Linux-Hardware Digest #87, Volume #9 Sat, 2 Jan 99 13:14:31 EST
Contents:
Re: epson stylus 640 printer? ("Khalid M. Baheyeldin")
Re: banshee vs. TNT (Jani)
Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released? (NF Stevens)
Scanner and backup buying advice (Colin Brough)
Re: banshee vs. TNT (Jani)
Re: NE2000 PnP card problem (Jelle-Frodo)
Re: ATAPI CDROM FAIL (Sven Ullmann)
Re: Modelines ("Brachistochrone")
Struggle with Soundblaster PCI128 (Richard Crew)
Possible Way To Solve The Winmodem Problem (Mark S. Bilk)
Re: winmodems (James Donovan)
problems with S3 (Szieberth Denes)
Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but am
stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!! (DG)
Re: help: pcmcia NIC linksys etherfast 10/100 cardbus w cirrus pd6832?? (Markus
Draeger)
Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but am
stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!! (DG)
Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home but am
stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!! (DG)
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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 12:20:55 +0300
From: "Khalid M. Baheyeldin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: epson stylus 640 printer?
I bought the exact same Epson 640 printer, and haven't tried
it out yet.
Please let me know what happens (I have Red hat 5.1).
Andy Fraser wrote:
>
> I have an epson stylus 600 at work and I use magicfilter and
> ghostscript to print to it satisfactorily. I have tried the same set
> up to print to a new epson stylus 640 at home (and I've tried an
> upgrade to alladin ghostscript 5.50). It almost/sort of works, but I
> get erroneous underlining. I would appreciate pointers to the
> differences between the 600 and the 640, or pointers to an appropriate
> place to look (I have looked around the ghostscript web site and not
> found anything.)
>
> Andy Fraser
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Khalid M. Baheyeldin
Senior IT Consultant
Remove all the X characters in my e-mail address to reply
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jani)
Subject: Re: banshee vs. TNT
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 09:53:26 GMT
On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:55:46 +0200, "Oded Arbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I'm using a RivaTNT by ASUS with XFree 3.3.3 and it works fine. not
>as fast as in windows, but pretty fast. almost no delay when dragging around
>windows. as far as I know , RivaTNT takes banshee up one handedly,
>especially on an AGP port, which 3DFX still don't know what it is (as proven
>by various benchmarks - see tom's hardware - the only support banshee has
>for AGP is that it has a connector that fits an AGP port). as for Linux
>support, I don't have much experience, but I don't know how to setup a
>banshee card (although I heard it is possible) while setting RivaTNT using
>XF86Setup is almost as easy as setting it up in windows. since you probably
>not gonna do any hardcore 3D gaming in Linux, better get a card from a
>manufacturer who has some experience in 2D (banshee is the first chip from
>3DFX that does 2D).
>
> Oded
Well, I have tried them both on win98 now. According to 3DMark99 the
Banshee is faster in almost, ALMOST, every test, except game2 and
those 16MB and overrenderings. Or have I understood it somehow wrong?
It's true that it doesn't know how to use the AGP... I haven't tried
the Banshee yet on Linux, but atleast the TNT is working well, except
that I haven't gotten any type of 3D support yet working. I miss
Quake2 :) I wonder if I can get Banshee working ...
U gotta understand me, I'm quite new to Linux.
de Jani
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released?
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:47:09 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (erikc) wrote:
>
>Oh, really? What *do* they use? Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)
>
IIRC solaris.
Norman
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From: Colin Brough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Scanner and backup buying advice
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:08:59 +0000
I am planning to buy a scanner (and possibly in the future some form of
tape
backup). My system is a Dell XPS M233s (Pentium MMX 233MHz, 32Mb RAM,
6Gb
IDE disk, partitioned 2Gb for W95 & 4Gb for Linux, CD-ROM & ***** USR
WinModem).
I need to be able to run scanner and tape backup from both Linux &
Win95.
I've just had a bad experience and had to give away an old Logitech
ScanMan
256 (handheld greyscale) scanner (ISA bus card interface) which worked
fine
on my old 386, but refused to work under Win95 (couldn't find free IO
addresses - scanner could only use 280h, 2A0h, 330h & 340h, all of which
are "in use by an unknown device" under Win95!).
