Linux-Hardware Digest #85, Volume #13            Wed, 21 Jun 00 13:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Advance Logic how to install ? ("Shura")
  Re: RH6.2 install fails on new Dell Dimension: can find hard drive ("Chris Myers")
  Re: IDE- SMP troubles (John Gluck)
  Re: Water cooling system (David C.)
  Re: Linux on Aviion (David C.)
  Re: Water cooling system (David C.)
  Re: Linux on Aviion (David C.)
  Re: External Modem`s (Richard Watson)
  Re: Water cooling system (H Dziardziel)
  Epson Stylus Color 740 ("Eric J. Shamow")
  Re: Athlon problems (Jim Chisholm)
  Re: dell PerRaid controller? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DDS3 backup problem? (Andrey Vlasov)
  Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Richard Clafton")

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From: "Shura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Advance Logic how to install ?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:16:59 +0400

Hello All!

Help to install on Mandrake 7.0  sound card Advance Logic ALS-120 and
ALS4000

Beforehand grateful.

Shura
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Chris Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: RH6.2 install fails on new Dell Dimension: can find hard drive
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:17:27 GMT

This may seem like a rather amateurish question but have you tried
installing from a CD or downloading the packages, creating a boot floppy,
and installing that way instead of using a network install?

Chris


Charlie Zender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Aargh,
>
> I just got the following system and windows98 runs fine on it.
> I used partition magic to reduce windows partition from 40GB to
> 5 GB leaving 35 GB unformatted and ready for linux. Installing
> RedHat 6.2 over the network using bootnet.img and FTP method works
> fine until aborting with following error "No valid devices were
> found on which to create new filesystems". This error occurs in
> GNOME, custom, and expert mode installs.
>
> Hardware:
> Dell Dimension T Minitower 800 MHz PIII
> 256 MB RAM
> 40 GB Ultra ATA 7200 RPM with ATA 66 controller
> NIC: 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI PCI For Complete PC Management (3c905c-TX)
> NVIDIA TNT2 M64 4xAGP w 32MB RAM
> Microsoft PS/2 Mouse (Intellipoint)
> Promise Technology Inc. Ultra66 IDE Controller
> Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
> 120 MB Super disk, aka LS120
> Sony 8X/4X/32X CD-RW drive
>
> From the error message it appears that the installation procedure
> does not recognize the hard disk. What should I do?
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Charlie eilrahC
> --
> Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of
> Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100



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From: John Gluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE- SMP troubles
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:12:48 -0400

It sounds like you might have some kind of hardware problem.
I have a Dual PIII with a SCSI and 3 IDE drives. I use 2.2.13 and 2.2.14
with SMP
No problem.

Lately I went to 2.4-test1 also no problem.

Some comments also in your text

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have a pretty new IBM 20G drive, ATA-66, and an Abit BP6 motherboard
> (Dual Celerons).
>
> For the life of me I can't get smp working with my ide drive.
> Depending on which kernel version I use, I get mildly different results.
> Normally it gets an error about a null dereference and oops's out.
>
> Finally I tried using the 2.2.16 kernel with and without the Unified
> ide patch, and now it just reboots when it comes time to setup the hard
> drive.

Are you booting from a floppy or the hard drive??? I'm confused.
You seem to indicate that it loads to a point and then fails. What do you
mean by "setup the hard drive"

>
>
> I'd appreciate any help if someone can clue me in to what is wrong, or
> any steps I should take to fix it.
>

Do you have another drive from another manufacturer???
I have Quantums and Maxtors

>
> booting into non smp mode works just great.

I don't think Celerons were intended to be used for SMP machines. Maybe
Intel finally did
something to prevent it.

