
Subject: Touchpad mouse problems
Date: 6 Jul 2000 23:11:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have been using a refurbished NEC 2430CD notebook for the last
eighteen months where I've installed Windows 95 and Slackware
Linux 3.1 (kernel 2.0.27) on the hard disk.  

Up to now, I have not had any problems with the hardware (mouse,
keyboard, screen, PCMCIA slots).  Recently, I've encountered problems with
the touchpad mouse (which comes with the usual two L/R buttons).  The
problems are of the following nature under Linux's fvwm X window manager:

(1) Sliding my finger with the touchpad mouse from one xterm
window to the next xterm window selects text, instead of just
"moving" from one window to the next.  This effect is independent
of how hard I press my finger on the touchpad mouse.

(2) Left-click button is completely disabled.

(3) Right-click button seems to become the left-click button, and

(4) pressing Left and Right buttons simultaneously no longer works 
to give the Middle button functions under X.

These problems exhibit similar characteristics while I'm in
        * DOS - I get stuck using 'edit', or
        * Windows 95 - "sliding"/button functions seem mismapped

The curious aspect to all of this is that I had no "warning."
One evening, all worked fine, and the next day, I've got "instant"
touchpad problems.

I tried installing a 3-button ChampMouse onto the PS/2 port
and things seem to work fine with the "external" PS/2 mouse.
In fact, it appears that both the touchpad mouse and the
"external" mouse are functional.  

However, a problem arises if I accidentally touch the touchpad mouse.
I get the same kinds of problems I discussed above and I can not
get any reasonable mouse (proper click or select) functions with
the external PS/2 mouse.  In other words, I get "stuck" and have
to (soft-)reboot, which is a real pain in the butt.

So, I'd like to find some way of disabling the touchpad mouse
on both the Win95 and the Linux sides and just use the
external PS/2 mouse.

I'd appreciate any help/comments about this.

Thanks.
--
Henry Lee                             http://aries.phys.yorku.ca/~lee/
Dept. of Physics & Astronomy         Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
York University, 4700 Keele St.      Phone: 416-736-2100 x66391
Toronto, Ontario  M3J 1P3  Canada      Fax: 416-736-5516

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From: Bob Chiodini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3c503 and Catalyst 6506 and Linux
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 23:36:04 GMT

Nancy,

Try configuring the switch port of your firewall to 10
Mb/Halfduplex.  We have numerous problems getting our Cisco 5500
switches to autosense.  It seems it has something to do with the
cable length.  In our lab, autosensing worked 100% of the time.
Cable lengths were short, < 10 m.  In the field, where the cables are
around 60 m, we have seen negotiation problems with several different
NICs (3Com and others).  You may also try set port disable/set port
enable.  This for some reason has always brought the port back online
(w/autonegotiation).  But failures still occasionally occur (when the
users reboot), unless we force the switch to the correct speed and
duplex.  Duplex is extremely difficult to autonegotiate.  The 3c503,
AFAIK, is a 10 Mb/s half duplex card.

Bob...

"N. Milligan" wrote:

> Our configuration is a Linux system on Intel, a 3c503 interface,
> Redhat 6.1 and a Catalyst 6506 switch.  The linux system is a
> firewall, so has two interfaces and is running IPchains.  The
> system was plugged into the new 6506 switch (the internal part of
> the network) and stopped being able to communicate to the
> masqueraded network (the inside).  Works fine plugged into the
> old switch.
>
> Is the 3c503 unable to autonegotiate with the Catalyst 6500 type
> of switch?  I'm completely stumped on this one.  Doesn't seem
> like the IPchains should have anything to do with this problem.
> I flushed all the ipchains and still had the problem so figured
> it wasn't related to that.
>
> Anyway, I'm completely stumped.  Any ideas?
>
> Oh, while we're at it.  Is there any way to query the interface
> (3c503) and find out what mode it is running in (half/full,
> speed)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Nancy M.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
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  Bob Chiodini                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bob Chiodini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S3 Video Card and Mouse Cursor
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 23:42:15 GMT

B,

You have the syntax correct.  It goes in the Device Section of the
/etc/X11/XF86Config file.  man XF86_SVGA will help.