I reckon my options are as follows:
- some scanners and backup devices are supported under Linux in their
parallel port incarnations. Check which ones are supported, and cope
with
the inconvenience of multiple use of the parallel port.
- buy a SCSI card, and get the SCSI versions. Long term sounds more
promising, as whatever my next machine is I'll be able to get a SCSI
card for it... Got to then choose SCSI card! (See below)
- some peripherals are coming with USB connections. I can't find an
awful
lot about USB support and drivers, even in the latest 2.2.0-pre1
kernel
sources - what USB work is going on for Linux? (My Dell has USB
sockets.)
I'm pretty sure that the "best" option would be SCSI, but that bumps up
the
cost... maybe as much as UK pounds 100 for card + premium on
peripherals.
Then you've got to choose a SCSI card! (Does anyone know anything about
the
Adaptec AVA 2902, cheapest PCI SCSI card advertised in UK at present? I
can't find references to drivers for Linux etc...) I'd prefer to go PCI,
not
just for speed, but also because of the better PnP installation. Is that
feeling an accurate one?
Advice appreciated!!
Cheers
Colin Brough
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jani)
Subject: Re: banshee vs. TNT
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:43:42 GMT
On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 09:53:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jani)
wrote:
>Well, I have tried them both on win98 now. According to 3DMark99 the
>Banshee is faster in almost, ALMOST, every test, except game2 and
>those 16MB and over renderings. Or have I understood it somehow wrong?
Hmm... after testing again I have to swallow my words... Allthough
Banshee gets better 3DMarks, it has lower picture quality and goes
with quite the same results. One is better at something and the other
in something else...
de Jani
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jelle-Frodo)
Subject: Re: NE2000 PnP card problem
Date: 2 Jan 1999 13:30:49 GMT
On 02 Jan "John Winnard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in comp.os.linux.hardware:
[snip]
> wont accept the Kingston PnP network card in my P300
[snip]
> I can't get the SB AWE32 to work either
[snip]
> If anyone has any ideas of how I can get around these problems I'd be very
> grateful.
Take a look at the isapnp and pnpdump man pages.
J.F.
--
Jelle-Frodo Huisman
Wormerveer, The Netherlands
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Sven Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM FAIL
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:45:55 +0100
Still having the same problem, but with a Mitsumi FX800-CD-Rom-Drive!!
Sven
Antonis Giannopoulos schrieb:
> I seem to be having the same problem.
> I tried to install RH5.1 using the same model (Pioneer DR-A24X ATAPI)
> I run the installation program from the boot disk and when it tried to
> initialise the drive
> it just froze. When I replaced the drive with a different one (Hitachi
> 8x)
> everything went smoothly. After the installation was complete
> I put up the Pioneer again but Linux refused to mount it.
>
> Needless to say that the drive works fine under 95 or NT,
> that it is correclty jumpered & finally that both BIOS
> and Linux during boot recognise it correctly.
>
> Anyone else having or had problems with this model ?
> Are we to classify it as incompatible or am I missing something ?
> (how-to did help...)
>
> cheers!
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From: "Brachistochrone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modelines
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:10:44 -0500
I'd already tried the xvidtune, and got pretty much nowhere with the probs I
listed. Also, I don't have the virtual settings anywhere in my XF86Config
file, and I have only one resolution listed in the Server section.
I don't really understand how to compute the values for the Horizontal and
Vertical timings, so I just looked for a modeline for another resolution
that had the same dotclock value, and figured the ratio b'w the resolution
and H or V timing; I then applied the ratio to the resolution I was trying
to create. The values I came up with were sufficient to begin working in X
(I used xvidtune to adjust the distortion). That leaves me at the point I
described earlier.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Crew)
Subject: Struggle with Soundblaster PCI128
Date: 2 Jan 1999 14:06:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just got a Creative Soundblaster PCI128 and am trying to configure
the thing. Under the assumption that it should behave like a
SB16, I've tried the standard options in the Sound-HOWTO, but I get
a message like "dsp reset failed - device in use." What is going on here?