>
>
> Or if someone has a similar configuration, could you clue me in.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

--
John Gluck  (Passport Kernel Design Group)

(613) 765-8392  ESN 395-8392

Unless otherwise stated, any opinions expressed here are strictly my own
and do not reflect any official position of Nortel Networks.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: 21 Jun 2000 11:26:46 -0400

Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>       I currently have one Celeron 433 which is Always functioning at
> 100% of capacity ( i always have a few animation renders of povray
> runing with low priority)...  when the CPU is not in use it's at 38C
> and when it's at 100% capacity it's at 40-42C...  I have a fan on the
> CPU which expulse the heat out into the room...  That's fine... but
> the room in which the heat is expulsed is actually my bedroom...  and
> this summer it's kind of real hot in it...  And since I'm going to buy
> another computer in a month or two to make a supercomputer I figured I
> could probably not survive the heat!
> 
>       That's why I thought about a water cooling system, the heat
> could be given to the water passing through some tube and back into a
> reservoir...  That reservoir could then heat my bedroom unless I added
> ice into it!  And of course a fish pump would be more silent, since I
> could have only one fish pump for all the tubing network across all my
> computers!
> 
>       The only detail would be the little device that would catch heat
> from the CPU, the heatsink should be modified to fit my water
> requirement...

IMO, it's not worth the effort.  And I'd never trust any system that
involves pumping water through my computer.  All it takes is one little
leak, or a drip from condensation, and you've got a fried motherboard.

Second, the plastic tubing that is used with fish-tank pumps won't
exchange heat very well.  You're going to need something meatlic.
Perhaps copper tubing.  This isn't easy to work with, and you may have a
hard time fitting it onto your fish pump.

And once you've got cold metal in your computer, you've got
condensation.  You're going to need a way to keep it from dripping on
your electronics.

If your goal is to keep the computer cool, look into an extra fan.  Make
sure your heat sinks are all attached with thermal compound.  Consider
an active cooler (like the Peltier units).

If your goal is to keep the room cool, I suggest you buy an air
conditioner for the room.  Put it in the window and turn it on when it
gets hot out.  (Make sure you've got a 20-amp outlet nearby, however.
Don't put it on the same circuit with your computer - air conditioners
create power surges when they turn on.)

> Has anybody work on the subjet, can anybody direct my to a few
> documentation webpage or a FAQ, primer.... anything!  Or if you have
> any other suggestion that wouldn't cost much (I'm quite out of cash!)

You're broke, but you're going to be buying a new computer in a month or
two?  Take the money for that new computer and spend it on an A/C unit.
You'll be much happier in the long run.

Sure, your scheme is cheap, but I don't think it will work well, and
there is the very real possibility of dripping water onto your
motherboard, which will ruin it.  If you get the parts and do the work
needed to make the water-cooling system work, you're probably going to
find it too expensive anyway.

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Subject: Re: Linux on Aviion
Date: 21 Jun 2000 11:30:02 -0400

Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Lynn Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> Well, maybe. I don't know the AViiON hardware yet. There are
>> potential customers who have these machines running DG/UX and I think
>> NT. Don't know the model numbers yet; heard that they could be the
>> AviiON 5000's. Can't find it on DG's web site. But they are all
>> Intel, not Motorola, cpu's.  What is your configuration?
> 
> what do you mean by configuration?  i've got four ppros and 256MB of
> ram.

You aren't talking about the same systems.  Data General and ALR are two
different companies.  The Aviion is not a PC-compatible computer.

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: 21 Jun 2000 11:33:15 -0400

"Eric W Braeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Guys, water cooling is not a joke. It is for real. If done correctly
> it is safe and about 25 times more effective in removing heat from
> your CPU or even vid card!!

And very expensive to install and maintain.

> By the time was are all running 2+ GHz machines we might all be using
> liquid cooling.

Doubtful.  No PC manufacturer will be able to mass-market a system that
requires a plumber to run a water/drain line to your desktop in order to
cool the computer.

It's even less likely that anyone could mass-market a system that
requires the user to change an ice bucket every few hours.

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Subject: Re: Linux on Aviion
Date: 21 Jun 2000 11:48:58 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.) writes:
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > "Lynn Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> 
> >> Well, maybe. I don't know the AViiON hardware yet. There are
> >> potential customers who have these machines running DG/UX and I think
> >> NT. Don't know the model numbers yet; heard that they could be the
> >> AviiON 5000's. Can't find it on DG's web site. But they are all
> >> Intel, not Motorola, cpu's.  What is your configuration?
> > 
> > what do you mean by configuration?  i've got four ppros and 256MB of
> > ram.
> 
> You aren't talking about the same systems.  Data General and ALR are two
> different companies.  The Aviion is not a PC-compatible computer.

