Linux-Hardware Digest #87, Volume #13            Wed, 21 Jun 00 21:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Abit KA7 and mouse problems ("Nathan Appleton")
  Re: ATI Xpert 2000 (David C.)
  Re: Need soundcard suggestion. ("Nathan Appleton")
  ethernet/harddrive problems (greg jones)
  Driver XWindows ("Gonzalo Seriche V")
  Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
  Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution ("Richard Clafton")
  Re: Need a clean hard disk (Charlie Brown)
  Re: IDE TR-4 tape & RH6.1 (John E Suche)
  Re: 2.2.16 Redhat RPM install breaks 2940uw (mark kennett)
  Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution (Jonathan McDowell)
  2 UPS's, 1 monitor, and (n) CPU's possible? (Chris Sherman)
  Re: Need driver for Aureal Quad 2500 audio card! (Craig McCluskey)
  Re: hardware recommendations for athlon system ("Dave Slutzkin")
  Re: hardware recommendations for athlon system (Tony Curtis)
  Re: ATI Xpert 2000 ("bdl")
  Re: Help on motherboard decision (Scott Hemphill)

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From: "Nathan Appleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Abit KA7 and mouse problems
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:18:00 -0700


There have been several reports of problems with the mouse and the KA7.  The
Linux Hardware Database page for the KA7
(http://www.linhardware.com/db/dispproduct.php3?DISP?1149) contains several
user comments and workarounds, it appears that a BIOS update solves most of
the problems.  Please post your comments and ratings to LhD if you find that
a BIOS flash does or doesn't work.


"Neal Bambha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Yes, I have the same problems with Abit KA7 /Athlon 800/RH6.1
> Previously I had an Abit BH6/Celeron 300, with no problems.
> The X server also crashes (as much as Windows)
>
> Neal Bambha
>
>
>
>
>
> Dan Lapine wrote:
>
> > Anybody out there having problems with the mouse in XWindows? Fresh
> > install of RH62 and the mouse goes flaky every so often, usually after a
> > button press. By flaky, I mean the spurious menus pop up or the location
> > changes.
> >
> > --
> > Daniel LaPine
> > Student at National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: ATI Xpert 2000
Date: 21 Jun 2000 17:19:55 -0400

"Jonathan M. Paley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>     I just bought an ATI Xpert 2000 (AGP) card to replace the card I'm
> currently using.  I've tried to install it on my machine, and though
> it seemed to work fine in VGA mode, when I tried to configure X,
> Xconfigurator, after testing X, tells me there's an error in my
> configuration.  Xconfigurator can never seem to find how much memory
> the card has (though it finds the card type when I run it), and so
> I've tried setting it to 8, 16 and 32 MB, neither of which work.  I've
> also tried various resolution settings, though I don't think this has
> much to do with anything.

What chipset is in this card?  If it's the Rage-128 chipset, you must
have XFree86 version 3.3.6 or later.  The Mach64 driver is not
compatible with the Rage-128 chipset.

-- David

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From: "Nathan Appleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: Need soundcard suggestion.
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:23:22 -0700

This is a good resource for sound cards and linux:
http://www.linhardware.com/db/searchproduct.cgi?_catid=12

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ir5v7$lvc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Look at the Sound Blaster Live! Platinum. It has everything under the
> sun and for only $150.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: greg jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet/harddrive problems
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:27:20 GMT

i've go an hpt66 ata controller and it works fine.  i had to add an
append="..." in lilo, but it works.  the problem is when i remove my
ethernet card(s), linux no longer detects the hard drive (even though it
starts booting off of it) /dev/hde2.  the boot craps out when checking
the partitions.  i had it working before i installed the networks
cards.  removing either one or both cause the boot to fail.  i don't
know what the problem is.
i had an append for the ethernet cards (to detect both), but took that
out.
i'm running mandrake 7.0,  kernel version 2.2.15 on an abit bp6 with a
hpt66 udma controller

thanks,
greg




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From: "Gonzalo Seriche V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Driver XWindows
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:57:27 -0400