Is this card not compatible with a SB16? Is this particular one
broken?
config data: linux-2.2.0-pre1, glibc-2.0.7
CONFIG_SOUND=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS=m
# CONFIG_SOUND_PAS is not set
CONFIG_SOUND_SB=m
CONFIG_SOUND_ADLIB=m
(unset)
CONFIG_SOUND_VMIDI=m
(unset)
CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND=y
# CONFIG_ACI_MIXER is not set
CONFIG_AWE32_SYNTH=m
# CONFIG_AEDSP16 is not set
(everything else is unset)
Does anyone have any experience with these cards? Any help would be
appreciated. Please reply via email; my usenet access is *real* spotty these
days
Rich Crew
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Better to toss a stone at random, then a word.
-Porphyry
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Subject: Possible Way To Solve The Winmodem Problem
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:15:59 GMT
The DSP algorithms for 56 KBaud modems are probably state-
of-the-art, and would be extremely difficult to reproduce.
It would be far beyond the work of writing a normal driver.
However, if the Winmodem industry is anything like the
accelerated super VGA chip industry, the manufacturers of
the modem DSP chips may be providing generic software and
electrical schematics to the modem manufacturers, so that
the latter don't have to acquire the very special expertise
themselves, at substantial cost in both money and time.
The chip companies may be willing to provide a few Linux
driver writers with the same information under a non-
disclosure agreement. If the nature of the Linux kernel
module system permits it to use binaries that are specific
only to the particular type of CPU (e.g., pentium), and
don't have to be compiled for each install or kernel build,
then these Linux programmers could distribute binary modules
that wouldn't violate the NDA.
A complication might arise if the generic chip software is
supplied in the form of object binaries, instead of sources,
by the chip manufacturers, in order to protect their
investment. It would be necessary to get them to produce
Linux object files, which might be done by visiting their
site with a Linux portable and software to translate from
Intel assembler source to GNU assembler source. After the
source is translated, assembled into object files, and
written to floppy, one might have to format the hard drive
to satisfy them that their source code was not walking out.
This all would have to be repeated a number of times before
working object modules were obtained, but (after the initial
permission) it wouldn't have to involve the chip company's
higher-ups, only one engineer there who's interested in
Linux (or at least who's assigned to work on the project
for a total of a week or so).
The only remaining problem would be any differences from,
or parameterizations of (e.g., address numbers), the generic
software and schematics that are unique to particular manu-
facturers' Winmodems. The modem manufacturers might be
willing to supply *this* information, since it would not
have the large economic value that the DSP algorithms do.
(They might not be *able* to provide the algorithms anyhow,
if they got them from the chip manufacturer under a NDA.)
Even if a modem manufacturer is not willing to supply this
particular (and fairly simple) information, it may be pos-
sible to reverse engineer it, given the generic software and
schematics, by, e.g., writing a test program to try all the
possible port numbers.
There are obviously a lot of assumptions and speculation
involved in the scenario presented here, but it may be
worthwhile to check it out. (Not by me -- I don't have
Linux yet, and my modem is external.) Besides the economic
disincentive to users of having to buy a new modem in order
to use Linux (especially costly for owners of portables),
someone pointed out that the 153 KBaud maximum rate of the
serial port is inadequate to carry the data stream at full
modem compression. So those Linux users who want the fastest
possible gear might even *want* to go out and buy a Winmodem
if drivers were available. This could be pointed out to
the chip and modem manufacturers as an additional incentive
for them for them to cooperate (beyond the incentive of not
having new computer buyers *reject* their products in order
to be able to use Linux).
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From: James Donovan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.unix,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,at.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: winmodems
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 09:20:24 -0500
Dan Nguyen wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Etienne Demers-Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Has a emulator been created in order to run winmodems under linux ?
> Would you like to write one for everyone who was stupid, or just plain
> unlucky enough to get one.
>
> --
> ���������� Dan Nguyen����������� | There is only one happiness in
> ������� [EMAIL PROTECTED]�������� |�� life, to love and be loved.
> http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 |������������������ -George Sand
� The stupid people are the ones who don't ask questions or the ones
who have nothing else to do but flame others for asking a question.
