Linux-Hardware Digest #447, Volume #12 Thu, 9 Mar 00 23:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: 1G memory in Asus P2B-DS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: aha152x not detected (Rebeccah H. Prastein)
Re: modem (in)compatibility.. ("Louis Carette")
Re: what would a good modem for linux be??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? (Charles M. Kozierok)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("Dean_Kent")
3Com NIC installation problem ("John Park")
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? (tjasz)
software RAID5 (Adam Stouffer)
Re: scsi-ide emul and dma (Dances With Crows)
Re: Some progress (was Re: unknown disk drive activity) (Dances With Crows)
Re: Two same card isdn gazel pci 753 BIG PROBLEM (Marcelo Penna Guerra)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? (Charles M. Kozierok)
3Com ADSL HomeConnect PCI Modem (Willow)
Re: 3Com ADSL HomeConnect PCI Modem (Willow)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 1G memory in Asus P2B-DS
Date: 09 Mar 2000 18:46:28 -0500
Lucky me, I just put 1G SDRAM in my Asus P2B-DS system.
However, on boot, Linux said something about only 960MB used.
(I am running Redhat 6.0, with a newer 2.2.13 kernel).
I tried putting 1024M and 1023M in /etc/lilo.conf, but this didn't help.
It's not a big deal, but it would be nice to use a bit more memory...
Thanks for any help,
Richard
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From: Rebeccah H. Prastein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: aha152x not detected
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:57:41 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Joe Ringer wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 08:57:27 -0600, Rebeccah H. Prastein wrote:
> > >One major hurdle surmounted. I can find the card with modprobe. Now I
> > >just need some help getting it detected at bootup. Any ideas?
> >
> > Pardon my butting in....
> > Are you booting via lilo, if so add the following to lilo.conf:
> >
> > append = "aha152x=0x140,10,7,1"
Joe, that was the *first* thing I tried (using my settings, though,
0x340,11,7,1), and it doesn't work. Well, actually the first thing was
manually appending the stuff in quotes at the boot: prompt, but for
completeness I did try adding it to lilo.conf. Thanks, anyway, though.
> But if you have the braindead adapter that came with the SnapScan 310,
> called AVA-1505, then don't be surprised if it doesn't work.
> I think at least my card is incapable of generating interrupts :-(
Atle, I have the AHA-1510A, which seems to be proving to be brain-
impaired, though not actually dead <sigh>. What do you mean about
"generating" interrupts? How can the AVA-1505 function at all without
generating an interrupt? How does the system know if it's the card's
"turn"? Or does the card have to wait for driver software to ask the
system to give it some unshared time? The AHA-1510 can be manually set
with jumpers, to an IRQ of anything from 9 to 12. The default is 11.
The consarn thing works fine now if I run modprobe; I just can't get it
recognized at bootup.
Rebeccah
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From: "Louis Carette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem (in)compatibility..
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:38:07 -0500
Hi,
Go to http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html and find out if our modem is
STANDART and if it will work with Linux. I know Corel Linux dont have good
docs, but under /usr/doc/howto ,man, or html you will find something.
Note: Linux need a STANDARD modem to work.
Louis
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nrg2brn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Where do I find a comprehensive list of linux (corel-linux)
> supported modems? Corels page was terrible.
> I have a Supra max56 voice PCI
> thanks.
> please respond by email. I dont have access to WWW very often...
> Dave
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what would a good modem for linux be???
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:39:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm a newbie at linux, i know that linux doesn't support winmodems, so
> which modem do you recommend? also, i have a 3com U.S. Robotics voice
win
> modem can i get it to work with RH6.1? if so how. (i need specs on
how)
>
> thanks in advance
> Y.L.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
In accordance with what other people have told you, an external modem is
the easiest way to go. Especially for a newbie. Make sure its serial
though, I don't think USB modems work with Linux (in fact, some of 'em
are as bad as Winmodems, using software to drive 'em)
If you decide to go internal, then things get interesting. I myself use
a Jaton Communicator, which is a 56k ISA modem. It has the options of
being PnP or Jumper set (I went with PnP, but it was painful).