Bob...

Slakr67 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I know I have seen this posted here before, but now I can find no
> reference to it anywhere.  I am setting up my second Linux (Red Hat 6.2)
> box here at work and am having a problem with the giant white square as
> a  mouse cursor.  The box has an S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP card (yes it sucks,
> but it's paid for), and I know you insert a line the reads...
>
> Option     "sw_cursor"
>
> but I am not sure if that is the correct syntax or WHERE the line goes
> in XF86Config, please help if possible.  By the by, I have been running
> Linux on my primary work machine without a hitch for a couple of weeks,
> and am going to start migrating some of my users off of NT on a case by
> case basis. Fear the penguins!
>
> B

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  Bob Chiodini                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Eastep)
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,comp.os.linux.embedded,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.install,redhat.kernel.general,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: Getting Redhat  on 12 MB
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:37:23 -0700

Craig Hagerman wrote:
>I am currently running RH 6.2 on a Dell Inspiron with a 12 GB drive.
>

Simon pointed out to me in a private email that he has a 12 _MB_ drive.

-Tom
-- 
Tom Eastep             \  Eastep's First Principle of Computing:
ICQ #60745924           \  "Any sane computer will tell you how it
[EMAIL PROTECTED]       \   works if you ask it the proper questions"
Shoreline, Washington USA \___________________________________________



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glen G. Walker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SMC EZNET-ISA install info
Date: 6 Jul 2000 23:51:29 GMT

OK, so I saw that somebody else had this same card and also could not get
it recognized by RedHat... 

Here is how I got it to work:

I made a DOS floppy and booted up the linux box with that, then stuck
in the install diskette that SMC had bundled. I ran the configuration EXE
(SMCINSTALL.exe or something like that...) and used "custom setup" to turn
plug and play off. Then I began to reinstall RedHat 5.2...

Although the website said that you can use the SMC Ultra driver, it still
would not recognize until for no apparent reason I tried using the NE2000
driver... jackpot. it took and set up just fine. 

Now I just have to configure TCP/IP... 

Glen

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From: Yudhvir Singh Sidhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600X Modem and kppp/pppd
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:04:56 GMT

It was a long time ago I seem to recall a similar problem, the solution
seemed to lie in checking one of the KPPP configuration boxes. Memory is
hazy.

Yudhvir
====

"Joseph C. Kopec" wrote:
> 
> I have an IBM ThinkPad 600X, which has a Lucent Mini PCI modem.  I am
> running RedHat 6.2, which has version 2.3.11 of pppd, and I am loading
> the ltmodem.o module.  I use kppp to set up my ppp connection.  In the
> past, I have been able to use the modem under Linux to hook up to my ISP
> (AT&T Worldnet), which uses CHAP authentication.  In the last few days,
> however, I have not been able to do so.  What happens upon launching
> kppp is that, after the modem apparently makes a connection, the
> "Starting pppd..." message appears on the Login Script Debug Window of
> kppp and I eventually hear a small "pop" (apparently the modem
> disconnecting) and get a message box stating that pppd failed to start
> in time.  I also get a "Signal 15" message in my log.  Running ps -ax
> reads as follows:
> 
>   771 ? S pppd 1152000 -detach crtscts defaultrout -pap user [my ISP id
> number]
> 
> This is the same as what is produced by my properly-functioning desktop
> computer (which has an ISA Creative Modem Blaster Flash 56II Modem),
> except that "ttyS1" shows up as the tty column in the desktop as opposed
> to a "?" in the ThinkPad.  It thus seems to me that the problem may have
> to do with the inability of pppd to get ahold of the modem device. In
> the ThinkPad, I have set up /dev/modem as my modem device in kppp.
> /dev/modem in turn is a symbolic link to /dev/ttyS14, which is
> apparently the name of the Lucent modem under its driver.  This
> arrangement seemed to work in the past (as recently as last week) and I
> haven't made any significant changes to the configuration of the
> ThinkPad.  Any thoughts or suggestions as to how I could get this modem
> working again under Linux would be much appreciated.

