Linux-Hardware Digest #462, Volume #12 Sun, 12 Mar 00 09:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Compatibilty with Diamond Viper V550 ("E")
Re: Sound Card Help Please ("E")
Re: Linux sucks (Rusty Lingenfelter)
Re: CMI8330 HOWTO (Anton)
Re: Linux sucks (Rusty Lingenfelter)
Re: Linux sucks (Rusty Lingenfelter)
Re: COM1 or COM2 for the ext. modem; whats optimal? (Reggie)
Re: COM1 or COM2 for the ext. modem; whats optimal? ("Wayne Monteath")
Re: HUB question (Paul Ashby)
Re: aha152x not detected ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: soundcard IRQ (Steve Martin)
Re: Real audio, /dev/mixer (Martin Booth)
Re: CDROM I/O error (denzil)
Re: Searching afther 'oki4linux-1.0.tar.gz'. (Lars Olsson)
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From: "E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compatibilty with Diamond Viper V550
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:50:23 +0100
Yes, It surely is. (All current Linuxes are compatible with this card)
Elton
Ronald A. Girogio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8abrah$thg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is Corel version Linux compatible with Diamond Viper V550 video cards?
>
>
>
>
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From: "E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Card Help Please
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:56:51 +0100
You may try to indentify the process that is using the module:
fuser /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/sb.0
this gives the process number of the process that uses sb.
With ps -ef you can check out what that process is called. You should
probably kill it then ( kill -KILL <psnumber> )
Good luck!
Elton
Bill Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ads8g$fvr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I have a red hat 6.1 installation. I tried to install one third party
sound
> card and couldn't. So i got a straight ISA sound blaster card, installed
> it. I tried running SNDCONFIG, and it says:
>
> the following error occured running the modprobe program:
> /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/sb.0:init_module: Device or resource busy
> sound: device or resource busy
>
> How do I completely uninstall my previous attempts?
> What can I do to start over? without re-installing red hat.
>
> Any suggestions are greatly appreciated
>
>
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From: Rusty Lingenfelter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:11:59 GMT
Will all of you please take this rant to an appropriate newsgroup. I=20
would suggest:
comp.os.linux.advocacy or
alt.linux.sux
As you all seem to have plenty of time to read, read a bit about=20
newsgroup etiquette. Please get the hint.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 3/12/00, 1:52:25 AM, "Orest M. A. Zarowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote =
regarding Re: Linux sucks:
> "Orest M. A. Zarowsky" wrote:
> > snipped - see original posting
> The follow-ups have been interesting reading. Especially how=20
personally some people
> are taking things. Oh well, that's the way it goes.
> I would like to thank Mr Robert W. Hall for his input. Unfortunately,=
=20
I don't live
> in the UK.
> On to the main points:
> 1) I never said that Micrsoft's documentation (or Microsoft and its=20
products) was
> anything to cheer about. Mind you, just about all the MS-based=20
documentation I've
> been seeing of late is pretty pathetic and has gotten much worse than =
it used to be.
> 2) Linux documentation is indeed much more in-depth and current than=20
MS-world
> documentation. However, the issue of the authors assuming that the=20
reader is more
> than a little knowledgeable is still true. This point has, by and=20
large, been
> ignored in many of the postings.
> 3) A fundamental point was missed - Linux is becoming increasingly=20
"popular" and
> publicized in the mainstream press (note: not the computer press). =20
This has
> significant consequences for the Linux community. The most important =
consequence is
> that many individuals with a "Windows centric" perspective will be=20
trying to install
> and use Linux. These are not going to be happy campers. Assuming=20
that the Linux
> community is serious about increasing the size of the installed base=20
significantly,
> the limitations of the Linux documentation will need to be addressed. =
=20
It doesn't
> matter if the gurus have nothing but loathing for these people, the=20
needs of
> migrants from Windows to Linux will have to be addressed. Failure to =
do so will
> guarantee that the majority of people who try to switch to Linux will =
end up
> returning to Windows and never trying anything different again. =20
Microsoft wins, we
> all lose.
