Linux-Hardware Digest #369, Volume #14           Mon, 19 Feb 01 13:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Eric P. McCoy)
  Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards ("JP")
  Re: SCSI discs  with SUSE 7 (Michael Heiming)
  Re: pci LOGITECH mouse ("Y2Kok")
  Re: Bass/Treble in Mixers Possible w/Soundblaster 16 PCI (Edward Westin)
  Re: Bass/Treble in Mixers Possible w/Soundblaster 16 PCI (Edward Westin)
  AD1885 sound card (Esther Klabbers)
  Soundblaster PCI 16 Bass/Treble in Mixers, Please Confirm (Edward Westin)
  Re: Anyone using a Matrox G450 with 2 Monitors? (Walter van der Schee)
  Re: Dual monitors -- how? preconfigured? (Ken Roberts)
  ISDN TA and USB ("Darren Davison")
  Slackware 7.1 install problem (Eric Ho)
  Modem found, but doesn't initialize (Clemson Tiger)
  hard disk problem (Vijay S Dhaka)
  A7V w. 53C810 SCSI (Thomas Eifert)
  Conexant HCF Modem Driver? (Kuehn Tino)
  RH 7.0 & NE2000 clone (Phil Galbiati)
  Modem question (jalil)
  Re: Modem found, but doesn't initialize (jalil)
  Re: TV-out for Geforce2 in XFree 4.02...? (Nikola Milosavljevic)

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Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 19 Feb 2001 08:20:41 -0500

"Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >For my personal situation, I am guaranteed to encounter a
> >non-recoverable data error about every year, for each disk.  With two
> >disks in a RAID0 array, I'd get twice the number of errors in the same
> >amount of time.

> Well,  the rate per terabyte read would still be the same.  So twice as fast
> gets one to an error sooner but that's an advantage and not a disadvantage.
> Such errors can appear for both SCSI or EIDE single drives or RAID 0.  Now
> what are the undetected and unrecoverable error rates for a RAID 1 array or
> RAID 5 array?

For RAID1, presumably half as much.  For RAID5, actually, wouldn't it
be constant no matter the number of disks in the array?

> >I have _already_ suffered data errors on _both_ disks in this
> >computer, and one disk is less than a month old.  While it seems like
> >I've gotten some flakey hardware, I think it should still serve to
> >show that the likelihood of failure is _not_ small.

> No,  it just shows that you should get a professional to configure your
> machines next time.

When you have some basis for insulting my technical abilities, I'd
like to hear it.

In the meantime, I've been doing this sort of thing for the past 12
yeears, and have never had serious problems until now.  I've gotten
more data corruption in the past six months than I have in the
previous 11.5 years.  That doesn't suggest anything about flakey
hardware to you, but instead suggests incompetence on my part?

[...]
> Every book an RAID says that striping is called RAID 0...get a clue.

Let me see if I have our positions right:

1. I say that while RAID0 is certainly a RAID level, it should not,
   quite technically, be one, as it is not actually redundant.
2. You admit that this is the case, but point out that RAID0 is a RAID
   level.

I fail to see where we differ in our positions.  Christ, I wasn't
aware I was making a significant point.  I was just using it to
explain away a person's misconception that RAID0 is as reliable as
other RAID levels (thinking that the `R' in there might have confused
him).

Apparently, people are taking personal offense at this, some (such as
you) to the point that they feel compelled to make personal attacks on
me.  Fine; if you like, you may have the last word.  I refuse to get
sucked into another stupid pedantic USENET argument more than I have
been already.

-- 
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation."  - Something Awful, 1/11/2001

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From: "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:32:29 -0000

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:fMRj6.467$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of shopping around to upgrade my system. I currently
have a
> P-120 with an ATI Mach64 card, a couple of IDE drives, Creative Labs 8x CD
and
> a Soundblaster card (don't remember what but it's PnP/PCI).
>
> I want to upgrade to an Athlon 1GHz and 512MB of memory. I'm trying to
figure
> out if I should go with an ASUS or an ABit board. I'm also going to get a
> Thunderbird CPU. I see that there have been a flurry of newer boards from
ASUS
> and ABit. Has anyone purchased those noards? What type of problems (if
any)
> did you have?
>
> I'm also going to buy an IBM Deskstar 45 or 70GB drive. In certain posts
I've
> seen that the drive can cause a problem. If it matters any, I plan on
> installing Mandrake 7.2.
>
> Will I be able to keep some of the hardware from the old system? What type
of
> hardware will I be able to keep?

I'm going thru the same process at the moment and have found the following
to be quite useful;
    http://www.tomshardware.com
    http://hardocp.com

There are many other sites but these cover most information you'll need.