OK.  I spoke too soon.  I just went to DG's site.

They used to be workstations based on the Motorola 88K that could only
run DG's version of UNIX (DG-UX)  See http://www.tlc4u.com/dg.main.htm
for what remains in the way of tech support for this architecture.

Today's models appear to be Intel P3/Xeon-based systems with custom SMP
chips to allow ludicrous numbers of processors.  (Up to 1024 on one of
their systems.)  They claim support for WinNT, Win2K, DG/UX and SCO
UnixWare.  I assume that WinNT, Win2K and SCO are customized versions,
since Intel's generic SMP chipset only supports up to 8 processors.

-- David

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From: Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: External Modem`s
Date: 21 Jun 2000 16:13:55 +0100

Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The Motorola L7089 cellphone (using the data cable) is an external winmodem.
> 
> (oddly enough, when used over infrared it's a hardware modem, though with
>  fewer features)

But I take it that it's not a serial port modem?

I'd like to know of a winmodem that operates entirely on a serial
connection. 

-- 
Richard Watson                                  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentagon Web Design Ltd                         ICQ:   65274884

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Dziardziel)
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:08:58 GMT

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:56:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
wrote:

><snip>
>> Kludge-method for cooling monitor:
>> 
>> 1) acquire a small refrigerator (i.e. "beer fridge")
>> 2) cut a video-tube-sized opening in the door
>> 3) fit monitor components within the cooling cavity, placing
>>    video-tube such that it mounts cleenly in the opening in the
>>    fridge door.
>> 4) close fridge door
>> 5) plug in fridge
>> 6) connect monitor
>> 7) commence use of monitor
>> 
>> ;-)
><snip>
>
>Of course, that doesn't help at all with keeping the room cool since a
>refrigerator will only pump heat from the inside(the monitor) to the
>outside(the room) with additional heat in the process! I think the
>original question in the this thread was how to keep the room cool.
>-- 
>Prasanth Kumar
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Easy, you bring the 6 packs from the fridge in the kitchen.

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From: "Eric J. Shamow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Epson Stylus Color 740
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:48:38 -0000

Hi all -

I'm working with an Epson SC740, kernel version 2.2.16, and I've run into
something of a wall:

The print daemon is running, the parallel support module is loaded, and yet
my printer refuses to print.  Output redirected to /dev/lp0 produces no
response, but no error messages either.  The cable is fine, the printer is
fine.

Just for kicks I tried running the APSFilter config (don't know why this
would work if > /dev/lp0 wouldn't) - same deal, no error message, and no
printing.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance -

-Eric




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From: Jim Chisholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Athlon problems
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:49:42 -0300


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James Pearson wrote:

> I'm having problems running Redhat 6.2 on an Athlon box - it freezes
> when I try to run mkfs on a disk partition.
>
> My set up:
>
> Athlon 700Mhz, Gigabyte 7IX mainboard, 256Mb RAM, 2 IBM
> Ultra66 disks (IBM-DTLA-307030).
>
> Redhat 6.2 with kernel 2.2.14-12.
>
> The root disk has a 2Gb root partition, 512Mb swap and the rest spare.
>
> I can install RH6.2, but when I try run mkfs on the large spare
> partition, the machine freezes. It also freezes if I try to dd to the
> raw spare partition.
>
> I've also tried:
>
> - installing kernel 2.2.15 + ide.2.2.15.20000509 + raid-2.2.15-A0
>
> - using a Promise Ultra66 PCI controller, instead of the on board IDE
> controller
>
> .. but with no improvement.
>
> However, if I replace the mainboard/CPU with a Intel based mainboard and
> a PII (with or without the Promise controller), it works fine (although
> slower).
>
> Can anyone suggest anything else? Could the Athlon/mainboard be faulty?
>
> Is there any other kernel tweak I could make?
>
> For various reasons, I don't want to use a 2.3 based kernel ...
>
> Thanks
>
> James Pearson
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Don't happen to have a G400 video card do you?
Athlon700 + G400 = tempermental (IMHO)

