Linux-Hardware Digest #313, Volume #13 Fri, 28 Jul 00 15:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: [Help] LILO doesn't boot from SCSI disk (Andrey Vlasov)
Re: Linux and video card (Steve Fosdick)
Elsa Erasor III pro VIVO ("Adrian")
Re: Using ancient PC as a tty (Steve Fosdick)
Re: APC UPS & Powerchute (Steve Fosdick)
Re: Using ancient PC as a tty (Richard D. McRoberts)
Re: Brother HL-1240 (Bruce Forsberg)
Help Me! Debian install may have erased compaq's bios partition
Re: If Linux, which? If not Linux, what? NOT flame-bait! (Wouter Coene)
Re: need help with soun card config (Wutmewurry)
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Help] LILO doesn't boot from SCSI disk
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:16:17 -0700
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Hi Jose,
I got this kind problem when I switch IDE disks and normaly it related to names of
devices.
I suggest you boot from floppy and try mount /boot partition. Just check that name
of device
is correct. If not edit lilo.conf to reflect new device name and run lilo itself
to make update
boot loader. Problem normaly consist in fact that device changed name and in
bootloader it
point to another disk where you do not have any kernel - if you have disk there at
all.
But I little confused by fact that you have only one SCSI disk and disconnection
of IDE disk
should not affect SCSI drive name. But anyway I recommend to try load from floppy
and check
what is there. By the way did you SCSI controller configured to boot from this
disk? Some
basic controllers do not support boot from SCSI disks but yours I believe should
do that - I never
had this controller and can not help with details how configure the controller.
Andrey
Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez wrote:
> Hi all,
> I cannot get LILO booting from an SCSI disk. Can you give me some
> hints?
>
> This is the situation. I've just installed Linux Red Hat 6.2 on a Dual
> Pentium III machine equipped with:
> Mainboard: SUPERMICRO, SUPER P6DBE
> SCSI controller: Adaptec SCSI Card 29160
> SCSI disk: Seagate ST318436LW (17.5G)
> IDE disk: Seagate STS320430A (20GB)
>
> The IDE disk is only temporally installed, and it is going to be used
> only to hold data, no system files. All the system is installed on the
> SCSI disk. This is the partition table (generated with disk druid):
> --------------------
> Disk /dev/sda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2233 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
> /dev/sda2 14 2233 17832150 5 Extended
> /dev/sda5 14 906 7172991 83 Linux
> /dev/sda6 907 1548 5156833+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda7 1549 1880 2666758+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda8 1881 2174 2361523+ 83 Linux
> /dev/sda9 2175 2213 313236 82 Linux swap
> /dev/sda10 2214 2233 160618+ 83
> Linux --------------------
>
> and this an excerpt from /etc/fstab:
> --------------------
> /dev/sda10 / ext2 defaults
> 1 1
> /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda5 /home ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda6 /usr ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda7 /usr/local ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda8 /var ext2 defaults
> 1 2
> /dev/sda9 swap swap defaults
> 0 0
> --------------------
> So the /boot partition is (/dev/sda1) located at very beginning of the
> disk.
>
> The overall installation was straightforward. Only the LILO
> installation issued a warning:
> "Warning: /dev/sda1 is not on the first disk"
>
> But then, before booting again I changed the BIOS booting sequence
> setting SCSI on the first place and IDE on the second. After saving
> this, the booting is restarted. The BIOS displays:
> "Searching for Boot Record from SCSI..OK"
> And then only appears:
> "LI"
> and it gets frozen.
> According to LILO's User's Guide (pag. 44):
> "LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
> loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a
> geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map
> installer."
> Of course, I haven't moved /boob/boot.b. Since the disk is a large one,
> I used the "linear" global option in lilo.conf, but no luck. I've also
> tried without it, with the same lack of success.
>
> If I install LILO on the IDE disk, it works all right, but I don't like
> this solution because of the temporal condition of the disk.
>
> LILO's version is 21.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any help to get the SCSI disk booting
> properly.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Cheers!
>
> Jos� Manuel
>
>
> --
> Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dpto. de Ciencias de la Computacion e Inteligencia Artificial
> E.T.S. Ingenieria Informatica
> Universidad de Granada Tel. +34 - 958 - 24 61 43
> 18071 - GRANADA (Spain) Fax: +34 - 958 - 24 33 17
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Hi Jose,
<p>I got this kind problem when I switch IDE disks and normaly it
related to names of devices.