Personally, I'd go for the ABit KT7A-RAID (may not use the RAID but wanted
the extra IDE ports!) and will be using a Duron 750Mhz due to the cost, I
will be using my existing CDROM, IDE disks, Sound/Graphics/network cards and
also using one of my PC133 128Mb sticks. Why the ABit? well the price is
quite good, they are well made and have had good reviews, also, the
newsgroups are quite busy which means there is always help around if needed.

At the end of the day, you will need to look at what you want to get out of
the system before deciding on the board to use.

HTH,

JP




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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCSI discs  with SUSE 7
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:36:47 +0100

syco wrote:

> I can't see my SCSI discs  with SUSE 7.
>
> I have a pentium 133 with 3 IDE discs + CDROM, and 2 SCSI discs on Adaptec
> AHA1540B card.
> Impossible to see my discs SCSI under Linux.
> I would like to try to give the params to the demarrage,
> because with Loadlin not average to arrive there
> - I tried " Loadlin root =aha1542=0x230 " (IO of my card):  nothing is seen.
>    There is not even a  message, while  booting, about loading aha1542.
>
>       Under linux, no success :
> - I tried insmod aha1542=0x230  :syntax does not pass, " aha1542=0x230 "
> unknown
> - I tried insmodaha1542 iobase=0x230:  syntax does not pass, param_iobase
> unknow
> - I tried insmod aha1542 io=0x230:  syntax does not pass, param_iounknown
>
> How I can do that cleanly ?  ( I am not an expert! )
>

Don't use insmod try:

modprobe  -v aha1542

man modprobe for more info

Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/modules.txt (comes with every kernel tarball)

gives some info how loadable modules work/setup.

>
> Thanks.
> --
> SYCO
> de Sycoweb
> ( BROCANTES DU NORD-EST http://www.chez.com/sycoweb/puces/index.htm )
> - Let me Alone but not Forever -

Good luck

Michael Heiming



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From: "Y2Kok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pci LOGITECH mouse
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:39:46 +0200

I meant ps/2, sorry,....

Y2Kok wrote in message <96qq15$s53$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>hi
>i cant make my mouse work properly on RH6.
>once  i start GDE my mouse glues to the upper right corner. although i can
>move
>the mouse it moves back to the corner....
>any problem solvations are welcome
>thanx
>
>



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From: Edward Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bass/Treble in Mixers Possible w/Soundblaster 16 PCI
Date: 19 Feb 2001 08:03:51 -0800

While I haven't used this sound card  running Windows,I suspect
that you are probably right and the Ensoniq 1371 driver may not be
supporting these "features".  I have confirmation that the Creative
Soundblaster Live 512 provides both base and treble in the the mixers
without any extra efforts. Thank you for taking the time to reply. 




"lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is probably a feature that your windows drivers do in software.
> Since the source for those drivers is never going to be released, and
> implementing it without that source would require much effort for relatively
> little gain, the linux drivers don't have this feature.  
>  
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edward Westin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have an inexpensive Creative Soundblaster 16 PCI running w/Red Hat
> > 7.0 and Yamaha YSTM-50 (2 speakers woofer) but am unable to adjust
> > treble at all).  Red Had recognizes the card as an Ensoniq 1371. Is it
> > possible at all to achieve bass and treble contols in linux???  Would it
> > become possible if I moved up to a Soundblaster Live card?  None of the
> > 5 or so (including aumix) mixers in KDE or Gnome provide bass or treble
> > controls.  The controls for volume etc. work fine though.
> > 
> > Any comments would be most welcome.
> > 
> > Best, Ed Westin
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> PC Chips actually goes by many names. PCChips = Ability = Alton = Amptron = 
> Aristo = Asia Gate = Asiatech = Assa = Atrend = Elpina = Eurone = Fugu = 
> Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple = 
> PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed

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From: Edward Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bass/Treble in Mixers Possible w/Soundblaster 16 PCI
Date: 19 Feb 2001 08:08:42 -0800

Unfortunately the Soundblaster Live 512 costs $100 which I don't
really feel like paying (yet :-) ).  I wonder if anyone can confirm
that the  the Creative Soundblaster 16 PCI works with both bass and
treble.  Thanks.

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From: Esther Klabbers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AD1885 sound card
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:19:43 +0100

I've recently installed SuSE Linux 6.4 on my new PC (Dell Optiplex
GX115). However, the sound card is not detected automatically.
'alsaconf' does not recognize it either. The
audio controller is: Analog Devices AD1885 AC97 Codec

Does anyone know how to set it up? 

