Linux-Hardware Digest #596, Volume #10 Sat, 26 Jun 99 07:13:42 EDT
Contents:
Re: Mounting Troubles (Jaysus!)
how to burn CD with IDE/ATAPI CD-RW ? (William Park)
Challenge:Compaq Prosignia VS! (Rudolf Hauri)
Re: HDD standby (hdparm) (Tim Moore)
RH 6.0 & 3C905C TXM Problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
DVD-RAM it is supported ?? ("=?iso-8859-1?B?SvxyZ2VuIEty5G1lcg==?=")
a Liveview Flyvideo TV-Card ("A.F. van der Horst")
pppd daemon died unexpectedly ("jerry keeney")
Re: Mounting Troubles (jik-)
Compatibility (Mohamed Bensoubaya)
Determining/Changing multiple SCSI adapter detection order. (Roy Adams)
PCI Modem (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bart=B3omiej?= Niechwiej)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
EMERGENCY please help (Kostis Mentzelos)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Brian Hartman)
Motherboard question (Hagbard Celine)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jaysus!)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Mounting Troubles
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:40:57 -0900
Eh? I don't even have /dev/fd0u1440. Are you sure you didn't mean fd0h1440?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Alright, here we go again. . .
> > I want to mount my floppy drive. It should be painfully simple, yet I
> > am unable to get it to work:
> >
> > When I type mount /mnt/floppy, I get the error "/dev/fd0 has wrong
> > major or minor numbers". Now what the hell does "wrong major or minor
> > numbers"mean, and then how can I rectify it? /dev/fd0 says
> > brw-r--r--1 root root 2, 0 Jun 22 09:55 /dev/fd0
> >
> > isn't that what it's supposed to read? Aren't the major/minor numbers
> > supposed to be 2, 0 ?
>
> Yes, /dev/fd0 is 2, 0 on my machine. Look at /dev/fd0u1440 should be 2,
> 28
> >
> > Help?
> >
> > If it matters, I'm running MKLinux DR3 with Generic 7.
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From: William Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to burn CD with IDE/ATAPI CD-RW ?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 08:40:39 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to burn CDs using Mitsumi CR-2600-TE which is IDE/ATAPI cd
reader/writer.
1) ISO-9660 image is made with
mkisofs -r -D -o /tmp/local.iso /usr/local -x /usr/local/lost+found
which produces CD image file 'local.iso'.
2) 'SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices' is loaded
during boot with
/sbin/modprobe ide-scsi
as 'CD-Writing-HOWTO' says, since I don't have SCSI machine or
kernel.
3) But, I can't seem to get my CD-RW recognized by the system. Trying
cdrecord -scanbus
produces
Cdrecord release 1.6.1 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 J�rg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
If anyone successfully used IDE/ATAPI cd-rw device with basic
IDE/ATAPI kernel (+ whatever modules), I would appreciate very much if
you could give me some pointers.
Yours truly,
William Park
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:42:15 +0200
From: Rudolf Hauri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Challenge:Compaq Prosignia VS!
I got myself an old Prosignia VS which used to run as a Novell Server.
Thought it might be interesting to try and see if I could get it to run
RH5.2
I don't have a clue what Adapter this thing uses, all I know is that it
has a SCSII HD and CD ROM. It has to be something proprietary.
The CD ROM isn't bootable and when I boot from the FD I get the first
message, after RH5.2 tries to initialize the CD ROM: mount failed: Block
device required. I could not mount a CD on device /dev/scd0
Seems to me that the SCSII Controller isn't recognized.
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot, Ruedi
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:38:19 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HDD standby (hdparm)
Most operating systems talk to their primary disk. As I type I'm
watching xosview report on disk activity to my primary linux drive
(boot, /, /usr, /var, 1/3 of the total swap). There's a small (8-16KB)
disk hit every 6-8 seconds. It's a safe bet you're not going to see
zero disk activity across a 4 minute window unless you've crashed.