<br>I suggest you boot from floppy and try mount /boot partition.
Just check that name of device
<br>is correct. If not edit lilo.conf to reflect new device name and run
lilo itself to make update
<br>boot loader. Problem normaly consist in fact that device changed name
and in bootloader it
<br>point to another disk where you do not have any kernel - if you have
disk there at all.
<br>But I little confused by fact that you have only one SCSI disk
and disconnection of IDE disk
<br>should not affect SCSI drive name. But anyway I recommend to try
load from floppy and check
<br>what is there. By the way did you SCSI controller configured
to boot from this disk? Some
<br>basic controllers do not support boot from SCSI disks but yours I believe
should do that - I never
<br>had this controller and can not help with details how configure the
controller.
<p>Andrey
<p>Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi all,
<br> I cannot get LILO booting
from an SCSI disk. Can you give me some
<br>hints?
<p> This is the situation. I've
just installed Linux Red Hat 6.2 on a Dual
<br>Pentium III machine equipped with:
<br> Mainboard: SUPERMICRO, SUPER
P6DBE
<br> SCSI controller: Adaptec
SCSI Card 29160
<br> SCSI disk: Seagate ST318436LW
(17.5G)
<br> IDE disk: Seagate STS320430A
(20GB)
<p> The IDE disk is only temporally
installed, and it is going to be used
<br>only to hold data, no system files. All the system is installed on
the
<br>SCSI disk. This is the partition table (generated with disk druid):
<br>--------------------
<br>Disk /dev/sda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2233 cylinders
<br>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
<p> Device Boot Start
End Blocks Id System
<br>/dev/sda1 *
1 13 104391
83 Linux
<br>/dev/sda2
14 2233 17832150
5 Extended
<br>/dev/sda5
14 906 7172991
83 Linux
<br>/dev/sda6
907 1548 5156833+ 83
Linux
<br>/dev/sda7
1549
1880 2666758+ 83 Linux
<br>/dev/sda8
1881
2174 2361523+ 83 Linux
<br>/dev/sda9
2175
2213 313236 82 Linux swap
<br>/dev/sda10
2214
2233 160618+ 83
<br>Linux
====================
<p>and this an excerpt from /etc/fstab:
<br>--------------------
<br>/dev/sda10
/
ext2 defaults
<br>1 1
<br>/dev/sda1
/boot
ext2 defaults
<br>1 2
<br>/dev/sda5
/home
ext2 defaults
<br>1 2
<br>/dev/sda6
/usr
ext2 defaults
<br>1 2
<br>/dev/sda7
/usr/local
ext2 defaults
<br>1 2
<br>/dev/sda8
/var
ext2 defaults
<br>1 2
<br>/dev/sda9
swap
swap defaults
<br>0 0
<br>--------------------
<br>So the /boot partition is (/dev/sda1) located at very beginning of
the
<br>disk.
<p> The overall installation
was straightforward. Only the LILO
<br>installation issued a warning:
<br>"Warning: /dev/sda1 is not on the first disk"
<p> But then, before booting
again I changed the BIOS booting sequence
<br>setting SCSI on the first place and IDE on the second. After saving
<br>this, the booting is restarted. The BIOS displays:
<br>"Searching for Boot Record from SCSI..OK"
<br>And then only appears:
<br>"LI"
<br>and it gets frozen.
<br> According to LILO's User's
Guide (pag. 44):
<br>"LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second
stage boot
<br> loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either
be caused by a
<br> geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without
running the map
<br> installer."
<br>Of course, I haven't moved /boob/boot.b. Since the disk is a large
one,
<br>I used the "linear" global option in lilo.conf, but no luck. I've also
<br>tried without it, with the same lack of success.
<p> If I install LILO on the
IDE disk, it works all right, but I don't like
<br>this solution because of the temporal condition of the disk.
<p> LILO's version is 21.
<p> I would greatly appreciate
any help to get the SCSI disk booting
<br>properly.
<p> Thanks in advance!
<br> Cheers!
<p> Jos� Manuel
<br>
<p>--
<br>Jose Manuel Benitez
Sanchez
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<br>Dpto. de Ciencias de la Computacion e Inteligencia Artificial
<br>E.T.S. Ingenieria Informatica
<br>Universidad de
Granada
Tel. +34 - 958 - 24 61 43
<br>18071 - GRANADA
(Spain)
Fax: +34 - 958 - 24 33 17</blockquote>
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From: Steve Fosdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and video card
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:31:23 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few months ago I tried to install redhat 6.1. It would not run with my
> intel video card. I see now there is a 6.2 out. Will it or any version of
> linux work with this video card.
