Linux-Hardware Digest #451, Volume #12 Fri, 10 Mar 00 15:13:08 EST
Contents:
HELP me please: ny SCSI tape hangs up my computer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: rw cd rom (h0l0gRaM)
Re: rw cd rom (Lien-Fei Chu)
Need Advise on Getting Old Adaptec Card for Old 450mb SCSI (mike)
Linux for HP (Matthias Honal)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sis video card ("haytham siala")
Re: BW QuickCam and Redhat 6.1 (Walz)
Re: Modem and sound card installation (Walz)
Re: HP 932C Printer? (pugfantus)
Re: CDROM problem that wont go away.....HELP!!!! ("Kellyboy")
Re: Req. for info on rev. engineering an ISA (Backer) card (Gert van der Knokke)
Re: Need Advise on Getting Old Adaptec Card for Old 450mb SCSI ("Pat Crean")
Re: Bogomips miss caclulated? (Willow)
Re: Floppy drive sloooooooooooooooooow (Craig Steffen)
Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks) (Greg T Hill)
Thanks anyway ("seb")
Re: udma66 abit bh6 HELP? (EKK)
EPoX (cambion)
Re: IDE controllers for software RAID (Greg Leblanc)
Re: is it true that all external modems are not winmodems?
apm & RH 6.1 on Compaq Presario 5838 (Jan Just Keijser)
Re: Is the onboard sound for TX-ProII motherboards supported? (Greg T Hill)
Re: is it true that all external modems are not winmodems? (Jianxin Xiong)
Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("John Howland")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP me please: ny SCSI tape hangs up my computer
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:57:31 GMT
HELP me please: ny SCSI tape hangs up my computer
Last hope: why the store on a SCSI tape hangs up my machine ?
Dear ALL,
do not give to be lost!
I have to set up automatic backup from W'95 and W'98 machines on a
tape. SAMBA package works very well - simply charm - I can read all my
Windoz machines. My problem is: while I'm trying to write down
something on a tape, my computer hungs up very thoroughly after writing
some files -- only button reset put it out from this thoughtfulness !
Just keys Sh-PgUp and Sh-PgDn work.
But I still can read the tape ...
What I have:
(1) linux 2.0.34, distribution Slackware 3.3.5
(2) storage device is the tape (8 G) which is connected through the
SCSI adapter,
(3) recordable CD (ATAPI, for working with it through "cdrecord", I
have set up SCSI emulation)
That speaks "dmesg":
... skipped ...
hdc: MATSHITA CR-589, ATAPI CDROM drive - enabling SCSI emulation
ATAPI overlap supported: No
hdd: MATSHITA CD-R CW-7582, ATAPI CDROM drive - enabling SCSI emulation
ATAPI overlap supported: No
... skipped ...
aha152x: processing commandline: ok
aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller (s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7,
reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled,
delay=100, extended translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok.
scsi0: Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
scsi1: SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi: 2 hosts.
Vendor: SONY Model: SDT-7000 Rev: 0300
Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Vendor: MATSHITA Model: CD-ROM CR-589 Rev: GS0H
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Vendor: MATSHITA Model: CD-R CW-7582 Rev: 1.10
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi1, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
scsi: detected 1 SCSI tape 2 SCSI cdroms total.
... skipped ...
CDR works correctly; "tar" and "dd" hang up my computer; "mt"
(retension, status and other movings) is carried out correctly.
Who knows why ? And what is the reason ? I shall be grateful for any
helps !
If I change SCSI ID for the tape It will help me ?
P.S. The same device works under Windoz'98 ... Tell me whether it's the
reason to work under Windoz ?!... :-(
P.P.S. Even with SCSI emulation disabled any command that writes to
tape hangs up my computer after writing some files.
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From: h0l0gRaM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rw cd rom
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:12:39 +0200
protoscs wrote:
> does ne one know of a s/w for RW cdroms for linux i can lay my hands on
So ,do you mean software for CD-RW's ?
