Linux-Hardware Digest #631, Volume #14           Mon, 16 Apr 01 08:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Looking for a linux book ("Hello")
  2.4.3, ATA100 & Hedrick's patches ("Pavan")
  Re: Linux and at66? (Nader)
  Re: Looking for a linux book ("Hello")
  PCMCIA? (Michael Fakaro)
  Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video? (Drew Roedersheimer)
  Re:  Re: hdc: lost interrupt (62.2.107.44 [Colin Boyan])
  Re: DVD players for Linux? (Samuel Hocevar)
  Re: very bad performance. what can I do? (Joeri Sebrechts)
  Re: Promise RAID Controller ("Jason Lu")
  FlexATX motherboard for Linux? (Simon South)
  Problems probing D-Link DFE-530TX ("Beetlejuice")
  Re: Microsoft gets hard (Matthew Gardiner)
  Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video? (Joeri Sebrechts)
  Problem configuring HP Deskjet 820 Cxi (Benjamin Gufler)
  Test ("Juan A. Rico")
  Re: Adaptec ACB-4070 bridgeboard. any software laying around (Steven N. Hirsch)
  Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice? ("Peter T. Breuer")

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From: "Hello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
ahn.tech.linux,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Looking for a linux book
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:16:10 GMT

SuSE, specifically, comes with /great/ documentation. there's probably a way
of ordering their "handbook" somewhere off their site.

> And can anyone tell mea good book for SuSE Linux??



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From: "Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.4.3, ATA100 & Hedrick's patches
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:03:16 +0530

Hi,

My kernel 2.4.3(vanilla) compiled with via IDE chipset support detects
my 686b chipset at bootup and even runs my IBM Deskstar 75GXP at
ATA100(according to boot messages).

So why are the hedrick patches required? Isn't my hdd running at
ata100 even though hdparm and dmesg say ata100(udma5)?

hdparm -t gives 25 MB/s

Please help...

-Pavan





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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and at66?
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:34:12 -0700

What kernel version are you using?  If it is 2.2.x or less then you may need
to pass IDE parameters on the kernel boot command line to get it to recognize
the HD.  See the Linux Howto for UDMA66 (http://linux.nf/stepbystep.htm)

Once you have completed your install, you should upgrade to kernel 2.4.2
which has UDMA66 support built in.  You then will not have to pass the kernel
parameters.

cubaallstars wrote:

> Ok here goes i installed turbolinux 6 on my machine after much trouble.Im
> very new to linux and i though it would be a dodle how wrong i was.
>
> It ran well, but at the time of installation i didnt have udma66 cable for
> my harddisk so it was attached to a ata 33 port which is IDE1 on my mobo.
>
> So i bought a udma cable and attached my harddisk to the ata 66 port at
> which point it all goes bad.
>
> I rebotted and tryed to boot linux it booted for a while and then reported
> it was unable to mount the FS which i assume is the file system.
>
> Well after all the other probs i decided to take the heavy handed approach
> and wipe the partion and reboot. Oh i forgot to mention its a dual boot
> system with win ME.
>
> Well no the installtuion says it cant detect any disks!!!
>
> But windows still works fine whats this about!!


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From: "Hello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
ahn.tech.linux,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Looking for a linux book
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:06:49 GMT

oh and...one thing to mention if you don't need a physical book...you could
look on the CD-Rom for the PDF version...

"Hello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:K6wC6.13369$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> SuSE, specifically, comes with /great/ documentation. there's probably a
way
> of ordering their "handbook" somewhere off their site.
>
> > And can anyone tell mea good book for SuSE Linux??
>
>



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From: Michael Fakaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCMCIA?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:08:01 -0700

I've managed to read up and to install my PCMCIA adapter and load the 
modules.

It is recognized and beeps when the card goes in, it also shows up in my 
PCMCIA preferences as a loaded ATA/IDE fixed disc in slot one.

so far so good... I thought

So my question is how do I mount it, and browse it???

I tried using webmin, it shows the drive as hde1 but when I try to mount it 
it says it does not exist.

So I went to the command line and..

