Linux-Hardware Digest #89, Volume #13 Thu, 22 Jun 00 09:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Mandrake 7.1 and ide-tape read problem. . . (Norvell Spearman)
Mandrake 7.1 and ide tape read problem (Norvell Spearman)
Re: External Modem`s (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? (C Sanjayan Rosenmund)
Re: Water cooling system (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Water cooling system (Lew Pitcher)
Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: Water cooling system (Patrick Joly)
Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? (Daniel Haude)
Re: Help on motherboard decision (Steve Martin)
Re: RAM > 64 Mb (Adam Skeggs)
Re: RAM > 64 Mb (Rune Enggaard Jensen)
Where can found GBit Ethernet Card and device driver? ("DIO")
Scanner Mustek 1200 SP unter Linux ("Maier Michaela")
Re: Help on motherboard decision ("Derek Robinson")
Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? (Kevin Croxen)
Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? (J Bland)
Re: 2 UPS's, 1 monitor, and (n) CPU's possible? (aflinsch)
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From: Norvell Spearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Mandrake 7.1 and ide-tape read problem. . .
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:07:05 -0500
Before wiping out my Linux-Mandrake 7.0 installation to do a fresh
install of 7.1, I backed up my important data to my 8GB HP Colorado
internal IDE tape drive. I backed up with `tar czvpf /dev/ht0 /etc
/home /root' and tested the backup with `tar xzvpf /dev/ht0' (in a
directory other than /). The backup and restore returned no errors
whatsoever. When I've backed up before with taper and Mandrake 7.0, my
tape drive worked flawlessly then as well.
Anyway, after wiping out 7.0 and installing 7.1, I can write to my tape,
but not read from it. I'll include the error messages below. I've
tried backing up and restoring a few files to/from /dev/fd0 with no
problems, so I guess it's safe to say the problem is not with tar or
gzip.
I've already tried the latest kernel from the cooker (2.2.16-4mdk) with
no success.
When I wiped out 7.1 and reinstalled 7.0, my tape drive worked perfectly
again.
I'd greatly appreciate any help with this.
---Norvell Spearman
===================================================================
[root@localhost blah]# tar xzvpf /dev/ht0
tar (grandchild): /dev/ht0: Cannot read: Input/output error
tar (grandchild): At beginning of tape, quitting now
tar (grandchild): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[root@localhost blah]# tar xzvpf /dev/nht0
tar (grandchild): /dev/nht0: Cannot read: Input/output error
tar (grandchild): At beginning of tape, quitting now
tar (grandchild): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
===================================================================
Below is from /var/log/messages:
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd <-> ht0: HP COLORADO 8GB
rev 2.05
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd: overriding
capabilities->speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd: overriding
capabilities->max_speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd <-> ht0: 650KBps,
16*32kB buffer, 6336kB pipeline, 100ms tDSC
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 8, key
= 5, asc = 2c, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 8, key
= 5, asc = 2c, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
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From: Norvell Spearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Mandrake 7.1 and ide tape read problem
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:31:42 -0500
Sorry if this is the second time this message shows up; I've been having
problems with my news server.
Before wiping out my Linux-Mandrake 7.0 installation to do a fresh
install of 7.1, I backed up my important data to my 8GB HP Colorado
internal IDE tape drive. I backed up with `tar czvpf /dev/ht0 /etc
/home /root' and tested the backup with `tar xzvpf /dev/ht0' (in a
directory other than /). The backup and restore returned no errors
whatsoever. When I've backed up before with taper and Mandrake 7.0, my
tape drive worked flawlessly then as well.
Anyway, after wiping out 7.0 and installing 7.1, I can write to my tape,
but not read from it. I'll include the error messages below. I've
tried backing up and restoring a few files to/from /dev/fd0 with no
problems, so I guess it's safe to say the problem is not with tar or
gzip.
I've already tried the latest kernel from the cooker (2.2.16-4mdk) with
no success.