I use mkisofs/mkhybrid with cdrecord ,and burner is Ricoh MP6200 SCSI
,works fine in dec's alpha
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From: Lien-Fei Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rw cd rom
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:20:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Both software Matt mention are very good. I use xcdroast all the time without
a problem. And, there is another software call "gcombust" which is very nice
too. I just start using it recently and I like it too.
You can find all those software at
www.filewatcher.com
and do a search on gcombust.
Good luck.
Alex.
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:18:53 +0200, protoscs <<38c8e228.0@news>>
> shouted forth into the ether:
> >does ne one know of a s/w for RW cdroms for linux i can lay my hands on
>
> You must not have been looking very hard for anything. I don't know quite
> what you mean by "software for CD-RWs", but Linux users usually use the
> cdrecord/mkisofs utilities to burn CDs. There are graphical frontends to
> these utilities available as well; popular ones include Xcdroast and
> CDRtoaster. Go to http://www.freshmeat.net and search for "cdrecord". If
> you haven't already, read the CD-Writing HOWTO at
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html before you begin to
> muck around. There are pitfalls and that document tells you how to avoid
> them.
>
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need Advise on Getting Old Adaptec Card for Old 450mb SCSI
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:30:45 -0500
Hi,
I found an old computer with a built in scsi adapter, but it is
too old to run Linux on although it ran Win 3.1. It is an on board
adaptec chip 6360L as far as I researched, Linux does not have
a driver for it so I am faced with going to a local store that sells
used computers and parts.
I would like to know what old adaptec scsi cards will
work well without trouble so I will know what to ask for.
The scsi drive in the unit is a Seagate ST-3550N. About 456mb.
Mike
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From: Matthias Honal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Linux for HP
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:39:39 +0100
Hi!
I have two old HP-machines but no operation system for them. Does any
one know, wether there is a LINUX that works together with HP machines.
Or where eles can I get a (free) operating system for them except from
(the very expensive) HP-UX?
Thanks a lot,
Matthias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: 10 Mar 2000 17:38:39 GMT
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Howland wrote in message <_iyx4.425$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> I run across him on a regular basis... my concern is someone who doesn't
> know better may actually
>>believe him.
> And be fortunate that they do.
Typical ron-sense.
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From: "haytham siala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sis video card
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:12:16 -0000
Where can I get a Linux video driver for the SiS video card?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walz)
Subject: Re: BW QuickCam and Redhat 6.1
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:44:44 +0200
Hi
Bernard
> parport: Device or resource busy
RedHat is based on Kernel 2.2 that accesses the parallelPort in an even
more modular fashion than 2.1 did:
near to the hardware (the buffer-chips of the port)
there is module parport_pc or so,
and using this service there are higher level modules, for printers, for
scanners, for cameras, for zipdrvies etc.
Maybe it suffices to put the line
alias parport_lowlevel parport.pc
into the file /etc/conf.modules ?
Due to RedHat's sloppiness that line was 'forgotten'. Even if you want
to use a standard printer at the parallelPort you have to add the above
line.
But maybe there is another module missing?
ciao,
Kurt.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Modem and sound card installation
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:44:51 +0200
Hi
Fernando
> My Red Hat 6.1 didn't find my modem (a US Robotics 56K x2)
> and my sound card (Opti is the name).. drivers..
For a modem you do not need a driver, normally. You use tools like kppp
to set up the connection speed to the modem, your provider's data etc.
Those steps are described in several manuals, see /usr/doc/....
Configuring the soundcard is more sopisticated, cannot help here.
ciao,
Kurt.
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From: pugfantus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP 932C Printer?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:30:11 GMT
Ok, I bought the printer, and it prints wonderfully under Windows (photo
quality, beatiful), and it does printer under linux, but the quality is,
well.. lacking.. probably 300x300, even tho it should be able to go up to
at least 600x600. I'll play around with the drivers some more..
--pug
pugfantus wrote:
>
> I'm about to buy one my self, so we'll see!
>
> --pug
>
>
> KC wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone got the HP 932C printer working on Linux?
