Linux-Hardware Digest #456, Volume #12           Sat, 11 Mar 00 11:13:08 EST

Contents:
  --GATOS w/ ATI All in Wonder 128-- (Rod Gutierrez)
  PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux? (Georg Schwarz)
  Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better? ("P. Tolstoy")
  Re: PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux? (Bob Eager)
  Re: IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: 4 Celeron motherboard? (Atle)
  Re: Intel Sys, IDE free? ("Chris Hill")
  SMP / Adaptec 2940 problems (Dimitri Papadopoulos)
  Re: PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux? (Georg Schwarz)
  Re: How to install new network Ethernet adapter?!! (Stefan Seyfried)
  Re: How to install new network Ethernet adapter?!! (Stefan Seyfried)
  Re: mp3 hardware (Bryan)
  Re: MP3 Players Other Than Rio ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  soundcard IRQ ("Ziggy")
  Re: PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux? (Bob Eager)

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From: Rod Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: --GATOS w/ ATI All in Wonder 128--
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 08:18:33 -0500

I just bought an  ATI All in Wonder 128 w/ 32MB of RAM. I really like
the card, but I have had no luck getting  GATOS to work, and I'd really
like to be able to watch some TV under linux. I'm pretty sure that I
follwed the directions given, and I've messed around w/ it quite a bit
but I always get the same
 error when I run xatitv....

 GATOS: gatos_initb()
 GATOS:  bt829_init(): No such device
 GATOS: bt829_init failed: No such device
 GATOS: gatos_initb(): No such device
 xatitv: gatos_init(): No such device
 video memory protecting

IIf anyone has any ideas please let me know. Thanks alot in advance.

 Regards

 Rod


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux?
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:23:59 +0100

I'm using an IBM PS/2 model 70 with an IBM Dual Async MCA Adapter
(AdapterId 0EEFFh). There's already one serial port on board.
The ADF file for 0EEFFh contains the following lines:

      choice "SERIELL_1"  pos[0]=XXXX000Xb  io 03f8h-03ffh  int 4
      choice "SERIELL_2"  pos[0]=XXXX001Xb  io 02f8h-02ffh  int 3
      choice "SERIELL_3"  pos[0]=XXXX010Xb  io 3220h-3227h  int 3
      choice "SERIELL_4"  pos[0]=XXXX011Xb  io 3228h-322fh  int 3
      choice "SERIELL_5"  pos[0]=XXXX100Xb  io 4220h-4227h  int 3
      choice "SERIELL_6"  pos[0]=XXXX101Xb  io 4228h-422fh  int 3
      choice "SERIELL_7"  pos[0]=XXXX110Xb  io 5220h-5227h  int 3
      choice "SERIELL_8"  pos[0]=XXXX111Xb  io 5228h-522fh  int 3

those lines probably reflect IBM's idea of the serial ports' IO and IRQ
settings. I've currently set the ports to be serial 1 through 3 in the
"BIOS".

Linux (kernel 2.0.38) thus finds:

Serial driver version 4.13p1 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS32 at 0x3220 (irq = 3) is a 16550A


/proc/interrupts looks as follows:

 0:     314757   timer
 1:          2   keyboard
 2:          0   cascade
 3:      75407 + serial
12:      10138   3c523
13:          1   math error
14:      41842 + PS/2 ESDI

/proc/ioports looks as follows:

0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-0060 : system control port B (MCA)
0080-008f : dma page reg
0090-0090 : arbitration (MCA)
0091-0091 : card Select Feedback (MCA)
0092-0092 : system Control port A (MCA)
0094-0094 : system board setup (MCA)
0096-0097 : POS (MCA)
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : npu
0100-0107 : POS (MCA)
02f8-02ff : serial(set)
0300-0307 : 3c523
03b0-03bf : ega
03f0-03f5 : floppy
03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR
03f8-03ff : serial(set)
3220-3227 : serial(auto)

now my first question is whether having io memory 3220-3227 in use might
be a disadvantage for Linux's memory management. Would it be of a
advantage, and is it feasable at all, to use some other IO memory range
instead for the third serial port? If so, which IO range would be
suitable? I guess I'd simply have to change it in the ADF and once run
the setup? Should I try to hack it to be the "standard" 03e8 - 03ef? Or
is there any reason why IBM doesn't use that memory location?
As for the interrupts, is there any reason not to use IRQ 10 or 11 for
the third serial port? (apart from that dual async adapter, that PC had
a 3c523 ethernet adapter, a memory expansion adapter as well as one
Centronics port, one serial portand VGA on the main board)

-- 

Georg Schwarz     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Institut f�r Theoretische Physik       +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130
Technische Universit�t Berlin        http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/

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From: "P. Tolstoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: VIA vs Intel chipsets - which is better?
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:31:23 -0000

If Intel and Via based boards were the same price then I'd go for Intel
every time. But they're not. Intel chipsets are generally less troublesome
and a bit faster but VIA chipsets offer good value for money.