When I wiped out 7.1 and reinstalled 7.0, my tape drive worked perfectly
again.
I'd greatly appreciate any help with this.
---Norvell Spearman
===================================================================
[root@localhost blah]# tar xzvpf /dev/ht0
tar (grandchild): /dev/ht0: Cannot read: Input/output error
tar (grandchild): At beginning of tape, quitting now
tar (grandchild): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[root@localhost blah]# tar xzvpf /dev/nht0
tar (grandchild): /dev/nht0: Cannot read: Input/output error
tar (grandchild): At beginning of tape, quitting now
tar (grandchild): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
===================================================================
Below is from /var/log/messages:
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd <-> ht0: HP COLORADO 8GB
rev 2.05
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd: overriding
capabilities->speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd: overriding
capabilities->max_speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: hdd <-> ht0: 650KBps,
16*32kB buffer, 6336kB pipeline, 100ms tDSC
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 8, key
= 5, asc = 2c, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:18 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key
= 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 8, key
= 5, asc = 2c, ascq = 0
Jun 15 18:55:24 localhost kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key
= 5, asc = 20, ascq = 0
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: External Modem`s
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 05:18:48 GMT
Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The Motorola L7089 cellphone (using the data cable) is an external winmodem.
>>
>> (oddly enough, when used over infrared it's a hardware modem, though with
>> fewer features)
>But I take it that it's not a serial port modem?
It is. You do need a specific adapter cable though, which usually is
rather expensive. Used with the cable, it offers a lot of nice
functions - IF you do run Win9x, that is. Most of the stuff is only
available using their prorietary driver software.
>I'd like to know of a winmodem that operates entirely on a serial
>connection.
Quite a number of data-capable mobile phones are; and even back in the
days of the 14.4 modems there was stuff like RIP that was basically
using the same concept: Doing the compression stuff in software.
Michael
--
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: C Sanjayan Rosenmund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:22:37 -0700
Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> Although, I'm not going to dispute you that Debian and Slack have a lot
> of merit on an older/smaller machine. I'm planning on doing a Debian
> install on one of the aforementioned machines when the next version is
> "stable" released. Hopefully soon.
>
Debian (Potato) is available as a downloadable iso image (used to burn
CDs) for testing. Potato is *quite* stable and the CDs should work
fine. Otherwise, you can download the floppies (9 of them) and do a
network install. Why wait, upgrade to Debian *now*
<grin>
--
Sanjay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows has detected that a gnat has farted near your computer.
Press any key to reboot.
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:28:40 -0400
"Prasanth A. Kumar" wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Kludge-method for cooling monitor:
> >
> > 1) acquire a small refrigerator (i.e. "beer fridge")
> > 2) cut a video-tube-sized opening in the door
> > 3) fit monitor components within the cooling cavity, placing
> > video-tube such that it mounts cleenly in the opening in the
> > fridge door.
> > 4) close fridge door
> > 5) plug in fridge
> > 6) connect monitor
> > 7) commence use of monitor
> >
> > ;-)
> <snip>
>
> Of course, that doesn't help at all with keeping the room cool since a
> refrigerator will only pump heat from the inside(the monitor) to the
> outside(the room) with additional heat in the process! I think the
> original question in the this thread was how to keep the room cool.
OK, so I assumed that the kludgee would extend the cooling tubes
outside of the building. <g>
Here's a revised kludge...
1) acquire a small refrigerator (i.e. "beer fridge")
2) cut a video-tube-sized opening in the door
3) fit monitor components within the cooling cavity, placing
video-tube such that it mounts cleenly in the opening in the
fridge door.
4) close fridge door
5) mount fridge into exterior window, with cooling tubes exposed
to the outside and video monitor facing inside
6) plug in fridge
7) connect monitor to computer
8) commence use of monitor
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:32:50 -0400
Pat Crean wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's a wonderful kludge method for cooling the monitor ---- but,
> guess what? You've just INCREASED the overall heat load in the room, unless
> you've also figured out some way to get the refrigerator heat exchanger
> outside (perhaps a hole in an outside wall in which said refrigerator is
> mounted?)