> >
> > Thanks
> > KCF
>
>
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From: "Kellyboy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM problem that wont go away.....HELP!!!!
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:34:45 -0600
> Kellyboy
>
> Nah, those super xxx drives tend to do that. Take it back. I lost 2 of
> those 48x memorex drives in mid-installs. The first one decided it was
> an 8x drive only, but kept on working for a few days, the 2nd just fell
> over. The third ones working fine, and both were over the counter
> warranty replaced at Staples plus I got a refund as they'd gone down 10
> bucks by the time the second one failed. Neat!
so super xxx tend to do that?? what cdrom (or what brand) do you recommend
?? or what hidden problem I should be aware of before I buy any cd of any
brand??? Will SCSI version be less problematic?
thanks,
kellyboy
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From: Gert van der Knokke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Req. for info on rev. engineering an ISA (Backer) card
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:31:49 +0100
nobody wrote:
>
> Also: if anyone else out there has one of these cards and is *also*
> interested in poking away at it please drop me a line and we can pool
> our resources. There are amateur radio people interested in using these
> things as high speed modems over ATV channels so I'm not the only one
> looking programing info... you know you're out there!
>
> -Kipp
>
> PS --- if anyone from Danmere is reading this... c'mon guys give a guy a
> break will ya? We're all in this together.
>
How 'highspeed' is this Backer backup system ?
Considering the average (older) VCR doesn't handle much over 1 MHz bandwidth
I guess the datatransfer rate will be much lower than that.
(there is no error correcting during write possible since a videorecorder is a
'half duplex' system)
But for 'high' speed data transfer over ATV why not use Teletext ?
Teletext uses a 6 MHz pixel clock to transfer 40 bytes per scanline.
With the 625 lines a PAL system uses you can transfer 625x40 bytes per frame.
This will total up to about 625000 bytes per second if you use all the available
lines.
A teletext generator is little more than a (monochrome) videocard fixed at a 6
MHz dotclock.
The decoder PLL will lock itself to the clock run in dots in front of the data
part.
With some tweaking a normal VGA card can be used as a Teletext generator.
(you could even generate 3 differente data streams if you use the R,G and B
seperately)
Gert
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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need Advise on Getting Old Adaptec Card for Old 450mb SCSI
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:50:46 -0500
Are you sure about that? Give the 152x driver a try and see if it doesn't
work for you...
"mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I found an old computer with a built in scsi adapter, but it is
> too old to run Linux on although it ran Win 3.1. It is an on board
> adaptec chip 6360L as far as I researched, Linux does not have
> a driver for it so I am faced with going to a local store that sells
> used computers and parts.
> I would like to know what old adaptec scsi cards will
> work well without trouble so I will know what to ask for.
> The scsi drive in the unit is a Seagate ST-3550N. About 456mb.
>
>
> Mike
>
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From: Willow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bogomips miss caclulated?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:55:10 GMT
I've got an AMD K6-3 450Mhz overclocked to 475Mhz and it has got 950.27
Bogomips. I love my processor.
Josh Auger escribi�:
> Hey,
>
> I have a Intel Pentium 100 Mhz. Yeah, I understand this is somewhat ancient
> but my bogomips reading is at 39.73! This doesn't seem right. Here's what
> I get when I cat /proc/cpuinfo:
>
> processor: 0
> vendor_id: GeniuneIntel
> cpu family: 5
> model: 2
> stepping: 6
> cpu MHz: 99.657726
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug: no
> sep_bug: no
> f00f_bug: yes
> coma_bug: no
> fpu: yes
> fpu_exception: yes
> cpuid level: 1
> flags :fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8
> bogomips: 39.73
>
> I have the kernel compilied correctly for the right cpu, Pentium w/ tsc
> support and mttrs. So any ideas? I was just wondering if this would at all
> affect any of my system performance at all since I know that the bogomips
> are responsible somewhat for calibrating how the kernel performs.
>
> Please CC any responses...
