Linux-Hardware Digest #632, Volume #13           Tue, 26 Sep 00 09:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Turtle Beach, Montego (Linus Harling)
  Re: Problem with ethernet card 3Com 3C509B (Rob van der Putten)
  intel i810 - sound - where do I start to fix this ?! (Neil)
  Re: Why does Linux printing via Parallel port slow system? (Linus Harling)
  Re: New Linux Install (Chris Sherlock)
  Re: RH6.2 PCMCIA Network card (Mike Walsted)
  "NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AVP" + REDHAT 6.2 (Udo Bergmann)
  Re: IRQ Setup (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: Linmodem situation (Bob Martin)
  Re: IRQ Setup (Bob Martin)
  Re: Advice needed on Linux on an Aptiva (Microchannel Architecture) (Bob Martin)
  Re: Asus A7v M/B compatible? (Heiko Hafner)
  Re: Problem with ethernet card 3Com 3C509B ("City Jim 3000")
  Keyboard works in single-user mode; not in multi-user (Tom Law)
  Re: LS120 C/H/S values (Martha H Adams)

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From: Linus Harling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach, Montego
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:17:55 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Download the binaries from the same site (provided that you have the
right libs), they worked with Slackware 7.0 at least (if that's any
help).


Chuck wrote:
> 
> Thank you both... I downloaded the driver but I can't compile it.
> Several errors while compiling au_audio.c
> 
> I agree with the compiler's complaints, so obviously the makefile
> is deficient in some way. Any ideas?
> 
> The first error is about OWNER being undefined.
> Many of the next errors are about incompatible pointer types,
> and fields (ie. 'read', 'write') already being initialized....
> 
> Leejay Wu wrote:
> 
> > Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.hardware: 19-Sep-100 Re: Turtle
> > Beach, Montego by Joshua Baker-LePain@duke
> > > Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Anyone know of a driver that'll work with my Turtle Beach
> > > > Montego A3D sound card? The card is actually Dell propreitary
> > > > and not Turtle Beach standard, if that matters.
> > >
> > > FAQ: linux.aureal.com (if the site is still solvent -- the
> > > company isn't so)
> >
> > Site's still up, but hasn't been updated for some time...
> >
> > Plus:
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal
> >
> > Seems others have been trying to improve the drivers.
> > --
> > |   [EMAIL PROTECTED]        | the silly student          |
> > |--------------------------| he writes really bad haiku |
> > |   #include <stddiscl.h>  | readers all go mad         |
> >
> >

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From: Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with ethernet card 3Com 3C509B
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:09:43 +0200

Hi there


Eugene Zaichkin wrote:

> But nothing arrives, if I try to ping some computer from this network.
> Ping writes, that all packages are lost and, besides, the counter of
> TX packets increases.

If you're using coax, use 3c5x9cfg to set your card to BNC rather then
auto detect.


Regards,
Rob
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: intel i810 - sound - where do I start to fix this ?!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:23:07 +0100


HI

Can anyone give me some clues as to how I sort out this mess ! I don't
understand exactly what these kernel messages mean.

I'm running SuSE 6.3/6.4 kernel 2.2.13.

TIA

Neil


Starting sound driver: snd-card-intel8x0 ...
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_new
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol _snd_magic_kcalloc
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol _snd_magic_kfree
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_transfer_done
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_kcalloc
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_lib_transfer_size
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_device_new
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_dma_alloc
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_ac97_write_lock
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_ac97_write_bitmask_lock
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_dma_free
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol synchronize_irq
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol _snd_kfree
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_ac97_mixer
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_lib_ioctl
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_lib_transfer_fragment
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_set_mixer
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_kmalloc
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: insmod snd-card-intel8x0 failed
                                                                      done    



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From: Linus Harling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Linux printing via Parallel port slow system?
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:33:20 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ever tried printing (on LPT) while running Photoshop on Win98/NT? thats
what I call slowdowns....

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sideband) writes:
> >Because Linux does something that DOS/Windows doesn't... It actually
> >uses the parallel port's IRQ.  With the IRQ being called every time
> >data needs to be sent to the port, you're going to see a slowdown on
> >slower systems. The only real cure for this is to increase the size of
> >the buffer in your M410 (i.e. Add RAM).
> 
> SSB,
> 
> I'm not sure this explanation makes sense.  I would expect _polling_ to
> suck up an inordinate number of cycles, since the CPU is likely to spend
> a lot of time waiting for the printer to free up its internal buffer (if
> any) and report an un-busy condition.
> 
> With IRQ-driven printing, the CPU only pays attention to the printer
> when it is out of power, out of paper (sometimes), or out of bytes to
> print, then it rapidly dumps enough data down the pipe to fill the
> printer's internal buffer back up.  Much less processor overhead.
> 
> I can't speak for Linux, since I've never checked into this particular
> aspect of the system.  I do know that OS/2 defaults to polled printer
> support, and enabling interrupt-driven support (adding /IRQ to the
> driver line) speeds up printing _and_ makes the system much more
> responsive.
> 
> MSWinNT, at least through v4.x, has _no_ support for interrupt-driven
> printing, as I painfully discovered trying to screen-dump a DOS session
> to a slow printer with an 80-byte buffer.  Don't know if MS added this
> in for MSWin2K.
> 
> Hope this makes sense...
> 
> Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
> Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:47:20 +1000
From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: New Linux Install

