Linux-Hardware Digest #19, Volume #13 Sat, 10 Jun 00 13:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Anyone still familiar with EISA systems? (James Stafford)
Re: Old NCR AT&T Box... repost, sorry. (Raymond N Shwake)
BIOS & size of HD (Chas Samuels)
Re: BIOS & size of HD (Chas Samuels)
Re: Silent Power Supply? ("J Sheridan")
Re: mandrake 7.1 + abit be6 ("none")
Re: Please Help on my Final Year Project (Cihl)
number lock ("alexisc")
Re: The Perfect Linux Video Card (Ronald Cole)
Re: HELP: SCSI tape error (Ronald Cole)
Re: Silent Power Supply? (Ronald Cole)
Re: number lock (Hal Burgiss)
Need soundcard suggestion. ("Jason Brown")
Anandtech and powersupplies (Was Re: Silent Power Supply?) (Bob)
Re: Silent Power Supply? (Bob)
Re: Silent Power Supply? (Alexander Derevin)
Re: Silent Power Supply? (Alexander Derevin)
Re: The Perfect Linux Video Card (Dances With Crows)
Re: Sound Card (Keith Rhodes)
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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone still familiar with EISA systems?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:51:20 GMT
"M. Buchenrieder" wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Robbins) writes:
>
> >Hoping someone has some knowledge of the long-gone EISA systems. I have
> >a Digital 486-66 that I'd like to use as a Linux mail server, but it's
> >a mess right now. I haven't got to the point of installing thew OS as
> >there are startup problems. There are boot-time error messages like:
>
> >"ID Information Mismatch for Slot 2"
> >"Invalid EISA configuration information - please run the configuration
> >utility"
>
> Probably some changed card in slot 2.
>
> >The "configuration utility" is /not/ the BIOS setup utility (I got
> >other errors referring to the "SETUP Program" -- the BIOS setup, which
> >I resolved) does anyone have any ideas what/where this "configuration
> >utility" is? Needless to say, I have *no* software relating to the
> >machine.
>
> EISA uses a setup program on a floppy disk for the installation
> and configuration of add-on cards. If you don't have it, you're stuck,
> since you need it for all further steps. You may have some luck if
> searching for someone with an identical system in the various HW-related
> groups, but without that floppy you'll not be able to properly setup
> your system at all. I doubt that you'll be able to get much information
> from Compaq (yes, they bought Digital about 2 years ago), since they
> have basically dropped all support for the older Digital systems after
> the takeover.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
> Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
> Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
The first time I installed Linux it was on a 486 DX2 50 Mhz EISA
computer. This computer was given to me, it was just a case with the
motherboard. It took me two weeks of searching on the web for a EISA
config utility that worked with the MB. I just went to multiple search
engines and looked until I found something that worked.
Do you know what chipset and BIOS the motherboard has? I can see if I
can help you with a EISA config utility that works (I found and saved a
lot of them).
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raymond N Shwake)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.corel,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.sys.ncr,corelsupport.linux.corellinux,core
Subject: Re: Old NCR AT&T Box... repost, sorry.
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:43:04 GMT
"MetL Hed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>The SCSI is an NCR 53C710, the model version is a 3430, serial number
>30117245. Is there Linux support for this model? Maybe Windows NT support?
>Either would be nice. Is there a way I could get a version of UNIX to run
>on this machine?
We still have a few 3430s running in our office. They're certified
for NCR's MP-RAS UNIX (SVr4) and Windows NT (3.51 or 4.0). I haven't tried
running Linux on them, in part because I've got surplus desktops on the
shelf that are more powerful than those hulking towers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chas Samuels)
Subject: BIOS & size of HD
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:06:09 GMT
I want to install a bigger harddrive. It seems the best deals for the money
are in the 8.0 to 10.0+ megabyte range. How can I tell if my BIOS will handle
the larger drive? I'm posting this message here as I plan to make a
Win95/Linux box. Thank you for your assistance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chas Samuels)
Subject: Re: BIOS & size of HD
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:10:52 GMT
Sorry, that should be 8.0 to 10.0+ GIGAbyte range.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chas Samuels) wrote:
>I want to install a bigger harddrive. It seems the best deals for the money
>are in the 8.0 to 10.0+ megabyte range. How can I tell if my BIOS will handle
>the larger drive? I'm posting this message here as I plan to make a
>Win95/Linux box. Thank you for your assistance.
