Linux-Hardware Digest #419, Volume #12 Tue, 7 Mar 00 07:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: System reqs - is P166 too small/slow? (Thomas Hommel)
Running linux on new hardware (Andrew Wai)
Re: Possible to put Linux hard drive in new box????? ("Lyle R. Taylor")
Re: Hooking up a monitor to a serial port? (Thomas Hommel)
Re: Mouse USB help.
Re: Laptop for Linux - what specifications? (GarbMan)
Re: AMD and LINUX (Eric Wick)
HP DDS Tape ("Agust� Vil� i Armengou")
Accessing on-board thermometer and fan (Staffan Bruun)
Re: Voodoo III, tv-out, xf86, modeline (Andreas Neukoetter)
Re: Webgear Aviator 2.4 and RH6.1 Linux (Andreas Neukoetter)
Necesito diskettera ("Disketera par packar bell")
HP cdwriter (Filippo)
Re: Corel Linux and 3C905C Card HELP!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: on board NIC, Sound, Graphic
Re: aha152x not detected (Sascha Bohnenkamp)
Re: Looking for Win Lucent modem driver for LINUX (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Network adapter and sound card on IRQ 0 (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Rockwell HCF modem (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: System reqs - is P166 too small/slow? (Andreas Neukoetter)
Compaq 7478? (Robert Halloran)
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From: Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System reqs - is P166 too small/slow?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 09:56:45 +0100
I�m currently running Linux on a P100 with 64 Megs of RAM. I also use
KDE and it�s running at reasonable speed. I agree to Erwin when saying
that 32 Megs is quite few RAM for using KDE and apps like Netscape and
StarOffice. Perhaps you should try a more lightweight windowmanager like
fvwm and disable all daemons you don�t need.
Tom
"Erwin R�egg" schrieb:
>
> Hello
> I think 32 MB RAM is not enough to run KDE (and Netscape, and ...). I
> installed SuSE on a P133 with 32 MB, it was slow. Now I have 128 MB
> and it works fine. You still have to wait 5 - 10 seconds to start
> StarOffice. But that is reasonable.
> Regards
>
> --
> Erwin Rueegg
> Adresse: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> David Geelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > G'day all
> >
> > My weekend project was to install Corel Linux (based on Debian,
> with a
> > KDE-based interface) on my kids' computer (didn't risk doing my
> machine
> > in case of crashes!) I chose to install it in a 1GB DOS/Windows
> > partition, leaving the other 1.5 GB for Windoze so the kids can
> still
> > play their games. The machine is a P133 overclocked to 166, with 32
> M of
> > RAM.
> >
> > The Linux is horrifyingly slow: click on an icon to open a window
> and
> > then go away for 5-10 minutes while it opens - forget about
> actually
> > doing anything on it.
> >
> > I guess I'll uninstall this install tonight, 'cos it's completely
> > useless. I can then decide to do a proper dual-boot installation,
> which
> > should improve the performance, or forget the whole project, or try
> > another distribution, or... But I wanted to check first whether
> there
> > are people successfully running Linux at reasonable speeds on
> machines
> > of this size. It should be possible, shouldn't it?
> >
> > All responses, posted or mailed, will be very helpful.
> >
> > Thanx,
> >
> > David
> >
> > --
> > Dr David R Geelan
> > Edith Cowan University, 2 Bradford St, Mt Lawley WA 6050
> > Ph. 08 9370 6728, Fax 08 9370 6700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://alpha7.curtin.edu.au/~rgeeland/bravus.htm
> >
> >
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From: Andrew Wai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running linux on new hardware
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:07:03 +0800
Hi,
Has anyone install linux on any of the newer motherboards and
hardware? In particular motherboards with the i820 chipset and RIMMs
or am I better of sticking with older boards and DIMMs for the moment.
Thanks,
Andrew Wai
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From: "Lyle R. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Possible to put Linux hard drive in new box?????