>From what I understand, the new LBA32 extensions in LILO will circumvent
this problem. I don't know much more about this as I haven't had to
worry about hitting the 1024 cylinder ceiling yet. 

Would someone care to comment?

Chris

"James M. Luongo" wrote:
> 
> I plan on installing Linux Mandrake 7.1 for the first time.  I need some
> help.  How big should the partitions be?  And, I heard something about
> LiLo not recognizing a Linux partition after a certain disk cylinder (or
> sector, whatever).  I think it was 1023, but I'm not sure.  Is this
> true?  Help!
> --
> ------------------------
> James M. Luongo  x1427
> Draper Laboratory Room 4207
> ------------------------

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From: Mike Walsted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.2 PCMCIA Network card
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:52:28 GMT

Just a guess, but you may have an IRQ conflict.  (That was the problem when
it happened to me.)  Look at your /etc/pcmcia/config.opts file, and ensure that
the right IRQs are included and excluded.
Hope this helps,
Mike Walsted


On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, MC wrote:
>I discovered that both cards wouldn't work together, but if I took one
>(the modem card on slot0) and placed the network card there instead
>(that is, from slot1 to slot0) the network card works fine.  The problem
>appears to be diagnosed below.  I hope this helps to everyone out there
>going through the same pains as I am.
>
>MC
>---
>
>From the PCMCIA-HowTo
>
>3.8 Resource conflict only with two cards inserted
>
>Symptoms:
>
>Two cards each work fine when used separately.
>When both cards are inserted, only one works.
>
>This usually indicates a resource conflict with a system device that
>Linux does not know about.
>PCMCIA devices are dynamically configured, so, for example, interrupts
>are allocated as needed,
>rather than specifically assigned to particular cards or sockets. Given
>a list of resources that appear
>to be available, cards are assigned resources in the order they are
>configured. In this case, the card
>configured last is being assigned a resource that in fact is not free.
>
>Check the system log to see what resources are used by the non-working
>card. Exclude these in
>/etc/pcmcia/config.opts, and restart the cardmgr daemon to reload the
>resource database.

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From: Udo Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AVP" + REDHAT 6.2
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:03:32 +0200

Hallo Gemeinde,
ich habe auf meinem Sony Vaio PCG-F707, PIII 600 MHz, 128 MB RAM
RedHat6.2 installiert.
Jetzt m�chte ich noch den X-Server starten und bekomme es nicht hin.
Laut Windoof ist da eine 
"NeoMagic MagicMedia 256AVP"
Grafikkarte drin.
Video Speicher 3 MB. 14 " TFT Display.

Zum einen kann ich nur NeoMagic im Xkonfigurator ausw�hlen und nicht
meine Karte, habe auch keine M�glichkeit die 3 MB Videospeicher
auszuw�hlen gib nur die M�glichkeit 2 oder 4 MB, noch wei� ich den
Chipsatztyp.

Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen.

Danke Udo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: IRQ Setup
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:03:49 GMT

Greg Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I have never seen any HOWTO or Guide or utility that explains setting up
>IRQ usage or even checking the IRQ usage.  

You didn't really search for it, did you? This topic has really
been discussed to death over the years, and a careful search at
http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml would have given you thousands
of hits on it.

>I would like to know how to
>do this.  Do I need a command to do this, edit a file, or do I need a
>utility?  

[...]

Depends. The problematic part with IRQ settings on the PC 
is the rather broken design of that architecture in the first place.
It roughly comes down to that:

a) It's either up to the system's BIOS to give the appropriate
   resources to the various interfaces installed or up to the
   OS. Prior to the PNP stuff, it was always the BIOS or the
   interfaces themselves that had to be configured that way.

b) PNP really only works for PCI cards. Especially as far as
   sharing an IRQ in between several cards is concerned; while
   PCI has been defined to be able to share IRQs amongst several
   PCI cards, ISA never really supported that out of the box
   (that is, unless special hardware is used, like intelligent
   multiport cards do it). And even some PCI cards do not
   really work if they share an IRQ; typically, this is a driver
   issue (because not only the HW, but as well the driver needs
   to support shared IRQs). This is often the case with TV cards,
   certain SCSI cards and the combination of SCSI and networking
   cards (specifically in Linux, but not only there; the same thing
   happens on NT and even Win9* machines sometimes).

