Linux-Hardware Digest #369, Volume #12 Tue, 29 Feb 00 03:13:06 EST
Contents:
Can't find RPMS or base (Marc Toenyan)
Re: Need help on using Xerox laser printer :( (Mike Tuthill)
Re: Mouse USB help. (Hamid Misnan)
Re: KUDZU - Auto Hardware Detection [FAILED] (Fahd Sultan)
USR 56K FAX weirdness (Chris Ott)
Re: ASUS P3C2000 (Mark)
Re: Linux sucks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux sucks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need help with SCSI CD-Rom burner ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: TNT2 Clock Utility - Detonator 3.76 (Sven Bovin)
Quantum KX Hard Drives and Lilo Problem (Scott Fraser)
Re: heating linux (Sven Bovin)
Re: Partitions partitions partitions (hotties)
Re: Tape Drive backup for RH linux 6.1 (hotties)
Re: heating linux (Michael Hofmann)
KDE SOUND PROBLEM ("Jarek \"Krusher\" Onuszko")
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From: Marc Toenyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't find RPMS or base
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:12:37 -0800
First, thanks for reading this. This is my first attempt at installing
Redhat 6.1.
Problem: Installer says Can't find installation files...(or something to
that effect).
My system: 10gb IDE hdd with 4 partitions -W98 on first 650mb FAT16
-NT
4.0 on second NTFS
-Files FAT32
-\Redhat\RPMS and \Redhat\base
Steps taken: Boot from boot disk (boot.img). Loads Installer, select
expert, choose language, etc....given choice for location: \dev\hda1,
\dev\hda2, \dev\hda3, \dev\hda4. I select \dev\hda4 and then the error
comes up. The partition with the Redhat files on it is FAT16, created
with PartitionMagic. Is there a boundry limitation on the hdd? I found
nothing in the manual stating where the installation files needed to be,
only the size. In my case, the installation files are on a 1.4gb
partition, which is at the end of the drive.
Thanks again for any help!
-Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Tuthill)
Subject: Re: Need help on using Xerox laser printer :(
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:17:10 GMT
On 28 Feb 100 15:27:03 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>does anyone know, how cuold i reach my
>Xerox Docuprint p8e laser in printing
>docs other than plain text?
>Is there any 'driver' written/available on the net?
>(For instance in StarOffice or WP8)
>many thanks for suggestions
I have the Xerox Docuprint P12 and it emulates the HP IIP. Perhaps
yours does too. Check your printer manual. Unfortunately you only
get 300x300 with the HP driver.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamid Misnan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Mouse USB help.
Date: 28 Feb 2000 12:23:30 GMT
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:55:24 -0500, Kevin Walter Rogovin wrote:
>Hi All,
>
> I recently got a USB Logitech mouse, and had wanted to know if it
>was posiible to use it under LINUX, specifically RedHat V6.0.... I was
>hoping to use it as a USB device, rather than setting up the mouse as a
>ps/2 mouse... I was under the impression that if a mouse could be used as
>USB, or ps/2, one should go for USB (atleast for Win9x) so I was wondering
>if I could get the mouse to work under Linux/Xfree86 using the USB
>interface... anyone know if this is possible, and if so how? Thanks in
>advance.
You need to get the latest USB backport from www.linux-usb.org. And yes, you
need to have 2.2.14 for that.. the backport is made against 2.2.14 source code.
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|Mohd Hamid Misnan | ABAPer for hire! | AMD-Linux & iMac Bondi Blue RevB |
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- 0 and 1. Now what could be so hard about that?
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From: Fahd Sultan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KUDZU - Auto Hardware Detection [FAILED]
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:37:47 GMT
I fail to see the point to Kudzu. why is it there. anytime i install new
hardware I just compile support for it into the kernel. I'f i'm missing
the point will someone please point it out to me.
thanks
fooie
Neil, I apologize for not answering your question.
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From: Chris Ott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR 56K FAX weirdness
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:40:12 GMT
Hi.
I just received a brand, spankin' new USR modem today, and I spent the
entire day setting up a Red Hat 6.1 machine to receive faxes with Mgetty
(1.1.24, I think). I was not terribly successful.
The fax initialization stuff in Mgetty doesn't seem to work for USR
modems, which doesn't surprise me, considering all the negative comments
I've seen about them on the Internet. Looking in the Mgetty log files, I
would see the modem initialized with "+FCLASS=2.0", etc., and the modem
would answer "OK" to all the settings. Then, when I tried to send a fax
to the modem (from an actual fax machine), it would answer, but it
refused to go into fax mode. It just came back with "NO CARRIER". I
tried all sorts of settings, but none helped.
I am a programmer, so I decided to take a whack at making some changes.