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 02:08:25 -0800
It should work find, but you need to make sure that it is physically
connected the same as before. What I mean is, if it used to be /dev/hda, it
needs to stay /dev/hda, or it won't boot properly. You can get around this
by booting with a rescue disk and editing the file /etc/fstab to reflect the
new device designation of the drive (e.g., /dev/hdb), though. If you do
that, you still need to boot with a floppy disk (or CD ROM) that will let
you boot using a given partition as root. For example, many installation
disks will let you boot into your distribution by using a command like this
at the boot prompt:
boot root=/dev/hda1
where "hda1" is replace with your root partition. Once you get in, edit
/etc/lilo.conf to reflect the new device designation as in /etc/fstab and
run LILO. You should then be running fine. Linux isn't as picky about
changing machines as Windows is (aside from the above mentioned items).
Good luck,
Lyle Taylor
Cannibul wrote:
> I currently have Redhat 6.1 running on a old p-166. I would like to
> build a new K-6 450 machine and just move the hard drive over to the new
> box. Is this possible with Linux?? Or am I going to have to spend a
> couple of days getting things set back up?
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From: Thomas Hommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hooking up a monitor to a serial port?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:03:24 +0100
Hi
I think you will never be able to get a monitor to work on a serial
port. You�ll need a terminal. Terminals are dumb, which means that they
don�t compute anything, they only manage input and ouput and send it
over a serial line to the host computer. Monitors can�t do this, they
only display raw VGA data.
Tom
Tom Massey schrieb:
>
> Hi, an old 486 of mine recently went dead, and so I've got a spare VGA
> monitor hanging around and nothing much to do with it. I've noticed that
> the kernel config has an option something like 'Console on serial port',
> which mentions that it's possible to plug a monitor into a serial port
> and see console messages there. Which sounds kind of fun. :-) I've
> looked for more detailed docs on how to do this, but can't seem to find
> anything - just selecting the option while compiling the kernel doesn't
> seem to work. Could anybody give me some hints on how to do this? Do I
> need any special cables beyond an adapter to change the VGA pin into the
> standard serial? Thanks.
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From: <4>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Mouse USB help.
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:17:15 -0500
I have a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer USB mouse. Under RedHat 6.1 I
didn't have to do anything to get it working. But make sure "legacy USB" is
enabled in your CMOS setup. If it isn't, you'll have to do what everybody
else has been saying to do.
--
"Kevin Walter Rogovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
..
> Hi All,
>
> I recently got a USB Logitech mouse, and had wanted to know if it
> was posiible to use it under LINUX, specifically RedHat V6.0.... I was
> hoping to use it as a USB device, rather than setting up the mouse as a
> ps/2 mouse... I was under the impression that if a mouse could be used as
> USB, or ps/2, one should go for USB (atleast for Win9x) so I was wondering
> if I could get the mouse to work under Linux/Xfree86 using the USB
> interface... anyone know if this is possible, and if so how? Thanks in
> advance.
>
> -Kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
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From: GarbMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Laptop for Linux - what specifications?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 03:59:39 -0600
Adrian Smith wrote:
>
> I'm hoping to acquire a SH or new low-end laptop to run Linux - can
> anyone advise me if there are any hardware configurations to be coveted
> (or avoided)? I'm going to have to do it here in France, and my French,
> though passable, is not really up to detailed technical discussions, so
> I want to be forearmed with as much knowledge as possible before I
> start waving money at people with berets.
>
> --
> Adrian Smith
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Laptops vary so much even among the same manufacturer that it's hard to
tell you what's good/bad, what to avoid, etc.
Your best bet is to checkout the Linux on Laptops page and see if
there's an entry for a certain model you may be interested in.
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wick)
Subject: Re: AMD and LINUX
Date: 7 Mar 2000 09:49:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <LeJw4.15339$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>Sure Linux is not as easy as windows. Not only did I not pay for it (I
But in linux there a no traps inside the code that produce BSODs when
unwanted processors are used. (As the caldera-trap in win 3.x)
I am running a server with K6-2/350 downclocked to 66/197 and a K6-3/400
workstation with Debian and all things are best. I like the cheap Super7
Technologies:)
--
Only Private Posting
ByeBye
Eric
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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:09:56 +0100
From: "Agust� Vil� i Armengou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP DDS Tape
Hi,
I am using one HP Surestore 2000 external SCSI tape with a SuSE 6.3
linux box.
All run ok except that I have to boot the PC with the tape turned on. If
I have the tape turned off when booting, it is no detected. Can I detect
it later ?
Please, can anyone help me ?
Thanks
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From: Staffan Bruun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Accessing on-board thermometer and fan
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:21:38 GMT
How do I access the on-board thermometers and fan tachometers on Linux?