PT

"Jim Cochrane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8a4l62$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> While calling a couple computer shops today to look into upgrading my
> current system to a PIII motherboard, I came across an interesting
> dilemna - essentially, two shops I talked to gave two different
> opinions on chipsets available for Pentium III motherboards.
>
> I'm posting here to get y'all's opinions on these issues, but I think
> it may also serve as an interesting (and possibly controversial) topic
> of discussion.  (Perhaps it has already been covered here and is old
> hat; but unfortunately, my main machine is in the shop and I can't
> access the web to look at dejanews with my 486.)
>
> The disagreement is on the quality of the non-Intel VIA chipset
> versus the quality of the Intel chipsets.  According to one shop, the
> VIA chipset is much more buggy than the Intel chipsets (BX3 and I820, I
> believe) and that this can potentially cause problems running a Linux
> kernel (my intended OS).  The fellow with this point of view stated
> that the kernel has a lot of patches applied to work around bugs in the
> VIA chipset.  He acknowledged that the Intel chipsets had some bugs,
> but not nearly as many as the VIA chipset.
>
> The fellow with the opposite opinion stated that this was false.  He
> essentially stated that there may be some bugs in both the VIA chipset
> and the Intel chipsets, but that these bugs should not affect the linux
> kernel and thus will not cause problems.  (He also said he had
> installed Linux on several such systems (VIA) and had not run into any
> problems with respect to the chipset.)
>
> Which of these opinions is correct?  Or are they both partly right and
> partly wrong?  (With respect to my hardware upgrade, the questions, of
> course, boils down to whether to purchase a VIA-based board, such as
> Tyan, or an Intel-based board, such as a Supermicro.)
>
> [For those interested, I have also posted a question about another issue
> I came across with the same two shops - see the subject line "PIII vs PIII
> E - which is faster?"]
>
> [Apologies for any errors in terminology - as you can tell, I'm not a
> hardware dude.]
> --
> Jim Cochrane
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Eager)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux?
Date: 11 Mar 2000 13:47:43 GMT

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:23:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg 
Schwarz) wrote:

> now my first question is whether having io memory 3220-3227 in use might
> be a disadvantage for Linux's memory management. Would it be of a
> advantage, and is it feasable at all, to use some other IO memory range
> instead for the third serial port? If so, which IO range would be
> suitable?

It's I/O spec, not memory space. The two are different and don't 
overlap. More technically, addresses are placed on the bus for use by 
things like serial prts, adapters etc, as well as memory. They are 
differentiated by having a signal line to indicate I/O space as 
opposed to memory space. So, it won't mess anything up.

 I guess I'd simply have to change it in the ADF and once run
> the setup? Should I try to hack it to be the "standard" 03e8 - 03ef? Or
> is there any reason why IBM doesn't use that memory location?

You can't. The port isn't built to be set to that address; if it were 
(generally) it would hav en entry in the ADF. There are exceptions, 
but the tech ref says that all the possible combinations are the ones 
you've listed. The port assignments are made via a 3 bit field which 
selects the eight combinations only.

> As for the interrupts, is there any reason not to use IRQ 10 or 11 for
> the third serial port? (apart from that dual async adapter, that PC had
> a 3c523 ethernet adapter, a memory expansion adapter as well as one
> Centronics port, one serial portand VGA on the main board)

You can't. As for the ports, you have to use what the card provides.

-- 
Bob Eager
http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages
http://change.to/ps2


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:51:56 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:22:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >For the newsgroup readers who are not that familiar with Linux
patches
> >and pre-patches, how do you apply the pre-patch to the Linux source?
> >Specifically what is the command sequence to apply the patch?
> >
> >The Linux Kernel-HOWTO faq refers to patching the kernel with the
> >commands:
> >
> >     cd /usr/src
> >     gzip -cd patchXX.gz | patch -p0
> >
> >This command does not work with the pre-patch file; the patch program
> >prompts for a file to patch. Is there a command to automate this
> >process?
>
> Are you substituting the correct patch file name for patchXX.gz?
>
> As usual with Linux, there are many ways to skin the same cat. This is
> what I do:
>
>  unpack the kernel source, after moving it to /usr/src from wherever
it
>  got downloaded to:
>
>  # cd /usr/src
>  # tar zxvf linux-2.2.14.tar.gz
>
> This will install a source tree as /usr/src/linux and assumes you got
> the source as a tgz. If you already have something like that, and want
> to save it, then you will need to rename it before doing the above.
>
>  If the patch is in gz format, then unzip it, and apply pre-patch:
>
>  # gunzip pre-patch-2.2.15-9.gz
>  # cd /usr/src/linux
>  # patch -p1 -E < ../pre-patch-2.2.15-9
>
> Now good to go. This is a few more steps, but not a big deal, and easy
> to see what each step does.
>
> --
> Hal B
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --

That worked. Thanks.

