Linux-Hardware Digest #528, Volume #10           Sat, 19 Jun 99 02:13:30 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Does this sound like bad hardware? (Gerald Willmann)
  Re: Diamond modem compatability. (Gary I Kahn)
  Re: Q (modem) (Rob Clark)
  FUJITSU MO on RH6.0 ("Robert Hancock")
  IDE Tape and TAR ("Ben Humphreys")
  Re: New Travan Tape Drive was: Eagle Exabyte TR-3 Parallel Port Support. ("Ben 
Humphreys")
  Re: RAID for Linux / Unix apps (bryan)
  Quantum Fireball+ KA ("Ron")
  Slackware 4.0 + IBM Etherjet ISA PnP card ("Peter Letkeman")
  Re: RAID for Linux / Unix apps (Mike Frisch)
  LVD Question ("David Peters")
  Re: LS120 mega floppy and DVD-rom support (John Hong)
  Re: $mall, cheap firewall router ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Serial console - Sys msg, but no login! (Paul Anderson)
  [ERRATA] Re: Serial console - Sys msg, but no login! (Paul Anderson)
  Re: Creative CDRW reported as DVD too (Ho Kim Kiu)
  Yamaha XG 64V Wavetable Linux-compatible? (Dev Null)
  Re: Yamaha XG 64V Wavetable Linux-compatible? (Jim Hill)

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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does this sound like bad hardware?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:22:53 -0700

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, PhilD wrote:

>       Well, I now have RedHat 6 up and running with e/gnome.  It
> works fine except for some configuration for the sound.  The resources
> aren't very good though.  At a fresh boot, the system monito shows
> about 60MB of ram in use.  ( I think I need to get rid of some things
> like httpd).  the Screen response is slow, but I think that has to do
> more with the frame burred driver for the vid.  (1024x768x24)  I let
> it up and running one night with only the screensaver going. The next
> day after work (17hrs or so) I check the mem again.  It was over 110MB
> used.  Most of it was in use my X (58MB)  This is worrying me.  The
> system is not touching the 133MB swap drive, but I don't understand
> how someone can run this if it is normal for it to used 110MB or ram!

the 60 MB is hard to believe - does that include X and other apps open?
My system here runs quite a few daemons but has only about 10 MB in use
when coming up. That is with one login/bash but without X or anything
else. How do you determine your memory usage? If you use free make sure
you look at the net of buffers line as linux keeps a lot of stuff buffered
for future use.
                       Gerald



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From: Gary I Kahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond modem compatability.
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:40:42 -0400

Darren Johns wrote:
> 
> I am looking at getting a new 56K modem, and from what I can see the
> Diamond SupraExpress 56 ones look quite good.  I would like to hear from
> anyone who has got any experience/problems etc. with any of the

I am also considering an external SupraExpress 56 V.90 modem.  I
wrote to Diamond tech support.  Here's what they said:

        Although the SupraExpress 56e modem should work in Linux,
Diamond does
        not support Linux.

        If you have any questions, please feel free to write back. 
 
        Thank you,
 
        Supra modem support

I plan on ordering it directly from Diamond.  They have a 30-day
money back satisfaction-guaranteed return policy.  All I've got
to lose is the two-way shipping expense.

I also wrote 3Com about the USR $150 external Sportster v.90  I
asked if there were any known problem with linux, and whether
they had people available to answer questions if I had problems
with their modem vs. linux.  3Com sent me a form letter about
installing the modem under UNIX, which was not what I asked. 
Linux was not mentioned in the form letter at all.

Gary Kahn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: Q (modem)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:29:45 GMT

In article <7keb48$s05$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am trying to figure out whether my modem Aztech MD6802-U (AZT4029)
>is a winmodem (ie, can I use it with Linux). I couldn't find any
>info in the list http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html.

I downloaded the drivers from http://www.aztech.com.sg/c%26t/v90_zip.htm
and this was in the README.TXT file:

"  Step 3: Upgrading:
   __________________

   The Winmodem can be upgraded to the latest drivers from the Web Site or 
   by the manufacturer. To upgrade, please follow below

...

