Linux-Hardware Digest #631, Volume #12 Thu, 6 Apr 00 20:13:40 EDT
Contents:
Does anybody understand this? (Massimo Morin)
Re: high altitude modern systems performance ("David Rencher")
Re: high altitude modern systems performance (Kenneth Mankoff)
Re: Abit BP6 ("Fran�ois Biot")
Re: HP 880c and Linux RH 6.2 (Martin Vonwald)
Re: AMD-K6-2: 586 or 686? (Dragos-Anton Manolescu)
Re: Extra strings for printer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not. (Michael Kelly)
Re: ATA66 PROBLEMS?? SOLUTION HERE ("David St.Clair")
Re: Adaptec 19160 Ultra 160 (Joel Hoffman)
printer (Michael Ghens)
I think I have a hardware problem (^^NeO^^)
Re: RH6.1 and VIA KX133 based motherboards (Thayer Andrews)
disk (hda) "Device not configured" error (Rob Urban)
Help my s3 trio 3d/2x AGP don't work (Krlos)
CDROM problem: Acer 50X (Steve Cousins)
Optra 40..who can help me to order ..; (Matthias Mulumba LUMALA)
Re: How to build a parallel port tester? (Rolie Baldock)
Re: high altitude modern systems performance ("David Rencher")
Re: disk (hda) "Device not configured" error (Michael Kelly)
Re: Anyone aware of problems with K6-3 and Mandrake/ RH 6.0 ? (Scott Alfter)
Re: Help my s3 trio 3d/2x AGP don't work ("Ron Leopoldt")
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From: Massimo Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Does anybody understand this?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:51:14 -0400
Hi,
just installed a machine with RH6.1
I got htis and the process that generated it is in a weird frozen state.
(happend to gpm, rm, kswap...)
Any comment is very welcome:
[root@saturn /root]> uname -a
Linux saturn 2.2.12-20 #1 Mon Sep 27 10:40:35 EDT 1999 i686 unknown
[root@saturn /root]> tail /var/log/messages
Apr 6 17:53:52 saturn kernel: Code: 89 50 34 c7 01 00 00 00 00 89 02 c7
41 34 00 00 00 00 ff 0d
Apr 6 17:54:27 saturn telnetd[4742]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid or
incomplete multibyte or wide character
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at
virtual address 00008034
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 0175f000, %cr3 =
0175f000
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: *pde = 00000000
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Oops: 0002
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: CPU: 0
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: EIP: 0010:[remove_from_queues+169/328]
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: eax: 00008000 ebx: c557dc20 ecx:
c557dc20 edx: c7f64ee0
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: esi: c557dc20 edi: 00000000 ebp:
c033adb8 esp: c1763f1c
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Process gpm (pid: 437, process nr: 18,
stackpage=c1763000)
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Stack: c557dc20 c0127e79 c557dc20
c033adb8 000001f3 00000015 080532fe c011cfde
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: c033adb8 0000001d 00000006
c0121cf2 00000006 00000015 00000001 00000015
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: c1762000 c0121e2b 00000015
c1762000 fffffff4 c0122600 00000015 c1762000
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Call Trace: [try_to_free_buffers+69/132]
[shrink_mmap+214/300] [do_try_to_free_pages+38/120]
[try_to_free_pages+35/48] [__get_free_pages+104/640]
[process_timeout+0/16] [getname+25/148]
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: [sys_open+12/148]
[system_call+52/56]
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Code: 89 50 34 c7 01 00 00 00 00 89 02 c7
41 34 00 00 00 00 ff 0d
Apr 6 17:56:29 saturn telnetd[7875]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid or
incomplete multibyte or wide character
Apr 6 17:58:31 saturn telnetd[9727]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid or
incomplete multibyte or wide character
Apr 6 18:00:33 saturn telnetd[9958]: ttloop: peer died: Invalid or
incomplete multibyte or wide character
....