>
> Josh
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From: Craig Steffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Floppy drive sloooooooooooooooooow
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:00:30 -0500
I have had this problem one time--I was installing Debian Linux on a
Pentium PC. The thing would take tens of minutes to boot to the rescue
floppy.
Several months later, I re-installed Linux on the same system, with new
disks. I worked fine. I think that it was something with the kernel,
perhaps. Maybe there's a wierd interaction with certain kinds of
hardware. But the new disks that I made, with an updated kernels worked
fine.
Craig Steffen
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From: Greg T Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows docs (was: Re: Linux sucks)
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:04:53 -0500
Microsoft's system for documentation is abominable. When I bought a
computer from Gateway with win3.11 it came with a fairly good user's
manual. When I upgraded from win3.11 to win98 it came with a book that
was nothing more than a pamhlet advertising the wonders of win98 devoid
of useful information. When I upgraded from 98 to Linux I bought a
Complete Idiot's Guide by Ricart that included Col 1.3 and StarOffice.
When you by Novell you get a carton of documentation. MS_Office has a
fairly decent, although annoying as all hell help system which
advertises all the advanced features, but gives you just enough
information to hang youself.
I think a cdrom can hold about 18,000 pages of text. For the price M$
charges for its products their is no valid excuse for not including a
cdrom with some usable documentation in html, pdf, or rtf format.
If you install the source pakages, man and info pages, full docs and
howto's you end up with probably more megs of documentation than binary
code. There's even a program availble to facilitate browsing the source
tree. You don't have to be a C programmer to learn from the sources,
there's often more comment than code. Once you learn to help yourself in
Linux, there's a world of help available.
"If I have seen farther than other men it is because I have stood on the
shoulders of giants." -Isaac Newton
"If I have made more money than other men it is because I have stood on
the shoulders of giants, while my legal team imprisoned and castrated
them," Bill (last name omitted fearing retribution)
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From: "seb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thanks anyway
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:15:39 +0100
That didn't sound to good. I better go off and bye a new modem then. That
is, if linux is better than windows.
Thanks anyway. :-)
B/R
Seb
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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: udma66 abit bh6 HELP?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:18:37 -0800
wayne rattz wrote:
>
> HELLO:If youre refering to a controller card like the promise ultra66 pci
> then read my howto for the card at my site The howto direct page is
> http://www.geocities.com/wrattz/linux6.html My main page is
> http://www.geocities.com/wrattz/linux1.html Theres everything from iso
> links to bookstore links about linux.GOOD LUCK WAYNE!
> bbeck4x4 wrote:
> >
> >
> > I installed linux before upgrading to this motherboard and now cannot
> boot
> > the computer past "li" with a udma 33 cable plugged into the udma 33
> slot,
> > and the hard drive set to udma33
> >
> > Now with the udma66 cable in the udma66 slot, and the hard drive set to
> > udma66. I can load lilo
> > and if I choose linux then linux cannot find the hard drive, and I get a
> > kernal panic.
> > if I choose win then I can boot into win like nothing was ever wrong -
> >
> >
> > How do I get Linux back, or (I hope not) remove the Linux partition and
> wait
> > for udma66 support.
> >
rattz's page is good, but you don't have to install a basic linux system
to find out the ide controller addresses.
e.g. put in RH6.0 or SUSE, etc. installation CD, boot from CDROM and
then
when the system is up, do a CTRL+Alt+F2 to get to a basic unix prompt
screen. (if you try to install at this point, it won't work because
linux doesn't know where ide2 is.) Then cat /proc/pci. Then reboot,
giving installation the ide2=... options
g.l.
AG
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From: cambion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EPoX
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:30:02 GMT
I have an EPoX EP-MVP3G mainboard running an AMDk6 450mhz anybody know of
any problems?
other hardware
(useless information)
Diamond Viper V-770.............video
Diamond Monstersound MX-300.....sound
generic CD-ROM and floppy
32MB SDRAM
PS-2 keyboard
usb Logitech mouse
thanks in advance for any help
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From: Greg Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE controllers for software RAID
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:34:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend an IDE controller that will do a good job with
> software RAID 5 under RedHat Linux 6.1. The Linux FAX states cheap IDE
> controllers are available, without being specific.