Ahhhh, but the objective was to cool the _monitor_. No one said
anything about cooling the room too. <g>
However, I've altered the kludge to accomodate this new requirement
(see other post). Of course, you will (as you suggested) need a big
hole through an outside wall <vbg>.
BTW, there was an article at an overclocker's site that documented an
exercise in cooling an overclocked motherboard in a refrigerator
freezer. They got some phenominal speed out of the CPU before it
expired of heat-death.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:39:05 -0700
Bummer, a newbie would be confused with all their distro preferences.
I'll vote for Turbo Linux server 6.0 or workstation 6.0.2 because it has
2.2.14 kernel and all GUI install.
Richard Petty wrote:
> Any of them, really.
>
> I just installed TurboLinux (CD came free with a NIC) on a 486 that I'm
> going to route and web serve with, too, and the "server" style install
> took 170-megabytes.
>
> --Richard
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I'm setting up two 486 linux systems, one will be a small web sever,
> >firewall, and ip masq.
> >
> >The other will be a machine to write perl programs on.
> >
> >I have two 250 meg drives, I don't plan to install X, so which distro
> >is out there that will allow me to do what i want to do on the 486's
> >???
>
> --
> Spam deterent: Remove the "BOGUS" part for a correct address.
------------------------------
From: Patrick Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Water cooling system
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:13:00 +0200
Lew Pitcher wrote:
[ ... ]
> Kludge-method for cooling monitor:
>
> 1) acquire a small refrigerator (i.e. "beer fridge")
> 2) cut a video-tube-sized opening in the door
Here is the point that make me disagree with this method.
Because cutting a hole in the refrigerator will allow him
to know if the little ligth in the fridge turns off or not when
the door is shut.
And I am not sure that even a linux-hacker conscience is
ready to handle such revelation about one of our univers deepest
secret enigma ...
Patrick JOLY
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Haude)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: 22 Jun 2000 09:39:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:36:26 -0400,
peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in Msg. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| I'm setting up two 486 linux systems, one will be a small web sever,
| firewall, and ip masq.
|
| The other will be a machine to write perl programs on.
|
| I have two 250 meg drives, I don't plan to install X, so which distro
| is out there that will allow me to do what i want to do on the 486's
| ???
I just installed a Debian system (including X with fvwm2) on a 486DX/100
with 8MB RAM without problems. I mean, the installation was without
problems, *using* the system became only feasible after installing at
least 8MB of additional RAM.
There isn't really much of a difference between distributions except in
what the distributors think what should be standard on a linux box. Debian
and Slackware think "essentially nothing", and SuSe thinks "a full-blown
KDE system with 256 screensavers". I don't know any other distros.
So you _can_ install a minimal Linux with any of those, only it requires
more effort and de-selection of features with "big" distros.
The Debian "dselect" and "apt-get" package management system is a
monumental pain in the ass *until* you've got it figured out. Then it
works like a dream. I'm partial to Debian mainly because it has a very
strict and concise idea of where to store things. All configuration goes
in /etc, so the "personality" of your system is easily backed-up.
--Daniel
--
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy
way to factor large prime numbers." -- Bill Gates, "The Road Ahead"
------------------------------
From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Subject: Re: Help on motherboard decision
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 06:58:38 -0400
> Almost all of the ASUS boarsd have received high marks at Linux Hardware
> Database:
My P2B here runs everything I throw at it, including RH6.0, WinNT4,
Win95,
FreeBSD 4.0, and various apps under each.
In the same vein as this thread, anyone have any experience with ASUS
and
SMP? I'm also considering a mobo upgrade to a dual-proc board, and have
no clue as to who to avoid. ASUS any good here too?