My motherboard is a QDI Brilliant IV. Is there kernel support for this,
and if not, are there any standards related to this?
Stabi
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From: Andreas Neukoetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Voodoo III, tv-out, xf86, modeline
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:24:13 +0000
Albert Ulmer wrote:
> Young4ert wrote:
>
> > Andreas Neukoetter wrote:
> > > does anybody have the correct modeline for the
> > > voodoo III 3500 and a
> > > standard PAL TV ?
>
> > What program are you using to make the Voodoo3 3500 to capture the
> > movie?
>
> Andreas was not talking about capturing from TV, he was instead talking
> about outputting his SVGA-signal to a TV with XFree86.
Exactly.
And now I have an additional problem.
I booted Win98 (I need it for my DV Cam) and it turned off the TV out :(
Is there a way to turn TV out on from within Linux ?
ciao
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From: Andreas Neukoetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Webgear Aviator 2.4 and RH6.1 Linux
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 13:30:34 +0000
Special K wrote:
> So, here's the deal. I installed the webgear aviator 2.4 wireless
> network card (and pcmcia / isa adapter) in my Red Hat 6.1 linux system.
Hi, I can't help you right now, but I have a question instead ;)
Did you buy the kit within the USA or in Europe ?
I'm still searching for a european distributor or an online shop that
delivers to europe,
but I can't find one.
Any help would be .... helpfull.
ciao
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From: "Disketera par packar bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Necesito diskettera
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:45:39 GMT
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Buen precio!!!
gracias
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From: Filippo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP cdwriter
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:52:29 GMT
I'm going to buy an HP 9210 scsi cdwriter. I'm attaching it to a 2940U2w
scsi controller Do you know of any problems under linux?
--
The nice thing about egotists is that they don't talk about other
people.
-- Lucille S. Harper
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Corel Linux and 3C905C Card HELP!!
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:54:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jarmo Ahonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have the following problem:
>
> I have 3C905C NIC and the standard version of Corel Linux.
> I downloaded the driver from the 3COM page. Now the problem
> is that I cannot install the driver.
>
> It seems that Corel Linux says that it's Kernel is 2.2.12 and
> there is no precompiled modules for that in 3COM package.
> Then I decided to compile the module myself. That did not help
> because the module turned out to be compiled for a wrong
> version of Kernel and insmod did not work...
>
> Has anyone got this working? If yes, please let me know how.
>
> Thanks in advance and best regards,
>
> Jarmo Ahonen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
try this:
place the modules-source in the appropriate folder of the kernel sources
(like /usr/src/linux/modules/net )
reconfigure your kernel, with 3c... added as module
recompile your kernel, and have him also make modules, make
modules_install.
hth
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'there's too much confusion, i cant get no relief...
so let us not talk falsely now, the hour's getting late'
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: on board NIC, Sound, Graphic
Date: 7 Mar 2000 11:04:29 GMT
In article <bh4v4.6240$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have two machines running SuSE 6.3 with PCChips M748LMRT (onboard video
> (SiS 620), pci sound (c-media 8738), ethernet (davicom9102), and
> PCTel/Micromodem HSP56 winmodem).
>
> Guess what... 'everything' works (even the modem - much better than Win 98
> btw).. and board is baby-AT with AT/ATX power and Slot-1/Socket 370
> processor support (up to p3 550 I believe - I have p3 500 & Celeron 400),
> 66/100 bus, 3 DIMM slots.
>
> The video memory is shared... but otherwise works fine (24 bit @ 1024x768 on
> my system). I'm not sure about hardware acceleration - just started writing
> some OpenGL apps... and not expecting great performance under Linux... but
> otherwise I'm pretty content.
>
> Anyway... not bad for a $95 board (sure you can probably find it for less)
>
>
Thanks for your answer
I would not consider to buy a PC Chip board voluntarily;-)
but now I will consider to do so, unless some more reactions arrive
The good thing is that I'm also using SuSE 6.3
Regards
Jacob
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From: Sascha Bohnenkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: aha152x not detected
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:06:41 +0100
> One major hurdle surmounted. I can find the card with modprobe. Now I
> just need some help getting it detected at bootup. Any ideas?
append aha152x=port,irq to the kernel parameters in you lilo.conf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Looking for Win Lucent modem driver for LINUX
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:19:11 GMT
"Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>try http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html (very good information)
>or http://linmodems.org
Right.