I think that the HARDWARE-HOWTO and the UDMA mini HOWTO (not sure
whether it's udma or Ultra DMA, or what, but it's there) have some
information on which IDE controllers are supported.
>
> How many IDE expansion cards can one have in the one machine under
> Linux? Has anyone got two additional cards to work alongside the
> motherboard controllers?
Well, on my old VESA machine, I had three controllers running, but they
were all single channel, so I only had a total of 6 possible disks. It
shouldn't be a problem going to more disks than that.
>
> I've set up software RAID 5 on RedHat Linux 6.1 with 4 IDE disks on
the
> 2 IDE controllers on my motherboard, but would like to improve
> performance and reliability by having each disk on a separate
> controller. I'd also like to add more disks.
>
> Even better if the controllers are available in Australia.
IDE doesn't scale well (as you're finding out, I guess). I have a
couple of external chassis running old 1GB scsi drives, mostly in RAID1,
RAID0, or RAID10 right now. Pretty good performance, and they're not
that expensive. Not too great on the storage space, but they were
free...
Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: is it true that all external modems are not winmodems?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:40:32 GMT
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:06:36 +0200, plato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>is it true that all external modems are not winmodems?
>
>
Yes. Rs232 hasn't the bandwidth to drive a braindead winmodem.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Just Keijser)
Subject: apm & RH 6.1 on Compaq Presario 5838
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:42:05 GMT
Hi,
I've installed RH 6.1 on my Compaq Presario 5838 (Athlon 500, AMD motherboard
for all I can tell) at home and it's running nice and smooth except for one
things: at boot-up the kernel says it cannot find the APM BIOS and it does not
recognize ACPI yet. I've tried finding an 'enable APM' option in the Compaq's
BIOS but could not find it.
Somebody must have done this before, so any helpers out there?
TIA,
JJ
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From: Greg T Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is the onboard sound for TX-ProII motherboards supported?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:45:21 -0500
Daniel Seagraves wrote:
>
> Stuck with a TX-ProII MB at work, it's got onboard sound.
> The controller (appears to be) a SoundPro HT1869V+
> Is this supported?
>
> "Confuse, annoy, and DEE-STROY!" -- Jet Wolf | "Nothing Happens." -- ADVENT
> "...A man can pass his family and his name down through his sons, but it's
> his honour that gets passed through his daughters. He can see the best
> and worst of life in his girls. A daughter is something far too precious,
> and he'll do anything to protect her."
> -- Reichsfuehrer Siegfried Koenig, _Matrose_Mond_, David Oliver
I have a motherbooard with onboard video & sound and the motherboard
documentation calls it a SoundPro but SoundPro is really the name of the
windoze driver, the actual chip is CMedia PCI. To use this chip I had to
recompile the kernel enabling sound and and experimental modules. The
module I needed was cmpci. I found this out using 4-Front OpenSound. If
this is the chip it will work just fine. OpenSound is free for limited
use, I think $20 for full license. They provide the OSS modules for
Linux so supporting them is not a bad thing. I already bought a license
for my old Soundblaster so I just used it to figure out what I really
had. Most of my hardware difficulties with Linux have really boiled down
to: what is this card REALLY? and what module does it really need? Oh,
I'm using kernel 2.2.14, earlier ones may not include this module, check
your source under /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/.
Hope this helps
Greg Hill
"If I have seen farther than other men it is because I have stood on the
shoulders of giants" -Isaac Newton
"If I have made more money than other men it is because I have stood on
the shoulders of giants while my legal team imprisoned and castrated
them." -Bill (last name omitted for fear of retribution)
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From: Jianxin Xiong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: is it true that all external modems are not winmodems?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:58:16 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:06:36 +0200, plato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >is it true that all external modems are not winmodems?
>
> Yes. Rs232 hasn't the bandwidth to drive a braindead winmodem.