c) Newer BIOS versions will NOT assign any IRQs to PCI cards
   if the option PNP-OS is set to "yes/enabled". This is just
   plain broken, IMHO, and will result in a partially non-working Linux
   system unless corrected. If you get a message that a PCI card
   was assigned IRQ 0, you are suffering from such a setting.

d) Linux is not really a PNP OS; while the PCI cards will
   (see above) usually just work with the settings assigned by
   the BIOS, the ISA cards need a special treatment. There are
   the isapnptools that will take care of that: If installed,
   run "pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf" and edit the resulting file
   to your likings (you do have to specify the IRQ/DMA/I-O settings
   for the cards manually in that file, but the pnpdump command
   will show the available ranges for each card and setting).

e) Serial ports can either be autoconfigured or setup by
   isapnp as well (internal modem cards, e.g.). If setup by
   isapnp, you'll have to tell the Linux kernel about the new
   settings for the serial ports, using the "setserial" command.
   Once completed, the "setserial ..." statement has to be put
   into one of the standard startup scripts to be executed automatically
   each time you startup Linux.

f) To check for available resources, use the /proc filesystem.
   A simple "cat < /proc/interrupts" will show all IRQs in use,
   "cat < /proc/dma" all DMA settings in place and
   "cat < /proc/devices" all configured devices.


HTH, HAND

Michael
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linmodem situation
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:24:51 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> What's up,
> 
> I recently bought a cheap computer.  Being a cheap computer, it has a
> HSP56 Pctel micromodem working with an i810 Intel motherboard.  I know
> there is some degree of compatitbility with Linux for the winmodem (I
> have SuSe 7.0).  That, of course depends on other hardware issues.  I
> compiled the kernel module which I downloaded, configured the irq and
> i/o port issues using setserial, etc.   So, when I go to see if the
> modem will work with kppp, wvdial, or something.  It says that the modem
> is busy.  I don't know what to do from here?  Do I just need to get off
> my poor, lazy ass and buy a real modem?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 

A real modem would be the best solution. Make sure the module is loading
correctly, try 'modprobe pctel' , or whatever the name of the module is.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IRQ Setup
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:36:05 -0500

Greg Davis wrote:
> 
> I have never seen any HOWTO or Guide or utility that explains setting up
> IRQ usage or even checking the IRQ usage.  I would like to know how to
> do this.  Do I need a command to do this, edit a file, or do I need a
> utility?  My situation is that I have a mix of ISA pnp and PCI hardware
> and they are all squirrelly.  Each one is finnicky about IRQs and I have
> one card that is currently unrecognized (I think).  I want to check what
> card is using what IRQ and possibly reassign IRQs to accomodate all of
> my hardware.
> 
> thanks for help,
> Greg

IRQ setup is pretty much dependent on the hardware, you can list
/proc/interrupts for a list. Most things are pretty well fixed, 3 and 4
are com ports , 6 is the floppy controller, 12 ps/2 mouse, 13 is mathco,
14 an 15 ide contollers. usually the only ones available are 5,7,9,10
and 11. sound cards usually are assigned 5, NICs on 10 and parallel
ports on 7. For the PCI bus, those cards can usually share IRQs.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.aptiva
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Linux on an Aptiva (Microchannel Architecture)
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:44:33 -0500

Michiel wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am using an Aptiva computer and I'm considering installing Linux on my
> computer. I have read some documentation on Linux, and learned about the
> fact that Linux doesn't support IBM's Microchannel Architecture. I have
> no good idea about what it is, but since I am using an IBM product I
> thought it could apply to me as well. But the problem is, I can't find
> any clear information on this topic. I looked up some information on my
> mother board, and found out it has part number/model number V70MA. It
> uses Micro-(ATX) Form Factor (whatever that may be). I am not sure what
> these data mean, but I was wondering whether MA and Micro-A* are synonym
> to Microchannel.
> 

Not all of IBMs products use their microchannel bus, check the docs for
your machine.

Microchannel is a bus, micro-atx is form factor which specifies how the
motherboard is laid out.

The kernel supports microchannel, but it may not be included in all
distros.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heiko Hafner)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Subject: Re: Asus A7v M/B compatible?
Date: 26 Sep 2000 11:10:05 GMT

In article <DhSz5.2667$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Niklas Krumm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Nik,

> I would like to know if anyone has tried using linux with the A7V M/B. In
> particular, does the pomise ata/100 IDE controller pose any problems?

working perfect here. You just need to apply the ide-patch from
ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hendrik(?) to your
kernel (2.2.16/7) or use a 2.4.0-testx kernel to get the promise
driver. I had problems with 2.4.0-test8,so I recommend
using 2.4.0-test7 or a patched 2.2.17....

cu

Heiko

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From: "City Jim 3000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with ethernet card 3Com 3C509B
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:15:18 +0200

It's propably your IRQ. The driver doesn't always detect the IRQ right, and
that means the machine isn't interrupted when a packet arrives (and is thus
never sent to the driver).