I tried "mount -t vfat  /dev/hde /mnt/pcmcia1" it states wrong file system

I tried "mount -t vfat  /dev/hde1 /mnt/pcmcia1" it states special device 
doesn't exist

hde exists in the /dev directory but hde1 doesn't

I put pcmcia1 & pcmcia2 in the /mnt directory myself

I can't find any documentation on it!... any ideas??

Thanks

Mike

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Drew Roedersheimer)
Subject: Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:58:08 GMT

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:01:27 GMT, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy) wrote:
>
>> Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > Time I upgrade the system though. I've learned the ways of debian are
>> > far superior to the poorly designed redhat :-)
>> 
>> Preach it, brother!
>
>Redhat and Mandrake are designed to be newbie-oriented.
>Which, in itself, is not a bad thing.  
>
>- jonadab


I agree with both of you...I cut my teeth on RedHat, but after about 6 
months, and alot of man page reading, I decided to try Debian - I'll 
never go back.

As far as newbies and Debian go, Progeny *may* be the answer - I haven't
tried it though.


just my $0.02
-DR

-- 
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come.
                 -- Victor Hugo

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From: 62.2.107.44 [Colin Boyan]
Subject: Re:  Re: hdc: lost interrupt
Date: 16 Apr 2001 07:39:59 GMT

Just wanted to let you know that I found the (or an) answer .....
I added append="hdc=cdrom" to my lilo.conf file and this solved the problem. Obviously 
this is telling the kernel something about the characteristics of this device but I 
don't pretend to understand exactly what effect this has.  I can't help but wonder if 
there is another way to get the same effect.

No matter - everything works like a charm now.

Thanks for replying.

Col


> Colin and Julie Boyan wrote:
> 
> > I have been searching all over the place for the solution to this problem. I
> > have seen the same question asked many times but haven't yet seen an answer
> > ....
> > 
> > I have installed RH7.0 on a PIII-933 with intel 815 chipset.
> > 
> > I have 2x IDE drives on the first controller port and a panasonic CD-ROM by
> > itself (with the appropriate jumper set) on the second port.  I am running
> > kernel version 2.2.16-22 and looking at the boot messages I see that the
> > CD-ROM is recognised and configured correctly.  I have checked
> > /proc/interrupts and there does not appear to be any conflict there.  I also
> > tried turning off DMA access to this device but it was already off and
> > cannot be changed it would seem.
> > 
> > The CD-ROM can be mounted and I can read data off it using dd but it these
> > operations both take a long time (3-5 minutes to mount) and there is a
> > stream of hdc: lost interrupt messages in the log.
> > 
> > Can anyone help ??
> 
> I had a similar situation.  Take the case cover off and wiggle the power
> source to the device.  In my case it was a bad splitter.
> 
> Rinaldi
> -- 
> We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds.
> --Linus Torvalds


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Samuel Hocevar)
Subject: Re: DVD players for Linux?
Date: 16 Apr 2001 08:41:56 GMT

On 15 Apr 2001 19:59:18 GMT,
Marc Ariberti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can find sources, tarballs, .deb... archive at the following address
> 
>                   http://www.videolan.org

   If you have troube reading a DVD with version 0.2.71, I suggest you
try version .70 until .72 is out, a little bug was introduced which made
vlc fail to read some DVDs (not all though).

Sam.
-- 
Samuel Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://sam.zoy.org/>
for DVDs in Linux screw the MPAA and ; do dig $DVDs.z.zoy.org ; done | \
      perl -ne 's/\.//g; print pack("H224",$1) if(/^x([^z]*)/)' | gunzip

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From: Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: very bad performance. what can I do?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:52:12 GMT

Tom Roberts wrote:
> Jan Buckow wrote:
> > # hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
> > /dev/hda:
> >  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  1.01 seconds =126.73 MB/sec
> >  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in 33.65 seconds =  1.90 MB/sec
> I have an 800 MHz Athlon with PC133 memory, and a UDMA-100 7200 RPM
> hard disk. The key to improving disk performance is enabling DMA -- most
> Linux distributions default to no DMA, which really hurts performance (but
> makes every IDE drive work -- some ancient drives cannot support DMA).
> that is: hdparm -d 1 /dev/hd?