> I've got a small server with 3 IDE disks. All three of them are set to
> spindown after 20 min of inactivity (hdparm -S 240 /dev/hd_).
>
> The two first drives, which are DOS formatted, are almost never used and
> are in standby mode most of the time. (hdparm -C reports this)
>
> My problem is the third drive, on which Linux resides on. This drive
> never spins down! I've tryied forcing it with hdparm -y/hdparm -Y, which
> makes the drive spin down but after a short period of time (30 sec) the
> drive is resetted and is back in normal/idle mode. I guess that some
> process wants to write to the disk. If so - Which? Why? Else what?
>
> The server is acting as a Samba/FTP/HTTP server.
>
--
direct replies substitute timothymoore for user name
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: RH 6.0 & 3C905C TXM Problems
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 06:29:13 GMT
We just purchased some Dell Dimension machines and they come with the
3Com 3C905C TXM NIC cards. RedHat claims that these cards are not
supported and neither are the Netgear FX310 TX nor the 3C905B TX. They
claim that the best card to buy is the 3Com 3c595. Unfortunately, I
can't find this card at our local computer stores.
I tried the Boomerang drivers from
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
and those don't seem to work either.
This is getting frustrating. After spending $78.00 for "support", I
don't feel that I'm getting my money's worth.
Any ideas for getting the 3Com 3C905C TXM cards working? When I try to
do an insmod 3c59x, I get an error message that the "device or resource
is busy." When I try to specify 3c59x during the install of RH6.0, I
get an error message that it can't find the card.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SvxyZ2VuIEty5G1lcg==?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DVD-RAM it is supported ??
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:11:53 +0200
J�rgen Kr�mer
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From: "A.F. van der Horst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: a Liveview Flyvideo TV-Card
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:08:01 +0200
Hi,
I have buy a Liveview Flyvideo TV-Card, and i'm using RedHat 5.2.
Anyone have a idea how i get this card working for example under WindowMaker
or KDE.
If you have a solution, please tell me in detail (newbie).
Thanx,
Lex van der Horst.
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From: "jerry keeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd daemon died unexpectedly
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:24:01 -0500
I have just been able to set up my external Zoom modem for use with linux.
After connecting the first time to the net using Kppp, I was able to surf
for about 3 minutes until I received the following message:
"The pppd daemon died unexpectedly"
I am using Mandrake Linux 5.3 (red hat 5.2) with KDE.
Here is the applicable portion of the script that I was given after this:
localhost pppd[375]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
........
localhost pppd[375]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
localhost pppd[375]: Modem hangup
localhost pppd[375]: Connection terminated
localhost pppd[375]: Exit.
I have connected again, with the same exact results.
Does anyone have any ideas/ suggestions??
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Mounting Troubles
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:20:54 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Alright, here we go again. . .
> I want to mount my floppy drive. It should be painfully simple, yet I
> am unable to get it to work:
>
> When I type mount /mnt/floppy, I get the error "/dev/fd0 has wrong
> major or minor numbers". Now what the hell does "wrong major or minor
> numbers"mean, and then how can I rectify it? /dev/fd0 says
> brw-r--r--1 root root 2, 0 Jun 22 09:55 /dev/fd0
>
> isn't that what it's supposed to read? Aren't the major/minor numbers
> supposed to be 2, 0 ?
Yes, /dev/fd0 is 2, 0 on my machine. Look at /dev/fd0u1440 should be 2,
28
>
> Help?
>
> If it matters, I'm running MKLinux DR3 with Generic 7.
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From: Mohamed Bensoubaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compatibility
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:25:04 +0200
Hello,
I acquired of K6 400 MHz on which I wish to install linux. The
installation of linux RedHat 6-0 was held perfectly, except with regard
to the management of the screen. The video card is recognized (it is All
In Wonder Pro 8 Mega - Mach 64) automatically at the time of the
installation. On the other hand, there is a problem with the monitor (it
is Shamrock). I made tests with a second machine also functioning under
linux RedHat 6-0. This second machine is Pentium DIGITAL, with a DIGITAL
screen. My Shamrock monitor works very well with Pentium DIGITAL, and
the DIGITAL monitor works very well with my central processing unit K6.