   Things to Note
   ==============
   1.  MD6802-U can be set up on both WIN95 and WIN95(OSR2) as well as
       WIN98 but no support on WIN3.x and DOS platform."

This appears to be a TI chipset winmodem, based on the drivers on the
Aztech site.  Sorry :(  If you send me the FCC #, I can add it to the
database.

Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Robert Hancock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FUJITSU MO on RH6.0
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:34:22 GMT

I have a Fujitsu 230 MB MO drive (Model M2512A on SCSI ID 4) running off an
Initio INI-9090U SCSI adapter that is built into a recompiled kernel
(2.2.5-15).
At boot, the Initio card and MO drive are seen correctly and the boot even
identifies the size of the MO disk and write protection but when I try to
mount the device as /dev/sda4, it freezes the box solid and the only way to
escape is by pressing the reset button.  Sometimes, I get the following
message:
SCSI device sda:  hdwr sector = 512 bytes. Sectors = 248826 (121 MB) [0.1
GB]
sda Write protect is off
sda:  sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
tul_bad_seg c=0

Is this problem because the MO drive is unsupported and, if so, has anybody
got any drivers for this MO?

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From: "Ben Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: IDE Tape and TAR
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:51:00 GMT

Hi,

I have recently installed an IDE Travan tape under Linux and am using TAR on
the device /dev/ht0

I am having a few problems and would like to know if this is the correct
device to use, is there an interpreted device. I'm getting the feeling that
this is the RAW device and i'm not meant to be using it.

Also, how do I do a tape format,reten, rewind, etc under linux. Thanks in
advance for any help you may be able to give.

Regards,
Ben Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




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From: "Ben Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: New Travan Tape Drive was: Eagle Exabyte TR-3 Parallel Port Support.
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:51:01 GMT

When you use this tape with TAR......do you reference it as /dev/ht0

I've just got some problems with mine and was not sure about this.

Regards,
Ben Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Philip Hirschhorn wrote in message <7e9mpa$6b0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>: Okay, no takers on this one.  Well, I figured it was going to come down
to
>: buying a new tape drive.  I want one that will use my current TR-3 and
TR-3
>: Extra tapes, so I am thinking of maybe getting a Travan 4 drive.
>
>: Can someone recommend a Travan Drive, which Kernel 2.2.x has sourced-in
>: drivers for, that I can compile directly into the kernel, and that runs
>: smoothly, stably, and reliably in a 100% i386 Linux environement.
>
>
>I've got a Seagate TapeStor 8000 (it's TR-4), and it's always worked
>wonderfully since kernel 1.something (I'm currently on 2.0.36).  I've
>got the IDE version, but it also comes as a scsi.
>
>
>Phil
>
>--
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Philip Hirschhorn          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>----------------------------------------------------------------------



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From: bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAID for Linux / Unix apps
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:56:34 GMT

ok - I found one reference to back up my claim:

http://www.dpt.com/downloads/technology_papers/tech2_6.pdf

enjoy ;-)


bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Mike Frisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:52:28 GMT, bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : >here's my thinking: pci is a much higher bandwidth channel than say
: : >scsi3.  if you pump data thru pci directly to a raid card, then that
: : >card writes (quickly) to a raid array several times faster than a
: : >single scsi3 channel (since it can use several scsi drives and, in

: : You're still limited by the speed of the SCSI bus whether you're feeding
: : the RAID array from the PCI bus or a SCSI channel.

: NO!  not if you have concurrent i/o operations.  if the controller
: writes to more than 1 drive at the same time, then you have more
: thruput.

: : >scenarios, so that cancels out.  you're left with
: : >cpu->pci->scsi->scsi-> or cpu->pci->raid.  clearly the latter has the
: : >potential to be faster.

: : I beg to differ.  There should be no performance increase over using a PCI
: : based RAID controller compared with a SCSI-SCSI RAID controller (all
: : things being equal with the RAID controller's CPU being equally powered in
: : both scenarios).