There's no guarantee that it'll work. Firstly, you can only set dma to
the common denominator of the devices on your ide chain. So if your
udma/33 cd and your udma/66 harddisk are connected to the same cable,
you're limited to udma/33 (at least that's what they told me)
Secondly, if you enable dma with -d 1 it will try the highest dma
setting that the drive reports being able to do, which on any modern
motherboard is at least udma/66. But. If you can only do udma/33
(because there's another udma/33 device on the chain, or because your
motherboard only supports as high as udma/33) it won't work, so you'll
have to manually give the argument to set it to, for example, udma/33
(which is -X66). I had to do this on a system of mine where enabling dma
either gave a bunch of errors, or made the system crash.

And another thing. Enable 32 bit IO (hdparm -c 1 /dev/hd?). It will add
a bit of speed on top of dma. Not much, maybe not even noticeable, but
it's there.

And finally, you need to fix these settings with hdparm -k 1 /dev/hd?
That makes linux remember the settings across ide resets (don't know how
often these occur), and you need to place them in your bootscripts,
because every time your reboot they're gone.

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From: "Jason Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise RAID Controller
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:54:51 +0800
Reply-To: "Jason Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

PROMISE support driver for RedHat 6.2 & 7.0



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> Anyone have drivers for the Promise IDE RAID controllers (esp. the
> Fastrack100)? Anyone using this controller with Linux?
>
> thx . . .
>
>
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From: Simon South <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FlexATX motherboard for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:42:52 -0700

Does anyone have any knowledge of which FlexATX motherboards work well
with Linux?

My goal is to assemble a very small, very quiet Linux box, most likely
using one of the newer VIA CyrixIII processors and Red Hat 7.0.  There
are a number of i810e-based motherboards that seem perfect for the job,
and the on-board components (video, LAN) seem to be supported under
Linux, but I haven't had much luck tracking down user accounts of which
boards work and which don't.

So far, I've read that:

- The Intel D810EMO board works, but has been superseded by the
(untested?) D810E2CB:
http://www.riverdale.k12.or.us/linux/terminal_guide.html

- The Tyan Tomcat S2420 doesn't seem to work:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=s2420+linux&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=1&seld=954539282&ic=1

Can anybody offer any further advice?  Specifically, does anyone know if
the ECS P6IWP-Fe board will work with Linux?  It's available at a very
attractive price from a local dealer...

Thanks, everyone, for any help you can offer.

-- 
Simon South
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Beetlejuice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems probing D-Link DFE-530TX
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:05:56 +0200

Hi there,

I bought this NIC 2 weeks ago. I installed it on a potato. (Via-Rhine driver
I think, but now I'm not too sure...)
It worked fine under Windows and Debian altogether. BUT, I installed a new
kernel (2.4.2), couldn't access network anymore. As I didn't make any rescue
kernel, I tried to install everything new.
I installed Windows again (which was very slow...I mean VERY SLOW to start
and run. Now it's better...) and my NIC works fine.
I installed Linux, and there is no way to probe the D-Link NIC. I tried to
change the PCI ports without much success.

As it works under Windows, I don't thing it's a hardware problem. So what's
the deal?

thX




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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:12:39 +1200

JS PL wrote:
> 
> "unicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 
> > Of course there's a name for companies that trusted Microsoft as a
> busniess
> > partner...extinct!
> 
> Which one is extinct? There's about 32,000 Certified Business Partners
> Organizations. And about 6 million developers using Microsoft Development
> tools.
> http://www.microsoft.com/business/partners/
> Which one became extinct?  Ass.
> 
> You really shouldn't Drink & Write.
IS that 6 million MSDN subscribers? I would say there is more Linux
developers out there, that don't need the fancy $5000 mecharno kit to
prove to their mates that they can program. Oh, and btw, I have a SUN
developer connection subscription, and compared to the Microsoft shit,
it is worth every dollar, esp the support SUN provides, real engineers
helping programmers.  Not the Microsoft help when you just have some
half witt reading out a help file to you.


