Linux-Hardware Digest #32, Volume #13 Mon, 12 Jun 00 18:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Advice for Win/Linux PC hardware? (David A. Lethe)
Problem: Linux doesnt recognize my PCI NIC ("RP")
Re: What's a cheap 100BaseT ethernet card? ("Warren Postma")
Re: Setting IRQ for Network Interface Card (M. Buchenrieder)
(OT) Cluefulness (Was: Old Monitor) (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
pci orinoco driver for linux (Srikant Sharma)
Re: Problem: Linux doesnt recognize my PCI NIC (Kevin Conway)
Re: Problem: Linux doesnt recognize my PCI NIC ("RP")
Re: Athlon Locks in Linux?!?! (jurgyman)
HELP: Hardware buggy on Linux install (Frank Iway Wu)
Re: Books (Davey)
Re: (OT) Cluefulness ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Books (Garry Knight)
Re: SoundBlaster Live (emu10k1 module) (yet another sound card problem) (Ethan
Alpert)
Re: epson stylus color 740 printer setup (James Franklin)
How does dual-heading work? ("Matthew McCleary")
Re: How does dual-heading work? (Andrey Vlasov)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. Lethe)
Subject: Re: Advice for Win/Linux PC hardware?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:26:12 GMT
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 04:44:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm a programmer, not a hardware guy, but I just started a new job, and one of
>the things I need to do is buy three PCs that will run Linux as well as Win98,
>and probably Win2000 or NT. Following some pertinent info, I've got a few
>questions that I hope somebody here will be able to help me with...
>
>Applications to support are: Web design, desktop publishing, scientific data
>analysis (statistics and graphing), as well as regular office stuff.
>
>Each PC should cost no more than about $1500 US.
>
>Core (most important) requirements: -- good quality monitors, at least 17",
>but 19" would be great -- decent video card, probably 16 MB -- 128 MB of RAM
>-- fast cpu, with no compatibility gotchas (My boss is paranoid about
>non-Intel chips, and I don't know whether he should be or not. He thinks we
>should buy PIIIs.) -- fast harddrives (thinking of 3: 1 for swap space and
>temp storage, 1 for Win, 1 for Linux) -- fast, reliable network card --
>CD-ROM drive -- 3.5" floppy (but ideally one of those Imation multiformat
>drives--don't know if Linux supports them) -- USB, serial, parallel ports --
>bus and memory as fast as possible -- ergonomic keyboard and mouse -- the
>more open slots and bays, the better -- a Windows OS
>
>Some wish list stuff, that will otherwise be in addition to the $1500:
>-- SCSI for at least one PC, maybe two
>-- CD Writer for at least one PC
>
>Some other definite purchases in addition to the $1500:
>-- 1 tape drive for backup (am assuming that I'll need SCSI for this)
>-- 2 smart UPS
>-- 1 external modem
>
>I *don't* need
>-- internal modem
>-- sound card
>
>================
>
>Questions:
>
>1. What's the best system I'm likely to get that satisfies the core
>requirements while staying within the $1500 limit? 2. I have limited
>harware tinkering ability, but I can install and configure stuff like
>harddrives, cards, RAM, etc. Is there a barebones system I can get that I
>could add onto to get the setups I'm looking for? 3. What, if any, is the
>probable difference in $$$ I'd pay by going through a local shop to
>custom-build these, as opposed to buying on the 'net? 4. If I did want to
>buy online, who has the best deals, but is reputable? 5. Any ideas on
>individual components, keeping in mind the compatibility issues?
>
>Thanks for any suggestions!
>
>-- Pete
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Whoa ...
You are about to make a big mistake. You are not thinking for the
best interest of your company, or your career.
1. Ask a few people what PC store(s) your company generally deals
with.
2. Call them, and tell them your requirements and budget. (Budget is
sufficient). Make decision on best bang-for-buck, warranty, experience
with building LINUX configs, and delivery, if it is a factor.
3. Weigh best vendor/solution, put summary on paper. Run your decision
process with your boss before awarding bid.
4. Go on to something else
This is a test. If you worked for me, then this the type of
assignment I would give somebody to see if they can be left alone to
solve a business problem, or if you have to be micro-managed.
You will cost your company MORE time and money, if you even attempt to
go down the path of building your own pc, working out compatibility
issues, fumbling with loading multiple O/S's, and getting it all to
work. ... And of course, if you fail because you did it yourself to
"save" a few dollars, well, there are always lots of exciting
opportunities in the world of fast food.
You have a reasonable budget. Use it. Farm it to a company that
specializes in building/configuring PC's.
David A. Lethe
President - SANTools, Inc.