On the other hand, the Shamrock screen remains black on K6, in spite of
multiples tentaives of adjustments using Xconfigurator. Does somebody
know from which comes the problem,and how to cure it?
Thank you in advance!
===============================
M.BENSOUBAYA
CONGE Project
INRIA-Lorraine
e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Roy Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Determining/Changing multiple SCSI adapter detection order.
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:02:59 +0900
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello All,
I've been using an Adaptec AIC-7880 SCSI adapter (built into the
motherboard, using the PCI bus) under RedHat 5.2 and recently added an
Initio INI-9100U (it's a PCI card) for my scanner. RedHat 5.2 doesn't
have built-in support for the Initio card, so I planned to upgrade to
6.0. Unfortunately, when I start the install process, the Initio card
is detected first (by both the hardware startup and RedHat 6.0 setup)
and experiences a kernel panic since the card doesn't have a hard drive
attached. The relevant info is listed below:
Adaptec AIC-7880
BUS: 00
DEVICE: 11H
PORT: 6C00H
IRQ: 10
Initio INI-9100U
BUS: 00
DEVICE: 0BH
PORT: 6800H
IRQ: 11
So what do I need to change to have the Adaptec card detected first?
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bart=B3omiej?= Niechwiej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCI Modem
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:43:59 GMT
Hi,
I had a 33600 modem which worked perfectly with Linux (it was Zoltrix
ISA modem - not a PnP modem).
I sold it and bought Zoltrix Spirit 56K PCI PnP modem and I'm not able
to configure my Linux box to support it. When I look at /proc/pci I see
unrecognized pci device (and I know this is my modem) using IRQ 5. When
I try manually
setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 5 io 0x3e8 etc. it doesn't work (when I later
use minicom I can't talk to the modem). What should I do? Does anybody
know what to do with PCI PnP devices? Is any pcipnp (like isapnp)
program which could help?
Bartek Niechwiej
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:16:24 -0700
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:03:58 -0400, Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:19:15 -0400, Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:17:27 -0400, Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >> >Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Brian Hartman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >> >> : Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> : > Brian Hartman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >> [deletia]
>> >It's not the same effort. You can pick nearly any hardware device off the shelf
>in any
>> >computer store and get it to work with Win 95 in some way. (There are exceptions
>of course,
>>
>> That simply doesn't cut it. No consumer should tolerate it either.
>> That any of them would shows that the current computing market is
>> very broken.
>>
>
>The only exceptions are products with faulty drivers. And if "no consumer should
>tolerate"
>hardware not working with an OS, that rules Linux out immediately.
On some hardware, yes. This is why I will bluntly tell people
to not bother with Linux yet if it doesn't support their
legacy hardware.
>
>
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>> Nevermind that if you bother with such an artifically wide
>> definition of hardware support, Linux derives a similar
>> 'benefit'.
>>
>
>Linux has nowhere near the hardware support of Windows. That's documented. (see the
>PC Magazine
For new hardware, this isn't an issue. Either a system can be
put together by those that know what they are doing, or a
small amount of effort can be expended avoiding 'bad' hardware.
A single failure on the part of the whole Windows+Vendors conglomerate
immediately puts the same burden on the end user as they would have if
they ran any !DOS OS.
>article I referenced in another post). The fact of the matter is, Windows is the
>model for
>hardware support, and if it wasn't for Windows, there wouldn't *be* a computer
>hardware market.
This is just an ignorant lie. There was a PC hardware market alive
and kicking and thriving even before Windows. It's Compaq and Phoenix
and IBM and the state of electrical engineering that are responsible
for PC's not Windows.