There's a few PCI modems that work with Linux, and PCI has the advantage
of being much more PnP friendly than ISA. Check out this page for some
more info: http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/PCImodems.html
Good luck! :)
Kurt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M. Kozierok)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Mar 2000 19:59:20 -0500
In article <UfQx4.1633$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
} Clueless. As was already described Deja counts at those levels are
} meaningless.
Remove "at those levels" and you might actually start making some sense.
(Sigh, he's infested .chips too... now I have to start using a killfile
here also. :( )
cheers,
-*-
Charles M. Kozierok (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Webslave, The PC Guide - http://www.PCGuide.com
Comprehensive PC reference, troubleshooting, optimization and procedures...
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From: "Dean_Kent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:02:26 -0800
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:VFRx4.1719$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >
> > Why? At what level are they meaningful? What number range suddenly
> >makes a query meaningful?
>
>
> When the two LSBs are not always both zeroes......DUH.
>
>
Alrighty then!!! Let's talk scientific...
1) First, when searching for discrete problems, the search should *not*
contain replies. In other words, if a particular post has a dozen replies
that is not indicative that there are 12 people with problems, but that 12
people either agreed, disagreed, offered solutions or simply posted some
snide remark. Also, when restricting a search to a particular day, then
only new posts for *that day* should be considered relevant.
2) All cross-posted messages or multiple posts from the same author on the
same day should be counted only once. Some people post the same question
under different headers or to multiple newsgroups, skewing the totals
3) To be truly scientific, one should examine every post to see whether the
keywords are not in context with the intent of the search. For example, I
did a search for 'Intel IRQ problem*', and found several that simply had the
keywords interspersed, but was not really a complaint about a problem - it
was a question about several different issues. The same occured with the
'VIA' search.
Here are some results from my own search using March 8, 2000 as the date:
Applying rule #1:
'Intel IDE problem*' - 66 total, 12 non-replies
'Intel IRQ problem*' - 38 total, 12 non-replies.
'VIA IDE problem*' - 97 total, 9 non-replies
'VIA IRQ problem*' - 71 total, non-replies
Applying rules 1 and 2:
'Intel IDE problem*' - 66 total, 12 non-replies
'Intel IRQ problem*' - 38 total, 11 non-replies <= two posts from one person
'VIA IDE problem*' - 97 total, 9 non-replies
'VIA IRQ problem*' - 71 total, non-replies
Applying rules 1, 2 and 3:
A) Most of the posts were simply questions on setup, or were making comments
on several different issues that happened to have the keywords interspersed
(not related to the same issue).
B) There were several posts that showed up on all 4 searches.
C) There was a FAQ and some questions on how to set up Linux, or how to
assign resources better (no problems reported, but the word was in the
text).
D) Several 'problems' might very well have been specific device problems,
Linux driver problems or user setup problems.
In fact, almost *none* of the posts could be used as conclusive evidence
that there are any problems with either platform... I have personally spoken
to two different vendors in the last few days. Both sell Intel and VIA
based motherboards. Both indicated that the majority of the 'problems' are
user caused, and not because of any inherent chipset/motherboard/etc.
problems. Since these people are more likely to be experts in this area,
and they have actual personal experience, I would have to say that their
comments are more relevant and valid than someone who is simply using 3rd
party comments.
So, Ron, I must challenge your conclusions and say they are based upon
unsound scientific principles. They are anecdotal at best. Please
provide a more in-depth analysis that is repeatable by others, or I will
have to reject your 'evidence' as invalid.