I have tried downloading the new alsa drivers from www.alsa-project.org
but when compiling them I get the error: 

sound_oss.c:27: #error "Enable the OSS soundcore multiplexer
(CONFIG_SOUND) in the kernel."
make[1]: *** [sound_oss.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eklabber/alsa-driver-0.5.10b/kernel'
make: *** [compile] Error 1

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From: Edward Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Soundblaster PCI 16 Bass/Treble in Mixers, Please Confirm
Date: 19 Feb 2001 08:38:16 -0800

Has anyone gotten the Creative Soundblaster PCI 16 working with
bass/treble contols available in the mixers.  If so how was it done.
My card is working perfectly in Red Hat 7 with the exception of no
tone controls on any of the about 5 mixers that I have tried.  Thanks
for any feedback.

Best,
Ed Westin

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From: Walter van der Schee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone using a Matrox G450 with 2 Monitors?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:17:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John wrote:

> I'm planning to buy a system next week and I want to get this card. I was
> wondering what had to be done to a RedHat 7.0 system in order to make this
> card work with 2 monitors?

Check out the new BETA drivers on www.matrox.com

Also a very useful readme.txt file is on their ftp server.

It has detailed information on how to setup Xinerama (dual and
multi-head setups) On both Matrox G450 and other cards like
multiple G200 PCI's.

Good luck!

Greets,

Walter


PS: My setup includes a G450 with 2 17" monitors in 1280x1024.

If you'd like I can send you my XF86Config file....

Will be in the weekends though, I don't have access to my
machine at home during week days.

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From: Ken Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual monitors -- how? preconfigured?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 06:58:01 -0800

<deleted>

>
> Does that mean you can drag windows between monitors?
>

Xinerama in X 4.x makes both graphics cards appear as 1 huge monitor.

Since I have my windows setup at 1024x768, Xinerama gives me 1 desktop that's
2048x768 in size, so yes you can drag between both monitors.

- Ken


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From: "Darren Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISDN TA and USB
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:59:55 -0000

hi,

**
TurboLinux 6.0 distro
kernel 2.4.1 (with ISDN and USB sub-systems compiled in)
pppd-2.4
BT Speedway ISDN TA
**

I have a PPP link setup which works great with an analog modem and will
autodial as required for the other machines on my small LAN which use it as
a gateway.

I'd really like to use my ISDN TA (external unit) in place of the analog
modem either using the serial port or (preferably) the USB connection.
However, despite trawling through the scant information in the ISDN and USB
how-to's, and spending days searching the web and usenet archives, I am no
closer to getting this to work.  Is there a *good* source of info that
simply tells me what I need to do to achieve my goals here, or could some
kind soul who's been through the pain of this one and got it working share
that knowledge??

Be *very* grateful!

Attempts so far include:
using the TurboLinux config utils to set the ISDN connection (result:
settings are saved as entered, but the dial-script fails)

talking to the TA as a normal modem through minicom using the AT commands
(result: minicom can't initialize the TA using any combination of commands
and I can't type anything into the minicom interface.)

following the USB guide (result: the numbered directories under
/proc/bus/usb never appear and the command 'mknod /dev/usb/ttyACM0 c 166 0'
result in errors which the guide doesn't cater for)


Regards,
DD



------------------------------

From: Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slackware 7.1 install problem
Date: 19 Feb 2001 17:16:06 GMT

Hi,

I am trying to install Slackware 7.1 on my PC on the third hard
disk, but I couldn't get LILO to work correctly.
Configuration :
Primary Master   : 1.7G (Win98, FAT 32)
Primary Slave    : 3.2G (Win98, FAT 32)
Secondary Master : CD ROM
Secondary Slave  : 13G (Linux)

The 13G hard disk is dedicated for Linux, only 2 partitions are
created : / and swap (150M or so).

I think the LILO version is new enough to handle >1024 cylinder,
it is version 21.6-1, but I am not sure about my motherboard.
It is a very old ASUS T2P4
It is a very old ASUS T2P4 (bios 0207 beta 2) running a K6-2 450
with 128Meg RAM.

Anyway, every time I re-run LILO, it gives the following error :
Warning: BIOS drive 0x83 may not be accessible
Warning: BIOS drive 0x83 may not be accessible
Warning: BIOS drive 0x83 may not be accessible
Warning: BIOS drive 0x83 may not be accessible
Warning: BIOS drive 0x83 may not be accessible
Added linux *
Added dos

Can someone tell me if there is anything I can do ? Will it solve the
problem if I make the 13G hard disk Primary Master ?

Best Regards,
Eric Ho


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From: Clemson Tiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem found, but doesn't initialize
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:30:05 -0000


I have a Motorola Voice 56K modem, which Linux-Mandrake 7.2 recognizes 
during installation and boot.

I am trying to configure my modem to dial in "X", using kppd.  After 
configuring the modem to dial [enter ISP name, phone no., PPP 
connection, ... ] and pointing the modem to /dev/ttySx (the com port), the 
dial up screens say the modem is ready and begins 
initialization.  "Initialization" is as far as the modem gets.