>Linux doesn't support USB. Linux support for video cards is shaky. And PCMCIA
>support is
Linux does support it actually as does FreeBSD. Meanwhile, while
particular drivers are being developed, the bulk of the hardware
that exploits USB also exploits other interfaces.
The fundemental flaw with 'but DOS has all the toys' type of
argument is that you don't need all the toys, just a subset.
As far as Vidcards go, Matrox,3DFX and nVidia as well as Creative
are all hopping on the Linux/opensource bandwagon.
>sparse. Add to this the fact that if you *do* find those drivers, you have to
>configure them by
>yourself. And a number of the "fixes" to make hardware compatible with Linux are
>clumsy and
>time-consuming.
Not quite. You just get a distribution that is known to support them
and you let it do the work.
This is a nice thing about free quarterly OS updates.
--
It helps the car, in terms of end user complexity and engineering,
that a car is not expected to suddenly become wood chipper at some |||
arbitrary point as it's rolling down the road. / | \
Seeking sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: Kostis Mentzelos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EMERGENCY please help
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:26:28 +0300
My linux box is going dead after the last message:
INIT: version 2.65f booting
I don't know what to do.
I have SUSE 5.3.
I have boot the live linux CD but I don't know where to begin
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From: Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 03:32:55 -0400
Brian Hartman wrote:
> Ed Power wrote:
>
> > Tsmanlyman wrote:
> > >
> > > Here are the steps that I followed to recompile my first kernel after 2 weeks
> > > of experience with linux:
> > >
> > > make menuconfig
> > > make dep clean zlilo modules modules_install
> > > reboot
> > >
> > > Add 2 steps prior to that for a complete upgrade:
> > >
> > > get source
> > > unpack source
> > >
> > > I did this 2 weeks after my very first Linux install. What took YOU so long?
> > >
>
> You're leaving out a lot of steps in the kernel compilation process here. As per
> the official documentation, here are the steps for a new kernel install:
>
1) get source
2) unpack source.
3) run make dep
4) run make clean
5) make modules
6) make modules_install
7) make bzImage
8) Edit lilo.
9) Reboot and hope everything's ok.
Of course, even *this* ignores copying the kernel to a floppy, copying the kernel to
its rightful place (along with the system map) and making sure that all the symlinks
are correctly in place.
>
> >
> > > My windows installs went like this:
> > >
> > > 1. Realize you don't have a dos disk that will talk to your cd rom
>
> It's common sense (I would think) that if you're working from dos you're going to
> need the dos drivers.
>
> >
> > > 2. Get one from a friend (note that if you don't have any friends, you cannot
> > > install windows.)
>
> A better strategy would be to get the drivers from your own computer. If you're
> using your CD-ROM, it probably means it has the drivers on it.
>
> >
> > > 3. re-write your config.sys and autoexec.bat files because your friend has a
> > > different computer (if you don't remember dos or never knew, you cannot install
> > > windows.)
>
> Unneccessary step.
>
> >
> > > 4. Once the CD can be accessed, type setup at the prompt. Pray that it does
> > > not crash.
>
> Crashing on setup? Please....
>
> >
> > > 5. Answer all questions, pray that it does not crash (if it does, try again
> > > and hope that it does not crash)
>
> The total # of questions asked in the process is 2: Where do you want it and what
> do you want with it.
>
> >
> > > 6. ooo I forgot. Hope that you have the CD key (without this you cannot
> > > install windows.)
>
> If you've got the CD, it's right on the jewel case. And if you're pirating, at
> least have the courtesy to pirate from an original CD. The CD key is the price you
> pay for having a product that someone actually has a financial stake in. Maybe I'm
> just not an open source kinda guy, but I'm instantly suspicious of the quality of a
> product if the people releasing it think it's worth nothing.
>
> >
> > > 7. reboot (again, pray that it does not crash.. this one happened to me twice
> > > in a row on a single 98 full install on a clean hard drive.)
> >
>
> > > 8. If you crashed, do it again.
> > >
> > > My first linux install went like this:
> > > 1. Place CD in drive, turn on.