You can send packets though, as that generates no interrupts.

Set the card with some utility to be in non-pnp mode and set the IO/IRQ's
manually (for example to io 0x300 and irq 10)

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8qh43k$gq1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've got quite the same problem.
>
> I'm using a dsl connection and configured a masquing gateway with two
> interfaces: a 3C509B and a NE2000. One is connected to the internal home
> hub and the other is connected to the dsl modem.
>
> I've got both interfaces up and running. Actually from other machine
> connected to the hub I have ping responses in about 1ms towards the
> gateway, but when I ping FROM the gateway towards other hosts the
> packets go away normally (Tx way) but they have problems to arrive (Rx
> way) and too many packets are droped.
>
> I've got this same response pinging the internet through dsl modem.
> Packets get out easily but are hard to come in.
>
> Conf: Cyryx486dx80/32MB 3C509B-isa (eth0), winbond ne2k compat (eth1),
> redhat6.2 (kernel 2.2.14 out of box, no kernel recompile).
>
> What's going wrong?
>
>
>
>
> In article <8qfsau$ngs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Eugene Zaichkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ifconfig shows, that everything is o'key - the card is identified by
> the
> > system and adress is assing to this card:
> >
> > eth0: Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:AF:C8:E1:6F inet
> addr:192.168.12.127
> > Bcast:192.168.12.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST
> > MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX
> > packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0 Interrupt:10
> Base
> > address:0x300
> >
> > But nothing arrives, if I try to ping some computer from this network.
> Ping
> > writes, that all packages are lost and, besides, the counter of TX
> packets
> > increases.
> >
> > What has happened?
> >
> > P.S. I have Slackware Linux. The kernel version is 2.0.34
> >
> > P.P.S My routing table is:
> > Destination | Gateway | Genmask | Flags | Mss | Window | irtt | Iface
> > 192.168.12.0 | 0.0.0.0 | 255.255.255.0 | U | 1500 | 0 | 0 | eth0
> > 127.0.0.0 | 0.0.0.0 | 255.0.0.0 | U | 3584 | 0 | 0 | lo
> > 0.0.0.0 | 192.168.12.1 | 0.0.0.0 | UG | 1500 | 0 | 0 | eth0
> >
> > P.P.P.S. My ethernet cable is good.
> >
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: Tom Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Keyboard works in single-user mode; not in multi-user
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:18:29 -0400

Can anyone give me a clue why this is happening:

    When I boot up to the "LILO boot:" prompt, if I type in "linux", the

keyboard won't work when I get to the "login" prompt (booting into text
mode, not X windows).  I can telnet into the system, but can't get the
keyboard to affect anything, even the screen blanker.
    But, if I enter "linux single" at the "LILO boot:" prompt, the
keyboard DOES work, and I can log in normally.  But can't do much.

    What would cause this behavior?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martha H Adams)
Subject: Re: LS120 C/H/S values
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:34:31 GMT

I don't have a complete answer to this problem but I think I have some
relevant ideas.

You can't boot from the LS120 as a floppy in an old 386 machine because
the LS120 mounts as a hard drive.  So my idea is, install the hardware
LS120 as the first hard drive.

Now, in a Slackware Linux, you can look in the bootdsk and rootdsk 
subd's and find a `bare.i' boot file and a `rescue' root file.  So 
follow instructions for making a boot and a root disk; and with the
LS120 first hard drive in place, load the boot and then the rescue
disks, which gives you a basic Linux system running in memory.  (It
wants 8 MB memory.)  At this point you can remove the root disk so
you have an empty floppy drive you can use later.  (If you put another
floppy into the machine at this point, remember to mount it.)

You also have Linux running in your machine, so you can now start the
Linux fdisk and (you don't mount it yet) you can fdisk the LS120 at 
hda to find out how it is made.  I expect you will find it msdos 
partitioned into four 32 MB subd's, which can be fixed if you have a
full Linux system by catting zeros into it.

Anyhow, at this point, I'd have to play around to find where to go
from here.  But I think I would try installing a basic Linux into the
four 32 MB partitions, and go on from there.

Alternatively, how about a hard drive at hdb and boot from a normal 
boot disk made from the Linux?

I think the `rescue' disk, while very good for problem coping, has a
slightly misleading name because there is so much you can do with this 
little Linux that runs in memory only.  When you get your system up,
I think you could get a lot of good out of playing with your boot / 
rescue disk system just to become familiar with it.  Don't go into
Linux without it!

Cheers -- Martha Adams

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