Alternatively, please provide specific information on how to recreate
whatever problems you know exist so they might be verified (This is an
honest request - I would like to know about any problems so I can try and
work with VIA, Intel or motherboard manufacturers to find workarounds or
fixes, as well as give better advice to others)
Once again, please cite a reliable source of information. Since you have
already indicated that you believe that most of the comments made here are
wrong, then it is only reasonable to assume that an equal percentage of
posts claiming problems with Intel and VIA chipsets are *also* wrong. It
is very self-serving to argue with almost everyone who posts, but then go to
Deja news and claim that every post there must be 'correct' and use it to
bolster your own argument...
Regards,
Dean
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From: "John Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3Com NIC installation problem
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:10:54 -0000
Recently I installed RedHat 6.1 on my com. Everything was O.K. except 3Com
Network Card. When the RedHat boots, it shows error message '...can't
initialize.'
When I used to RedHat 5.2, it worked well. But after I installed RedHat 6.1,
it fails to initialise. So on shell prompt, I ran 'kudzu.' But it showed me
same message. I have 3C509B 3Com Network Card. Does anyone help?
John
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From: tjasz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:05:03 -0800
Reply-To: nospam@dontbother
LOL careful you'll be accused of following him around as well....what
an ego...
On 9 Mar 2000 19:59:20 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M. Kozierok)
wrote:
(Sigh, he's infested .chips too... now I have to start using a
killfile
here also. :( )
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From: Adam Stouffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: software RAID5
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 20:41:01 -0500
Can anyone share their experiances with using software RAID in linux? I
am going to be setting up 5 old scsi drives in a RAID5 configuration for
testing purposes. How difficult is it? Thanks.
Adam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: scsi-ide emul and dma
Date: 09 Mar 2000 20:56:08 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:00:28 +0100, John v/d Kamp
<<8a96sv$30t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>an new sony crx120e rewritable drive, and normally it uses dma.
>I tried the normal ide drivers (ali 15x3 chip, kernel 2.3.x, 2.2.12
>patched) and the drive works, but for burning you need the scsi emul,
>but when I try to mount the drive I get this after a timeout:
[errors snipped]
>so dma is disabled, until I remove scsi emul.
>anyone got dma and scsi emul working? and what do I do wrong?
>can I safely burn cd's without this feature?
A CD-ROM cannot transfer data fast enough to require DMA. If a CD-ROM
could read data at 40x (none can sustain this speed), then it would be
transferring 40*150K or 6000K/sec, which is 5.8M/sec, which is well
within PIO-mode capabilities. Burning CDs is even less demanding--either
600K/sec (4x) or 1.2M/sec (8x) so no reason to fear. You don't need DMA
to burn CDs reliably; you need a reasonably fast hard drive and a lightly
loaded system. It also helps if the CD-RW is on ide1 and the hard drive
is on ide0, due to the limitations of IDE.
When I had a motherboard with the ALi1543 chipset, I never could get DMA
enabled on the secondary IDE interface. *shrug*. I can enable DMA and
IDE-SCSI on my VIA MVP3 motherboard and Philips CD-RW640, but that doesn't
increase transfer speed or decrease CPU load for me.
--
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There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Some progress (was Re: unknown disk drive activity)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:00:17 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9 Mar 2000 03:56:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8a77ck$2vp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>You know, I was just scanning the newsgroups because I was about to post
>about this. My computer does the same thing but upon examining the ring
>buffer (w/ dmesg) I get the message:
>VFS: Disk change detected on device ide0(3,64)
>ATAPI device hdb:
> Error: Not ready -- (Sense key=0x02)
>repeating over and over. It turns out that if I put a data CD in my CD-RW
>drive even w/o mounting, the problem goes away. It is quite annoying. I
This annoyed the hell out of me under RH, and I solved the problem in a
rather inelegant way: I compiled a new kernel without automounter
support. There's got to be a better way to do it, but this did work, and
I don't use the automounter anyway....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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From: Marcelo Penna Guerra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two same card isdn gazel pci 753 BIG PROBLEM
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 23:06:27 -0300
Did you try forcing the IRQ with irq=10,11 ?
That might work.
