Linux-Hardware Digest #632, Volume #12            Fri, 7 Apr 00 00:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Help my s3 trio 3d/2x AGP don't work (Adam Stouffer)
  Re: CDROM problem: Acer 50X (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Abit BP6 (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Abit BP6 (Adam Stouffer)
  Re: Abit BP6 (Adam Stouffer)
  Re: Does anybody understand this? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: printer (Dances With Crows)
  PCChips mobo's ("Graham Wharton")
  Re: high altitude modern systems performance
  Installing a second IDE CONTROLLER (William McGrath)
  aha2940u2w fails with rh61,62 suse6.4, ok w/rh6 and suse6.2 (Pat Cassidy)
  Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not. (Steve Martin)
  Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Parallel port does not detect printer (Peter Bloomfield)
  Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ? ("Pencil Necked Geek")
  Fixed Freq Monitor (patrum)
  Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not. (Bob Hauck)
  Re: x86 multiport serial board recommendations? ("LinkWorm Software, Inc.")
  Re: read CD-RW (Dumb newbie) ("**** ******")

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From: Adam Stouffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help my s3 trio 3d/2x AGP don't work
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:43:29 -0400

Krlos wrote:
> 
> My AGP video card S3 trio 3D/2X work so slow. I have red
> hat 6.1 with xfree86 3.5
> 

Get Xfree86 4.0. I have the same card and its a piece of shit
I plan on dumping it for a cheap Permedia2 card.


Adam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: CDROM problem: Acer 50X
Date: 06 Apr 2000 19:48:37 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 18:32:16 -0400, Steve Cousins 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have just replaced my IDE ATAPI cdrom with a new one.  I installed
>Redhat 6.1 from it fine but now when I boot up, when it gets to loading
>hdc I get the following:
>    hdc:packet command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete

Which kernel version are you using?  RH 6.1 came with 2.2.5-15, and around
2.2.13, they came out with a patch that allowed "50x" drives by Acer to
work correctly.  Apparently, they do something weird and br0ken, hence the
problems you're having with a stock kernel.

How's the noise level, spindown time, and actual speed?  I had a 40x that
was horribly noisy, spun down after 30 seconds, and subjectively wasn't
any faster than the 4/4/16 CD-RW I have now.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Abit BP6
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:48:59 GMT

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:18:53 -0600, David Rencher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ahhh... well when you said the 400's OC'd to 570 I figured that was me.
>I checked the rest of this thread and didn't see any other reference to
>that so I figured it was me and wires got crossed someplace.

No, no this was from the link posted to a website with hardware reviews
from users. I don't mean to be trashing that guy either, just didn't
think this was fair review on which to base a purchase decision.

>Sorry, didn't mean to get my feathers ruffled.  I didn't like it when I
>thought you were misquoting me and saying I dind't know what I was
>doing.  I frequently don't know what I'm doing but that's when I am
>fully aware of what I'm saying.  Anyway, missunderstanding I think.

No problem.

>I'm with you.  I LIKE my BP6.  It's a good little puppy.

I am liking more now that it doesn't lock and hose my FS ;)

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Adam Stouffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Abit BP6
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:48:49 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Well, the nasty gotcha was, "If you run both CPUs at more than
> 85% of capacity simultaneously, then data corruption does occur.
> It seems that the BP6 doesn't have quite enough front-side bus
> "bandwidth" to run both CPUs at full utilization."
> I was very sad to read that, and immediately decided to look
> elsewhere for dual Celerons.  (Alas, can't remember the URL,
> but you should be able to find it with a web search.)
> 
> What you are reporting is exactly what he reported: have several
> programs running, and max out both processors, and data corruption
> occurs.

Such bullshit. I can leave my dual C333's running at 500 for a week with
l0phtcrack using 100% of both with no problems. Its been the most stable
motherboard ever. The only time it has locked up is during extreme
overclocking when I tried for 540mhz. Don't spew your FUD without a URL
to back up these claims.



Adam

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From: Adam Stouffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Abit BP6
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:54:46 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> So now I have a quandry: to believe the people who report no
> problems, or to believe the ones who do.  And yes, there is far
> too little information there to figure out what each guy actually
> did with his system.
>  Yup, Forest Gump's mother strikes again.
> 
> And I guess now, the answer is that there is no easy answer.
> 

No, if you want real stable SMP the proper way then buy a real dual
socket
mobo and run the cpus at their rated speed. Buy good quality ram, don't
buy cheap disks like fujitsu or western digital. Personally I like
tweaking
and changing things, but not for a machine I would need for real work.