> 4) I am far from thrilled by the arrogance shown by some of the people=
=20
who posted
> replies to my post and others in the thread. You know who you are. =20
It would be
> wise of you to remember that you too were once "newbies". Your current=
=20
expertise was
> achieved by a combination of your hard work AND help from people who=20
were more
> knowledgeable than you were but didn't walk around with their nose in =
the
> stratosphere.
> 5) I'm quite willing to put in the sweat to learn things like=20
networking and system
> administration, for example. I just don't see why basics like file=20
management
> should be so poorly documented. It's very difficult to play with the =
configuration
> files if one can't get to them. I'd like to leverage my existing=20
knowledge and
> skills into Linux. What is the problem with this, if you don't mind=20
my asking?
> Orest Zarowsky
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From: Anton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CMI8330 HOWTO
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:15:59 +0100
Ken McCord wrote:
> Yeah, been having ISP trouble and the site's down. My ISP closed up
> shop without warning and I'm waiting to move my server to another. It
> has been posted elsewhere, but I can't remember where off-hand. Should
> be back up in two weeks or so.
>
> Ken McCord
> Author, CMI8330 HowTo
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I've got an Asus P5AB with CMI8330 integrated audio, and I can't
> > seem to get ahold of the CMI8330 HOWTO anywhere (sites are down and
> > google cache barfs). It is my understanding that isapnptools is
> > deprecated with 2.2.x+ kernels (I'm running 2.2.14), so the mini-HOWTO
> > is out of date.
> >
> > Due to what I am assuming is PNP fun, all my IRQs and other stuff get
> > pretty much shuffled between win98 and linux, so I'm hesistant to use
> > the values reported by win98 when compiling kernel modules.
> >
> > The last time I tried to get sound working with this mobo (in 2.2.12, I
> > have since blown away that install entirely) I got tons of DMA errors
> > and it would play every frame of an mp3 (for example) three times in
> > rapid succession, once I finally got any sound out of it at all. I'd
> > like to avoid any such problems this time ;-P Any pointers would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
I don't think you'll have problems with the 2.3.x kernels (I have 2.3.34 and
it's OK)
:) just my 2c :)
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From: Rusty Lingenfelter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:12:27 GMT
Will all of you please take this rant to an appropriate newsgroup. I=20
would suggest:
comp.os.linux.advocacy or
alt.linux.sux
As you all seem to have plenty of time to read, read a bit about=20
newsgroup etiquette. Please get the hint.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 3/11/00, 11:09:52 PM, Matt Giwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: =
Linux sucks:
> Ron Parker wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I don't think this gentleman's position is based upon=
a
> > "windows centric" way of thinking. I'm not a networking guru or=20
know-it-all,
> > but I have been networking since the late 80's, and with Linux and t=
he
> > Internet since 1994. I've been in the computer business (mostly=20
software)
> > for 20 years. I have to agree: Most Linux documentation *does* suc=
k.=20
Big
> > Time. As does support from Red Hat -- you ever try to get an answer=
=20
from
> > them, or find it on their web site?
> My first FORTRAN II (before it was called 68) program compiled
> and ran as desired in Oct 1967 (six seven) and I have been around
> big time software development projects more than three times.
> Yes, the docs SUCK but that started with Unix and is only
> emulated in Linux.
> > However, that being said, Linux, and the supporting Linux community,=
=20
is a
> > great Ideal. It's capabilities as a networking engine runs circles =
around
> > anything I've ever seen from Microsoft (or Novell) -- and at a=20
fraction of
> > the cost (mostly free). The support community (newgroups, mail list=
s,=20
web
> > sites, etc...) does fill in most of the documentation gaps. And I'v=
e=20
always
> > found someone online who is helpful and knowledgable to assist me wi=
th=20
my
> > most difficult problems.
> I agree completely and while I will not swear by Linux yet, I
> have not sworn by anything since MS-DOS 6.0 so that is not an
> issue.
> > My biggest problem with the existing documentation is that there are=
=20
never
> > any real examples. People are quick to point you to "man" and=20
"HowTo", but
> > man pages never have any examples of how to use the command, and God=
=20
help you
> > if your configuration differs ever so slightly from that of the=20
configuration
> > used in the HowTo guide you happen to be studying.