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From: Szieberth Denes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems with S3
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 17:01:48 +0100
Hi,
I have a dual pII motherboard working on 100Mhz
with a S3 DX PCI card the X-windows runs correct, but when I shut it
down the text mode display is corrupt, all the characters have missing
bits...
Could anyone tell me what the problem is?
dino
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DG)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home
but am stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:13:09 GMT
On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:21:22 -0500, "L. Dwayne Sudduth"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>
>> LISTEN HERE, SH**FACE !!! I AM POSTING A PROBLEM TO WHICH I WANT A
>> SOLUTION, NOT IRRELEVANT BULLSH** !!! GOD KNOWS WHEN YOU'LL GET THAT
>> THROUGH YOUR MF BRAIN !!! BESIDES, NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU, PAYING
>> FOR EVERY THING !!! I'M SURE THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE
>> BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY !!! I READ YOUR ENTIRE SH**
>> POST-REPLY BY THE WAY AND ALL YOU GIVE IS NOTHING BUT IRRELEVANT
>> BULLSH** !!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO KEEP TELLING A DUMBF*** LIKE
>> YOU THAT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN OTHER UNIX/LINUX OPERATING SYSTEMS !!!
>> SINCE NOTHING GETS THROUGH YOUR HEAD, HERE'S MY ADVICE TO YOU: EAT MUD
>> !!!
>
>Dear Sir:
> I regret to inform you that my 3 year old has better behaviour and manners than
>you do.
>When I first started experimenting with UNIX, the typical response to an insolent,
>loud-mouthed individual such as yourself would have been RTFM. Or, in other words
>(since you
>probably don't understand the acronym) Read The F****** Manual.
>
>The alternative is to ask @home network for assistance. Or, follow the advice given
>by sane
>individuals in this newsgroup. such as purchasing Red Hat from such places as
>CheapBytes.com.
>CD-ROM.com, etc.
>
>Dark Nemesis
>
You dumb f***. The @home service does not support operating systems
other than Win95/98. I read the f****** manual but no help. Your
f****** 3-yr old kid is mentally retarded just like you you f******
pr***. I don't have to pay sh** if I don't want to. Now get the f***
outta here !!! Somebody oughtta f****** pulvarize you.
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From: Markus Draeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help: pcmcia NIC linksys etherfast 10/100 cardbus w cirrus pd6832??
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 16:40:25 +0000
yougotit wrote:
Sorry everyone, i had my email identity misconfigured when I sent that
posting out, so here is a corrected version. Please answer here or by email
to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Markus
> Hi wizards,
>
> I am about to run screaming around the house... Has anyone ever
> successfully set up a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Cardbus network card on a
> notebook with a Cirrus PD6832 cardbus controller?? If so, PLEASE tell me
> your secrets!
>
> I am currently trying this with a 2.0.36-1 kernel, pcmcia card services
> 3.0.6, no special options. My modem card is recognized and configured
> without any trouble while the network card keeps showing up as an
> anonymous memory device. I have compiled the tulip.c driver module as
> described on the Linksys web site, but this is not (yet) the problem
> since this module does not get started so far (because the card is not
> recognized).
>
> The debugging tools which come with pcmcia-cs-3.0.6 also do not help
> much. The CIS dump shows nothing what so ever (no information available)
> - so I get the impression that there is some fundamental problem with
> this card / card bus controller combo..?
>
> Under Windows 98 the card works just fine, so the HW is ok.
>
> Any help highly appreciated,
>
> Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DG)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home
but am stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:29:49 GMT
Here's both your email addresses:
"If you would, you may email me either at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:21:22 -0500, "L. Dwayne Sudduth"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>
>> LISTEN HERE, SH**FACE !!! I AM POSTING A PROBLEM TO WHICH I WANT A
>> SOLUTION, NOT IRRELEVANT BULLSH** !!! GOD KNOWS WHEN YOU'LL GET THAT
>> THROUGH YOUR MF BRAIN !!! BESIDES, NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU, PAYING
>> FOR EVERY THING !!! I'M SURE THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE
>> BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY !!! I READ YOUR ENTIRE SH**
>> POST-REPLY BY THE WAY AND ALL YOU GIVE IS NOTHING BUT IRRELEVANT
>> BULLSH** !!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO KEEP TELLING A DUMBF*** LIKE
>> YOU THAT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN OTHER UNIX/LINUX OPERATING SYSTEMS !!!