[root@saturn /root]> cat /var/log/messages | grep " saturn kernel:
Process"
Apr 6 13:29:39 saturn kernel: Process umount (pid: 1328, process nr:
11, stackpage=c4e4b000)
Apr 6 17:45:02 saturn kernel: Process rm (pid: 4151, process nr: 60,
stackpage=c46a7000)
Apr 6 17:53:50 saturn kernel: Process kswapd (pid: 5, process nr: 5,
stackpage=c7fb1000)
Apr 6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Process gpm (pid: 437, process nr: 18,
stackpage=c1763000)
[root@saturn /root]>
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From: "David Rencher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: high altitude modern systems performance
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:46:50 -0600
>Never heard of cabin presurization? You'll expire long before the laptop
>malfunctions.
1. You ever noticed that pressurized cabins aren't pressurized to sea level?
Closer to about 8,000 feet if I remember right.
2. You ever noticed that on an airplace they don't pressurize the whole
thing? Thus electornic equipment is left in unpressurized areas.
Airframes STILL have to have systems that function in low pressure
environments regardless of cabin pressurization. I doubt a laptop on an
airframe will fail in the few hours it's there. But long term exposure to
low pressure environs could have effects on electronics. It's still just a
theory that I proposed earlier in the thread but it's a plaussible theory.
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From: Kenneth Mankoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: high altitude modern systems performance
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:14:21 -0600
>>Never heard of cabin presurization? You'll expire long before the laptop
>>malfunctions.
>1. You ever noticed that pressurized cabins aren't pressurized to sea level?
>Closer to about 8,000 feet if I remember right.
7000 feet. And i live at 10,000 feet. So i live above the level most
people "fly" at even when they are at 42,000 feet. Airplanes also have all
their electronics specially protected from high energy particles. Not sure
about pressure.
And i rarely bring my laptop down to work (5500 feet). Even if i did, that
trip would be less than the 0 to 7k that most people experience when they
fly. So pressure change due to the commute is not the cause.
Again, pressure change at the house is frequent and large due to the
weather patterns moving over the continental divide and then down to the
great plains.
My stuff fails in 2 to 3 months. But my sisters modem did in 3 days
(chance?). Here is the best theory i have so far:
hd's fail because of the air pressure. They have breather holes and there
is not enough air to keep the read/write heads off of the disk, so it
damages it. Takes a few months to happen but will probably continue to
happen.
modem/mobo's fail because of the heat. Maybe somethign due to the sealant
expanding and cracking which causes some of the little gold wires to break
also, but that sealant probably breaks/expands due to the heat. THere is
no mass with which to remove the heat from the laptop. Plus, laptops don't
rely on fans as much as the desktops. Laptops heatsink the heat off of the
boards and processors _into_ the case. The case is then supposed ot
dissapate into the surrounding air. yes, they have fans, but the fan is
not the main (or only) source of heat dissipation.
I bet if i get a desktop with SLOW rpm's for the drives and an extra fan i
will run fine. Not sure...
-ken.
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From: "Fran�ois Biot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Abit BP6
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:22:27 +0200
Almost the same for me. I've got a Abit BP6 motherboard with two Celeron 366
overclocked up to 450Mhz !!!
I'm a software developper, so I've frequently used a make -j 5 (for building
the kernel also, and that is a long time test) !
As I loved to see CPU's running, I often run severall programs together,
with a single goal, approach as far as possible one hundred % for
each CPU ! I experienced twice a total lock of my computer within 3 months.
Hum... twice a lock on Linux wich is very often used,
... a hundred times perhaps with my *%%$^$*�^$ of Win98 !!! Which is lessly
used (30% -> 70% linux).
Have fun with pinguins !
David Rencher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >Hi. Hate to be the one to report it, but I was just reading
> >a web site yesterday, which reports on compatibility of hardware
> >with Linux, and I was checking out the Abit BP6 because I wanted
> I seriously doubt the validity of that article. I have a BP6 with both
> processors over clocked from 400 to 570. I've run Linux on it and put a
> full 100% load on both processors and never had any problems at all.
> Admitedly the load was SETI@HOME so I can't say that I really tested this
> claim but both processors were running at 100% and I never once had a
> problem outside of a silly power supply rebooting the system once in a
> while.