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From: "B. Joshua Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Creating Desktop Icons?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:15:47 -0400

Redhat 5.2 is ancient, upgrade to 6.2 which has Gnome included. It's
relatively easy to attach an icon to a launcher, although it's still a
little kludgy in a Windows 3.1 kind of way, it's not automatic the way
it is in a Mac or the way it seems to by in Windows 98.


David Stackis wrote:
> 
> We all know how simple it is to create icon shortcuts on the desktop in
> WindowsXX....
> 
> How in the world does one do this in Linux?
> I just installed Redhat 5.2, and it seems to be fine....I have the gui up
> and running, and I can switch to AfterStep...
> 
> But how do I create icons for my application, and then place them on my
> desktop?
> 
> TIA
> 
> David Stackis
> Linux Newbie
> 
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From: Wolfgang Denk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for sexy embedded linux hardware
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:04:38 GMT

[Longer reply sent by email, here a short summary for the list.]

Sylvain POURRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>would like to ask you some questions about Linux and real time. So far I
>knew Linux is not a real time system, have you a special kernel or a

Check http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux.new/index.html and
http://www.aero.polimi.it/projects/rtai/ for information about
real-time extensions to Linux.

>patch on a normal one. Is it possible to burn the kernel and programms
>into a ROM, PROM or EEPROM? What about the adresses translation when the

Yes; for instance, the full Linux kernel wit a web server and 560  kB
of web pages can fit in 994 kB of Flash memory.

>programm is loaded. Do you use a special compiler to product such a code
>or do you use the normal gcc with an option. Is it possible to developp

It's the normal GCC, but usually configured to run as cross compiler.

>programms and to debugg them on the board or is it necessary to use a
>cross-compiler on an intel PC. The last but not the less is it possible

It's not really necessary, but often the most convenient solution.

>to buy a single board ?

Of course it is - send email to me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details.

Wolfgang

-- 
Software Engineering:  Embedded and Realtime Systems,  Embedded Linux
Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87  Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88   Web: www.denx.de
"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."                - Doug Gwyn

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From: "Steve Conover, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan? 
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:37:28 GMT

Hello Linux experts.  I'm a novice who wants to network my home,
but wants to avoid purchasing NT Server, for lots of reasons.

My goal: Linux home server for three or four PC's, for sharing
files, printers, and cable modem internet connection.

Just need bare essentials for a server, and want to be sure
everything is 100% guaranteed to work with Linux (Red Hat,
probably).  

Here's the configuration I'm planning; PLEASE let me know if
anything below might give me Linux-compatibility problems...
============================================================
Group 1: planned hardware I don't own yet:

Motherboard:  ASUS P2B w/ onboard Adaptec SCSI controller
CPU: Intel P-III ~500MHz
NIC: 3COM 10/100
Cable, RJ-45 twisted pair (specs?)
Graphics card: ? (suggestions please)
SCSI CD-ROM drive: ? (suggestions please)
============================================================
Group 2: hardware I already own:

Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda, Ultra-2 SCSI, 9G
Monitor: ViewSonic 17"
Printer1: LaserJet 5
Printer2: Phaser 740
Logitech keyboard, trackball

...oh yeah; I also own:
screwdriver; pliers; fire extinguisher; sledgehammer   :-)
============================================================

I would appreciate watch-outs, suggestions, and warnings.  Also,
advice on anything I might have overlooked.  Thanks a lot.