Much frustration, things breaking, etc. Finally, after about 8 hours of
trying to get this to work, I found the problem. USR modems (mine, at
least) apparently need to have fax mode set up *after* they get a
"RING". Now the thing answers faxes with no trouble.
Mgetty's normal sequence of events is:
Initialize modem (from computer)
AT+FCLASS=2.0,etc. (from computer)
...wait for call...
RING (from modem)
ATA (from computer)
modem answers.
I changed it to be:
Initialize modem (from computer)
...wait for call...
RING (from modem)
AT+FCLASS=2.0,etc. (from computer)
ATA (from computer)
modem answers.
If I don't set up fax mode *after* the "RING", the modem won't receive a
fax.
Now, I've been battling stubborn modems for a long time, now, and this
just doesn't seem right to me. So, my question is, is this normal, or am
I missing something, or should I go out and just buy a new modem?
Thanks,
Chris
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From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS P3C2000
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:46:32 GMT
I've got one of those boards, but I just blew the linux part away.
Had to use the space to move windows off, so I could reinstall it.
(and then move data back) (games!)
I'll be putting it back on later this week. (having probs with
the CDR and the MX300)
Once I put it back, I'll let y'allknow how it works.
Ranaur, "the Elven Warlock!" wrote:
> > Has anyone had experience with the ASUS P3C2000 motherboard, yet? I'm
> > looking to buy a system (probably a PIII 500), and need to decide
> > between the P3C2000 and the P3B-F.
> >
> I've the very same question. I decided to the P3BF. P3C2000 has the 820
> chipset. I haven't found anything about it in the kernel's sources. Not
> even a mention.
> The main difference between the two is:
> P3C2000 is ATA66 and P3BF is not: forget about a stable ATA66
>support on
> linux for, at least some months.
> 1330MHz bus versus 100MHz bus: is you have a Pentuim II slower than
> 600MHz you won't use all of the 133MHz anyway.
>
> So, whan I change my FIC SD11/Athlon for a PentiumIII system, I'll go to a
> P3BF. But it's just my opinion. :-)
>
> R.
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:54:14 GMT
On 28 Feb 2000 20:41:49 GMT, the Evil [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vincent
Fox) screamed:
>>Of course, the *essence* of Linux is to be FREE...
>
>*snip*
>Or perhaps, the *essence* of Linux is to be OPEN....
This is the legality of trying to be FREE in a vulgar society where
the price of everything is known -- but value is cynically seen as a
joke.
>>The fact that we NOW have an alternative (and FREE at that!), is why
>>people are today coming out of the woodwork to say publicly that *the
>>Emperor has no clothes*.
>
>I disagree, Eric Raymond has it much better in his book
>the Cathedral and the Bazaar. It's not ACTUALLY about it
>being free. It's about it being OPEN.
I've read enough of that document not to be too impressed with this
part of the reasoning (the technical side of it is what is important).
It seems typically libertarian (translation: politically naive).
>There was a Free Software Foundation for many years before
>the current new wave of Open Source community developers.
And this is where much of the recent impetus for all this comes from.
>FSF never really got the penetration that the Open Source
>movement has, due it still being essentially tightly controlled
>by the FSF. The Open Source movement has no center, other than
>perhaps Linus who still has pretty good control of the kernel
>itself.
Again: an historical process, with a, uh, more 'primitive'
precursor...
:>
>But the Open Source community never founded itself on the ideal
>that all software is free. It is not unreasonable that a programmer
>should expect to get paid for manhours of work. Very few work for free.
I understand the sentiment, but this is still all about a public
resource.
My own choice is that programmers be remunerated from a common pool of
funds for their public efforts -- but this is not feasible in the
present ugly climate of selfish self-promotion.
>The *essence* of Linux is to be OPEN.
>
>It may also be free, or it may have charges for support if
>that is what the users want. The user can choose.
Geeze. We are so lucky to have so much Choice in our 'consumer'
society...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:59:33 GMT
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:12:41 GMT, the Evil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(JEDIDIAH) screamed:
>>But the Open Source community never founded itself on the ideal
>>that all software is free. It is not unreasonable that a programmer
>>should expect to get paid for manhours of work. Very few work for free.
>
> Furthermore, it is not entirely unreasonable to expect
> that genuine creativity would be rewarded for a time.
> It's just that this time should be limited to a reasonable
> amount relative to the technology and that the 'invention'
> should be fully disclosed after that.
>
> This hasn't been happening. 'open' software serves to help
> undo the imbalance caused by the manner in which copyrights
> and patents are currently handled.
What's missing in most of this discussion is the structural nature of
all this. It won't happen EVER if left up to the 'suits'.
If these are now shmoozing geeks, the geeks had better beware of suits
bearing gifts...
> In a more perfect world, it would be redundant and unecessary.