>
> Dave
>
>
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From: Martin Vonwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP 880c and Linux RH 6.2
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:18:32 +0200
Jie Ding wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My RH6.2 prints wired thing on HP880c. Where can I download drivers for 880?
>
> Thanks,
> Jie
>
>
http://www.proaxis.com/~mgelhaus/linux/software/hp880c/hp880c.html
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Subject: Re: AMD-K6-2: 586 or 686?
From: Dragos-Anton Manolescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 Apr 2000 15:29:09 -0500
>>> J Bland writes:
Thanks. FWIW, I compiled my kernel for PPro and so far it works like a
charm. However, I haven't looked to see whether the two options so
actually generate different code. Considering your answer, I am
tempted to say that (with my kernel options at least) the code is the
same.
-Dragos
>> I thought I try this one more time since so far nobody answered my
>> question. Thanks!
jb> K6-2 : 5th gen chip
jb> i586
jb> "Pentium/K6/TSC" option when compiling a kernel.
jb> AFAIK.
jb> JB
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Extra strings for printer
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:39:12 +0000
That's what you got for the extra $ that the LJ4 costs.
I tried this and my output came out double size (width and height). If I check the
4 frames/page button on the filter select dialog the printer takes a lot longer to
process the page like it is doing 600x600 and the output is normal size.
But I'm a doubting Thomas so I put it on a measuring microscope and sure enough
the steps around a circle are 0.0033" (1/300).
Before any says it, no I don't read my output with a microscope, I'm doing some
PC board layout work and could use finer detail.
I think my solution is in the <extra ghostscript options> box, but I can't find the
right
string. Guess I may have to read the ghost script manual. It looks like it covers
everything but I sure is big :-(
Frank Stratmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
>>
>> gtaylors printer database tells me I can use 600x600 on my printer (BROTHER HL-1240)
>> by sending a PJL Statement:
>> <ESC>%-12345X@PJL SET RESOLUTION=600
>>
>> I set up the printer with printtool using the Laserjet 4/5/6 driver, works great at
>300x300.
>>
>> Anybody got any hints on how to send a PJL Statement?
>
> I do so too, but printtool gives me the choice of selecting either
> 300x300 or 600x600
> I am using Laserjet 4/5/6 non Postscript.
> Within printtool select your printer, press "edit", and then press
> "select" next to input filter. Within this dialog I can setup the
> filters behaviour.
> I am using RedHat 6.1 including the RPM updates from their server.
>
> I hope this will also work for you
>
> Frank Stratmann
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not.
Date: 6 Apr 2000 20:35:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> muttered...
>> Folks,
>>
[snip]
> However my previous point
> still stands, that Joe bloggs who buys his PC from PC world is not going
> to have a clue what to do with an OS like linux. Even with the improved
> hardware installation and GUIs, it still requires a certain amount of
> computer knowledge and experience. An average user likes to double click
> on setup, and 2 minutes later have a working program, getting them to
> tar, ./configure, gmake, su, gmake etc is not practical to them.
Hi. I find your observations interesting since I come from Dos
myself. Started with an 8088 that ran at 7.16 MHZ *if* the Turbo
switch was on! :)
I think you're comparing Linux you have to install with Win9x pre-installed
machines. There's a big difference between a plain old user plugging in
the color-coded wires and powering up the machine, and doing that and
then putting in all the product codes and installing layered software!
How many users would get through installing Windows9x and all the office
software and other utilities without resorting to a support call?
When Linux comes already on the drive, power up and go, then it will be
a fairer comparison.
>
> But I personally love linux now, (for example, I have spent ages using
> different programs, and writing scripts for IRC on Win, only to find
> that xchat already does most of what I want) and only return to win2K to
> play TFC.
>
> Although I'll be happier once I've got my mousewheel working and my TV
> card running...