: I won't argue with you anymore.  and its not in my benefit to, either
: - I am not a scsi or raid vendor so I don't need to keep pushing this
: point.

: if you like to use scsi-scsi raid, use it.  it certainly is easier and
: more seamless to use.  but going from fat->thin->fat
: (pci->scsi3->scsi3->raid_controller) HAS to be more bottlenecked than
: fat->fat (pci->raid_controller).

: one final word - don't forget you have overhead in translating the
: disk requests (from the raw o/s) to scsi, then decoding the scsi into
: native raid controller requests, then back to scsi to the drives.
: with the 'fat' route, you go from native os requests directly to the
: controller and then to scsi drive commands.  does THIS explanation
: make more sense to you?

: -- 
: Bryan [at] Grateful.Net
: http://www.Grateful.Net

-- 
Bryan [at] Grateful.Net
http://www.Grateful.Net

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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Quantum Fireball+ KA
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:17:59 +0100

How does Linux handle the 7200rpm and UDMA66 capabilities of the above
drive.  Is there any software to turn off UDMA66 ?




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From: "Peter Letkeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Slackware 4.0 + IBM Etherjet ISA PnP card
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:29:38 -0400

First I am sorry for cross post. I can not seem to get my network card with
Slackware 4.0. I have been able to use ISAPNP and PNPDUMP to get my soud
card to work and tried the same for the network card. I know that the card
is functional, it works in windows 98. I looked for linux drivers but could
not find any. Here is what linux says about the card

# Card 2: (serial identifier f4 00 05 90 71 10 10 4d 24)
# Vendor Id IBM1010, Serial Number 364657, checksum 0xF4.
#     Version 1.0, Vendor version 1.0
#     ANSI string -->IBM EtherJet ISA Adapter<--
#
# Logical device id IBM1010
#     Device support I/O range check register
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x38
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3a
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3d
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed
if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE IBM1010/364657 (LD 0
#     IRQ 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14 or 15.
#         High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E)))
#     Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#         Minimum IO base address 0x0200
#         Maximum IO base address 0x0360
#         IO base alignment 16 bytes
#         Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0200) (CHECK))
 (NAME "IBM1010/364657[0]{IBM EtherJet ISA Adapter}")
# (ACT Y)
))
# End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK)

# Returns all cards to the "Wait for Key" state
(WAITFORKEY)

and this is what windows 98 says

# IBM EtherJet Adapter
# Interrupt Request 11
# Input/Output Range 0210-021F

Any help would be nice,
    Pete



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Subject: Re: RAID for Linux / Unix apps
Date: 19 Jun 1999 02:05:42 GMT

On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:52:03 GMT, bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>NO!  not if you have concurrent i/o operations.  if the controller
>writes to more than 1 drive at the same time, then you have more
>thruput.

How can it when the array is connected by a single SCSI bus?  In case
you're wondering, you can get multiple channel SCSI-SCSI controllers as
well (one channel connected to the host branched out into multiple
channels to the drives).  A PCI based RAID controller does not have an
individual channel connected to each disk.

>if you like to use scsi-scsi raid, use it.  it certainly is easier and
>more seamless to use.  but going from fat->thin->fat
>(pci->scsi3->scsi3->raid_controller) HAS to be more bottlenecked than
>fat->fat (pci->raid_controller).

No, it doesn't.  You have no proof to back this up.

>one final word - don't forget you have overhead in translating the
>disk requests (from the raw o/s) to scsi, then decoding the scsi into
>native raid controller requests, then back to scsi to the drives.
>with the 'fat' route, you go from native os requests directly to the
>controller and then to scsi drive commands.  does THIS explanation
>make more sense to you?

Nope.  Such a translation has to happen either on the RAID card on a
SCSI-SCSI RAID controller.

Mike.