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From: "J Sheridan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: Silent Power Supply?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:48:05 GMT
Anandtech had a review of PSU's (about 20 of them) and found the one that
was 100% with an Athlon system under all circumstances (even better than a
425 watt PSU) was the Antec PP303X 300 watt PS. I have this PS and it has a
quiet fan, plus it speeds up when necessary and slows down a LOT when the
system is in standby or is doing very little (I.E.; it's very quiet). It's
also less than half the price of the PCP & C unit.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1128&p=1
"Alexander Fong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, David Maynard wrote:
>
> > Paul Rubin wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > What the heck is AMD Approved about? If AMD made CPU's that were
> > > incompatible with standard P/S's, that would be the end of them. So I
> > > wouldn't worry about this issue.
> > Visit AMD's site for information on their approval process for Athlon
> > qualified power supplies. And speaking of special approvals, visit any
> > major memory vendor and note which ones are listed as qualified for use
> > in Athlon systems vs the 'regular' PC types.
>
> The main problem lies in that Athlon is a very power-hungry processor.
>
> Another problem is that PSUs aren't all made to spec. I believe Anandtech
> had a PSU review a while back showing that lots of stock PSUs didn't stand
> up to the standard.
>
> I had to replace my PSU a while back. Very flaky lately. Shoved 3.9V
> down my 3.3V rail, which doubles as the VIO on an Abit BX6r2. I don't
> think the DIMMs liked that too much (I had a DIMM that wasn't working
> properly to start with, just that this bloody thing made things even
> WORSE...)
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************
> Alexander Fong ap_fong (at) alcor.concordia.ca
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Press any key... NO, NO, NO, NOT THAT ONE!!!!!!
> **********************************************************************
>
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From: "none" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mandrake 7.1 + abit be6
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:51:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Harper
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sft wrote:
>
>> Boot with your floppy, and look at /etc/lilo.conf. It should have
>
> If I plug my main HD in as hda everything works fine (but I don't use
> the udma66)
>
> Cheers, Rob
>
What is the dmesg output? (cat /var/log/dmesg)
BTW, I don't think that linux uses the system bios, anyway thats
what I've read from the Large-Disk HOWTO (unmaintained).
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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Please Help on my Final Year Project
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 14:22:45 GMT
Alan Po wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> I am a University Student in Hong Kong. I have choosen to develop an
> Embedded Linux Environment for Industrial as my Final Year Project. My
:-O
All this alone in one year?!
> Lecturer suggest me that my first step is to use a linux to control a Web
> Camera first. However, in Hong Kong, almost all Web Camera only support USB
> (Windows 98 or iMac). In my plan, I also find that if the USB Hardware
> Interface may be more useful and meaningful because USB is PnP and it is
> easy to find in the market (also the industrial). However, as I know, Linux
> does not support USB.
It does now, try the 2.4.0 test-kernel, the USB-implementation should
be stable by now.
Some info at http://www.linux-usb.org.
> Can anyone tell any USB development plan on Linux? Where can I get more
> solutions or hints on USB for Linux? Thanks and welcome for any help and
> suggestion on my project. Thanks a lot.
Oops, said it three lines too soon. :-)
> Alan Po
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "alexisc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: number lock
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:00:23 +0100
Hello peeplz,
Does anyone know how to get number lock to come on at boot time, I'm fed up
typing numbers in and finding nothing happens or I've arrowed all over the
place (RH6.0) this is a ps2 win kb with some xtra shortcut buttons along the
top, these have a driver of their own - I'd love to know if and how I can
get those working under linux too.
Thanx in advance,
-- Alexis
--Scraping by on coins I found in the sofa--
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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: The Perfect Linux Video Card
Date: 10 Jun 2000 08:20:03 -0700
Tony Spinillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You should have no prblem running the Voodoo3. Redhat comes with X3.3.6.
> The driver is part
> of the SVGA server. The 3d modules at linux.3dfx.com will work fine. The
> card also runs well
> with X4. I used a Voodoo3 for six months before upgrading to a nvidia 3d
> Prophet II.
Ok, I bought the Voodoo3 3000 PCI (16Mb) and loaded RedHat 6.2. It
used the SVGA X Server, but install wouldn't allow me to configure
1280x1024 for anything over 16bbp. Is this a RedHat problem? Which
is faster for this card, 16bbp, or 32bbp? What's the solution if I
want 32bbp?