JP


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Before you buy.

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From: Atle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 4 Celeron motherboard?
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:36:01 +0100

Allan wrote:
> 
>
> My home machine is dual Celeron 400's on a second-hand GB 686DLX. Rather
> flakey, but that is probably the board.
 
> I have not yet found anyone interested in helping to track down my problem
> with the tulip and boomerang drivers. It's probably something nastier,
> triggered by the hardware doing strange things.
>
Thanks for the warnings and other information. I have decided on either
the Asus or Abit board, and I have been told to go for Slot 1 instead of
Socket 7 because of greater flexibility.

Atle

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From: "Chris Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intel Sys, IDE free?
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:28:06 -0600

Scrutinizer,

The original idea was to get Linux running with the min. investment
but I did figure on the reusability of SCSI devices, and esp. if burning
CD's onto CD-R to get load off processor.  I put the order in for a
refurb 1.7G EIDE today (supposedly the Triton chipset I have will
support it) along with a CD and floppy, because I figure it's the most
likely to work without undue hassle, and everything comes to <$100.

So for the record, if the motherboard BIOS supports SCSI (esp.
likely if PnP) then it is possible to have SCSI as the boot drive and
no IDE drive at all.  Check with SCSI adapter to be sure it will run
a boot drive.  Some SCSI adapters also have floppy capability.

Now if I can just figure out what this long brown female with 84
connector slot is ...

Thanks for the word guys.  PS Greg, where are you from (not
Illinois I assume).

Chris



Greg T Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:17:23 -0600, Chris Hill
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Hello gurus ... I am setting up a Linux box from hand-me-downs
> > >and don't have a hard-disk.  I was thinking to get an Adaptec
> > >SCSI controller and skip having a IDE drive at all.  Is the floppy
> > >is controlled by the IDE card, and does the _Intel pentium 90+
> > >motherboard_ setup need the IDE controller to work properly?
> > >I'd like to do without, and am looking for advice.  Thanks. Chris
> >
> > If the motherboard has integrated IDE on it like most do then the floppy
> > contorller will be on it.  You can disable the IDE parts w/out disabling
> > the floppy controller.
>
> It's definitely doable but why put a scsi on a p90? Unless you can get
> the scsi disk and card as a hand-me-down also it doesn't make $en$e.



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From: Dimitri Papadopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMP / Adaptec 2940 problems
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:24:14 +0100

Hi,

I have this hardware configuration:

- dual Celeron motherboard
        ABIT BP6              Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG

- 2 SCSI hosts
        Adaptec AHA-2940U2W   SCSI BIOS v2.20.0
        Adaptec AHA-2940AU    BIOS v1.30

Whenever I try to boot an SMP-enabled kernel I get this
error message just after scanning the AHA-2940U2W without
problem and while scanning AHA-2940AU:
        scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 16, scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 
Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00

The system hangs.

This happens with the default 2.2.12 kernel of RedHat 6.1,
but I have also tried with 2.2.13 and 2.2.14 SMP-enabled
kernels. As soon as I revert to a non SMP-enabled kernel
the system boots and works fine.

Does anyone know what the message means? Is this a known
problem with a known workaround?

Regards,
--
Dimitri

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux?
Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:51:14 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Eager) writes:

>> As for the interrupts, is there any reason not to use IRQ 10 or 11 for
>> the third serial port? (apart from that dual async adapter, that PC had
>> a 3c523 ethernet adapter, a memory expansion adapter as well as one
>> Centronics port, one serial portand VGA on the main board)

>You can't. As for the ports, you have to use what the card provides.

sure. It might however be possible to change the card's settings via a
hacked up ADF. Can anybody say for sure whether the hardware of IBM's dual
async card is limited to IRQs 3 and 4 only, or whether it's just IBM's ADF
that only offers combinations with those two IRQs?
-- 
Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP 2.6ui)
Institut f�r Theoretische Physik  +49 30 314-24254   FAX -21130  IRC kuroi
Technische Universit�t Berlin            http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/

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From: Stefan Seyfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install new network Ethernet adapter?!!
Date: 11 Mar 2000 15:28:22 +0100

Pliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All! I have Linux Red Hat 6.02. I am sorry, my question is funny, but
> I am beginner of Linux.
>  I had old network adapter, ISA, non PnP, but Linux it recognized (when I
> made install Linux) and set made setting - IRQ13 and I/O 300H. But I made

I believe it is a ne2000 compatible card, but i'm not sure.