I have a problem whit my video driver
I have a Diamond Speedstar A55 and I need some Help About my device
Thanks If U read this message



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From: Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:27:31 -0500

DeAnn Iwan wrote:
> 
> peter wrote:
> >
> > I'm setting up two 486 linux systems, one will be a small web sever,
> > firewall, and ip masq.
> >
> > The other will be a machine to write perl programs on.
> >
> > I have two 250 meg drives, I don't plan to install X, so which distro
> > is out there that will allow me to do what i want to do on the 486's
> > ???
> >
> 
>      Any major distribution will probably work.  Note that how much
> memory you have and whether or not you have a CDROM drive enter into
> play here.  The latest RH, SUSE, and other graphical interfaces like
> lots of RAM (RH 6.2 will complain about 32 MB RAM, but will install,
> etc.).  I have been unable to get SUSE 6.1 or 6.4 to do an NFS install
> from machines even with 32 MB RAM; they seem to get caught thrashing
> between trying to load appriate parts of YAST, the install packages and
> so forth and eventually freeze up.  After 2 weeks, I've given up.  (I
> had done NFS installs with RH 5.0 very smoothly.  I suspect it has to do
> with distros taking advantage of the new kernels ability to preload one
> kernel/OS and then finalize with another.  If they are finalizing across
> NFS and do not have enough local RAM/storage, then they tangle.)
> 
>      Unless you have lots of RAM and a local cdrom, moving to Debian or
> Slackware can be good.  Both distributions allow you to install a small
> Linux system from around a dozen floppies.  You can then download the
> rest of what you want via ftp, NFS, etc.


SuSE up to version 6.3 will install over NFS on machines with as little
as 8 MB of RAM.  I know, I've got two at home set up that way.  You just
have to pass the lilo line:
manual vga=normal
and set it up via the old YAST1 method.  Not too painful, and it allows
you a lot more options.

Although, I'm not going to dispute you that Debian and Slack have a lot
of merit on an older/smaller machine.  I'm planning on doing a Debian
install on one of the aforementioned machines when the next version is
"stable" released.  Hopefully soon.

Nathaniel Jay Lee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:59:12 +0100
Reply-To: "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8iqst4$ob4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Richard Clafton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8iq7le$avc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > A man of my word - for all you techies out their who would like to build
> > themselves a 1U Server to their own specification, we now have available
a
> > BARE BONES kit with 1U Case, PSU, Motherboard and Floppy Drive - rack
> > mounting kit and all other accessories.
> >
> > www.OSRAQ.com/prices.htm
> >
> > Richard Clafton
> > Technical Director
> > OSR@Q Servers
> > www.OSRAQ.com
> >
> Plonker here: Of course, due to the fact that I am still using web
> forwarding the above url would not work. ;-)!
>
> the correct url is: www.oseu.co.uk/prices.htm
>
> Thats what you get when you let a Windows blokey in a Linux News Group ;o)
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
This is embarrasing! Two boo boos in one day!  It's been brought to my
attention that I had calculated the figures for the BARE BONES kit minus the
SlimLine Fan and PCI Riser Cards - I have adjusted the figures accordingly.

Anybody who has emailed before this adjustment will have their orders
honoured at the orginal price.

Looks like no beer for me this month.

Regards

Richard Clafton



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Brown)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Need a clean hard disk
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:59:22 GMT

On 21 Jun 2000 11:08:20 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.) shocked the
world by writing:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Brown) writes:
>> 
>> I'm not quite sure exactly you want to do, but if you truly want to
>> clean a drive, try a utility (such as WIPE.EXE from IBM) that will
>> write zeros to each sector, returning the drive to esentially the same
>> state it was in when it was first sold. That is, needing an
>> fdisk/format.
>
>Actually, this is less than when it was first sold.
>
>Every drive I've bought came from the factory with a partition table and
>at least one FAT (or Mac HFS, depending on vendor and drive model)
>partition on it.
>
>Some (like an ancient Seagate ST-296N) included a small partition
>containing formatting utilities (in this case, an OEM version of
>OnTrack).  (The instruction sheet with the drive then directs you to
>copy the program to floppies, and repartition/reformat the drive using
>it.)
>
>-- David