--Steve



Steve Conover, Sr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Zoltan Kocsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.verilog
Subject: Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW?
Date: 06 Jul 2000 11:35:21 +1000

Steven Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Now that Pentium w/ 1GHz+ chips are available, using PCs with Linux to
> run [selected] EDA applications suddenly becomes an irresistible
> alternative. 

Have you tried to mention this opinion to synthesis tool vendors as
well (especially FPGA ones) ? Maybe your voice from cisco.com would
sound louder than say, mine from bendor.com.au ...

Regards,

Zoltan

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| ** To reach me write to zoltan in the domain of bendor com au ** |
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| Zoltan Kocsi                   |   I don't believe in miracles   |  
| Bendor Research Pty. Ltd.      |   but I rely on them.           |
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Reply-To: "Jack Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jack Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,comp.os.linux.embedded,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.install,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: Getting Redhat  on 12 MB
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:55:34 -0700

I have seen several, very small distributions of Linux available on the
Internet.

If you go to http://www.linux.org you will find a link that say's
"Distributions".

Click on that link, and it will give you a Web page that has a section that
say's "Distribution Information", with a few links under it.

Click on those links and you will find MANY different distributions of
Linux.

While it is true there is MUCH HYPE over Red Hat Linux being a good, (IT IS
a very good distribution don't misunderstand me) if your going for small &
efficient, an "OFF THE SHELF" distribution probably won't work for you.

If your really pressed for space (12 MB is pressed for space, but more than
enough for a Linux install), and your looking to do an EMBEDDED system, then
you would probably be better off just creating a custom installation for
your project, with only the things you really need.

If you need assistance you're welcome to email me, or post to the newsgroup
as well.

It's only my opinion, and I welcome any comments or suggestions from anyone,
but I hope it helps at least.

- Jack Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Tom Eastep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Craig Hagerman wrote:
> >I am currently running RH 6.2 on a Dell Inspiron with a 12 GB drive.
> >
>
> Simon pointed out to me in a private email that he has a 12 _MB_ drive.
>
> -Tom
> --
> Tom Eastep             \  Eastep's First Principle of Computing:
> ICQ #60745924           \  "Any sane computer will tell you how it
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]       \   works if you ask it the proper questions"
> Shoreline, Washington USA \___________________________________________
>
>



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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux home server: Clean-slate hardware plan?
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 19:08:54 -0600

> Here's the configuration I'm planning; PLEASE let me know if
> anything below might give me Linux-compatibility problems...
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Group 1: planned hardware I don't own yet:
> 
> Motherboard:  ASUS P2B w/ onboard Adaptec SCSI controller
> CPU: Intel P-III ~500MHz
> NIC: 3COM 10/100
> Cable, RJ-45 twisted pair (specs?)

No problems with HW. Nice MB. I've got a slightly dated P2B-D (dual CPU
version, dual P-II/400's in it). For a server you might even want to
consider a Celeron or K6-2. On a different server I just upgraded the AT
MB to an old ASUS P5A-B with a 500MHz K6-2. Very nice and cheap little
screamer. 

One thing that I may point out is that my main server is a heavier-duty
machine running an Oracle database. The smaller server is closer to what
you'd want on a home network.

Personally I've had zero problems with 3COM, to the point that I'll pay
a little more for the peace of mind. Same with ASUS MBs in general. 

> Graphics card: ? (suggestions please)

For a dedicated server that you kick under the table and forget about?
You can you an old 16-colour 256k RAM VGA card and ssh into the server
if you really need to do anything. 

If you intend to sit at the KB and bash on the machine directly, I've
had good results with ATI and Matrox, not to exclude other good cards.

> SCSI CD-ROM drive: ? (suggestions please)

You can get by fine with a cheap IDE CD-ROM with this MB. My P2B-D works
great with three SCSI HD configured for RAID-5 and a IDE CD-ROM drive.

My two cents.

-- 
Long-range planning does not deal with future decisions, but with the
future of present decisions.
- Peter Drucker

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