Jim

--

=======================================================
Jim Chisholm
Dalhousie University, Dept. Physics Halifax N.S. Canada
Halifax Regional Fire and Emergency Service
Captain/President  Bay Road Station 59
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James Pearson wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I'm having problems running Redhat 6.2 on an Athlon
box - it freezes
<br>when I try to run mkfs on a disk partition.
<p>My set up:
<p>Athlon 700Mhz, Gigabyte 7IX mainboard, 256Mb RAM, 2 IBM
<br>Ultra66 disks (IBM-DTLA-307030).
<p>Redhat 6.2 with kernel 2.2.14-12.
<p>The root disk has a 2Gb root partition, 512Mb swap and the rest spare.
<p>I can install RH6.2, but when I try run mkfs on the large spare
<br>partition, the machine freezes. It also freezes if I try to dd to the
<br>raw spare partition.
<p>I've also tried:
<p>- installing kernel 2.2.15 + ide.2.2.15.20000509 + raid-2.2.15-A0
<p>- using a Promise Ultra66 PCI controller, instead of the on board IDE
<br>controller
<p>.. but with no improvement.
<p>However, if I replace the mainboard/CPU with a Intel based mainboard
and
<br>a PII (with or without the Promise controller), it works fine (although
<br>slower).
<p>Can anyone suggest anything else? Could the Athlon/mainboard be faulty?
<p>Is there any other kernel tweak I could make?
<p>For various reasons, I don't want to use a 2.3 based kernel ...
<p>Thanks
<p>James Pearson
<p>Sent via Deja.com <a href="http://www.deja.com/">http://www.deja.com/</a>
<br>Before you buy.</blockquote>
Don't happen to have a G400 video card do you?
<br>Athlon700 + G400 = tempermental (IMHO)
<p>Jim
<pre>--&nbsp;

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Jim 
Chisholm&nbsp;<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Dalhousie University, Dept. Physics Halifax N.S. Canada
Halifax Regional Fire and Emergency Service&nbsp;
Captain/President&nbsp; Bay Road Station 59
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dell PerRaid controller?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:41:28 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Barry Gilman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All!
>
>     I recently bought a Dell PowerEdge 2400 Server with a PercRaid
> controller (2/si). And have had a lot of difficulty getting the Redhat
> 6.2 Installer to recognize it. I went to the Dell support site and
> downloaded the percraid driver, went throught the installation
> procedure and still cannot get the installer to recognize the Raid
> configuration.
>
> It does recognize a normal SCSI config. Has anyone gotten this
> baby to recognize  RAID 5 set-up? Thanks in advance! I really need
> the help!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Brian Gilman


Hey Brian,
  I just received a 2400 yesterday preloaded with Linux and configured
with onboard Intel nic, dual 600/133 coppermines, 320 MB, and onboard
RAID mirroring 9 GB.  I didn't like Dell's install of linux because it
had way to much extra stuff installed so instead of removing it and
wondering if I got it all, I blew it away and did a fresh install.
I used a stock downloaded and burned copy of Redhat 6.2 and the
Dell driver disk for the RAID, didn't have any problems.  Here's what
you do:

1)  Grab PRC2dd21.zip from Dell's site, it's the disk image for the
    Redhat driver disk.  Use rawrite from the cdrom:\dosutils directory
    to write it to floppy.
2)  Boot the 2400 off the redhat cd, F3, expert
3)  Provide the disk when it asks.
4)  The tricky part is next, you'd think that your driver disk was just
    used but it wasn't!!  So when expert setup pops up the screen that
    says add hardware or whatever, you have to add scsi controller and
    choose "Percraid" from the list!  Then add the internal Intel NIC
    too.
5)  That should get your disks online so you can do the rest of the
    setup.
6)  After installation, you'll want to get the rh62pr2.zip file and
    rh62ret.zip file from Dell and put them on your linux box somehow.
    Use the rh62ret.zip to upgrade your kernel and associated files,
    like pcmcia, icbs, source, headers, etc.  I chose to use the
    2.2.14-6.1.1smp kernel although it has one newer kernel version on
    there.  The reason is that I had bad stability problems with
    2.2.14-12 on another dual cpu box running an Intel NIC when high
    network usage was present.  The 6.1.1smp kernel works fine for me.
    After that upgrade, but BEFORE rebooting, force the rpm install of
    the file in the rh62pr2.zip so your perc drivers will be updated
    for the new kernel.
7)  Reboot, cross your fingers, and you're done.  I did this pretty
    easily and the server is working fine now.  One thing I did notice,
    and anyone feel free to give me some ideas on why, is that when the
    disks are under heavy usage, the console becomes extremely slow,
    even for cpu bound processes that don't do much i/o.  For example,
    I started bonnie (a disk benchmarking program) and while it was
    hammering the disks, I started top, but it took quite some time for
    top to come up on my dual-600 box... I don't think that should be.

