Linux-Hardware Digest #390, Volume #13 Wed, 9 Aug 00 16:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: linux and i810 (D G)
Re: AC 97 on ASUS K7V-T (D G)
sound problem in Mandrake 7.0 (Derek Austin Harkins)
Re: scsi mystery (Esa Tikka)
Re: scsi mystery (Esa Tikka)
Re: scsi mystery (Esa Tikka)
Need module for wireless card ("M. Maraun")
Re: scsi hdd & ide cdrom ("billy")
Re: Why is my harddisk so slow? (James Knowles)
Re: scsi mystery (David C.)
Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez)
Re: Advice for celeron vs pentium under Linux (smp root)
Re: idebus speed (Lazardo)
R: Old Cpu ("Nemo")
Re: Promise FastTrack66 IDE Raid Controller (Godfrey)
Re: Using Promise Technology's Bios upgrade and ATA-66 boards with Linux (Godfrey)
Re: Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms (sideband)
Asus CUSL2 motherboard ("Filip Atanassov")
Setting default volume on laptop ("rob.kemp")
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From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux and i810
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:34:22 -0700
Jarek wrote:
>
> See www.osfaq.com/vol/linux_i810.htm
> I hope it helps
If that doesn't work, try:
http://www.osfaq.com/vol1/linux_i810.htm
--
DG
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From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AC 97 on ASUS K7V-T
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:37:38 -0700
Marc Waeckerlin wrote:
>
> John Kakareka wrote:
> > I have a Asus K7V with AC97 and got it working with the alsa drivers,
>
> Does it work with no limits (does MIDI work)?
> Are there any restrictrions in using Alsa instead
> of kernel modules?
ALSA is kernel modules. Everything works. Like most software, it has
occasional hiccups, but from my experience it works far more reliably
than the Windoze drivers. When it does crash, I just unload and reload
the modules and sound works again with no rebooting.
--
DG
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From: Derek Austin Harkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound problem in Mandrake 7.0
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:58:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My system setup is as follows:
Mandrake 7.0 on:
733 Mhz P3
128M ram
Rockwell HCF modem w/built in sound,(yes i know it wont work)
Another sound card that I dont know what is
Problem:
Sound will not work at all. On boot, the loading of the sound modules
FAIL. When I try to configure my sound card via lothar, I get a message
similar to, "Sound card recognized, as Rocwell chipset, but not
supported." I tried configuring it as a generic sound blaster and I get
the message, "Devise or resource busy"
I think the HCF soundcard may be catching the sound device before it sees
the real sound card and holding it open. Is there any to 'hide' that HCF
card from the os so it can find the real one? I am looking for a software
fix before i open the case and pull the card. I think it voids my
warranyt, but im not sure. If anyone thinks has any suggestions or just
want to laugh at me, please feel free:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Austin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: scsi mystery
Date: 9 Aug 2000 17:21:06 GMT
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:58:43 -0500, David Weis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>as/400 drives have 520 byte sectors. you should be able to low level
>format it from the scsi bios thing and make it work, or ask in
>comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware for 520to512.exe.
Actually, I have low-level formatted the drive when I got it with the
AHA-2940 bios. Does it make a difference what tools I use to format? Does
the host adapter know what the drive needs?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: scsi mystery
Date: 9 Aug 2000 17:45:23 GMT
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 09:06:29 +0200, Staffan Emren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>You're using an active terminator, but have you insured that it is
>getting enough power? The host adapter tries to supply power on the
>cable, but if the cable is not very short, a device close to the
>terminator (i.e. your hard drive) have to provide this power. Often
>UW-devices have a jumper called 'TP' or 'Terminating Power' or something
>like that. Check this out and see if things improve.
The IBM manuals are somewhat non-user-friendly, but I'm pretty sure I
got it right and the drive should be now supplying TERMPWR. Not much
better though.
Reading scsi-faq brings me to the part where the faq is talking about
oscilloscopes and measuring the voltage of TERMPWR... which reminds me of
the physical mounting of the drive to the computer case. The drive didn't
spin up properly and we used oscilloscope to check for too low voltages
from the outlet of the power supply. There was nothing wrong with the
power, but the drive was upside-down (it fitted in more easily that
way) and didn't like that.
Thanks for your answer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: scsi mystery
Date: 9 Aug 2000 17:36:13 GMT
On 08 Aug 2000 13:16:29 -0400, David C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Turn off automatic termination. It sometimes guesses wrong. Instead,
>manually set it. Since you have only one drive attached, the card
>should be terminating the entire bus.