> change old card and installed new card, PCI, PnP(Realtek Ethernet RTL).

Probably it is an ne2000 PCI clone. Look exactly what chip is on it,
IIRC, RTL 8019/8029 are NE2000 clones, you need the ne2k-pci driver.

So if you have a line like 'alias eth0 ne' in your /etc/conf.modules
or /etc/modules.conf, try changing it to 'alias eth0 ne2k-pci'. If you
compiled the network-card support into the kernel, recompile with the
ne2k-pci driver.

If it is a RTL 8129/8139, they have their own driver, it is called 
rtl8139.

If you give more information, people can help you better.
What distribution do you use?
Which kernel version?

HTH

-- 
Stefan Seyfried, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi, i'm a signature-virus! copy me to your .signature to help me spread!

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From: Stefan Seyfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install new network Ethernet adapter?!!
Date: 11 Mar 2000 15:31:02 +0100

Stefan Seyfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> If you give more information, people can help you better.
> What distribution do you use?

Ok, sorry, you said you used RH 6, i overlooked it.
-- 
Stefan Seyfried, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi, i'm a signature-virus! copy me to your .signature to help me spread!

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From: Bryan <Bryan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mp3 hardware
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:08:25 GMT

lp3music.com


Lars Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am planning to rebuilding a 66mhz into a mp3player, but it needs
: hardware acceleration. Any ideas?

: It only has ISAports

: Lars Hansen



-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MP3 Players Other Than Rio
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:09:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[trimmed newsgroups - why should this should show up im cold.system?]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher 
Browne) writes:

>Are there any of the portable MP3 players available in North America
>aside from the Diamond Rio that can happily communicate with Linux
>systems?

I don't know any others :-(

>--> The Pontis SP503
><http://www.pontis.de/site_e/produkte/pl_503_e_htm> is a German
>product that appears somewhat Europe-oriented.  (What's 230 Euro in
>USD?)

About $115, IMHO.

>My agenda is rather oriented towards the question of whether any
>support is known of for the RCA Lyra.  It supports CompactFlash cards,
>with rather more potential capacity than the 32MB (expandable to 64MB)
>of most of the players that are available now.

Highly unlikely. According to an article in c't 6/00 (a German computer
mag, I daresay *the* German computer mag ;-), the Thomson Lyra PDP2201
is the most propietary. It won't play "ordinary" mp3's, only when they
have a certain header and where transferred from the PC to the player
with their software, which is only available for winXXX.

They listed the Thrust MP3 Cyberman, Cybercomp mpgenie, Pontis MPlayer3,
Diamond Rio 500, Samsung Yepp and the Microboss MP3 Magic as well.
The only player which could be connected to a Linux box is AFAIK the
Rio, which is quite unfortunately, because it hasn't got a good
frequency spectrum compared to others (again, according to c't).

I hope that it isn't that bad,
Uli
-- 
Dipl. Inf. Ulrich Teichert|e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stormweg 24               |listening to: Poliittinen Laulu (Punk Lurex OK),
24539 Neumuenster, Germany|Windy (The Decibels), Speed Of Life (Buzzcocks)

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From: "Ziggy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: soundcard IRQ
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:24:10 +0200

I installed  a new ESS1688 and the sndconf keep telling me that the resource
are already
taken but I have not installed but the soundcard,
help
motti
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Eager)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: PS/2 serial settings, io memory and Linux?
Date: 11 Mar 2000 16:03:00 GMT

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 14:51:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg 
Schwarz) wrote:

> sure. It might however be possible to change the card's settings via a
> hacked up ADF. Can anybody say for sure whether the hardware of IBM's dual
> async card is limited to IRQs 3 and 4 only, or whether it's just IBM's ADF
> that only offers combinations with those two IRQs?

That's the point I was making. I AM saying for sure.

The field that controls the port number is three bits wide. Those 
three bits give you eight different values. Each value selects one 
port/IRQ combination. That's wired into the card. There are no other 
bits than can be altered that will affect tha card's addressability.

You can hack the ADF as much as you like, but you are still limited to
three bits that specify (by the hardware equivalent of a lookup table)
the eight settings you mentioned. There is ONE configuration register.
Three bits specify the setting for one port. Three bits specify the 
setting for the other port. One bit disables port 2. One bit disables 
the entire card.

So there is NOTHING to hack....the ADF can only do what the hardware 
specification lets it.

-- 
Bob Eager
http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages
http://change.to/ps2


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