Linux-Hardware Digest #876, Volume #10           Thu, 29 Jul 99 06:13:34 EDT

Contents:
  Tekram DC-390F with Linux (Tapio =?ISO-8859-1?Q?V=E4=E4tt=E4nen?=)
  Re: Repost:Anyone using Terratec Base-1 sound card? ("Paul Hobbs")
  Re: is my hardware supported in linux? ("Bill Smith")
  Linux is not detecting my HD cache correctly (Akop Pogosian)
  Re: FS: 5 Digital vrt19-ha 19" Triniton Monitors ; $135 each ("Kent Rankin")
  ESS Maestro sound help? (jcomeaux)
  AMD K6-3 vs. Dual Celerons (Jeremy Fincher)
  Re: FS: 5 Digital vrt19-ha 19" Triniton Monitors ; $135 each ("Kent Rankin")
  Re: Bogus hard disk sizes from manufacturers (Csaba Raduly)
  Re: Reconstruct partition table (Dirk Aust)
  IBM Netfinity 5500 and Caldera 2.2 Problems (Robert C Flisik)
  Re: Video Capture Card: (Dirk Aust)
  Caldera 2.2 and IBM Nefinity 5500 (Robert C Flisik)
  Re: Linux is not detecting my HD cache correctly (Dirk Aust)
  Re: Linux SCSI Performance Issues (Stefaan A Eeckels)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tapio =?ISO-8859-1?Q?V=E4=E4tt=E4nen?=)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Tekram DC-390F with Linux
Date: 29 Jul 1999 08:42:58 +0300

Hello,

I just installed Tekram DC-390F to my Linux system.
The host adapter found my Seagate ST-32107N 
(SCSI-2 Fast, 2.1GB) drive with no problems. 

I got the system boot from SCSI and everything seems
to be OK, except... On SCSI BIOS setup on boot, 
I got following warning: 

"WARNING: 256 Heads, 64 Sectors Parameter is expected..."
(I don't remeber the actuall numbers, but they differ
from whats said in User's Manual, see below)

Similar warning is mentioned in User's manual. So I did
low level format the drive and got rid of the warning,
but it came back after I partitioned and formatted the drive. 
(the warning didn't exist at the first time before I partitioned
and formatted the drive with Linux fdisk.)

It seems that this is some what Linux related problem.
Since I'm totally new to SCSI, I really don't know how to solve
this. It's not a major biggy, everything works very well, but
I still want to get rid off the warning.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                              http://www.iki.fi/tav/prudence/

Equal bytes for women.

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From: "Paul Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Repost:Anyone using Terratec Base-1 sound card?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:25:59 +0200


Richard C. Ferryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I tried to get my Base 1 set up using the IRQ, DMA and i/o settings
> that windows uses but to no avail.  I read the AD1816 docs and  see
> that I should run isapnp.  Whatever I do isapnp fails.  Does anyone
> have a working isapnp.conf that works with a Base 1?

I need help with this one as well. As far as I can see I've got the thing
configured OK but I'm still not getting any sound. I'll post a more detailed
explanation of my situation later today (no time at the moment!).

--

Paul Hobbs



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From: "Bill Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: is my hardware supported in linux?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 00:36:10 -0500

Try   http://www.metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/docs/HARDWARE.

This will at least tell you if your hardware is supported.

Bill

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eps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92Rn3.549$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> appreciate any experiences regarding linux and the following hardware:
>
> 3dfx Voodoo3
>
> Diamond MX300 soundcard (Vortex2 chipset)
>
> Adaptec 2940 SCSI pci card
>
> Plextor 32x CDROM and  8/20x CDR, both SCSI
>
> Linksys PCI 10mbit ethernet card pci
>
> 3com/USR 56K v90 internal modem ISA
>
> Diamond Netcommander ISDN terminal adapter ISA
>
>
> thanks in advance
>
>



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From: Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,ucb.os.linux
Subject: Linux is not detecting my HD cache correctly
Date: 29 Jul 1999 05:50:51 GMT

Hello, I have just noticed that Linux (v2.2.10) detects only 80kb of
cache on my 6GB Quantum Fireball SE hard drive:

hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL SE6.4A, 6149MB w/80kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63, (U)DMA

The manufacturer claims that this drive has 128kb of cache.
Is there a away for fix this?

BTW, this drive was performing great and was faster than my 3.2 GB
Western Digital ultra-ata drive, which has twice as much cache (256kb),
I was just wondering why Linux detects only 80kb of cache on the first HD.