-- 
======================================================================
  Mike Frisch                         Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Northstar Technologies        WWW: http://saturn.tlug.org/~mfrisch
  Newmarket, Ontario, CANADA
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From: "David Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: LVD Question
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:06:24 -0500

Sorry to take the focus away from this thread, but I've bee wondering the
same thing as Mike here.  I read the SCSI FAQ and I read Ancot's free SCSI
book but they conflict on the topic of LVD.  The FAQ says its OK to mix LVD
and SE devices, while the book says it's a no-no.  It sounds like it's OK as
Johan's hard drive has a jumper for LVD/SE.  So is the case you can have a
mixture of SE and LVD as long as all the devices are configured (SE or LVD)
the same?  Thanks





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Re: LS120 mega floppy and DVD-rom support
Date: 19 Jun 1999 03:27:39 GMT

Gene Heskett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: The IDE version works quite well.  I've been using mine on the linux box
: since HR5.2.   Support *may* depend on your bios, if its not seen in the
: early bootup screen before lilo even starts, the chipset may not support
: it on *your* board.  Thats a good excuse to go looking for a bios
: upgrade.

        The BIOS means nothing to an LS-120 drive.  I have my IDE LS-120 
working on a AMD 5x86/133Mhz machine.  Under DOS I simply install the 
driver for it to work.  Under Linux it picked it up automatically.  The 
only thing the BIOS will do is when you want to use it as your A: drive 
bootable device.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: $mall, cheap firewall router
Date: 19 Jun 1999 11:38:36 +0800


        Try to look at those NLX factor motherboard and case from ASUS. 
They are only 3 inches thick and size similar to old notebook computers. 
There are 10/100MB Ethernet, VGA built-in, 2 PCI slow can let you add 2 
more NICs.

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From: Paul Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serial console - Sys msg, but no login!
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 03:29:03 GMT

In article <7kenml$8km$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Anderson wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > Actually, you have it backwards. The PC ports are DTE (Data Terminal
> > Equipment) and the modems are DCE (Data Comm Equipment).
> >
>
> Ok, I'll buy the modem as a DCE device; I was going on memory but I
> still believe that the computer is also DCE device (at least according
> to my Wyse 60 manual).  Terminals and printers seem to be DTE devices.
>

In the early days, one never knew what to expect out of a particular
piece of hardware. I always thought a DIP switch to change from DTE/DCE
would have been a godsend. The W60, of which I have installed many,
assumes a DCE configured serial device ala Digiboard or whatever. That's
where you may have gotten the conclusion that an x86 serial port is DCE.
An x86 serial port is always default DTE, though 3rd party devices are
allowed to do what they wish.

> Best
>
> Cokey
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cokey de Percin, DBA            Email:
> Policy Management Systems Corp.  Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Columbia, South Carolina         Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

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From: Paul Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ERRATA] Re: Serial console - Sys msg, but no login!
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 03:33:34 GMT

While replying to a direct e-mail on this, I realized I forgot something
important. Check change in wiring diagram.


In article <7keb2e$rvk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Paul Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <7k9led$2gk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > dpc wrote:
> > >
> > > OK.  Let me calm down for a sec, <g>
> > >
> > > I'm trying to set up a serial console.   First I'll go over
> approximately
> > > what I've done so far.
> > >
> > > Have a null-modem cable from com2 on NT box to ttyS1(com2, of
> course) on
> > > linux box.
> >
> > Hmmm...  Null modem?  As I remember, the serial port is a DCE device
> and
> > a modem is a DTE device.  You're connecting two DCE devices and I
> don't
>
> Actually, you have it backwards. The PC ports are DTE (Data Terminal
> Equipment) and the modems are DCE (Data Comm Equipment).
>
> > believe a null modem cable will work.  I believe you need a serial
> cable
> > with some crossed lines; can't remember which ones at the moment.  I
>
> On 25-pin, they would be:
>
>    2---------3  RX
>    3---------2  TX
>    4--     --4  RTS
>       |    |
>    5--     --5  CTS

     7---------7  SG (signal ground)