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From: "RP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem: Linux doesnt recognize my PCI NIC
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:32:23 GMT
it keeps giving me the message:
"Device or resource buissy"
when I try to run 'modprobe tulip'
what can I do?
its a PCI NIC of linksys which suppose to work just fine with the tulip.o
module
on the Windoz - it works great! but the linux doesnt recognize it.
I know what IO port or What IRQ it needs (assigned by the BIOS)
nothing is using those ports/IRQ (I tried the cat /proc/interrupts...)
so what else can be the problem?
any ideas???
Ron P
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From: "Warren Postma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's a cheap 100BaseT ethernet card?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:46:10 -0400
"Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What's a cheap 100BaseT ethernet card? Preferably with the tulip
> chipset since I know that has good driver support. TIA
I have used the Magitronics cards, and sometimes they are one chip,
sometimes another. If you can find a reseller who can tell you the chipset
of their cheap OEM cards, chances are you can find one with the Tulip
drivers on it. Also I recommend the Realtek RTL 8139 chipset, as they have
always worked problem free for me.
Warren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Setting IRQ for Network Interface Card
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:19:05 GMT
Kheng-Teong Goh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>How do I set IRQ for my NIC? Thank you.
Take a piece of paper, write IRQ on it, and carefully
place it on top of your computer case.
Seriously, you didn't really expect us to be able
to help you out with that blatant lack of available
information ?
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **)
Subject: (OT) Cluefulness (Was: Old Monitor)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.turbolinux,comp.os.linux.x.video
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:57:26 GMT
In <8i2ujh$qjl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer:
[Snip...]
|> :-). Perhaps - at least in this case - you are misinterpreting an
entirely innocuous sentence.
Ooookaaay...
[Snip...]
|> Instead of worrying about the social resonances that you are
|> reconstructing, I'd worry about truth and accuracy first. Worry whether
|> it looks polite to the abyssinian bushman later. You are all abyssinian
|> bushmen wrt 80% of the people out there!
???
I'm glad all is well with you, and I'll not be bothering you again.
[Snip...]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:17:51 -0400
From: Srikant Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pci orinoco driver for linux
Hi,
Can someone give me pointers to "PCI" drivers
for lucent's orinoco (wavelan) card on linux ?
It seems that there is support for isa and pcmcia
but couldn't get hold of pci drivers.
Every bit of help is apppreciated.
TIA
Srikant
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From: Kevin Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem: Linux doesnt recognize my PCI NIC
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:01:21 -0400
I've been having the same problem. Is this in conjunction with a cable
modem? I just got internet on cable (Rogers@Home) with a terayon cable
modem and this NIC (well, it uses the tulip driver, I forget the actual
NIC brand).
I'm anxiously awaiting for the CRTC to regulate cable modems & internet
cable ISP's so that 3com (and others I guess) can offer their cable modem
for sale here!!
How have you tried to set it up? DHCP? static?
I've tried both with no success. I read one document (forget the url) on
setting up Rogers@home service, but after following it word for word had
no luck. Back to the drawing board...
(Guess that new distro via FTP will have to wait...)
If anyone has anything useful to offer I'd love to hear it too.
Kevin Conway
Dept. of Anatomy and Cell Biology
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario
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From: "RP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem: Linux doesnt recognize my PCI NIC
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:21:45 GMT
I am using it for the @home internet service.
but it doesn't matter because I cann't get it to work on linux... I have
tried so many HOWTO's
but without luck...
on the windoz - it works great -> what frustrates even more!
:(
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Subject: Re: Athlon Locks in Linux?!?!
From: jurgyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:23:11 -0700
THIS HAS BEEN SOLVED!!!
There have been quite a few posts about Sound cards locking up
Athlon systems.
Many have suggested a bios change "Enable memory hole"
but this only allows linux to see upto 13Meg of RAM.
BUT, using kernel patch with smarter memory region detection from
here: > www.pell.portland.or.us/~orc/Memory/
now all is fine! no sound playing lockups.
layta!
JurgyMan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Iway Wu)
Subject: HELP: Hardware buggy on Linux install
Date: 12 Jun 2000 19:59:39 GMT
I've had Linux on this computer before. It started acting kinda funny
a while back which I attributed to the unstable release of Debian I
had. Now, NOTHING will stay stable on this machine.
SuperMicro S2DGE 440GX MB
256 MB Registered SDRAM
Dual Xeon 450 MHz 512k
Buslogic BT-958 SCSI Card
Seagate and IBM HDs on both normal and wide chain
Digital DE-500 10/100 NIC
I've checked the termination on the SCSI chains. I've tried pulling
all drives except on and a CD-ROM and installing RedHat Linux 6.2.