Tried that (low on, high on), no change.
(btw, what do those low and high actually mean in termination?-)
>Check the cable length. With a single Fast/Wide device, you should be
>able to use a cable that is up to 6m long. But if the drive isn't fully
>compliant to the spec, you may have to use something shorter.
The cable is about one meter long. It seems to be in good condition,
but I'll borrow another cable (a good one, suppose tech people won't
use bad cables in raid systems...) to check that one.
>speed when talking to device ID 2. I'd pick the slowest (10M/s) speed
>(which will really be 20M/s if the device has a wide interface.)
I turned the speed to 10 M/s from the bios, the scsi driver says the same
stuff at boot time and unfortunalety nothing seems to change.
>My guess is that it's either cable length or termination.
Maybe I'll also try to get another terminator just for sure... All parts
should be in good condition though.
Thanks for your answer.
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From: "M. Maraun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need module for wireless card
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:10:10 +0200
Hello,
i have for Win9x a wireless card, but the company have no module for linux
:-((
Hardware:
www.diamondmm.com Homefree PCI and ISA 1MBits
Can someone help ?
Thanks a lot
M.L.M 1950
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "billy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: scsi hdd & ide cdrom
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 19:32:20 +0100
Hello All
> I am trying to install SuSe 6.4 on a pc with a 500M scsi drive id 0,
> and a 4G scsi drive id 1, and an IDE CDROM. The bios of the PC finds
> the card ok and the card bios finds the drives ok. Both drives can
> boot and see each other in DOS.
>
> They are on a Advansys PCI SCSI card (Taiwan clone) id 7. When the ide
> cdrom is used to boot, then the advansys module loaded via yast, the
> card is identified but timesout on all ids.
>
> If the pc is booted from floppy the system still times out on all ids.
> If the IDE ports are disabled in bios, or the cdrom removed the system
> will find the id0 drive but not id1 drive.
>
> Different cdroms and hard drives have been tried, I don't have a spare
> SCSI card.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Billy
>
>
I replaced the Avansys card with an Adaptec, more money :( , and all is ok.
Thanks All.
Billy
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is my harddisk so slow?
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:36:48 -0600
> Is there any way i can increase the performance (with software) ?
RAID-0, but that's an entirely different can of worms. The server here
uses the kernel's soft RAID-5 across three SCSI drives.
--
Those who want by the yard and work by the inch aught to be kicked by
the foot.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Subject: Re: scsi mystery
Date: 09 Aug 2000 14:59:48 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka) writes:
>
> (btw, what do those low and high actually mean in termination?-)
A 16-bit (wide) SCSI bus can be thought of as two busses. 50 pins are
identical to the 50 pins of 8-bit (narrow) SCSI. The remaining 18 pins
represent the additional signals used to double the bandwidth.
The narrow-compatible wires are often referred to as the "low" half of
the bus, while the 18 wires that are not shared with narrow SCSI are
referred to as the "high" half.
If your SCSI host adapter is at one end of the bus, and all your drives
are attached to a single port, the card must terminate both the low and
the high parts of the bus.
If the host adapter is in the middle of a bus, with wide-SCSI devices
attached on either side, then the card must not terminate anything.
The tricky part happens if the host adapter is in the middle of a bus,
with a wide device on one side, and a narrow device on the other. The
narrow device isn't wired to the 18 "high" wires, so it won't terminate
them. But without termination, the bus won't work. So the card must
terminate the high wires. It should not terminate the low wires,
however, because the drives at the ends of the bus will terminate them.
-- David
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From: Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:00:16 +0200
Hi all,
After getting Linux 2.2.16 compiled and running, I've detected that
the driver for ATAPI CDROM drives isn't working properly. Actually,
it's doing really bad.
At boot time, they are properly recognized and no error or warning
message is produced. However, when the cdrom tray is ejected and close,
the kernels yields a lot of error messages like the following:
=================
ATAPI device hdb:
Unknown Error Type: No sense data -- (Sense key=0x00)
No additional sense information -- (asc=0x00, ascq=0x00)
The failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal" packet command was:
"1e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
=================
It doesn't matter wether a CDRom is in the tray or not. The sequence of
error messages always takes place. This is just the beginning. When
forcing the mount of a cdrom, either through gitmount or direct mount
commands, the system simple gets frozen. There is no way to recover it:
neither keyboard, mouse, network or serial ports respond.