Every drive I've purchased recently (in the last several years) has
needed a fdisk/format before it could be used. Since the fdisk/format
procedure is what writes the boot sector, partition table and FAT, it
would seem that you'e been buying drives that have been
fdisk/formatted for you.
If the drives you have purchased have come in pre-built systems, they
were indeed fdisk/formatted for you.
Yes, I've bought drives way back when that were fdisked/formatted,
too. But that was then, this is now. :-)

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:14:43 -0400
From: John E Suche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE TR-4 tape & RH6.1

John Barry wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> I took a working Seagate CTT8000-A TR-4 4/8GB IDE drive, and put it on the
> second IDE channel of a Dell PowerEdge 1300.
>
> It's recognized by RedHat (Dell installed) 6.1 on booting, as "hdd", which I
> take to mean /dev/hdd.
>
> The drive is NOT on the Hardware Compatibility List at www.linhardware.com.
>
> Tar will run when I try to write tarfiles to this drive, but no writing, or
> subsequent reading, takes place.
>
> Should I use a different device-file for this drive?  Do I need some kludge?
> Or should I go SCSI tape?
>
> TIA,
> John

You need to use /dev/ht0 (rewinding device) or /dev/nht0 (non-rewinding
device).

To back up, say a directory to tape, the command would look something like
this:

tar -cvf /dev/ht0 home

(this will copy the /home directory to tape.  you also need to be root when you
do this.  its a permissions thing)

You should read the man pages for tar (man tar) and the man pages for mt (man
mt).  The "mt" command allows you to position the tape for multiple backups to
the tape when using /dev/nht0.

Regards,

John Suche


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From: mark kennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.16 Redhat RPM install breaks 2940uw
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:38:02 GMT

Rex Dieter wrote:

> "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > mark kennett wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone else having this same
> > > problem?  One note when I installed the new kernel it didn't create a
> > > corresponding  "/boot/initrd-2.2.14-5.0.img" for the new kernel, so I
> > > commented this line out.  Since I am unfamiliar with the contents of the
> > > file, might that have some impact of my problem?  Thanks in advance.
>
> You haven't upgraded kernels before, have you?  (-:
>
> Installing a kernel doesn't create the initrd file for you.  You need to run
> mkinitrd by hand.  I'd recommend running,
>
> 1.  mkinitrd --image-version /boot/initrd 2.2.16-1
> (replace 2.2.16-1 with the exact version of your new kernel).
>
> 2.  Update /etc/lilo.conf to reference your new kernel/initrd image.
>
> 3.  Run lilo
>
> --
> Rex Dieter
> Computer System Administrator
> Mathematics and Statistics
> University of Nebraska Lincoln

Rex,
        Yes this was my first kernel upgrade and I have learned quite a bit
from the experience.  I upgraded my other all IDE machine with out problem, no
initrd required.  Little did I know the additional steps required for a system
with a SCSI adapter.  I should have looked into my problem a little more before
I posted.  The good thing is that very quickly several people responded with
the info I needed to get things going.  That is a tribute to the ability of the
internet to support Linux.  Thanks




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From: Jonathan McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Slim cases for rack-mounted solution
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:12:44 +0100


Derek Colley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am looking to tack together a couple of servers in a rack-mounted
> solution - because physical room is a factor I can't really go for full
> sized servers.

Psi-Domain. http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/

They were at the Linux Expo and have been most helpful with my queries.
And their prices are pretty good too.

J.

-- 
Web [                  Wake up, wake up dead man.                  ]
site: http:// [                                          ]       Made by
www.earth.li/~noodles/  [                      ]         HuggieTag 0.8.6

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Sherman)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: 2 UPS's, 1 monitor, and (n) CPU's possible?
Date: 21 Jun 2000 22:47:26 GMT

Is there an electrical problem with having multiple UPS's
powering different parts of an inter-connected system?