>    6---------20 DTR
>       |
>    8--     --6  DSR
>            |
>   20---------8  CD
>
> You may get by with fewer connections, but to be absolutely sure, I
> always wire them up this way - no sense worrying about anything when
> you have a full set wired up.
>
> If you have two 9-pins or a 9-25, substitute the appropriate pin
> numbers as necessary.
>
> > think that for serial to serial communication such as laplink will
> work.
> >
> > > Enabled serial console support in the kernel and recompiled.
> > > I've got CRT open in NT waiting on com2.
> > >
> > > Modified /etc/inittab and added a line for the serial port, i.e.
> > > S1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS1 57600 vt100
> > > I have tried many variations of this such as getty -h and DT38400
> for the
> > > speed, and agetty, etc.  None have worked.
> > >
> > > Also found I didn't have a /etc/gettydefs file, so I added the
> appropriate
> > > lines to that.
> > > I also type Linux console=ttyS1,<SPEED> at the boot prompt...
> (Could that be
> > > locking up the port so it's not able to open it for a login??)
The
> > > suggestion doesn't seem to be the case as even when I don't add
> anything at
> > > the boot prompt, I still get no login prompt on the serial.
> > >
> > > In any case, I usually get the error message INIT: Id "S1"
> respawning too
> > > fast: disabled for 5 minutes. but other than that, I can't recall
> any other
> > > one.  But if I hit Alt+F9 I believe it is, I see an error message
> (I think
> > > this is with agetty, pardon me for being vague, I'm losing
> braincells here)
> > > with the tail end looking like "ioctl    Input/Output Error".
> > >
> > > Alright, I'm spent - I think that's all the info I can give.  If
> anybody can
> > > give me any pointers here, I will deeply appreciate it.  This is
> driving me
> > > nuts!  hehe  Thanks again!
> > >
> > > dpc
> > >
> >
> > PS - Don't forget to put the serial option in your lilo config so
you
> > can see the boot messages....
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Cokey
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Cokey de Percin, DBA            Email:
> > Policy Management Systems Corp.  Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Columbia, South Carolina         Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> --
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> attention."
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From: Ho Kim Kiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.tech,rec.video.dvd.players
Subject: Re: Creative CDRW reported as DVD too
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:48:18 -0400

Dave Brunberg wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I just got a Creative Labs cdrw4224 and it seems to work okay.  However,
> I was puzzled when (at startup) the linux kernel (2.2.3) reported it as
> a Creative CD-ROM CD-RW DVD-RAM drive (I don't have the actual string
> handy right now).  This must be from the drive's firmware.  My question
> is:  will this drive read DVD-ROM discs, or did Creative just leave the
> wrong string in the firmware?

As far as I know, it is not Creative. I have an old Mitsumi CD-R and it
display a similar message. Maybe it is coded in the kernel as such, but
I will have to check it to make sure.

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From: Dev Null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Yamaha XG 64V Wavetable Linux-compatible?
Date: 19 Jun 1999 04:46:10 GMT

I am planning to buy a Dell Dimension V400c and it comes with the
following sound card:

        Yamaha XG 64V Wavetable Sound

Has anybody got this sound card working under Linux? Is is supported
under Linux? I couldn't find any information about it in the RedHat
Linux Hardware Compatibility list. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

- Dev

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hill)
Subject: Re: Yamaha XG 64V Wavetable Linux-compatible?
Date: 19 Jun 1999 05:14:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In <7kf7ai$o03$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dev Null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am planning to buy a Dell Dimension V400c and it comes with the
>following sound card:
>
>       Yamaha XG 64V Wavetable Sound

It's not a sound card; it's a chipset built onto the motherboard of the
computer.  (He said after failing to research the issue thoroughly
enough before buying his own Dell with Yamaha XG 64V.)

>Has anybody got this sound card working under Linux? Is is supported
>under Linux? 

4Front has a commercial driver ($30 with free upgrades) that works
pretty well.  To the best of my knowledge, there is no free driver
for the chipset.  You can download a trial version of the commercial
driver that lets you test it for 30 minutes at a time from their website 
at www.opensound.com.

Feel free to email me if you have more detailed questions.


Jim
-- 
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   "People have grown used to thinking of computers as unreliable, 
       and it doesn't have to be that way."  --  Linus Torvalds

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