>money lady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:KIKw4.1348$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi
>>
>> Can someone please help me?? I am looking for an easy to under setup for
>a
>> driver for my Win LT modem to operate under Corel LINUX.
>>
[...]
In addition to that, Lucent published the driver at their website as well,
I think.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Network adapter and sound card on IRQ 0
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:22:51 GMT
Manuif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>By this I
>found the following two error messages I don't understand:
>..
>Mar 6 19:18:07 localhost kernel: ne2k-pci.c:vpre-1.00e 5/27/99
>D. Becker/P. Gortmaker
>http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html
>Mar 6 19:18:07 localhost kernel: WARNING: The PCI BIOS
>assigned this PCI NE2k card to IRQ 0, which is unlikely to work!.
>Mar 6 19:18:07 localhost kernel: You should use the PCI BIOS
>setup to assign a valid IRQ line.
[...]
You should simply do as suggested. Your BIOS is setup incorrectly,
which is possibly caused by having the option "PNP-OS" set to "Yes".
Disable it and reboot.
>I think that these two messages indicate that my network adapter
>is on IRQ 0 (does such an IRQ really exist?) and my sound card
>shall also be on IRQ 0 which is occupied by my network adapter.
>But I don't understand how to change the IRQ's in the PCI BIOS. I
>have already entered my BIOS (ASUS P3B-F Mainboard) and fixed the
[...]
ASUS uses a weird (but presently common) interpretation of PNP.
They seem to believe that it's a good idea to not assign any
IRQ to the PCI cards if PNP-OS is set to yes, which is just
plain stupid. PNP should allow the OS to rearrange the IRQs itself,
not to ignore the cards entirely.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Rockwell HCF modem
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:23:45 GMT
R. Christopher Harshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Okay, I know the party line about Winmodem support under Linux.
>I know it's a bad idea, I know they're junk, etc. However, I've
>got a new Sony VAIO with an integrated Conexant (nee Rockwell) HCF
>PCI modem that I would like to see work under Linux. (It's the
>VAIO PCG-Z505R, the slimline one.)
[...]
Hopeless. Complain to Sony or to your vendor.
Michael
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From: Andreas Neukoetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: System reqs - is P166 too small/slow?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:50:12 +0000
David Geelan wrote:
> G'day all
>
> My weekend project was to install Corel Linux (based on Debian, with a
> KDE-based interface) on my kids' computer (didn't risk doing my machine
> in case of crashes!) I chose to install it in a 1GB DOS/Windows
> partition, leaving the other 1.5 GB for Windoze so the kids can still
> play their games. The machine is a P133 overclocked to 166, with 32 M of
> RAM.
>
Pretty big for a "play" system ;)
>
> The Linux is horrifyingly slow: click on an icon to open a window and
> then go away for 5-10 minutes while it opens - forget about actually
> doing anything on it.
>
Your problem is KDE.
It just eats memory and burns CPU cycles.
Use a leaner Window Manager. (fvwm, twm, afterstep, ...)
I have an old 486DX2-66 with 24MB.
And I run X (640x480x16bpp) very smoothly.
Even netscape works. (Don't forget to disable the memory+hd-cache, you have
a proxy, right ?)
>
> I guess I'll uninstall this install tonight, 'cos it's completely
> useless. I can then decide to do a proper dual-boot installation, which
> should improve the performance, or forget the whole project, or try
> another distribution, or... But I wanted to check first whether there
> are people successfully running Linux at reasonable speeds on machines
> of this size. It should be possible, shouldn't it?
>
Try a "pure" Debian and go for the lightweight applications.
You always have the choice.
>
> All responses, posted or mailed, will be very helpful.
>
Hope it helps.
btw:
Have your tried to clock your system back to 133MHz and see if it runs
_faster_ ?!!!
ciao
Anti
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From: Robert Halloran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Compaq 7478?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:05:38 GMT
Just bought this as a replacement system (533 MHz
K6-2, 64 Mb, DVD & CD-RW). Looking to
set it up dual-boot as the old one had been. But there's
no option I can see in the BIOS to tell it 'non-PnP O/S'.
Help?
Bob Halloran
Jacksonville FL
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