>> SINCE NOTHING GETS THROUGH YOUR HEAD, HERE'S MY ADVICE TO YOU: EAT MUD
>> !!!
>
>Dear Sir:
> I regret to inform you that my 3 year old has better behaviour and manners than
>you do.
>When I first started experimenting with UNIX, the typical response to an insolent,
>loud-mouthed individual such as yourself would have been RTFM. Or, in other words
>(since you
>probably don't understand the acronym) Read The F****** Manual.
>
>The alternative is to ask @home network for assistance. Or, follow the advice given
>by sane
>individuals in this newsgroup. such as purchasing Red Hat from such places as
>CheapBytes.com.
>CD-ROM.com, etc.
>
>Dark Nemesis
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DG)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Want to do direct install of Redhat 5.2 via FTP since I have Cox@home
but am stuck in the DUNGEONS OF DOOM !!! SO HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP !!!
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 17:33:36 GMT
AH SHUT YOUR FARTFACE UP !!! YOU AIN'T GOT NO RIGHT TO TELL ME HOW TO
GROW UP SO STUFF A PIE IN YOUR FACE, POOPKNOCKER !!!
On 2 Jan 1999 16:51:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:13:09 GMT, DG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:21:22 -0500, "L. Dwayne Sudduth"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> LISTEN HERE, SH**FACE !!! I AM POSTING A PROBLEM TO WHICH I WANT A
>>>> SOLUTION, NOT IRRELEVANT BULLSH** !!! GOD KNOWS WHEN YOU'LL GET THAT
>>>> THROUGH YOUR MF BRAIN !!! BESIDES, NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU, PAYING
>>>> FOR EVERY THING !!! I'M SURE THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE
>>>> BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY !!! I READ YOUR ENTIRE SH**
>>>> POST-REPLY BY THE WAY AND ALL YOU GIVE IS NOTHING BUT IRRELEVANT
>>>> BULLSH** !!! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO KEEP TELLING A DUMBF*** LIKE
>>>> YOU THAT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN OTHER UNIX/LINUX OPERATING SYSTEMS !!!
>>>> SINCE NOTHING GETS THROUGH YOUR HEAD, HERE'S MY ADVICE TO YOU: EAT MUD
>>>> !!!
>>>
>
>Behave, learn some manners and most importantly grow up. With this kind of
>attitude few people are likely to "waste" their time helping a "pissed-off"
>teenager like yourself. You, like most "pissed-off" "lamers" are of no use
>to Linux and never will be since you lack skills, both social and
>technical, and you seem to feel like the rest of Linux'ers owe you something.
>
>As a sign of good spirit take this advice; download the RH stuff to your hd
>and then install from the hard drive. If you are uncapabble of doing so then
>order a cd from CheapBytes and leave everyone here alone. Actually if you
>already have problems (before install) you should quit now. I don't want to
>hear you infentile whining later.
>
>>>Dear Sir:
>>> I regret to inform you that my 3 year old has better behaviour and manners than
>you do.
>>>When I first started experimenting with UNIX, the typical response to an insolent,
>>>loud-mouthed individual such as yourself would have been RTFM. Or, in other words
>(since you
>>>probably don't understand the acronym) Read The F****** Manual.
>>>
>>>The alternative is to ask @home network for assistance. Or, follow the advice given
>by sane
>>>individuals in this newsgroup. such as purchasing Red Hat from such places as
>CheapBytes.com.
>>>CD-ROM.com, etc.
>>>
>>>Dark Nemesis
>>>
>>
>>You dumb f***. The @home service does not support operating systems
>>other than Win95/98. I read the f****** manual but no help. Your
>>f****** 3-yr old kid is mentally retarded just like you you f******
>>pr***. I don't have to pay sh** if I don't want to. Now get the f***
>>outta here !!! Somebody oughtta f****** pulvarize you.
>
>As stated previously, GROW UP, FAST!
>
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