Be careful. Some external moderms use USB interface, which may be either
hardware moderm or software modem. Even it's a hardware one, it's
currently not supportted by linux. So avoid any USB modem.
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(`Q`)
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From: "John Howland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:02:02 -0800
Nice Dean.... <G>
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> Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:VFRx4.1719$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > >
> > > Why? At what level are they meaningful? What number range suddenly
> > >makes a query meaningful?
> >
> >
> > When the two LSBs are not always both zeroes......DUH.
> >
> >
>
> Alrighty then!!! Let's talk scientific...
>
> 1) First, when searching for discrete problems, the search should *not*
> contain replies. In other words, if a particular post has a dozen replies
> that is not indicative that there are 12 people with problems, but that 12
> people either agreed, disagreed, offered solutions or simply posted some
> snide remark. Also, when restricting a search to a particular day, then
> only new posts for *that day* should be considered relevant.
>
> 2) All cross-posted messages or multiple posts from the same author on the
> same day should be counted only once. Some people post the same question
> under different headers or to multiple newsgroups, skewing the totals
>
> 3) To be truly scientific, one should examine every post to see whether the
> keywords are not in context with the intent of the search. For example, I
> did a search for 'Intel IRQ problem*', and found several that simply had the
> keywords interspersed, but was not really a complaint about a problem - it
> was a question about several different issues. The same occured with the
> 'VIA' search.
>
> Here are some results from my own search using March 8, 2000 as the date:
>
> Applying rule #1:
>
> 'Intel IDE problem*' - 66 total, 12 non-replies
> 'Intel IRQ problem*' - 38 total, 12 non-replies.
> 'VIA IDE problem*' - 97 total, 9 non-replies
> 'VIA IRQ problem*' - 71 total, non-replies
>
> Applying rules 1 and 2:
>
> 'Intel IDE problem*' - 66 total, 12 non-replies
> 'Intel IRQ problem*' - 38 total, 11 non-replies <= two posts from one person
> 'VIA IDE problem*' - 97 total, 9 non-replies
> 'VIA IRQ problem*' - 71 total, non-replies
>
> Applying rules 1, 2 and 3:
>
> A) Most of the posts were simply questions on setup, or were making comments
> on several different issues that happened to have the keywords interspersed
> (not related to the same issue).
> B) There were several posts that showed up on all 4 searches.
> C) There was a FAQ and some questions on how to set up Linux, or how to
> assign resources better (no problems reported, but the word was in the
> text).
> D) Several 'problems' might very well have been specific device problems,
> Linux driver problems or user setup problems.
>
> In fact, almost *none* of the posts could be used as conclusive evidence
> that there are any problems with either platform... I have personally spoken
> to two different vendors in the last few days. Both sell Intel and VIA
> based motherboards. Both indicated that the majority of the 'problems' are
> user caused, and not because of any inherent chipset/motherboard/etc.
> problems. Since these people are more likely to be experts in this area,
> and they have actual personal experience, I would have to say that their
> comments are more relevant and valid than someone who is simply using 3rd
> party comments.
>
> So, Ron, I must challenge your conclusions and say they are based upon
> unsound scientific principles. They are anecdotal at best. Please
> provide a more in-depth analysis that is repeatable by others, or I will
> have to reject your 'evidence' as invalid.
>
> Alternatively, please provide specific information on how to recreate
> whatever problems you know exist so they might be verified (This is an
> honest request - I would like to know about any problems so I can try and
> work with VIA, Intel or motherboard manufacturers to find workarounds or
> fixes, as well as give better advice to others)
>
> Once again, please cite a reliable source of information. Since you have
> already indicated that you believe that most of the comments made here are
> wrong, then it is only reasonable to assume that an equal percentage of
> posts claiming problems with Intel and VIA chipsets are *also* wrong. It
> is very self-serving to argue with almost everyone who posts, but then go to
> Deja news and claim that every post there must be 'correct' and use it to
> bolster your own argument...
>
> Regards,
> Dean
>
>
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