I've tried installing Debian 2.2 (still unstable). Regardless of it
all, I still get the same problems when the installation program
begins to start initializing (formatting) the paritions. This is the error
I get ...
current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010:[<c0108237>]
EFLAGS: 00010082
.
.
.
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing
I've check the memory with memtest86
(http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86) and it checks out ok.
I've tried attaching a known working IDE drive and IDE CD-ROM and get
the same type of error when beginning initialization of the paritions.
I've tried installing BeOS and it seems to install but is completely
unstable. After anywhere from 1 min to 1.5 hours depending on whether
the CPU is being taxed, BeOS completely locks up (no mouse, no
keyboard, only a hardware reset).
I've emailed SuperMicro and they suggested the SPD on the memory chip
was bad and to switch the BIOS setting for "Memory Autosizing" from
"Auto" to "Enable". I did that but everytime I reboot, the BIOS beeps
6 times which my manual indicates a keyboard error?!?
I think it's gotta be the motherboard or CPUs. Ok, possibly the
memory chip. I plan on replacing the chip with another nonregistered
SDRAM later tonight to check. But assumming it's not the memory, any
suggestions on how to isolate the problem?
Oh, and any explanation on what that type of error is would greatly be
appreciated. Thanks in advance
Frank
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From: Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Books
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:49:04 +0000
Stu wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I have installed a Linux distribution at home and started to get used to
> using it. I need a reference book which will fill in the knowledge gaps and
> get me up to speed quickly. I don't want to run before I can walk with
> Linux and so any suggestions for decent, lucid, informative, and generally
> easy to follow books to help me along which also stop me flooding the
> newsgroups on an hourly basis will be greatly appreciated. What did other
> users buy and has anyone purchased 'Linux Clearly Explained' as I'm
> considering that publication??
>
> As usual, all helpful replies are gratefully received,
>
> Stu
check out http://www.linux-2000.co.uk/books.htm
--
http://www.linux-2000.co.uk | Powered by SuSE Linux 6.4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux 2000 UK
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.turbolinux,comp.os.linux.x.video
Subject: Re: (OT) Cluefulness
Date: 12 Jun 2000 20:59:13 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In <8i2ujh$qjl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer:
: |> Instead of worrying about the social resonances that you are
: |> reconstructing, I'd worry about truth and accuracy first. Worry whether
: |> it looks polite to the abyssinian bushman later. You are all abyssinian
: |> bushmen wrt 80% of the people out there!
: ???
: I'm glad all is well with you, and I'll not be bothering you again.
I meant that people are strange. Don't assume they have the same social
values you do. In many societies it's polite to be rude (as you might
see it).
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels !
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:43:35 GMT
Siemens TFT MCF3501T with Siemens VGA-card (DFP,
Chips&technologies 65554 VGA-chip, 2MB video-ram)
works with SUSE 6.3/XFree86 3.3.5.
Regards
Konrad
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Markus Rahlff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone who ever got a digital DVI or DFP TFT
panel to work with
> X-Server ?
>
> I only got a flickering screen as soon as I
start X-Windows. When I
> connect a CRT-Monitor to the VGA-card ( Geforce
DDR DVI) I have a
> picture.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> Regards
>
> Markus
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels !
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:43:36 GMT
Siemens TFT MCF3501T with Siemens VGA-card (DFP,
Chips&technologies 65554 VGA-chip, 2MB video-ram)
works with SUSE 6.3/XFree86 3.3.5.
Regards
Konrad
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Markus Rahlff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone who ever got a digital DVI or DFP TFT
panel to work with
> X-Server ?
>
> I only got a flickering screen as soon as I
start X-Windows. When I
> connect a CRT-Monitor to the VGA-card ( Geforce
DDR DVI) I have a
> picture.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> Regards
>
> Markus
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels !
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:43:40 GMT
Siemens TFT MCF3501T with Siemens VGA-card (DFP,
Chips&technologies 65554 VGA-chip, 2MB video-ram)
works with SUSE 6.3/XFree86 3.3.5. I used sax to
configure XFree86 with standard svga driver.
Regards
Konrad
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Markus Rahlff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone who ever got a digital DVI or DFP TFT
panel to work with
> X-Server ?
>
> I only got a flickering screen as soon as I
start X-Windows. When I
> connect a CRT-Monitor to the VGA-card ( Geforce
DDR DVI) I have a
> picture.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> Regards
>
> Markus
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with DFP & DVI Panels !
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:43:38 GMT
Siemens TFT MCF3501T with Siemens VGA-card (DFP,
Chips&technologies 65554 VGA-chip, 2MB video-ram)
works with SUSE 6.3/XFree86 3.3.5.