Good luck,

Dave


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DDS3 backup problem?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:04:52 -0700


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Hi,

it could be a dip switches matter, check next webpages and I hope that the
problem will be resolved.
But keep in mind that standard "mt" command also has options to switch
compression on and of.
Drive itself also has dip switches - enable compression and switch
compression on at power on.
In short words just go and read this documentation and you will know your
drive better. It was a day
when I connect it to SunStation and WindowsNT and I had same question - and
this pages really help
to find that for PC and Sun dip switches should be in diffrent positions.

http://search.hp.com/query.html?qt=C1537A&col=hpcom+ccen&origin=&qp=&qs=&qc=&ws=0&st=1&lk=1&rf=2&oq=&rq=0&nh=10&submit.x=27&submit.y=17

http://www.hp.com/cposupport/information_storage/support_doc/lpg51068.html
http://www.hp.com/cposupport/information_storage/support_doc/lpg51257.html
http://www.hp.com/cposupport/docindex/hpsurestor9640_solve_prob1.htmlhttp://search.hp.com/ccprod/query.html?rq=0&qt=C1537A+switches&qp=prod_name%3A%22HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive%22&origqp=prod_name%3A%22HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive%22&origin=&qs=&qc=&ws=0&qm=0&st=1&lk=1&rf=2&oq=&hpn=Return+to+HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive+Customer+Care&hps=HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive+Customer+Care&hpr=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hp.com%2Fcposupport%2Fdocindex%2Fhpsurestor9640_solve_prob1.html&col=custcare&Submit.x=6&Submit.y=7

NOTE: It pass more than two years and now I do not remember all details as
I do not have this
      device.
Andrey

Bird Chen wrote:

> Hi,
>   Is there any experience on DDS3 backup? I have a HP C1537A dds3 tape
> drive that I want to use it for my data backup. But when I backup a file
> system which is 1.3G in space, with tar command (tar cvf /dev/st0 ./*),
> I will get the error message(no space left on device). And I tried the
> 90M or 120M tape with the same error.
>   But when I tried the very same backup procedure on a dds2 tape
> drive(C1533A) with 90M tape, it backuped successfully.
>   Is there any one who have the experience or what kind of the driver I
> have to use?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bird Chen