Adam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Does anybody understand this?
Date: 06 Apr 2000 19:56:50 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:51:14 -0400, Massimo Morin 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>just installed a machine with RH6.1
>I got htis and the process that generated it is in a weird frozen state.
>(happend to gpm, rm, kswap...)
>[root@saturn /root]> tail /var/log/messages
>Apr  6 17:53:52 saturn kernel: Code: 89 50 34 c7 01 00 00 00 00 89 02 c7
>41 34 00 00 00 00 ff 0d  
>Apr  6 17:54:27 saturn telnetd[4742]: ttloop:  peer died: Invalid or
>incomplete multibyte or wide character 
>Apr  6 17:54:52 saturn kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at
>virtual address 00008034 
[snippage]

This is a kernel not-so-quietly screaming for help.  A machine with
functional hardware that's running a production kernel should *never*
generate these kinds of errors.

You need to figure out which piece of hardware isn't happy.  Post the
configuration of the machine (motherboard, processor, all expansion cards,
hard drives attached) and the kernel version you're running.  I'd guess
you're running the stock kernel of RH 6.1, which is 2.2.5-15, but make
sure.

A lot of these problems are due to bad RAM.  If this is an x86, get the
"memtest86" utility and run it.  If nothing bad is reported, check
elsewhere.  Is there any pattern to where this error occurs?  Is it even
repeatable?  If it occurs when you try to access device N, that's where
the problem is.  If it's random in nature, it's probably the RAM, the
motherboard, or the processor that's acting up.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: printer
Date: 06 Apr 2000 20:01:57 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:27:09 -0700, Michael Ghens 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have a problem getting a RH 6.1 to use the parallel printer.
>I have kernel 2.2.14 compiled with lp.o.
>insmod lp.o
>Apr  6 13:16:53 anchovy modprobe: can't locate module parport_lowlevel

Well-known bug in RH 6.1--I guess you didn't read the FAQ!  Add the line
alias parport_lowlevel  parport_pc
to /etc/conf.modules and see how that goes.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: "Graham Wharton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCChips mobo's
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:08:15 +0100

Hi all.

Just a quick question really. I've come accross a PCChips 585LMR-512
Motherboard which I would like to transfer into my NAT box, as it will be
faster than the current board that is in there (by a long way believe me).

The board uses the VIA-gra HT8501/HT82C686A chipset. I know RedHat's site
says that most PCChips motherboards will not run redhat due to their
chipsets.

Does anyone know if this is a kernel issue, or redhat specific.

Has anyone tried these motherboards and got them to work

Onboard stuff like the sound, modem etc are not needed and would get turned
off anyways.

If it is redhat specific, then changing distro's would not be a problem.

Anybody's thoughts on this matter would be appreciated.

Graham Wharton



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Re: high altitude modern systems performance
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:18:23 GMT

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:54:28 -0600, David Rencher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try the desktop idea but do what you can to find drive's without breather
>holes.  They're hard to come by but you can find them.  I suppose you could
>buy one at sane altitude and seal the breather hole.  I'd like to see
>that... could be pretty funny.

If there's a 'breather hole' it is for ventilation only.  The actual platters
are sealed.

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From: William McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Installing a second IDE CONTROLLER
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:30:49 -0700




Hi,

How should I go about installing a second ide-disk controller on an
antique 486-33 ? I have two of the older single channel isa controllers
(2cards x 1channel x 2drives) both of which work and I'd like to install
an extra drive. So far linux only sees one controller.

Bill



                    Small is beautiful. Keep it simple.





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From: Pat Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aha2940u2w fails with rh61,62 suse6.4, ok w/rh6 and suse6.2
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:31:45 GMT

I'm trying to get linux installed onto a P-II with a brand new Adaptec 
AHA-2940U2W and having strange problems. It seems that the newer 
distributions have a problem with the aha2940u2w. 

Any suggestions on how I can proced are welcome!

When it comes time to format the drive, the installation programs take 
way too long, I've waited as long as 1 hour before giving up and 
rebooting. The drive light stays on for long periods (45-60 seconds) 
flickers off for a second, and then comes back on.

Redhat 6.0 is installing now with full partition and surface check, and 
seemed to be going ok, SuSE 6.2 installed ok. Partition Magic 4 can 
create partitions and format them ext2 without a problem. Full format and 
surface check took about 10-15 minutes for 9 gig. Just partition and 
format was less than 5 minutes.

Redhat 6.1, 6.2 and SuSE 6.4 all get s l o w. during access to the drive. 
Once I tried partitioning and formatting with Partition Magic and then 
installing RH 6.2 onto those partitions. When it started copying packages 
to the drive it got about 6 gig copied onto the drive and then seemed to 
be copying another 1-2 gig every 5 minutes or so (same activity pattern 
on the drive status light.)

I've got 2 new WD 9 gig 10k Drives, the correct u2w cable and 
Termination. I've even tried moving the cable to the regular ultra 
connector on the card to no avail. Only other hardware at this point is a 
3com 10/100 card and STB Velocity / RIVA128 4 meg video card.