-- 
Akop Pogosian

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Kent Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers.monitors,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: FS: 5 Digital vrt19-ha 19" Triniton Monitors ; $135 each
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:18:44 GMT


>However, when I received it today, I discovered that it does not have an
RZ25 as advertised...
>it has an RZ22.
>
>That's rather significant.  The RZ25 is ~425MB.  The RZ22 is ~52MB.  (Yes,
that's right, 52.)
>
>We need to work out either a disk swap, a substantial refund, or I'm going
to need to send this
>machine back.  It's useless at this price with this storage (in)capacity.


    I think we can tell where the clerical error occurred on this one, with
a 2 being confused as a 5.

    Since the error, a SCSI-2 drive of greater quality, and larger size(as
consolation) has been sent out, with the original drive being left in the
buyer's posession as further consolation(although probably not much, after
being notified of the size of it<grin>).

    The cause of this error lies in me being a clumsy schmuck, and losing
his mail in my daily pile of roughly 250 messages daily.  There could be a
definate correlation between this and those paint chips I used to munch on
when I was young.  =)

-

    Anyhow, this was taken care of last night upon recieving notification to
send the drive on, and I just noticed a letter posted on USENET(should be
one thread above).

    I just had this incredibly childish urge to sort of yell out one of
those "No, really, I'm not a crook!" type of statements.  =)

    Hope you guys will all forgive me for the obvious waste of bandwidth,
but I've never really had one of these type of letters posted about me, and
I'd hate to have my name smeared with grime, and what not.  =)


                                                        Thanks,
                                                        Kent Rankin



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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:18:56 -0500
From: jcomeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ESS Maestro sound help?

I have an integrated ESS Maestro sound chip, and while I can get it
working with OSS, I don't really feel like paying 4front the $30 bucks
for their driver (i'm a broke college student).  Can anyone tell me how
to set this card up without using oss?  I've tried kernel 2.0.36, and
several 2.2.X versions, but no dice....Thanks in advance

Joel

Please send me email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Fincher)
Subject: AMD K6-3 vs. Dual Celerons
Date: 29 Jul 1999 08:07:11 GMT

I know there was a recent huge argument in this newsgroup about this topic, but
it was huge and hard to read.  Can anyone give me (as objectively as possible)
the sides of this argument?  I'm considering both right now since Athlon costs
a wee bit too much for my taste and isn't out yet.

I do have a slight slant toward AMD (rooting for the underdog  :-) )

Thanks a bundle,
Jeremy Fincher


==================================
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From: "Kent Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers.monitors,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: Re: FS: 5 Digital vrt19-ha 19" Triniton Monitors ; $135 each
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:28:22 GMT

>    I think we can tell where the clerical error occurred on this one, with
>a 2 being confused as a 5.



    WOAH!  WOAH!  WOAH!

    Whoops, another error.  That should be the other way around... I stated
that it was an RZ25, when it was an RZ22.  That would make it a 5 being
confused as a 2.  Eek... okay, other wording:

    I had something labelled a 2, and made the mistake of getting it
backwards as a 5.

-

    Okay, it's official.  I'm dyslexic.  =P

    Anyhow, I hated to spout off in public in the first place, but I'd hate
even more at this point to somehow besmirtch that fellows name by stating
the wrong thing there(my second clerical error in the same night would have
stated that I blamed that fellow for my error; which I am currently trying
to correct).

-

    Sheesh, maybe I should just go to sleep before I cause some more harm.
=P


                                                        All apologies,
                                                        Kent Rankin



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From: Csaba Raduly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Bogus hard disk sizes from manufacturers
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:46:47 +0100

Andries Brouwer wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Ruff) writes:
> 
> : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :: What strange metric is IBM now using to compute hard disk sizes that they
> :: come up with "16.8 GB" ?
> 
> : It is called "The Marketing Unit of Disk Capacity", aka Marketing
> : {Mega,Giga}bytes.  This unit of measurement is actually very useful,
> : as it can mean whatever the manufacturer means.
> 
> So funny all of these people reacting to the original post without
> reading what he says. The original poster wondered why IBM called his
> 16907304960 byte drive a 16.8 MB drive. Good question.
> Looks like they want to be on the safe side.

They sure are. 16.8 MB is a pretty small harddisk nowadays.
> 
> Everybody reacting, like the above poster, is mistaken.
> M=1000000 is the law, is the SI standard, is the IEEE standard,
> is the ATA standard, is the SCSI standard, is used everywhere in real life.
> 

We are talking computers here, remember !