> Yep! The docs are only of value after you need them no longer.
> That is a feature of Unix.
> > Therein lies your trade off: Money or elbow grease.
> >
> > For the time being, I think the best solution for Linux documentatio=
n=20
is what
> > someone said earlier in this thread: When you finally do learn how =
to=20
do
> > something, share that knowledge with others. Either document and po=
st=20
your
> > findings on the appropriate newsgroup, or browse the newsgroups=20
periodically
> > to find someone with a question you can answer.
> And watch it scroll off the day before someone needs the same
> information.
> > My two cents.
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From: Rusty Lingenfelter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux sucks
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:12:43 GMT
Will all of you please take this rant to an appropriate newsgroup. I=20
would suggest:
comp.os.linux.advocacy or
alt.linux.sux
As you all seem to have plenty of time to read, read a bit about=20
newsgroup etiquette. Please get the hint.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 3/12/00, 12:42:43 AM, "Bob May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding =
Re: Linux sucks:
> Yep, here's a John Doe type that looks at all the files on the various=
> folders and says - Why when I click on a file, nothing happens? I
> haven't even found the help files (if they exist) on the RH6.0 that I
> have. The only thing that I have found is the way to change the
> colors (to another set - not to what I want) of the display. I've
> also noted that the open panes tend to have the bottom and the right
> parts out of the display. Haven't figured out how to limit that kind
> of behavior with the few various things that I do manage to open.
> I might mention that I am quite experienced as a assembly language
> programmer with a fair number of different processors and regularly
> write code for microcontrollers for work but I find the total lack of
> a help system on the Linux to be a rather large problem.
> --
> Bob May
> I don't read attachments to posts as they may give me a
> virus If I expect an attachment from you I will open it..
> You may have a brilliant thought but if you put it into an
> attachment I won't read it and thus both you and I lose.
> I don't like to say it but unfortunatly, there are those who
> insist upon being nasty to the rest of us. Bob May
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From: Reggie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COM1 or COM2 for the ext. modem; whats optimal?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:08:38 +0100
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
I often enough get my mouse behaving irratically though, using com1
for my external modem, no irq conflicts or whatever. No clue why my
mouse behaves like that really. i use an msi k7 pro board.
Greetz,
Reggie !!!!
On 12 Mar 2000 04:29:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith R. Williams)
wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:30:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> If you were going to put an "external modem" on your PC,
>> which is the most optimal: COM1 or COM2 to avoid clashing
>> with the Mouse or other highly used periphs using COM1 or COM2?
>
>Whatever floats your boat. There is a technical difference, but
>it reality it doesn't matter.
>
>> I.e. what would give the best system performance because of
>> non-clashing interrupts. The mouse even though it is not
>> plugged into a COM port uses a COM interrupt, right?
>
>No, if it's a PS/2 mouse it uses IRQ12. Don't worry, be happy!
>
>----
> Keith
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From: "Wayne Monteath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COM1 or COM2 for the ext. modem; whats optimal?
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:34:33 GMT
COM2 uses IRQ3.
COM1 uses IRQ4
IRQ3 gets serviced (has a higher priority) before IRQ4.
So put your external modem on COM2 for optimal performance.
Wayne Monteath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article <8aeofn$24t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> If you were going to put an "external modem" on your PC,
> which is the most optimal: COM1 or COM2 to avoid clashing
> with the Mouse or other highly used periphs using COM1 or COM2?
>
> I.e. what would give the best system performance because of
> non-clashing interrupts. The mouse even though it is not
> plugged into a COM port uses a COM interrupt, right?
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
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From: Paul Ashby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HUB question
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:42:13 +0000
"Juha Lindstr�m" wrote:
>
> >
> > Ideally I want some very robust and fast hubs
> > that can be easily expanded.