It's about who controls things. There are huge forces at work trying
to tie everything down, but these forces are mortal, and can be
replaced at any time given different circumstances.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need help with SCSI CD-Rom burner
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:04:11 GMT
Dances With Crows wrote:
> If you knew the first error message wasn't a problem, why'd you post it
> and not the second error message?
The second error message was posted, I'm not sure why you didn't see
it..
> Anyway, what happens when you try this?:
> # mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 -o ro /mnt/cdrom
>
> That should give a more illuminating error message and rule out
> permission problems or /etc/fstab as a source of problems. The line in
> your /etc/fstab should be like so:
> /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0
>
> Or try /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/scd0 ? They're supposed to point to the
> same place, but sometimes one works and the other doesn't.
Tried mounting with the readonly command. Still gives error message
`wrong fs type, bad superblock' etc..
> Also, you should have a look at /var/log/dmesg and make sure that your
> CD-RW is getting recognized as an IDE-SCSI device. If you have IDE CD-ROM
> support compiled, you may have to pass the "hdX=ide-scsi" option to the
> kernel at boot time so the IDE driver doesn't grab the CD and refuse to
> let go.
I checked dmesg, this is everything it referenced to SCSI:
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
scsi0 : AdvanSys SCSI 3.2F: PCI Ultra 240 CDB: IO EC00/F, IRQ 11
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: MATSHITA Model: CD-R CW-7502 Rev: 3.02
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 8x/8x writer xa/form2 cdda tray
Now the second part of that is where I start to get a little lost.
Haven't had a whole lot of expirience(sp) with kernel's yet. I do have
an IDE CD-ROM on my system (Creative 32X), could that affect it?
Thanks,
Carl
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From: Sven Bovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
Subject: Re: TNT2 Clock Utility - Detonator 3.76
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:14:49 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/28/00
> at 08:45 PM, Anton Deguet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >for (i = 0; i < 100; i++) {
> > printf(" a number %f\n", 0.0 + i * 0.01);
> >}
>
> >Would become in french
>
> >pour (i = 0; i < 100; i++) {
> > afficherf(" un nombre %f\r". 0,0 + i * 0,01);
> >}
>
> I'm not picking; just trying to understand:
> In the French case would the separator after " %f\r" really be a period?
> Or would it be a comma? My understanding is that for numbers the European
> convention is 1.000,00 whereas the Anglo-Saxon convention is 1,000.00.
> But the grammatical usage of commas and periods are the same: we both use
> commas to separate phrases and periods to end sentences. The above
> example looks more like a semantical separation rather than a numerical
> one.
>
> Take care,
> Duane
Your right about that convention, but imagine the mess if
a computer were to perform lexical analysis on source code
before compiling ... ;^)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Fraser)
Subject: Quantum KX Hard Drives and Lilo Problem
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:23:04 GMT
Evening All,
I have run into a snag while installing Linux on a box with Quantum KX 13.6 Gig
harddrives.
Here's the system:
AMD K-6/2 400
Asus P5A Mainboard
Dual Quantum KX 13.G Gig hard drives 7200
3Com 905b-TX nic
ATI Expert99 128 Rage Pro
No matter what flavor of Linux I install, in order to get the system to boot I have to
use a Red Hat 6.1 boot disk (the one made during an install of 6.1). I have tried the
following flavors:
Storm Linux 2000
SuSe 6.2
Red Hat 6.0
Red Hat 6.1
The installs go great until the restart. After it posts all I get is LI at the prompt.
I have tried a varity of boot partition sizes and still no luck. First I tried 400
megs, then 300, then 200 and last 1000 for /
I have Red Hat 6.1 installed with Kernel 2.2.15-2.5.0, the latest release of Lilo and
nothing. I really wold like to get this damn thing working. Have already gone through
all the FAQs, HowTos, etc.
Cheers,
Don't forget tpo remove "REMOVE" when responding via email.
Thanx in advance folks.
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From: Sven Bovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: heating linux
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:27:33 +0100
"Robert W. Cunningham" wrote:
>
> Paul Ingram wrote:
>
> > Are there any clever academic types out there who know how to work out
> > the heat output (in watts) of a computer system
> > given certain parameters (psu wattage, current rating, etc.) ?
> >
> > I looked at various specs of various bits of h/w but none give a heat
> > output figure..................
>
> ALL (100%) of the energy that goes into a computer goes out as HEAT.
>
> This equation tells us all we need to know:
>
> Power (watts) = Voltage (volts) x Current (amps)
Almost correct, you seem to forget a factor 1/sqrt[2]
here.
Your formula gives the instantaneous power (P = i V) while
the mean power is P = i V / sqrt[2] (the factor 1/sqrt[2]
arises from the fact that you have a AC circuit up to the
power supply in the computer).