> And similarly k=1000 is the law, the standard etc.
> A km is 1000 m, a kg is 1000 g, a megawatt is 1000000 watt.
> 
> Now people bought memory modules consisting of 1024 words
> and called them "1 kiloword of memory". Not because they thought
> kilo meant 1024, but just because it sounds better than "1.024 kiloword".

I'd gladly trade 1024 words of memory for 1024 kilowords.

> Memory has become larger but still the units in which it is sold are
> almost always powers of two, and since the SI standard does not
> have any binary units we use in sloppy speech 1 MB where in reality
> we don't mean 1000000 bytes but 1048576 bytes.
> 
> Uninformed people now start to think M means 1048576.

Put me down with other uninformed people like Eric S. Raymond
See below.

[snipped]
To quote from the Jargon Lexicon:

"With units of time or things that come in powers of 10, such as money,
they retain their usual meanings of multiplication by powers of 
1000 = 10^3. But when used with bytes or other things that naturally
come 
in powers of 2, they usually denote multiplication by powers of 
1024 = 2^(10). "

"Confusing 1000 and 1024 (or other powers of 2 and 10 close in
magnitude) -- 
for example, describing a memory in units of 500K or 524K instead of
512K -- 
is a sure sign of the marketroid. One example of this: it is common 
to refer to the capacity of 3.5" microfloppies as `1.44 MB' 
In fact, this is a completely bogus number. The correct size is 1440 KB, 
that is, 1440 * 1024 = 1474560 bytes. So the `mega' in `1.44 MB' is
compounded of two `kilos', one of which is 1024 and the other of which
is 1000. 
The correct number of megabytes would of course be 1440 / 1024 = 1.40625
"

Now, since the sectors of most (99.73%) storage devices are powers of
two
(usually 512 = "half a K"), it's not unnatural to think of disk capacity
as something that *does* come in powers of two and use K=1024.

Csaba
-- 
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]            http://www.sophos.com/
US Support +1 888 SOPHOS 9            UK Support +44 1235 559933
Life is complex, with real and imaginary parts.

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From: Dirk Aust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reconstruct partition table
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:27:31 +0000

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<html>
Florian Buchholz wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi,
<p>I have lost the partition information on my second hard drive. I was
<br>wondering if anybody can tell me if and how I can restore that
<br>information. Here's what happened:
<p>The hard drive (IBM DCAS SCSI UW 4GB) had 5 partitions, all HPFS, all
of
<br>them in the extended partition. The primary partition was 8MB big and
left
<br>as it is. I wanted to make the first partition a Windows partition
because
<br>I needed some more space for games. I used Linux's cfdisk to change
the
<br>partition type from HPFS to WIN/FAT32. As I do not know how to format
<br>FAT partitions with Linux, I then booted Win98. There were now two(!)
new
<br>hard drives in the "My Computer" folder: drives E and F. The format
option
<br>for both suggested they had a capacity of 498 MB, the proper size of
the
<br>partition. I thus formated drive E. I then booted Linux to transfer
a
<br>couple of new files to the new Windows partition. However, Linux didn't
<br>give me the old partitions back but insists that there is only one
primary
<br>partition of size 4GB. I cannot boot OS2 anymore and if I boot Win98,
<br>there is neither a dive E nor a drive F.
<p>I would appreciate any help as how I can get the partition information
<br>back, or at least if I can rescue some of my data from the other four
HPFS
<br>partitions.
<p>Thanks,
<p>Florian</blockquote>
Sorry but in my opinion there is no way reconstructing the partition table
but you can use mkfs.msdos to create FAT filesystems with LINUX.
<pre>--&nbsp;
==========================================
Dirk-Rolf Aust, Design Engineer
==========================================</pre>
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From: Robert C Flisik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: IBM Netfinity 5500 and Caldera 2.2 Problems
Date: 28 Jul 1999 22:31:20 GMT

We have Netfinity 5500's and would like to move from NT to Linux. We 
purchased the 2.2 distribution of Caldera. Each time we try to load in the 
install, the system will hang at the load kernel message. Afterwords a hard 
reboot is required.
We have tried the shipped install floppy, and well as LISA - both with 
similar results - a lock up at the LILO message.
We would like to use the Caldera distribution, but I have read that RedHat 
does support the ServeRaid II controller in the Netfinity series. Can 
anyone help?

Details:
450 PII, 128MB, (2) 9GB drives.