If you use SUSE-linux try sax to configure your
vga-card, use auto-detect-option.
Regards
Konrad
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Markus Rahlff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone who ever got a digital DVI or DFP TFT
panel to work with
> X-Server ?
>
> I only got a flickering screen as soon as I
start X-Windows. When I
> connect a CRT-Monitor to the VGA-card ( Geforce
DDR DVI) I have a
> picture.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> Regards
>
> Markus
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Books
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:06:05 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, stuart@anker-
auto.netkonect.co.uk says...
>I need a reference book which will fill in the knowledge gaps and
>get me up to speed quickly.
"Running Linux" by Matt Welsh, et al., pub. O'Reilly
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ethan Alpert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Live (emu10k1 module) (yet another sound card problem)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:00:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ethan Alpert wrote:
> Jacek Pop�awski wrote:
>
> > Ethan Alpert wrote:
>
> > if IRQ is a problem - maybe you should change slot? but
> > I tried few slots and never have any conflict...
>
> I'll give this a try thanks.
Argh...In college I had a job where I was responsible for helping people
debug their printer and network connections. THE FIRST question I'd
always ask was: is it plugged in? Well I'm kicking myself now.
Apparently DELL didn't seat my sound card properly. When I removed it
and put it back in it worked fine.
-ethan
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From: James Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: epson stylus color 740 printer setup
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:05:32 -0500
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Huaiyu Zhu wrote:
>Trying to set up epson stylus color 740 printer without success. I can
>print with gs in low resolution but can't setup the automatic filter with
>the printtool of RedHat6.1.
>
>In the printtool, there is an item Epson Stylus Color (UP), which presumably
>means usb+parallel. Under this there are three items having the advertised
>resolution 1440x720dpi: stc600, stc800 and stc1520. I first tried stc600,
>which prints ascii ok, but bombed on postscript test, spitting out pages
>with a single line of funny characters. Same goes for stc800.
>
>The way I printed it with gs was
>gs -sDEVICE=epsonc -sOutputFile=tiger.epson
>/usr/share/ghostscript/5.50/examples/tiger.ps
>lpr tiger.epson
>It came out with about 300x300 resolution. Using -r1440x720 resulted in
>@@@@@@O on every page.
>
>The /etc/printcap entry is
>##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL uniprint NAxNA letter {} U_EpsonStylusColor stc800ih {}
>color:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/color:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:\
> :lp=/dev/lp0:\
> :if=/var/spool/lpd/color/filter:
>
>Thanks in advance for any pointer.
>
>--
>Huaiyu
>
>Please note the antispam Reply-To field.
The link below helped me. The link is compliments of Andrey Vlasov
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/show_printer.cgi?recnum=62112
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From: "Matthew McCleary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How does dual-heading work?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:32:59 -0600
I am considering running a dual-head configuration on my RH6.2 box. I have
an STB V4400 AGP card that will drive one monitor and an ATI Xpert 98 PCI
card that will drive the other. How does one go about setting this up? Is it
even possible to do dual-head without a GUI? I would like to possibly put
compiles and syslog on one monitor (i.e. a 15" or smaller) and everything
else on the bigger monitor. Would this be possible? I welcome suggestions.
Also, I don't know which graphics card would be faster for GUI work. The
V4400 has a TNT chip, but that's mostly good for 3D stuff--I wouldn't see
much if any benefit unless I was playing games--at least, I think so.
Can anyone relate any personal experience in this area? I've gotten SMP up
and running (dual Celerons), so now it's on to the next challenge.
Thanks,
Matthew McCleary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Opinions expressed are mine and not those of my employer)
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How does dual-heading work?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:01:06 -0700
Hi,
check here,
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO.html
Andrey
Matthew McCleary wrote:
> I am considering running a dual-head configuration on my RH6.2 box. I have
> an STB V4400 AGP card that will drive one monitor and an ATI Xpert 98 PCI
> card that will drive the other. How does one go about setting this up? Is it
> even possible to do dual-head without a GUI? I would like to possibly put
> compiles and syslog on one monitor (i.e. a 15" or smaller) and everything
> else on the bigger monitor. Would this be possible? I welcome suggestions.
>
> Also, I don't know which graphics card would be faster for GUI work. The
> V4400 has a TNT chip, but that's mostly good for 3D stuff--I wouldn't see
> much if any benefit unless I was playing games--at least, I think so.
>
> Can anyone relate any personal experience in this area? I've gotten SMP up
> and running (dual Celerons), so now it's on to the next challenge.
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew McCleary
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Opinions expressed are mine and not those of my employer)
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