When I click on modem "commands", the command screen comes up with 
commands.  When I  "query" the modem and the "ATI" screen come up, there 
are no modem commands for any of the ATI's.  Is this the problem and how 
do I fix it?

Other than the modem, the installation went well.  Of course, I have not 
tried to burn a CD yet.  

I'm an experienced MS Windows user who is trying to kick the Windows 
habit.  Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Clemson Tigers


--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: Vijay S Dhaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: hard disk problem
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:27:43 +0530


Hi ...
 I have a problem with my hard disk (Seagate Barracuda ATA II)
Sometimes when I try to copy or move some file gen greater than 2-3 mb
Suddenly the following error creeps in


hda : status times out:status=0x80 {Busy}
hda :drive not ready for command
ide0:reset timed-out ,status =0x80
......
Also If I reset the machine,the BIOS does not recognize the HD.
And I have to switch off and on the machine again in order to start the
system again..

Apart from this the HD seem to be fine and works 4 days without any
problem....

The problem seem to be not so uncommon because just searching on google
I found lot of such messages with sim.. problem but could not find a
solution

Hoping someone knows the answer
thanx in advance

dhaka



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From: Thomas Eifert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A7V w. 53C810 SCSI
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:39:00 +0100


Hi,

I have plugged my old SCSI Hardware into my new, Asus A7V based
PC.
I'm quite sure the HW setup is ok, but with Linux (SuSE 7.0)
I can't get up a driver for this SCSI Controller. The IRQ conflicts
I got resolved, but when I now come to 'modprobe' e.g. the ncr53C8xx
driver (which worked well on my old system (SuSE 6.2) I get a
bunch of weird messages (in /var/log/messages) of the type, that
some erroneous data is read by the driver, and it therefore
get a segmentation fault.

Is there anyone who has an idea ?

Thanks,
Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Kuehn Tino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Conexant HCF Modem Driver?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:39:20 +0100

does anyone know how to install an conexant hcf  56k pci modem under
2.2.17 and if there is one, where to find driver for? it works fine with
windows but there is no response under linux...
any ideas appreciated...
tino


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From: Phil Galbiati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 7.0 & NE2000 clone
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:43:42 -0800


Greetings

I have an old 486 with a Realtek 8019 ISA PnP NIC (NE2000 clone) on which
I am trying to install RH 7.0, but it asks for a driver disk, and the
driver image on the cd does not have an NE2000 driver.  This card worked
fine under RH 4.2 & 5.2 -- they didn't actually remove support for a
working card, did they?

Anyway, where do I get a driver image so I can install the OS with this
card?

Thanx

--Phil Galbiati
P.S.  Please cc me if you post a reply.


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From: jalil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem question
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:52:51 -0600

where can I find a list of excepable modem to work with linux?  Is
USrobotics one of them?


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From: jalil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem found, but doesn't initialize
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:56:26 -0600

I have the same problem.  I recently installed Mandrake 7.2 on my computer and
it stop at initialization and no more?

Clemson Tiger wrote:

> I have a Motorola Voice 56K modem, which Linux-Mandrake 7.2 recognizes
> during installation and boot.
>
> I am trying to configure my modem to dial in "X", using kppd.  After
> configuring the modem to dial [enter ISP name, phone no., PPP
> connection, ... ] and pointing the modem to /dev/ttySx (the com port), the
> dial up screens say the modem is ready and begins
> initialization.  "Initialization" is as far as the modem gets.
>
> When I click on modem "commands", the command screen comes up with
> commands.  When I  "query" the modem and the "ATI" screen come up, there
> are no modem commands for any of the ATI's.  Is this the problem and how
> do I fix it?
>
> Other than the modem, the installation went well.  Of course, I have not
> tried to burn a CD yet.
>
> I'm an experienced MS Windows user who is trying to kick the Windows
> habit.  Your help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Clemson Tigers
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/


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From: Nikola Milosavljevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TV-out for Geforce2 in XFree 4.02...?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:24:42 +0100


> The problem with TV out and the nvidia drivers is that TV out is an
>additional
>option supplied by your video card vendor and all software written to
>take
>advantage of it is also writen by said vendor with hooks into the nvidia
>driver
>supplied by nvidia for windows versions. These hooks are not availble in
>the
>linux drivers (or not documented or just plain not there). So if you want
>to
>use tv out under linux your just flat out of luck.
>
>Jim Broughton
>(The AmigaOS now there was an OS!)

  So, is there any way to use TV-out under Linux with GeForceMX
  or any other card?
 GeForce2MX introduced Twin view, so I can`t imagine Linux couldn`t
 support TV out function.
 I simpy >belive< that there is a solution.



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