>
I'm with you on the mouse wheel thing! :)
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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From: "David St.Clair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATA66 PROBLEMS?? SOLUTION HERE
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:50:24 -0400
Any ideas on how to get a Quantum Fireball Plus KA to work? Apparently, from what
I've read, it's one of the few non-working ATA66 drives...I have to use ATA33. When I
boot,
it hangs at IRQ detection.
David St.Clair
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is for the Highpoint and Promise ones...
>
> Step one: Get the latest kernel (currently 2.3.51 but 2.4 will have it)
>
> Step two: Compile and install
>
> Step Three: Your hda will be hde unless you compile the pci ide controller as ide0
>and ide1 adn motherboard ones aas ide2 and ide3 so you will have to change lilo and
>fstab.
>
> Step Four: Reboot and watch it work if you did everything right.
>
> --
> Brad R ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 19160 Ultra 160
Date: 6 Apr 2000 20:50:18 GMT
: This seems to be an urgent legend. The card is a normal 32Bit PCI card.
It's not an urban legend. The 29160 is 64-bit PCI. The 29160N (which I think
Linux supports) is the 32-bit PCI version. Check out Adaptec's website:
http://www.adaptec.com/products/overview/ultra160scsi.html#29160N
--
Joel Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OIT Webmaster (541) 885 1165
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Ghens)
Subject: printer
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:27:09 -0700
I have a problem getting a RH 6.1 to use the parallel printer.
I have kernel 2.2.14 compiled with lp.o.
When I try to get it to fire up:
insmod lp.o
I get this message:
/lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/lp.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
in messages:
Apr 6 13:16:53 anchovy modprobe: can't locate module parport_lowlevel
Apr 6 13:16:54 anchovy insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/lp.o: init_module:
Device or resource busy
Apr 6 13:16:54 anchovy kernel: lp: no devices found
Any Suggestions apprectiated
TIA
Michael
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From: ^^NeO^^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I think I have a hardware problem
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:10:48 +0200
Hi there.
I got 2 different distro's from a freind of mine, one was Mandrakw 5.3,
the other was slackware 3.6. I had troubles installing both of them.
I got a error message when intsalling slackware thatwrote :
hda: irq timeout: status = 0x58 {DriveReady Seekcomplete
DataRequest }
ide0: reset: success
I think i got the same problem when installing Mandrake, but i just
couldn't see it, but it was stalling ever now and then. Now when I play
around in the command line I get the same message, and when I working
with X windows, it locks up for a while then goes again, I'm assuming
it's the same problem.
If you could help me I would be very grateful.
Garth
^^NeO^^
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From: Thayer Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.1 and VIA KX133 based motherboards
Date: 6 Apr 2000 21:09:32 GMT
Thanks for the helpful information. I just put the last pieces
of this system together and so far everthing looks good. RH6.1
installed no problem (although I can't say the same for win98).
Thanks again.
-Thayer
Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Thayer Andrews wrote:
:> Does anyone out there have any experience with this setup?
:> Specifically I'm looking at the EpoX EX-7KXA (I think I got
:> that right) motherboard with an Athlon 700. I've read quite
:> a few good reviews of this board (and the KX133 chipset) but
:> none of them mention Linux compatibility.
:>
:> Any info you could provide would be much appreciated.
: Got the 700 Athlon on the new Gigabyte 133 board. Great! Just don't get the
: new SB 128 pci - new chip. not supported yet.
: --
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From: Rob Urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: disk (hda) "Device not configured" error
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:36:10 +0200
Hello,
does anyone have a clue why trying to install Redhat 6.1 on an IBM
sTinkpad 600E with a 6GB disk fails on each attempt shortly
after specifying keyboard and language with the complaint that
the harddisk is not available? ("device not configured").
cat /proc/partitions reports only "hdc" (presumably the CDROM)
cat /proc/ide/ide0/model reports "none"
The disk has a single DOS partition of 2GB on it. Win98 boots without
problem from this partition.
ideas?
Rob Urban
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From: Krlos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help my s3 trio 3d/2x AGP don't work
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:41:59 -0700
My AGP video card S3 trio 3D/2X work so slow. I have red
hat 6.1 with xfree86 3.5
I was reading each document on de world about this problem,
but nobody say step by step how to make this card work...