I have one small UPS currently, which is powerful enough to power
one system.  But now I have multiple CPU's with external drives,
etc, but still only one monitor.  So if I have one UPS on
the monitor and one CPU, while another UPS on the second CPU
and all the external drives (for both CPU's).

Will I blow something up?  Will the switching power supplies
in all the equipment even care?

Ok, yes, I could pay for a huge UPS.  But there is a problem.  A
UPS to power 1 system costs approx $120.  A UPS to power two
systems costs $500 (still looking around, though).  What's the
deal with that?

Anyway, thanx for any help...
-- 
     ____/     /     /     __  /    _  _/    ____/
    /         /     /     /   /      /     /          Chris Sherman
   /         ___   /        _/      /          /
 _____/   __/   __/   __/ _\    _____/   _____/           [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need driver for Aureal Quad 2500 audio card!
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:27:29 -0500

NikosKalogridis wrote:
> 
> try
> http://linux.aureal.com

Got the driver (and a lot of other info, too!). 

Thanks,

Craig

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From: "Dave Slutzkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hardware recommendations for athlon system
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:05:14 +1000

mirte wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>michael ottaway wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>     I have a Matrox G400 single head 32mb card and I use an EPOX board
with
>> my Athlon. I have used Epox for quiet some time and have never had a
problem
>> out of them
>
>Epox 7KXA? No problems at all with the sound-on-boardchip?

Good, I was wondering if this was a documented problem.  I've got a 7KXA
system, using Red Hat 6.2, which cannot work out the on-board sound (VIA
82Cxxx).  But I'm pretty sure if I plugged in a real sound card it'd be all
good.

Also, there seems to be another problem in the 7KXA, to do with the AGP
architecture, I don't remember it exactly, but a similar problem is
documented on the EPOX website under Win2000.  If anyone has a solution to
this, I'd appreciate it...

Thanks, Dave.



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From: Tony Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hardware recommendations for athlon system
Date: 21 Jun 2000 19:50:06 -0500

>> On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:05:14 +1000,
>> "Dave Slutzkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Good, I was wondering if this was a documented problem.
> I've got a 7KXA system, using Red Hat 6.2, which cannot
> work out the on-board sound (VIA 82Cxxx).  But I'm
> pretty sure if I plugged in a real sound card it'd be
> all good.

http://www.alsa-project.org/ appears to support this one.

hth
t
-- 
"Trying is the first step towards failure"
                                           Homer Simpson

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From: "bdl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Xpert 2000
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:50:12 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
wrote:
> "Jonathan M. Paley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>     I just bought an ATI Xpert 2000 (AGP) card to replace the card I'm
>> currently using.  I've tried to install it on my machine, and though it
>> seemed to work fine in VGA mode, when I tried to configure X,
>> Xconfigurator, after testing X, tells me there's an error in my
>> configuration.  Xconfigurator can never seem to find how much memory
>> the card has (though it finds the card type when I run it), and so I've
>> tried setting it to 8, 16 and 32 MB, neither of which work.  I've also
>> tried various resolution settings, though I don't think this has much
>> to do with anything.
> 
> What chipset is in this card?  If it's the Rage-128 chipset, you must
> have XFree86 version 3.3.6 or later.  The Mach64 driver is not
> compatible with the Rage-128 chipset.
> 
> -- David
Just for the hell of it, I looked up this card on the ati website, and yes
its  RAGE 128.
-- 
bdl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Linux 2.4.0-test1 #1 Sun Jun 18 22:38:47 PDT 2000 i686
5:27pm up 1:02, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.03, 0.08


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Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Subject: Re: Help on motherboard decision
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Scott Hemphill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Jun 2000 20:55:52 -0400

"Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>      Asus or Soyo.  Get a 700e or a 750e, but not a 733.  You'll
> have the best system with a BX board and a 100mhz FSB p3, ie, an
> 'e', but not an 'eb'.   Use at least pc100 cas2 ram (8ns, CL2)
> non ECC

Why non ECC?

Scott
-- 
Scott Hemphill  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This isn't flying.  This is falling, with style."  -- Buzz Lightyear

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