> Generally, US wall outlet voltage is 115 VAC. Using an ammeter, measure
The original poster is from the UK (at least, he has a
.co.uk
email adress), so I guess he has a wall outlet voltage of
240 V nominally (+/- 5% is the usual tollerance). V(max)
is
sqrt[2] x 240 V = +/- 340 V.
> the current entering the PC. While this can be done using an in-line
> ammeter, for safety I recommend using a clamp-on ammeter. The current on
> the "hot" side of the line should be measured. Be sure the ammeter is
> set to display the "RMS" or "AC" value. If you only have a peak-reading
> ammeter, then multiply the peak value by .707 to get the RMS value (valid
> only for sine waves, which is what we have here).
Oops, sorry should have read a bit further before I wrote
the above. Here's my factor 1/sqrt[2].
> My PC pulls just under 2A of current (1.89A), which means I'm dissipating
> about 200 watts. Since I have a Cyrix processor and couple of older SCSI
> disk drives you can fry eggs on, my power consumption may not be
> typical. I expect most other systems would consume something closer to
> 100 watts.
>
> Some top-end power supplies contain monitoring circuitry that eliminates
> the need for an external ammeter, and allows the computer to monitor its
> own power consumption. This feature is often needed for high-reliability
> systems, so that pending failures can be handled gracefully.
> Unfortunately, there is no standard interface for such monitoring, though
> the closest thing to it is the UPS monitoring interface. And there are
> some power supplies that also contain full (but small) UPS capability.
> But they co$t.
>
> Of course, if you have APM or ACPI enabled, the power consumption will
> not be constant, and you may need to disable power management to
> determine your system's maximum sustained power consumption.
>
> -BobC
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Subject: Re: Partitions partitions partitions
From: hotties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:48:57 -0800
My experienece in the past tells me that you have to partition
the 98 to the size you want. Then load linux with LILO boot on
the rest of the disk. Windows has to have the first boot sector
on you HDD. With running LILO as you boot MGR if you will, it
will allow you to decide on what OS you want to run. I hope this
helps.
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Subject: Re: Tape Drive backup for RH linux 6.1
From: hotties <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:44:45 -0800
I was just going to ask the same question. If you have any info
please share. I am also hosting a few sites need a tape or dat
drive very soon. I priced out a few of them, the HP 8gig is
arround $200 and they go on up to $2500. Non of the guys at any
of the stores I have visited know their ass from a hot rock.
Their answer is always I know it works for windows. A lot of
good that does. Please some help us out...
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From: Michael Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: heating linux
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:56:35 +0100
"Robert W. Cunningham" wrote:
>
> This equation tells us all we need to know:
>
> Power (watts) = Voltage (volts) x Current (amps)
>
NO. Don't confuse people with wrong assumptions. Your formula holds true
for DC ONLY, which is NOT what we have in the case of a PC power supply.
It runs on AC. This means that you have to take the phase angle (Phi)
between Voltage and Current into account.
Peff = V x I x (cos Phi)
To measure the Phase angle you need to have a phase meter (or power
factor meter, which = cos Phi).
To further complicate things, the above formula holds true for
sinusoidal signals only, which is not the case for PC power supplies
either, since those are switching supplies and therefore do not draw
sinusoidal current (unless you have a power factor corrected PS).
To measure the power in this case you have to integrate Volts and Amps
for a certain amount of time (I will not go into the mathematical
details here), or just simply use a power meter that's designed to do
this job.
> My PC pulls just under 2A of current (1.89A), which means I'm dissipating
> about 200 watts. Since I have a Cyrix processor and couple of older SCSI
> disk drives you can fry eggs on, my power consumption may not be
> typical. I expect most other systems would consume something closer to
> 100 watts.
What you're measuring here is the Apparent Power, which is NOT related
to the dissipated heat.
I'd be surprised if your PC really takes 200 W of effective power.
My box at home (AMD K6-3 400, 2* EIDE HD, 2* CDROM; SB, 3D video card,
Network card) draws about 60 Watts effective power, depending on
performed task. This is measured with a power meter. If it would draw
200 Watts effective I wouldn't need a heater in my room, and the CPU
would probably be melting away....
(BTW, my box draws approx. 0.9A; at 230V this equates to 207 W apparent
power)
Michael
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From: "Jarek \"Krusher\" Onuszko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE SOUND PROBLEM
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:11:18 GMT
yo !
i've got a aureal 8820 based soundcard, after installing au drivers from
linux.aureal.com everything seemed to work fine, but i've discovered that
sound in KDE isn't working. i'm talking bout the system sounds (for example
x11amp works fine), when I start X-windows I get an error
(/etc/sysconfig/sound does not exist or sth. like that) HELP
Krusher, Poland
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