If you can help, i'll apreciate that, because i'm really
tired...
Thanks
PD: Sorry about my poor english...
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From: Steve Cousins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDROM problem: Acer 50X
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:32:16 -0400
Hi,
I have just replaced my IDE ATAPI cdrom with a new one. I installed
Redhat 6.1 from it fine but now when I boot up, when it gets to loading
hdc I get the following:
hdc:packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
Error }
hdc:packet command error: error=0x54
ATAPI device hdc:
Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
Parameter list length error -- (asc=0x1a, ascq=0x00)
The failed "Mode Sense" packet command was:
"5a 00 2a 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 "
This repeats 3 times. When I try to mount ( mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc
/mnt/cdrom ) I get the message:
mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: Wrong medium type
The first line of this is normal of course but the second one is a
problem. This _is_ an iso9660 cd. I know it is because sometimes it
actually works. The only condition that I have found that it works is:
1. boot into console mode of linux
2. mount immediately after logging in.
If I go into X-Windows I then start getting the Wrong medium type
message.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Steve
P.S. I have no problem with this drive when I boot into Windows 2000
although that isn't something that I like to do.
_____________________________________________________________
Steve Cousins Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Research Associate Phone: (207) 581-4302
Ocean Modeling Group
School of Marine Sciences 208 Libby Hall
University of Maine Orono, Maine 04469
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From: Matthias Mulumba LUMALA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Optra 40..who can help me to order ..;
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:38:36 +0200
Hi,
I'm looking for a US resident who will order an Optra 40 Color
printer on my behalf at Buy.com's Clearance Sale. I stay in France. I
tried to place the order myself but only to find out that the goods they
sell online are only deliverable at a US address! Nor do they accept
payments from abroad for delivery in the US.
I really need this printer as it seems to be the only Inkjet postscript
printer at such a low price.(currently selling at some $85). Here in
France Lexmark offers an Optra 45n at $700, which I cannot afford!
If anyone is willing to help then email me at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You order the printer, get it delivered to your home (shipment is free),
then reship it to me thru UPS or other carrier. You give me the total
cost and I'll send you the money before reshipment, trust me. I can as
much as $200. Low cost shipment that may take even 2 months is no
problem. I can wait, the important thing being to have it some place
before the stock is over. There are still > 300 Optra's in stock but it
won't take long before they are sold out!
Thanks to those who reply. Here's my email address
again:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolie Baldock)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.misc,sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.basics
Subject: Re: How to build a parallel port tester?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:53:53 GMT
I have a design for a unit which when fed from a printer port lights a
set of LEDs to a pattern you set up with software. I can't send you
the circuit unless you send me your postal address as I have no means
for sending circuits via email.
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:30:05 +0200, timo raty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I need to build a simple tester for finding out
>the data on the parallel port of a PC. Currently I have
>two BCD 7-segment displays connected to the data outputs
>of the port and powered by an external power supply. The
>problem is that the OS (Linux) should see the device as
>a printer - or have some other means of simple programming
>on it. The OS, however, doesn't seem to see anything on
>the port. I guess this has something to do (with me being
>a sw guy and) with the acknowledges and port status information
>of the parallel port. The question is how do I pass this
>information from the simple device? Or what is the easiest
>way of driving a device through parallel port so that the
>software can be written totally in user space, i.e. no
>kernel modifications, nor module drivers needed?
>
> Please help me out with this hobby project! I do
>know that there is a FAQ for this somewhere but I haven't
>yet found it...
>
> regards,
>
> timo raty
>ps. please reply via mail if possible
--Rolie Baldock. email: <berd_kalamunda@'nospam'techemail.com>
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From: "David Rencher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: high altitude modern systems performance
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:54:28 -0600
Try the desktop idea but do what you can to find drive's without breather
holes. They're hard to come by but you can find them. I suppose you could
buy one at sane altitude and seal the breather hole. I'd like to see
that... could be pretty funny.