>
> That works fine as long as your CD-ROM drive is recognized. Unfortunately, that's a
> rather large "if". Mine wasn't.
>
> >
> > > 2. Answer questions concerning partitioning (at least it asked me!!!); follow
> > > recommendations in the manual (if no manual, go with one big partition)
>
> One big partiton isn't even an option (at least not in Red Hat). And a swap
> partition is always a good idea anyway.
>
> >
> > > 3. answer question concerning MY computer.. not the one windows assumes I
> > > have
>
> Windows, as I said, last time I checked, only asked where you wanted the install to
> go. (I'll admit that's 95, though. 98 might have different behavior.)
>
> >
> > > 4. select everything install (for redhat anyway)
>
> This can get you into trouble. RH makes assumptions about what you do and don't
> want on your computer.
>
> >
> > > 5. reboot when it sez to
> > >
>
> Ok. Now for the steps you forgot:
>
> 1) Find out if your CMOS supports bootable CD-ROMs.
> 2) Reboot several times wondering why your CMOS says it supports it, but it's not
> happening.
> 3) Copy your CD onto your hard drive.
> 4) Run fips to shrink the partition your install files are on so that you can
> install Linux.
> 5) Defragment your drive so that fips can work.
> 6) Resize the partition.
> 7) Run rawrite using boot image so that you can boot from a floppy.
> 8) Boot with the floppy.
> 9) Answer the questions initially put to you.
> 10) Run Disk Druid. Create the new partitions. Wait for the new partitions to be
> checked and formatted.
> 11) Pick the packages you want installed.
> 12) Let Xconfigure run.
> 13) Decide if you want Xconfigurator to probe for a card.
> 13a) If you let Xconfigurator probe for a card, pray it doesn't hang.
> 13b) If you choose not to let Xconfigurator probe for a card, I hope you have your
> memory and chipset information handy.
> 14) Accept the default settings. Hope that your display is ok from the default.
> 14a) If not, repeat steps 12 -14.
> 14b) If everything's ok, reboot.
>
> And that was my install experience. Actually, it was a little rougher than that,
> since I had WinNT still on a partition, and I had to delete and then recreate my
> swapfile so fips could work.
>
> >
> > > There ya go. My first install of windows was MUCH more problematic than my
> > > first install of linux. Why? The CDs are usually bootable, and they don't crash
> > > during install. I don't understand why so many ppl claim to have so many
> > > problems installing linux.
> >
>
> *If* your CD is bootable, you probably have fewer problems. But that depends on
> your BIOS. Not having a bootable floppy (and not having CD-ROM drivers on that
> floppy) makes things considerably more dicey for anyone doing an install.
>
> >
> > I can relate to that. Prior to running Linux, I was running Windows
> > 95. I had a 100 meg IDE drive on C: and a 1 gig SCSI drive on D:.
> > Windows 95 took to installing itself on D: and then constantly
> > complained about lacking diskspace.
> >
>
> I think you meant C:. Your D: drive sounds like it had plenty of space for
> Windows. And Linux suffers from the same kind of problem. You need to have at
> least part of Linux on C: so that you can boot into it with lilo. Yes, you can
> spread it out more than you can spread out Windows, but a significant part of it
> needs to be on the boot drive.
>
> >
> > Linux installed on drive D: without problems. I had problems trying to
> > get certain programs to run because of missing libraries, etc. But,
> > Linux is stable. I do not have to reboot my machine 10 times a day to
> > get my hard drive space back or to make a connection with my internet
> > provider.
> >
>
> Ok, I'm curious: How did you get Linux installed and bootable from a drive that's
> not your boot drive? My understanding was it wouldn't be bootable unless you had
> part of it on your boot drive.
>
> >
> > I would have to do a fresh install every month. It would take two or
> > thre attempts before it finally installed without hitch. And then I
> > would have to reinstall all of my Windows 95 programs. I would lose a
> > whole day or two of work. Then I would lose all of my long filenames.