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<tt>Hi,</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>it could be a dip switches matter, check next webpages and I hope
that the problem will be resolved.</tt>
<br><tt>But keep in mind that standard "mt" command also has options to
switch compression on and of.</tt>
<br><tt>Drive itself also has dip switches - enable compression and switch
compression on at power on.</tt>
<br><tt>In short words just go and read this documentation and you will
know your drive better. It was a day</tt>
<br><tt>when I&nbsp;connect it to SunStation and WindowsNT and I had same
question - and this pages really help</tt>
<br><tt>to find that for PC and Sun dip switches should be in diffrent
positions.</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt><A 
HREF="http://search.hp.com/query.html?qt=C1537A&col=hpcom+ccen&amp;amp;origin=&amp;amp;qp=&amp;amp;qs=&amp;amp;qc=&amp;amp;ws=0&amp;amp;st=1&amp;amp;lk=1&amp;amp;rf=2&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;rq=0&amp;amp;nh=10&amp;amp;submit.x=27&amp;amp;submit.y=17">http://search.hp.com/query.html?qt=C1537A&amp;col=hpcom+ccen&amp;amp;origin=&amp;amp;qp=&amp;amp;qs=&amp;amp;qc=&amp;amp;ws=0&amp;amp;st=1&amp;amp;lk=1&amp;amp;rf=2&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;rq=0&amp;amp;nh=10&amp;amp;submit.x=27&amp;amp;submit.y=17</A></tt>
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<br><tt><A 
HREF="http://www.hp.com/cposupport/information_storage/support_doc/lpg51257.html">http://www.hp.com/cposupport/information_storage/support_doc/lpg51257.html</A></tt>
<br><tt><A 
HREF="http://www.hp.com/cposupport/docindex/hpsurestor9640_solve_prob1.htmlhttp://search.hp.com/ccprod/query.html?rq=0&qt=C1537A+switches&amp;amp;qp=prod_name%3A%22HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive%22&amp;amp;origqp=prod_name%3A%22HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive%22&amp;amp;origin=&amp;amp;qs=&amp;amp;qc=&amp;amp;ws=0&amp;amp;qm=0&amp;amp;st=1&amp;amp;lk=1&amp;amp;rf=2&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;hpn=Return+to+HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive+Customer+Care&amp;amp;hps=HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive+Customer+Care&amp;amp;hpr=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hp.com%2Fcposupport%2Fdocindex%2Fhpsurestor9640_solve_prob1.html&amp;amp;col=custcare&amp;amp;Submit.x=6&amp;amp;Submit.y=7">http://www.hp.com/cposupport/docindex/hpsurestor9640_solve_prob1.htmlhttp://search.hp.com/ccprod/query.html?rq=0&amp;qt=C1537A+switches&amp;amp;qp=prod_name%3A%22HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive%22&amp;amp;origqp=prod_name%3A%22HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive%22&amp;amp;origin=&amp;amp;qs=&amp;amp;qc=&amp;amp;ws=0&amp;amp;qm=0&amp;amp;st=1&amp;amp;lk=1&amp;amp;rf=2&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;hpn=Return+to+HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive+Customer+Care&amp;amp;hps=HP+SureStore+DAT24i+Internal+DAT+Drive+Customer+Care&amp;amp;hpr=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hp.com%2Fcposupport%2Fdocindex%2Fhpsurestor9640_solve_prob1.html&amp;amp;col=custcare&amp;amp;Submit.x=6&amp;amp;Submit.y=7</A></tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>NOTE: It pass more than two years and now I do not remember all
details as I do not have this</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; device.</tt>
<br><tt>Andrey</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>Bird Chen wrote:</tt>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><tt>Hi,</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp; Is there any experience on DDS3 backup? I have a HP C1537A
dds3 tape</tt>
<br><tt>drive that I want to use it for my data backup. But when I backup
a file</tt>
<br><tt>system which is 1.3G in space, with tar command (tar cvf /dev/st0
./*),</tt>
<br><tt>I will get the error message(no space left on device). And I tried
the</tt>
<br><tt>90M or 120M tape with the same error.</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp; But when I tried the very same backup procedure on a dds2
tape</tt>
<br><tt>drive(C1533A) with 90M tape, it backuped successfully.</tt>
<br><tt>&nbsp; Is there any one who have the experience or what kind of
the driver I</tt>
<br><tt>have to use?</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>Best regards,</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>Bird Chen</tt></blockquote>

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From: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:05:13 -0700


"Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8iq7le$avc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A man of my word - for all you techies out their who would like to build
> themselves a 1U Server to their own specification, we now have available a
> BARE BONES kit with 1U Case, PSU, Motherboard and Floppy Drive - rack
> mounting kit and all other accessories.
>
> www.OSRAQ.com/prices.htm
>
> Richard Clafton
> Technical Director
> OSR@Q Servers
> www.OSRAQ.com
>
Plonker here: Of course, due to the fact that I am still using web
forwarding the above url would not work. ;-)!

the correct url is: www.oseu.co.uk/prices.htm

Thats what you get when you let a Windows blokey in a Linux News Group ;o)

Regards

Richard



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