--
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Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152
My GPG fingerprint: C3AF 4BE9 BEA6 F1C2 B084 4A88 8851 E6C8 69E3 B00B
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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: SCSI tape error
Date: 10 Jun 2000 08:25:14 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dragos A. Manolescu) writes:
> Both drives were bought brand new about 2.5 years ago. Hmmm...
Well, I have a DDS1 tape that I wrote on a brand new drive 6 years ago
and read it just fine on a brand spankin' new DDS3 drive last week.
You might want to have your 2.5-y.o. drives serviced.
--
Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA 93556-1412
Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152
My GPG fingerprint: C3AF 4BE9 BEA6 F1C2 B084 4A88 8851 E6C8 69E3 B00B
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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: Silent Power Supply?
Date: 10 Jun 2000 08:30:26 -0700
"Me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> experience with either of these PSU's? Though the PC Power & Cooling unit
> has slightly less power, would I be better off in piece of mind with their
> quality?
Unless you have a dozen really old SCSI drives to spin up when you
turn on the machine, a 235W p/s is more than enough for any modern
system and may actually be more stable and long-lived.
--
Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA 93556-1412
Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO Fax: (760) 499-9152
My GPG fingerprint: C3AF 4BE9 BEA6 F1C2 B084 4A88 8851 E6C8 69E3 B00B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: number lock
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:43:33 GMT
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:00:23 +0100, alexisc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello peeplz,
>Does anyone know how to get number lock to come on at boot time, I'm fed up
>typing numbers in and finding nothing happens or I've arrowed all over the
>place (RH6.0) this is a ps2 win kb with some xtra shortcut buttons along the
>top, these have a driver of their own - I'd love to know if and how I can
>get those working under linux too.
man xmodmap.
http://feenix.eyep.net/xstuff/numlock.html
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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From: "Jason Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Need soundcard suggestion.
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:48:55 -0400
Here's something that ought to short out any search engine :)
I'm building a new computer from scratch and I am searching for a
soundcard with the following specs:
True legacy SB support for old DOS games.
Linux support. (Probably synonymous with first requirement.)
The ability to accept audio from two cdrom drives. (A stretch, I
know.)
Good quality wavetable sound.
Must be PCI.
Under $200.
Anyone know of any such card and where to buy it?
Of course, if anyone has had good experiences with a card that has
everything but the dual-cdrom support, I would welcome their suggestions as
well.
Thanks in advance!
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From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Anandtech and powersupplies (Was Re: Silent Power Supply?)
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:02:57 +0200
On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:48:05 GMT, "J Sheridan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Anandtech had a review of PSU's (about 20 of them) and found the one that
>was 100% with an Athlon system under all circumstances (even better than a
>425 watt PSU) was the Antec PP303X 300 watt PS.
I'm not so sure Anandtech knows how a PS works.
After passing the internal selftest and the outputs have stabilized
the PS will generate a +5V Power-Good signal to pin 8 on the ATX
connector. The PC will then boot.
If the PS cannot maintain proper output this Power-Good signal is
withdrawn, the CPU resets and the system should reboot as soon as the
Power-Good signal returns. On some systems it doesn't and you'll have
to unplug and plug the PS to boot.
The Power-Good signal is there to protect your PC against bad power
output. However, manufactures definition of bad power output varies.
Manufacturers like the FSP-group, Zippy/EMACS and PC Power&Cooling
are conservative. Others are liberal and some El Cheapo powersupplies
simply tie any +5V line to pin 8 so you'll get the Power-Good signal
as soon as you turn the PS on !!!
Under heavy stress the voltage output quality will suffer. Question is
at what level the Power-Good signal is withdrawn. I suspect the
Sparkle is more conservative than the Antec (manufactured by CWT).
> I have this PS and it has a
>quiet fan, plus it speeds up when necessary and slows down a LOT when the
>system is in standby or is doing very little (I.E.; it's very quiet). It's
>also less than half the price of the PCP & C unit.
>http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1128&p=1
The Antec PS is a good PS, not great, but good.
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From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: Silent Power Supply?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:08:33 +0200
On 10 Jun 2000 08:30:26 -0700, Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>"Me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> experience with either of these PSU's? Though the PC Power & Cooling unit
>> has slightly less power, would I be better off in piece of mind with their
>> quality?
>
>Unless you have a dozen really old SCSI drives to spin up
Why is that? You can delay spin-up on most SCSI drives.
>when you
>turn on the machine, a 235W p/s is more than enough for any modern
>system
That's just not true.
>and may actually be more stable and long-lived.