> >
> So u really don't want HUBs in this case, u want Switches... buy a couple of
> good Cisco Switches and your network will be faster and much more
> expandable. and u can use those 2 hubs still with the swithces, but put them
> on different ports in it. The best part in Switches is, that they don't
> mirror all the traffic to all ports. The deliver the packages to only the
> desired port, that significantly reduces traffic in the network and thus
> makes it lot faster. And it's good for security issues too.
OK, switches sound like a good idea. Are they expensive or difficult
configure ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: aha152x not detected
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:44:41 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rebeccah H. Prastein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > > One major hurdle surmounted. I can find
the card with modprobe. Now I
> > > just need some help getting it detected at
bootup. Any ideas?
> >
> > append aha152x=port,irq to the kernel
parameters in you lilo.conf
> >
>
> When I rerun /sbin/lilo after
modifying /etc/lilo.conf, I get a syntax
> error associated with that line. Also,
specifying the kernel parameters
> manually at the bootprompt (boot: linux
aha152x=0x340,11,7,1) doesn't
> work, either.
>
> Rebeccah
>
Hi, Rebeccah. I've been struggling with the same
problems you have, and I think I've stumbled
across the solution. I put the line "modprobe
aha152x aha152x=0x340,11,7,1" in
the /usr/rc.d/rc.sysinit script. Works like a
charm. Now if I can just crack the code on
getting Linux to recognize my sound card. :->}
Hope this helps,
Bob Kline
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: soundcard IRQ
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 07:57:09 -0500
> I installed a new ESS1688 and the sndconf keep telling me that the resource
> are already
> taken but I have not installed but the soundcard,
I had a no-name ESS1688 card that came from the factory with the IRQ
jumpered as IRQ7, which is the same IRQ as the printer port. Check to
see if that's the case. I moved mine to IRQ5 and it worked like a charm.
Hope this helps.
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From: Martin Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Real audio, /dev/mixer
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:22:36 +0000
> unles the site allows it you can only play the REal Audio files thru the
> Real Audio player. Unless they have a link to the actual file it wont
> download, only play through the player.
Irritating bu fair enough.
> are u running it all as root or as a regular user?
As root, I'm just trying to intercept the data before it hits the sound card
it should be in PCM (at a guess) and should be usable, I'm a bit rough on
those nuts and bolts of the system for this, could I modify the /etc/dsp to
point to a file to capture this data? If so do you know how?
Thanks for the reply.
Martin Booth.
P.S. For E-mail use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!
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From: denzil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM I/O error
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:10:23 +0000
Christopher,
I am getting extacly the same problem here and am desperately trying to
solve it. Please let me know if you get any joy with this.
Damon
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Christopher Liu wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, you wild and crazy guy! Sorry, couldn't help
> but comment on that. Anyway, I'm sure the kernel has the support for both
> IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs and ISO9660. I ran 'cat /proc/devices' and 'cat
> /proc/filesystems', both of which yielded the proper results. I hope I'm
> on the right track here with this speed difference, otherwise I might be
> forced to run Windows 2000 on this system...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christopher Liu
>
> Steve Martin wrote:
>
> > > I'm having difficulty with my I/O Magic 40x CDROM while installing
> > > Slackware 7.0.
> >
> > I haven't fooled with Slackware for some time, but I can think of two
> > things right off that might cause this problem under normal usage:
> > lack of IDE CD-ROM support in the kernel and lack of ISO9660
> > filesystem support in the kernel. I don't remember what drivers are
> > included in the two boot images you quoted, so I can't be of much
> > more help. However, you must have such support in the kernel before
> > you can mount the CD.
> >
> > Forgive me if this seems like I'm asking stupid questions... just
> > trying to help.
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From: Lars Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Searching afther 'oki4linux-1.0.tar.gz'.
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:34:32 +0100
http://www.ssmsoftware.dk/oki4linux
Bengt-Arne Johansson wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm searching afther a printer driver that was at
> 'ftp://develop.dacotec.net/oki4linux-1.0.tar.gz' earlier. It's now gone and
> I have not find it on any other place on th net.
>
> If someone knows where to find it or has it then please tell me.
>
> Or if there is any newer whit maybe a new name or something...
>
> Thanks
>
> Bengt-Arne
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