Marcelo Penna Guerra
sig: There�s no such thing as signatures!
laurentbrinon wrote:
> hello, i have two same type of card isdn -> gazel pci 753 and i can't work
> with two.
> file:/proc/pci
> one card -> irq 10
> two card -> irq 9
> and after the command :
>
> modprobe hisax type=34,34 protocol=2,2 id=C1%C2
>
> One card has succesfully installed on irq 10, and the last card is not
> installed because : ressource busy on irq 10 !
>
> Please you know this problem ?
> thank you.
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M. Kozierok)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 Mar 2000 22:12:41 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
tjasz <nospam@dontbother> wrote:
} LOL careful you'll be accused of following him around as well....what
} an ego...
That's OK, I already got the whole "stalker", "ninny", "drivel"
treatment back in 1997. ;)
cheers,
-*-
Charles M. Kozierok (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Webslave, The PC Guide - http://www.PCGuide.com
Comprehensive PC reference, troubleshooting, optimization and procedures...
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From: Willow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3Com ADSL HomeConnect PCI Modem
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:19:39 GMT
Buscando semanas en miles de foros y tirandom� un mont�n de noches
delante de mis maquinas intentando de solucionar el problema de
configurar mi Tarjeta ADSL 3Com HomeConnect PCI (no tengo ni puto plan
de Linux, pero lo necesitoooooooo!!!!!) he enviado un email al Supporte
T�cnico de 3Com solucionando drivers para Linux. Hoy he recibido el
sigiuente mensaje:
Hello Admin,
Thank you for contacting 3Com Online Support. I see you have a question
about obtaining Linux drivers for the ADSL modem.
Admin, we currently do not have Linux drivers for our ADSL PCI modem.
Nor is it known when, if ever, Linux drivers will be available.
Currently the PCI ADSL modem is only supported under Windows 9x or
Windows NT 4.0.
However, the external ADSL modem can be used with any operating system
that supports an ethernet card.
Have we resolved your issue to your satisfaction today? If the response
we have provided you does not meet with your satisfaction, please reply
to this message with an explanation as to why.
Thank you,
David T.
3Com Online Support
Por si os sirve de algo.
A mi no!
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From: Willow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3Com ADSL HomeConnect PCI Modem
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:02:39 GMT
Well, thats my answer to the 3Com support:
Hi,
I personally think that it is a shame that a multinational company like
yours, actually producing excellent products not having a better service to
your customers. I understand that this modem came onto the market in the
middle of 1999. That's nearly a year ago. But as on the box stated the
modem can be installed under Win9x,NT or Win2000. It works fine under Win98
but how can it work under Win2000 if Win2000 wasn't on the market and until
today there isn't any driver available for Win2000? Have you tested this
modem under Win2000? But thats not the point. I'm not interested in any
drivers for ANY Win version because Win sucks and not one of ALL the normal
working persons with an non gates income can afford to buy Windows 2000.
And the top of the Iceberg is that I was forced from my ISP to buy this
modem, because that was the only one they offered me. I wanted ADSL? So I
had to sign their contract. There was NO CHANCE for me to get just the
service from them and the Hardware from another provider. There were so
many complaints about them anyway. Just have a look at news.teleline.es
teleline.adsl. Looks to me like Gates Brother. But they have a REAL
monopolio here in spain. I got this modem three weeks ago and it cost me
$186. To put me online they charged me another $360. That is lots of money
for a modem and a service and now what? I cannot afford a new modem, I
cannot use Windows 'cause it sucks (not to talk about to run a webserver
with), I cannot afford WinNT nor Win2000 (which are known to be stable). If
you would exchange that internal modem with an external? How much money do
you loose every day in not selling a product because it hasn't support for
other os? You will loose more and more money because the days of Windows
are counted. Please keep in mind the 10 million of Linux users and the
number is growing every day. Can you be so ignorant to all of us? I dont
think it would cost you that much to put one person on to develop new
drivers for operating systems like linux but your prestige would grow very
much.
Thank you.
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