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From: Alexander Derevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: Silent Power Supply?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:15:51 GMT
Paul Rubin wrote:
> The main noise-reduction method of the Silencer seems to be its fan,
> whose blades are shaped a little differently than conventional fans.
> My Silencer (200 watt AT slim) is definitely noticably quieter than
> the generic PS that it replaced. I haven't tried the Sparkle--where
> can I get one?
If you live in California... try Fry's Electronics. Otherwise, most
hole-in-the-wall small computer shops should carry the 300-watt one as their
"top-of-the-line" PSU... also check out pricewatch.
> Interesting. Again I'd be interested to know of vendors. I was using a
> PC Power and Cooling cpu fan on my old Pentium 120 but sold that machine
> and now have an AMD K6-2 333 with a generic heatsink/fan. I was thinking
> of getting one of the quietpc.com fans but other suggestions are welcome.
I have never seen Papst fans on sale. Ever. They EXIST... I just don't know where
you can buy one. www.plycon.com sells Alpha coolers with Sanyo Denki fans. The only
other source I know is an ebay reseller "sumit1".. he regularly puts Alpha heatsinks
on sale and he can substitute a Sanyo fan (if he has them in stock) for the 27 CFM YS
Tech fans he usually ships.. and his prices are a few dollars below the
competition. I have done business with him three times, and he's very good.
> Hmm, this is interesting too, I'll look for it. I've also been
> thinking of sticking my PC (generic mini/mid tower) in a closet and
> lining the closet with sound absorbing foam (www.soundproofing.org).
> Unfortunately my closet is too far from my desk for my monitor cable
> to reach. So if I put it in the closet, I'd probably just use it as a
> file server for my laptop. That would let me silence the laptop by
> removing its hard disk, at least when I'm using it at home.
If you stick it in a closet without adequate ventilation, your computer will over
heat and malfunction... it's not a good idea, IMHO, especially with soundproof foam,
which will retain even more heat.
Alex
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From: Alexander Derevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking
Subject: Re: Silent Power Supply?
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:18:02 GMT
> Way too expensive, besides it won't do much good for hot CPUs and
> chipsets.
It's expensive, yes, but if you consider a $100 (no PSU) Addtronics case, modded with
dual 120mm Panasonic quiet fans ($22 each) and lined with Dynamat ($50)... just to
equal ambient case cooling potential of that little CoolerMaster.. it begins to make
a lot of sense. Besides, cool case interior = less work for the CPU heatsink..
Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: The Perfect Linux Video Card
Date: 10 Jun 2000 12:21:42 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Jun 2000 08:20:03 -0700, Ronald Cole
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Ok, I bought the Voodoo3 3000 PCI (16Mb) and loaded RedHat 6.2. It
>used the SVGA X Server, but install wouldn't allow me to configure
>1280x1024 for anything over 16bbp. Is this a RedHat problem? Which
>is faster for this card, 16bbp, or 32bbp? What's the solution if I
>want 32bbp?
The graphical install process's automatic X configuration utility is
brain-damaged. Become root and run Xconfigurator or XF86Setup, where you
will be given more and better choices wrt resolution and color depth.
The lack of really high resolutions at really high color depths could be a
hardware limitation. What's the DAC speed on the card? A video card
that's doing 1280x1024@16bpp, 60Hz has to spit out 150M/sec to the
monitor. I'd think the Voodoo3 could handle that, but double the color
depth and you double the bandwidth requirements--possibly beyond what the
DAC can handle!
16bpp is going to be faster then 32 for almost anything.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Card
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:44:47 +0200
Igor Zemliansky wrote:
> Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??????? ? ????????
> ?????????:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > You are wrong. Because any sound card have a mixer in it, you will not
> hear
> > > a sound from your sound card until you configure it. The mixer of a
> sound
> > > card is device such as DAC or ADC or FM-MIDI Synthesizer.
> > >
> > > --
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > Digitaly Yours �
> >
> > I don't think so... I had music coming from my sound card before I got it
> > configured right.
> >
> If You have a special button on your sc-rom drive (PLAY) try this test under
> nake DOS!!! Under DOS environment load audio-cd into your cd-rom drive and
> press the button key on it. If you'll hear a music from speaker, wich is
> connected to your soundcard - then card has been default setings for your
> its mixer. This is my oppinion.
>
> P.S. Sorry for my ENGLISH.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------
> Digitaly Yours �
Po mojemu, ty ne plokho govorisch po angliiskii.
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