Most graphical applications in Linux work by using the X Window system
and the implementation of X used by most, if not all Linux distributions is
XFree86 who have a web site at www.xfree86.org.
So the question of whether a particular graphics card is supported by a
particular Linux distribution can be answered in two parts:
1. Does XFree86 support the card and if so which versions of XFree86 is
it supported in. This information can be found from the XFree86 web site
but you'll need to know more about the graphics card than just that it has
been made by intel - a model name or number will also be required.
2. Which version of XFree86 does the Linux distribution in question supply.
I don't know which version of XFree86 comes with Redhat 6.2 but this
information is probably available from redhat's web site (www.redhat.com).
Hope this helps.
Steve.
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From: "Adrian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Elsa Erasor III pro VIVO
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:00:51 +0200
Can I use video in / video out of this card under linux (Best Linux) ?
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From: Steve Fosdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using ancient PC as a tty
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:05:51 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the
Unsightly One) wrote:
>
> I have an old ITT XTRA (8088-based) that I'd like to set up
> as a terminal. (I'm running linux (currently RH6.0) on a
> much newer PC, PII-based.) The XTRA has a CGA card and
> monitor, but only one colour tube works, so I'd like to
> use it as just a plain vanilla no-colour text-only tty.
>
> How would I set up something like that? Can I do that
> with a null-modem cable, given that both PCs have a free
> serial port?
Yes, that will do the trick.
> I assume the XTRA needs special software...
> can I download something somewhere that will work?
Yes, it needs software to make it emulate a terminal and
that software needs to run under whatever OS you have
installed or intend to install on the XTRA. If the XTRA
is running DOS then MS-DOS Kermit may be a
possibility for terminal emulation software - it is small and
fast. See http://kermit.columbia.edu
> Does the host PC need any special software, or does
> RH6 include that? Should I be asking this on a redhat
> usenet group?
You also need to make sure that the new PC running Linux has a
getty process running on the serial port that you want to use the text
terminal on.
I don't know which version of getty redhat ship - some can do
serial ports and others can't. More info on this would be found
in the text-terminal HOWTO (on www.linuxdoc.org) has more
information on this and a whole host of useful stuff on using
text terminals with Linux.
> Also, the new PC is actually a multiboot system. Can
> I assume that this won't matter as long as I only try
> to use the terminal when Linux is running?
If you try to use the terminal when running Windows it will
probably just not do anything, but you may get some funny
characters appear on the screen when the windows mouse
driver looks round for mice.
There is certainly no need to disconnect the terminal to run
windows but you may as well turn it off as it won't do anything
useful.
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From: Steve Fosdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: APC UPS & Powerchute
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:06:59 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> APC has downloadable software for ups monitoring -- powerchute -- they
> also have cables, listed in their website as an AT Serial Cable -- I'm
> presuming that a standard serial cable should work, but powerchute is
> not connecting with the ups.
>
> any ideas ?
>
> Dave Thompson
Someone else mentioned there being a different cable for Linux. This
seems a bit bizarre but may be the answer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard D. McRoberts)
Subject: Re: Using ancient PC as a tty
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jul 2000 14:12:23 -0400
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:44:57 GMT, Jonadab the Unsightly One
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an old ITT XTRA (8088-based) that I'd like to set up
>as a terminal. (I'm running linux (currently RH6.0) on a
>much newer PC, PII-based.) The XTRA has a CGA card and
>monitor, but only one colour tube works, so I'd like to
>use it as just a plain vanilla no-colour text-only tty.
>
>How would I set up something like that? Can I do that
>with a null-modem cable, given that both PCs have a free
>serial port? I assume the XTRA needs special software...
>can I download something somewhere that will work?
>
>Does the host PC need any special software, or does
>RH6 include that? Should I be asking this on a redhat
>usenet group?
>
>Also, the new PC is actually a multiboot system. Can
>I assume that this won't matter as long as I only try
>to use the terminal when Linux is running?
It's easy. RH6 has all the needed software, for the
Linux machine. I'm using an old HP DOS-based palmtop
as a terminal, similarly connected.