------------------------------
From: Adam Skeggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAM > 64 Mb
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:30:42 +1000
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Michael Spanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I recently installed RedHat 6+ on my PC and all went smooth except for
> : one thing. My machine has 256 Mb of RAM and Linux seems to think I only
> : have 64 Mb. Is this a common problem? How can I get Linux to see all
>
> It's a common non-problem, and you'd find out by reading the common
> FAQ.
>
> : my RAM?
>
> May I be the first to commend you to the BootPrompt HOWTO, the Lilo
> docs, and your distro's fine manual. There and elsewhere you will find
> how to specify the amount of memory you have to the kernel at boot time.
> Just grep for mem=. You'll find that adding
> append = "mem=255M"
> to lilo.conf and rerunning lilo should get you there.
>
> Peter
I am having similar troubles.
I followed the doco as far as I can see. Here is my /etc/lilo.conf but it
still boots with only 64Meg (I have 128Meg of RAM installed).
boot=/dev/hdd1
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
read-only
root=/dev/hdd7
append="mem=128m"
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
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From: Rune Enggaard Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAM > 64 Mb
Date: 22 Jun 2000 13:55:37 +0200
Adam Skeggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
> label=linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
> read-only
> root=/dev/hdd7
> append="mem=128m"
>
Are LILO and the kernel case sensitive with regards to arguments? If it
is, then maybe the last of these lines could be the reason. Try with a
capital M after 128.
--
Rune Enggaard Jensen | Peter's Placebo (aka "The Microsoft Way"):
Dept. of Math. & Comp. Science | An ounce of image is worth
SDU, Odense University, Denmark | a pound of performance.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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From: "DIO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where can found GBit Ethernet Card and device driver?
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:02:39 +0800
Hi Everybody,
My problem I have to setup Gbit network in office and I have to change all
the server NIC from 10/100 Fast Ethernet with UTP port to 100/1000 Ethernet
with UTP port. But I have no idea which vendor have this "UTP" 100/1000
Ethernet Card and also the NIC driver for BSD. Can anyone so kind to help me
to solve this problem?
Thousand of thank you.
DIO
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From: "Maier Michaela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Scanner Mustek 1200 SP unter Linux
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:29:36 +0200
Hallo,
ich bin gerade im Begriff mir ein Linuxsystem aufzubauen und m�chte
nat�rlich
meinen o. g. Scanner auch weiterhin benutzen k�nnen.
Leider traten folgende Probleme bei dem Einbindungsversuch auf:
- Der Scanner wurde nicht als SCSI-Ger�t erkannt
Welche Schritte sind nun erforderlich, damit ich meinen Scanner 1200 SP auch
unter Linux betreiben kann?
Vielen Dank schon im Voraus f�r Eure Hilfe.
Maier Michaela
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From: "Derek Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Subject: Re: Help on motherboard decision
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:05:48 +0100
Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Almost all of the ASUS boarsd have received high marks at Linux Hardware
> > Database:
>
> My P2B here runs everything I throw at it, including RH6.0, WinNT4,
> Win95,
> FreeBSD 4.0, and various apps under each.
>
> In the same vein as this thread, anyone have any experience with ASUS
> and
> SMP? I'm also considering a mobo upgrade to a dual-proc board, and have
> no clue as to who to avoid. ASUS any good here too?
I have a Supermicro dual mb...absolutely rock solid with w2k and twin
P111-600's. Definitely worth a look.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: 22 Jun 2000 12:35:44 GMT
The only knock against Suse in this environment is that one has
to work very hard to keep the disk footprint down with this
distro. Yast1 was not really written for less-than-full, small
hard disk installs, and I've found it very difficult to trim even
non-X (but still network capable) installs of 6.2 or 6.3 down below
300 Megs. Slack (which was the ur-father of the Suse distro
anyway) is a much easier-to-handle choice in this type of
environment.
--Kevin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
>DeAnn Iwan wrote:
>>
>> peter wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm setting up two 486 linux systems, one will be a small web sever,
>> > firewall, and ip masq.