I've put an older AHA-2940UW and a Seagate UW 2 gig drive in the machine, 
and that works fine with everything. 
Thanks,
Pat Cassidy

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not.
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:54:47 -0400

Dan wrote:

> I have had several teething problems (the main one being that my isp
> would not give me their DNS ip, and pppd won't work without it).

What?!?

The DNS server IP address is essential! If they won't give it to
you, change ISPs. That's like them saying that they'll provide
you with dial-in service, but won't give you the phone number.

Sheesh!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ?
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:52:44 GMT

In article <8ciap4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) writes:
> I think that the problem with books about Linux is that the subject is
> changing far to fast for most books being useful for more than one or
> two years.  <snippage>

Well, in that case any book on Windows is only good for about
forty-eight hours.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Peter Bloomfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parallel port does not detect printer
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:49:18 -0400

As noted, it's a known bug--see Gotcha 6.19 somewhere on Redhat's
site--can't get the address right now, my browser's timing out.

There are two suggested solutions: one is the ``alias parport...''
approach, but that seems to be unreliable; the other is an updated
modutils package, and it did the trick for me (Compaq Presario 5240).
HTH


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From: "Pencil Necked Geek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ?
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:02:18 -0500


> On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:09:37 +0200, Luca Marchese wrote:
> >ALL THE BOOKS ON LINUX IN THE WORLD ARE HERE
> >


ALL THE BOOKS IN THE WHOLE WORLD!?!?!?!  WOWEEEEEEEE!  THERE MUST BE
BAJILLIONS OF THEM!!!  WAIT TILL I TELL ALL MY AIM BUDDIES ABOUT THIS!!!




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From: patrum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,dc.org.linux-users
Subject: Fixed Freq Monitor
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:21:40 -0400

I have a SUN GDM-1955A fixed frequency monitor and can only get my
xserver to work with 640 x 480 at 32bpp.  I don't know the actual
refresh and scan rates of the monitor and am looking for some help.
Anyone got one of these working on X?

I don't think any of this will matter but here is sys info.

AMD K6-2 500
RH 6.1
10G HD (4.5 Win98, 5.5 Linux)
64M RAM
CDRW, & DVD

TIA,
Frank


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Linux sucks? Maybe not.
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:23:08 GMT

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:25:21 +0100, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have had several teething problems (the main one being that my isp 
>would not give me their DNS ip, and pppd won't work without it). But 

Your ISP's tech support have no clue then.  Maybe you should find a new
ISP.

BTW, pppd will work fine without a DNS IP, it is name resolution that
won't.


>still stands, that Joe bloggs who buys his PC from PC world is not going 
>to have a clue what to do with an OS like linux. 

I don't care.  This is comp.os.linux.networking.  Please take this sort of
thing to comp.os.linux.advocacy, where they discuss this very question at
least 900 times per month.  Thank you.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.bobh.org/

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Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:48:28 -0700
From: "LinkWorm Software, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: x86 multiport serial board recommendations?

Bryan wrote:
> 
> cyclades cards are good and reliable.
> 
> I have a spare or two (isa cards, 8 ports per card) I can sell if you need
> a few.
> 
<SNIP>

I'm late on this thread, but I might be interested in that. Email me
with the details and prices. Thanks.
-- 
Regards,
Tim Greer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | LinkWorm Software http://www.linkworm.com
Tel: 530 247-1749. Programming, CGI, Perl, C/C++, ASP, SQL, more. Design
Web Server & Network Administration, Security, Consulting, Installations
Configuration. Unix/Linux/FreeBSD & NT. Apache, IIS, TCP/IP, LAN/WAN/WWW

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From: "**** ******" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: read CD-RW (Dumb newbie)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:52:24 GMT

All these commands.... Where do you type them ??
I've been ALL over this new install and I cannot figure out where to enter
these commands. Pleeeeeezzzz ??
I have windoze down pat ( yeah, big bragging rights !?)
but with this Linux (Mandrake) I have NO reference to start with. TIA


"Dances With Crows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:30:07 GMT, Xavier
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >How can I read CD-RW with Linux?
>
> The same way you read a regular CD-ROM:  Put in drive, "mount -t iso9660
> /dev/FOO /mnt/cdrom", access. You will need a relatively new CD-ROM drive
> (one with automatic gain control) or a CD-R(W) for the disc to be
> recognized, since the differing optical properties of CD-RW media mean
> that older and/or cheap newer models can't read them.
>
> If this is a CD-RW written with ACraptek's "Direct CD" or a similar piece
> of packet-writing software, you'll need the UDF filesystem driver.  Get
> the latest experimental kernel (2.3.99-pre3) and compile it with "UDF
> Filesystem Support".  HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
> There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
> But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama
critics
> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.



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