Thanks in Advance,
Bob Flisik

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From: Dirk Aust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video Capture Card:
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:24:12 +0000

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<html>
J'mes Pallack wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I got a old Creative Labs, Inc. "Video Blaster" 3
composit camera
<br>capture card.&nbsp; It's WIn 3.1 compatable w/that software they include,
<br>also specs 15meg RAM limit.
<p>Model # CT 6000
<p>A friend pointed me to a web site (
<br><a 
href="http://atlantek.com.au/USERS/wes/linux/frame.html">http://atlantek.com.au/USERS/wes/linux/frame.html</a>)
but didn't find it
<br>listed there usefull for this card :-(
<p>The other idea is to use a camera switcher with ALARM inputs and use
a
<br>PC card, or lpt port to controll which camera is activated at any one
<br>time (e.g. www.jameco.com part #K8000 Inteface kit, has like 16 inputs
<br>and 16 outputs and is feed though via&nbsp; Printer port)&nbsp; Then
the single
<br>capture card can capture each image, post the image (where ever,
<br>website, local network, etc) and then move to the next camera.&nbsp;
The
<br>input of the controller if available to alos act as an alarm input.
<p>I'd like to set this up on a single LINUX machine, that also acts as
a
<br>File Server, perhaps handle the I-net connection (1 or 2 lines (Mpp))
<br>depending apon demand, fax receive, printer server, etc. (all in one)
<br>This machine would be just for one person perhaps two so not really
<br>concerned about delay that much. Camera would be low priority setting
<br>anyway.
<p>any ideas
<br>THx
<p>&nbsp; O /
<br>---X----------------------------------------
<br>&nbsp; O \
<br>Do NOT send junk email to me - consider this an official notice: "By
US
<br>Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meets the
<br>definition of a telephone fax machine.&nbsp; By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it
is
<br>unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment.&nbsp;
By
<br>Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable
<br>by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater,
<br>for each violation."</blockquote>
You should have a look at the card itself if there is something on it like
Bt848/849 or something like this you may use the bttv driver which should
included in the 2.2 kernel sources, inside these files you can try to find
out the home page of the bttv driver, there you will find a more recent
version.
<pre>--&nbsp;
==========================================
Dirk-Rolf Aust, Design Engineer
==========================================</pre>
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From: Robert C Flisik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Caldera 2.2 and IBM Nefinity 5500
Date: 28 Jul 1999 22:31:19 GMT

I have an IBM Netfinity 5500 (450 PII, 128MB, on board RAID), and I have 
attempted the install from the CD. It fails to load the kernel, and hangs.
I have also tried the floppy, with about the same results.
I downloaded the LISA floppy image, same results.

Repeated inquiries to both Caldera and IBM have produced no results. I know 
that RH 6.0 can be made to support the RAID controller, but has anyone done 
this on Caldera 2.2?

Thanks


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From: Dirk Aust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,ucb.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux is not detecting my HD cache correctly
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:32:21 +0000

Akop Pogosian wrote:

> Hello, I have just noticed that Linux (v2.2.10) detects only 80kb of
> cache on my 6GB Quantum Fireball SE hard drive:
>
> hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL SE6.4A, 6149MB w/80kB Cache, CHS=784/255/63, (U)DMA
>
> The manufacturer claims that this drive has 128kb of cache.
> Is there a away for fix this?
>
> BTW, this drive was performing great and was faster than my 3.2 GB
> Western Digital ultra-ata drive, which has twice as much cache (256kb),
> I was just wondering why Linux detects only 80kb of cache on the first HD.
>
> --
> Akop Pogosian
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This seems to be normal, the 128kB means that there is a chip with 128kB
inserted in the drive but the firmware of the drive needs also some memory,
this is the difference in memory.

--
==========================================
Dirk-Rolf Aust, Design Engineer
==========================================




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: 
linux.dev.c-programming,linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux.development.system,linux.dev.scsi
Subject: Re: Linux SCSI Performance Issues
Date: 29 Jul 1999 09:59:41 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Dimi Shahbaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
> My question is regarding linux (2.0.36) SCSI performance degredation
> when we add disks to the SCSI bus. We are getting  some strange results
> with regards to performance degredation as the number of scsi disks on
> the same SCSI bus goes from 1 to 4 disks.  Sorry for the attachments,
> but it is the best way to explain whats happening.  Our test program
> seeks  and reads random sectors all across the disk(s) and prints out
> the histogram of the number of calls that took  X microseconds (which is
> the x axis).  The test was run for 30 minutes.  Multiple disks are
> accessed at the same time through the use of concurrently running
> threads, each handling IO on one disk.  We tried the test on kernel
  ^^^^^^^^
> version 2.2.10 but got similar results.

I think that what you're coming up against is not caused by the
SCSI subsystem, but by the fact you're using threads. Try to run
the test with multiple processes, instead of multiple threads.

-- 
Stefaan
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