>> >
>> > The other will be a machine to write perl programs on.
>> >
>> > I have two 250 meg drives, I don't plan to install X, so which distro
>> > is out there that will allow me to do what i want to do on the 486's
>> > ???
>> >
>>
>> Any major distribution will probably work. Note that how much
>> memory you have and whether or not you have a CDROM drive enter into
>> play here. The latest RH, SUSE, and other graphical interfaces like
>> lots of RAM (RH 6.2 will complain about 32 MB RAM, but will install,
>> etc.). I have been unable to get SUSE 6.1 or 6.4 to do an NFS install
>> from machines even with 32 MB RAM; they seem to get caught thrashing
>> between trying to load appriate parts of YAST, the install packages and
>> so forth and eventually freeze up. After 2 weeks, I've given up. (I
>> had done NFS installs with RH 5.0 very smoothly. I suspect it has to do
>> with distros taking advantage of the new kernels ability to preload one
>> kernel/OS and then finalize with another. If they are finalizing across
>> NFS and do not have enough local RAM/storage, then they tangle.)
>>
>> Unless you have lots of RAM and a local cdrom, moving to Debian or
>> Slackware can be good. Both distributions allow you to install a small
>> Linux system from around a dozen floppies. You can then download the
>> rest of what you want via ftp, NFS, etc.
>
>
>SuSE up to version 6.3 will install over NFS on machines with as little
>as 8 MB of RAM. I know, I've got two at home set up that way. You just
>have to pass the lilo line:
>manual vga=normal
>and set it up via the old YAST1 method. Not too painful, and it allows
>you a lot more options.
>
>Although, I'm not going to dispute you that Debian and Slack have a lot
>of merit on an older/smaller machine. I'm planning on doing a Debian
>install on one of the aforementioned machines when the next version is
>"stable" released. Hopefully soon.
>
>Nathaniel Jay Lee
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: 22 Jun 2000 12:27:21 GMT
>There isn't really much of a difference between distributions except in
>what the distributors think what should be standard on a linux box. Debian
>and Slackware think "essentially nothing", and SuSe thinks "a full-blown
>KDE system with 256 screensavers". I don't know any other distros.
The minimum install for SuSE 6.4 is ~80MB. Which would easily fit onto the
harddrive, and that's with Perl iirc.
Most of the distros will happily install in a small space, just depends on
how small you define 'small' as and how much free space you want left to
play with.
Frinky
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: 2 UPS's, 1 monitor, and (n) CPU's possible?
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:51:24 -0500
Chris Sherman wrote:
>
> Is there an electrical problem with having multiple UPS's
> powering different parts of an inter-connected system?
>
> I have one small UPS currently, which is powerful enough to power
> one system. But now I have multiple CPU's with external drives,
> etc, but still only one monitor. So if I have one UPS on
> the monitor and one CPU, while another UPS on the second CPU
> and all the external drives (for both CPU's).
>
> Will I blow something up? Will the switching power supplies
> in all the equipment even care?
I can't see why this would not work if you were only using the UPS to
keep the system up long enough to power down cleanly. Since this could
be automated, you could also eliminate the monitor from the equation,
providing a bit longer of a cushion time till powerdown.
If you were thinking of using this setup to keep the systems up during
an extended power outage, there could be the problem of one UPS
running out of "juice" before the other. Have you considered placing
each system (cpu & drives) on seperate UPS?
>
> Ok, yes, I could pay for a huge UPS. But there is a problem. A
> UPS to power 1 system costs approx $120. A UPS to power two
> systems costs $500 (still looking around, though). What's the
> deal with that?
>
Same reason a 12V car battery costs more than a 12V lantern battery.
More amperage = more dollars. Two or even three batteries of lesser
amperage often cost less than a single large battery. The electronics
inside the UPS are a minor fraction of the cost of manufacturing the
device.
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