Anyway, this one is interesting, keep us posted.
Dave
Kenneth Mankoff wrote in message ...
>>>Never heard of cabin presurization? You'll expire long before the laptop
>>>malfunctions.
>>1. You ever noticed that pressurized cabins aren't pressurized to sea
level?
>>Closer to about 8,000 feet if I remember right.
>7000 feet. And i live at 10,000 feet. So i live above the level most
>people "fly" at even when they are at 42,000 feet. Airplanes also have all
>their electronics specially protected from high energy particles. Not sure
>about pressure.
>
>And i rarely bring my laptop down to work (5500 feet). Even if i did, that
>trip would be less than the 0 to 7k that most people experience when they
>fly. So pressure change due to the commute is not the cause.
>
>Again, pressure change at the house is frequent and large due to the
>weather patterns moving over the continental divide and then down to the
>great plains.
>
>My stuff fails in 2 to 3 months. But my sisters modem did in 3 days
>(chance?). Here is the best theory i have so far:
>
>hd's fail because of the air pressure. They have breather holes and there
>is not enough air to keep the read/write heads off of the disk, so it
>damages it. Takes a few months to happen but will probably continue to
>happen.
>
>modem/mobo's fail because of the heat. Maybe somethign due to the sealant
>expanding and cracking which causes some of the little gold wires to break
>also, but that sealant probably breaks/expands due to the heat. THere is
>no mass with which to remove the heat from the laptop. Plus, laptops don't
>rely on fans as much as the desktops. Laptops heatsink the heat off of the
>boards and processors _into_ the case. The case is then supposed ot
>dissapate into the surrounding air. yes, they have fans, but the fan is
>not the main (or only) source of heat dissipation.
>
>I bet if i get a desktop with SLOW rpm's for the drives and an extra fan i
>will run fine. Not sure...
>
>-ken.
>
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disk (hda) "Device not configured" error
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:10:21 -0400
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:36:10 +0200, Rob Urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>The disk has a single DOS partition of 2GB on it. Win98 boots without
>problem from this partition.
How 'bout some particulars as to drive controllers etc?
Is Win98 still on the machine? If so, you can get some
info from Device Manager.
A good resource is
www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Anyone aware of problems with K6-3 and Mandrake/ RH 6.0 ?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:25:00 GMT
In article <xCSG4.785$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Cyberchondri@c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I put a K6-3 in my machine, and a TNT at the same time.
>Long story short, I screwed up X, wound up reinstalling Mandrake 6.0 from
>scratch. Or at least, tried to. Signal 11 errors everytime. Put my Intel
>233MMX back in, no problems.
>I properly set the multipliers and core voltages for both.
>I even tried plain vanilla RH 6, that crashed.
>Seems K6-3 is RH 6.0 linux unfriendly ?
Given that Linux is Linux and I've been running Corel Linux for a bit on my
450-MHz K6-III, there's nothing about the processor that would conflict with
Linux. What motherboard are you using? A K6-III draws significantly more
power than your P5-MMX; if the voltage regulators on the motherboard aren't
up to scratch, you'll run into problems. Ideally, you'll have a motherboard
that's on the approved list (http://www1.amd.com/K6/k6mbl/). (Mine's on an
FIC VA-503+ that previously held a 300-MHz K6-2; a BIOS upgrade was all it
needed.)
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From: "Ron Leopoldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help my s3 trio 3d/2x AGP don't work
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:34:43 -0700
Reply-To: "Ron Leopoldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I also had a problem. Had to select "unlisted" video card from the list of
cards (way at the end of the list). Then had to select the VGA server. I
can only get 640 x 480 resolution with this setup, but at least it's
working.
"Krlos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My AGP video card S3 trio 3D/2X work so slow. I have red
> hat 6.1 with xfree86 3.5
>
> I was reading each document on de world about this problem,
> but nobody say step by step how to make this card work...
>
> If you can help, i'll apreciate that, because i'm really
> tired...
>
> Thanks
>
> PD: Sorry about my poor english...
>
>
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