On the old PC you need some sort of terminal emulation
software, like Kermit or Telix or Procomm for DOS, such
as you would have used with a modem,
On the RedHat machine, add a line to the "# Run gettys..."
block of /etc/inittab, similar to
S0:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS0 DT38400 vt100
where the last three parameters correspond to the
desired serial port, baud rate, and terminal type
respectively. (Editing inittab is dangerous, so be
careful. For more information, read the manpage on
inittab.) Then execute "telinit q" to make init
re-examine inittab, and you should see a login
prompt on your terminal.
--
Richard D. McRoberts
Union, WV USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bruce Forsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Brother HL-1240
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:07:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Svend Garnaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The HL-1240 is fairly well supported with a standard driver. See:
>
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=234953
>
> I'd recommend a HL-1250 any day, though.
If you can afford it the HL-1270N is a good choice as well. It has
Postscript emulation builtin, a 10/100 Base T network card and works
very well. It comes with 4 MB standard and you can add 1 72 pin non-EDO
simm upto 32MB. If you will use graphics with postscript you will need
more memory. If you have alot of old computers laying around you
probably already have the extra memory. Since it has postscript it is
alot easier to setup, you don't need ghostscript.
Bruce Forsberg
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
Subject: Help Me! Debian install may have erased compaq's bios partition
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:24:21 -0600
Hi,
I have a compaq 1030 laptop onto which I installed Debian-Linux 2.1.
The system had a win partition, the compaq bios partition, a linux swap partition and
a regular
linux partition (for /). The initial install went ok, but the ethernet card wasn't
set up correctly
so I decided to reinstall the system (which in retrospect I probably should not have
done).
I got through the portion of the install in which you map swap and / to the partitions
and then
had to do something else for a while. When I returned to the machine 3 hours later it
had locked
up. I couldn't shell out or do anything else so I was forced to power off the
machine. During
the install I did not repartition the drive. In fact I am sure that I repeated the
same (successfull)
steps that I had taken before. In any case, the machine makes it to the initial
"Compaq" screen
and then hangs. It accesses the floppy once and (I think) the CD once. I never hear
it access
the HD. The crappy "QuickRestore" disk that came with it will not boot the machine.
The debian
rescue disk, the debian boot disk that I created durning the successful install, a
redhat rescue
disk and a windows boot disk also fail to boot the machine. The machine never makes it
to the
stage where I can check the bios with F10. I have tried (and succeeded in) causing a
keyboard
error in the hope that it will push me into the bios (it did not). Occassionally,
when using one of
the boot disks I get the message "Previous boot incomplete - default configuration
used".
Supposedly compaq makes something called a ROMpaq which can reinstall the bios
partition,
but I cannot find one for the 1030 on their website. Compaq is unhelpful of course.
So, does anyone have any ideas about this problem? I am sort of running out of things
to try and will
take any suggestions.
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Coene)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject: Re: If Linux, which? If not Linux, what? NOT flame-bait!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:53:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to Albert Ulmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> "David C." wrote:
> > > If not, IMHO you can also try Mandrake Linux, which is said to be
> > > quite good as well.
>
> > Mandrake is RedHat, plus some customizations.
>
> I am fully aware of that. But it is those customizations that make
> Mandrake a better choice than Redhat.
Mandrake uses quite a lot of compiler optimalizations, to make the code
faster on modern cpu's. However, these optimalizations wreak havoc on
not-that-much-compatible systems such as cyrix stuff.
I've seen plenty of posts from people complaining about the instability of
Mandrake.
Wouter
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wutmewurry)
Subject: Re: need help with soun card config
Date: 28 Jul 2000 18:59:22 GMT
I have a Crystal CS423x sounchip in a HP Pavilion.
>HI there,
>
>it is good that you described you problem but you did not point what model of
>sound card you have. Please, give as information about card as nobody will
>able
>to help without this info.
>
>Andrey
>
>Wutmewurry wrote:
>
>> I have Red Hat Linux 6.1 installed and am trying to get the soundcard
>> configured. I tried the sndconfig command, but that used to completely
>stall my
>> system. Now I tell my BIOS that I don't I don't have a PnP OS and I can get
>a
>> little further with sndconfig but I still need some help. I can hear
>sndconfig
>> play Linus' pronounciation of Linux, but then when it says that it will
>play a
>> MIDI sample to determine if my card's synth has been correctly configured,
>I
>> get the following message:
>> "The following error occurred running the modprobe program:
>> init_module : Device or resource busy
>> sound : Device or resource busy"
>> Also, my speakers pop quite loudly when the prog plays the Linus sound
>bite.
>> I tried all the different IO options available in sndconfig but they all
>give
>> me the same error. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
>> - Sean
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