> > It would work fine for about two weeks. Then all of my programs would
> > start speaking Chinese. Every program I would try to install would
> > install in Chinese. My printer would print Chinese.
> >
>
> I've heard horror stories like this, and I can't help thinking there's just a little
> bit of hyperbole involved. First of all, I've talked to many people who never have
> a problem Win 98. And I do mean *never*. I had some problems with 95, and that's
> why I dumped it, but I've heard (even from the Linux guru who convinced me to
> install Linux on my machine) that 98 is relatively stable. As far as doing a
> complete reinstall, I only did a *complete* reinstall once or twice in 95. Most of
> the time, the fixes I did were more along the lines of installing 95 over itself to
> fix something that broke.
>
> >
> > I would experiment with different backed up registry versions. My ppp
> > would stop working for no reason, and I would need to reinstall all of
> > my networking files. I eventually found out that if shut down my
> > machine, booted into Windows 95 and then did a warm reboot then I could
> > log in.
> >
>
> Quite honestly, it sounds like your problem is with more than Windows. I would say
> your programs and printer speaking "Chinese" is not something that should happen, no
> matter what happens to the OS.
>
> >
> > I got smart. I sold my copy of Windows 95. I dumped my internet
> > provider (World123). You can only connect with a Windows 95 or NT
> > machine. Now I run Netscape 6 with 8 search windows open at a time, and
> > my netscape crashes once or twice a day. Much better than having to
> > reboot 10-15 times a day.
> >
>
> Netscape crashing once or twice a day is still a little much, don't you think?
> (Although I have noticed a problem with Netscape for Linux and certain pages. In
> Windows, I would simply get an error if a page wasn't coded right. In Linux, if
> Netscape comes across a page it doesn't like, it just shuts down.)
>
> >
> > Windows 98 is supposed to fix all the bugs that Windows 95 had. Why
> > even bother? I run regular Windows when I need to do something that
> > Linux can't do. Oh yea, my credit card processing software refused to
> > install in Windows 95. I had to get a special version for Windows 3.1.
> >
>
> I didn't bother with 98. I did most of my work in NT (and still plan to, until
> I get my printer working or I get a new printer.) 98 is just a ploy to get more
> money out of people and integrate more tightly with the Internet.
>
> >
> > Microsoft sucks plain and simple. Their buggy software is extremely
> > overpriced. Linux is much more stable and cheaper :) than Microsoft
> > will ever be.
> >
>
> The only qualm I have with Linux apps in general is that they are sometimes
> difficult to install. As far as the pricing goes, you can't beat it, but you suffer
> in terms of support, because the people writing the programs have nothing at stake
> if you can't get it to work. I think what needs to happen is the big companies need
> to release low-cost versions of their software for Linux. That way there's a big
> support system with some stake in actually pleasing the customer.
>
> >
> > --
> > Ed Power
> > Proprietor
> > Computer Headaches
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Web: http://www.bigfoot.com/~powercomputersystems
> > Web: http://www.ComputerHeadaches.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hagbard Celine)
Subject: Motherboard question
Date: 26 Jun 1999 03:47:06 -0500
I realise that many must have asked such a question as this, so flame
me if you must if my question comes on the heels of another.....
Anyway, after the Pentium III serial number crap, I swore off Intel
completely (or at least as much as possible) because all they have to
do is quietly burn serial numbers into some other chip, in much the
same way as removing the ID numbers from M$ Word documents means
nothing because there is 40k of other identifying information imbedded
as well. So..... Could anyone either suggest a decent non-Intel
based motherboard for a Linux box or at least mention chipsets I
should avoid?
Incidentally, one motherboard that caught my eye was an A-Open AX59PRO
with VIA� Apollo MVP3 chipset and AMD� K6-2 3DNow! processor (450MHz).
Does anyone know of any problems with such a configuration?
Thanks much,
Hagbard
Only the madman understands the world.
It is because he understands that he is mad.
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