Matthew Gardiner


-- 
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)

If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself

Running SuSE Linux 7.1

The best of German engineering, now in software form

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From: Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:13:48 GMT

Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy) wrote:
> 
> > Joeri Sebrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Time I upgrade the system though. I've learned the ways of debian are
> > > far superior to the poorly designed redhat :-)
> >
> > Preach it, brother!
> 
> Redhat and Mandrake are designed to be newbie-oriented.
> Which, in itself, is not a bad thing.

I'm not here to start a distro flamewar, but, I disagree.
You can say newbie-oriented and mean two things.

Either you mean "easy to install, and easy to use", and redhat and
mandrake are neither (nor is debian, but even debian is easier to use
from a system maintenance point of view). In fact, every linux I've
layed eyes upon has been horrendously difficult to use, as if it was
designed to irritate the user. Still, I run linux on my server, but it's
only because I like tinkering. If you want to see a REALLY easy to use
unix-like OS, look at MacOS X.

Or you can say newbie-oriented and mean "good to learn the system with",
and again, Redhat and Mandrake aren't designed for that. They hide
everything behind front-ends, and the documentation doesn't really talk
about what's going on "behind the screens". It tells you, click that box
there. 
This would be fine, because personally I'm all for front-ends, if it
wasn't for the fact that the front-ends rarely work 100 percent (which
is a fault of the legacy of fileformats on unix systems), so when they
break, people need to find out how the hell stuff REALLY works (and
that's when they come asking on comp.os.linux.*). And because the distro
designers seem to assume that users will never go tinkering with files
in /etc themselves (in fact, they want you to NOT do this, since it may
upset the precarious balance of the front-ends with the system even
more) they don't document it well.

I spent years on redhat, and all I got was frustrated. Then I found
debian, and I felt at home immediately. Some people may find debian too
restricting, I find it liberating. It's all a very subjective matter.
But please, never say that redhat is newbie oriented, because it just
isn't so.

have a nice day,
Joeri Sebrechts

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From: Benjamin Gufler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem configuring HP Deskjet 820 Cxi
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:27:28 GMT

Hi 2 all!

Does someone know how to configure a HP DeskJet 820 Cxi printer on RedHat 6.2?
I'm trying for 2 months now, but I didn't reach to.

Thx, Benj


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From: "Juan A. Rico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Test
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:29:02 +0200

Only a test. sorry.

-- =

=============================================
Juan Antonio Rico Gallego
Universidad de Extremadura. C=E1ceres. (Espa=F1a)
mailto::[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven N. Hirsch)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.cpm,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Adaptec ACB-4070 bridgeboard. any software laying around
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:43:36 GMT

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:08:23 GMT, B'ichela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>       Got it thanks! Looking at it now. I think I can modify the
>linux Scsi support to handle it. I am not the best at C so it may look
>very ugly.

Some years back, I grabbed a Linux kernel patch (against 1.1 series, I
think) which claimed to support the 4070 and 4000 series controllers.
Feel free to grab it from:

http://home.adelphia.net/~shirsch/

It's under the 'misc' subdirectory as acb-40XX.tar.gz.  Hope it's of
help, as I've never had the chance to play with it.  I used Xebec
bridge controllers (SASI, not SCSI) with Apple II boxes back in the
early 80's, and I think I may have run an ACB-5500 at one point.

Steve

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:35:53 +0200

Jonadab the Unsightly One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Dell and Compaq have been signed up with Intel for the P4 for years. That's
>> why they're all currently grimacing together over the P4s technical
>> failures .. and staying very quiet about it, hoping that the next
>> months will bring some rescue path.

> I think HP might sell some AMD-based systems.

> Dell will actually sell you a PC with linux pre-installed,
> which is a relatively major step IMO, since Dell is one of
> the "big boys" in terms of selling package-deal systems.

Yes, I have a dell server under one corner of the desk. The install CD
comes with at least a RH 6.2 and linux drivers for various things. Not
that I've cracked them open or installed the RH either, of course! 

Peter

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