I've checked this problem in a number of different machines, Pentium,
PII, and PIII, equipped with different ATAPI CDROM drives : (e.g.
hdb: BCD 24XM CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdb: ACER CD-767E/O, ATAPI CDROM drive
How anybody experience this problem? Do you know of a solution? Any
patch for the driver?
Thanks in advance!
Jos� Manuel
--
Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dpto. de Ciencias de la Computacion e Inteligencia Artificial
E.T.S. Ingenieria Informatica
Universidad de Granada Tel. +34 - 958 - 24 61 43
18071 - GRANADA (Spain) Fax: +34 - 958 - 24 33 17
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Subject: Re: Advice for celeron vs pentium under Linux
From: smp root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:00:09 -0700
what a shame that the company that sold the hardware didn't
advise the client whether or not an smp based board would be
suitable. if the athlon did beat it by being more than twice as
fast i'd say shame on the company that sold them the kit. and i
wouldn't be to proud about having worked for them. still it's
better than working for them, i suppose:-) it's always worth
checking with a *competent* company before investing in hardware,
and is the speed gain was so dramatic on the athlon, that's bad
advice not poor hardware. check before going down the smp road
that it will work better for you than a monoprocessor setup.
intel or amd. still waiting for amd smp...
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From: Lazardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: idebus speed
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 19:13:35 GMT
Almost every intel/AMD-based board in existance runs a 33MHz PCI clock.
The actual value is usually based on FSB speed and a divider. Typical
are 66MHz = 1/2, 100MHz = 1/3, 133MHz = 1/4. Notice in each case the
PCI ends up being 33MHz. Read your motherboard manual.
'idebus=33' is correct for most non-overclocked boards, overclockers
know what is correct for them. The default of 40 in ide.c is
technically wrong.
[linux/drivers/block/ide.c]
* "idebus=xx" : inform IDE driver of VESA/PCI bus speed in
MHz,
* where "xx" is between 20 and 66
inclusive,
* used when tuning chipset PIO modes.
* For PCI bus, 25 is correct for a P75
system,
* 30 is correct for P90,P120,P180 systems,
* and 33 is used for P100,P133,P166
systems.
* If in doubt, use idebus=33 for PCI.
* As for VLB, it is safest to not specify
it.
[linux/drivers/block/opti621.c]
* There is a 25/33MHz switch in configuration
* register, but driver is written for use at any frequency which get
* (use idebus=xx to select PCI bus speed).
> When I boot Linux, one of the messages says:
>
> "ide: Assuming 40MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> idebus=xx"
>
> Since the PCI bus runs at 66 mhz, shouldn't the above value also be
> 66Mhz?
> If so, how can I set this value at boot (I don't want to key in
> "idebus=66" at the lilo prompt everytime I boot).
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
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From: "Nemo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: R: Old Cpu
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:21:08 +0200
First of all thank you all, now I will begin my search for Minix, second I
want to use a computer that doesn't have a GUI and can't even imagine what a
mouse is, I want to set up everything by myself and learn "the hard way"
how a computer works. I do have another computer P233 but there are too
many accessories to it and everything runs on it, it has all become too
boring... Nemo
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From: Godfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise FastTrack66 IDE Raid Controller
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:28:48 +1200
If you want raid and want to do it cheaply then one way is to use the
promise UDMA66 non-raid card and software raid.
The promise fasttrack66 implements raid in software in anycase so there is
no advantage in using the fasttrack66 over the ide card.
MAC wrote:
> We are building an ftp server, does anyone know if this particular
> controller works with RH6.2? I went to redhat.com's website for info,
> however
> was unsuccessful with this. NE nfo is greatly apprecciated.
>
> Mark
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From: Godfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Promise Technology's Bios upgrade and ATA-66 boards with Linux
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:36:55 +1200
My only experience is with the UDMA66 Promise PCI Card which I have been
using for about 8 months in a server running software raid1. The pci UDMA33
cards should also work.
It is easier to patch the kernel with a patch from
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/
so that the card is auto-detected rather than having to specify interupts
etc at boot time.
You can even get the ide ports recognised as hda thru hdd while the onboard
ports become hde thru hdh.
The ultra100 also works if you patch the kernel see http://www.linux-ide.org
Godfrey
mike wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a Pentium 166 and a few 486 DX2-66 machines that
> can't presently take larger hard drives. I purchased a WD ATA-66
> 20.4 gb drive and an IBM 15 gb ATA-100 hard drive. I would
> like to use these with my machines. I have been considering
> some of the possible Promise technology plugin pc boards.
> One just gives a bios upgrade to be able to use larger than
> 8.4 gb drives. (Drive Max) The another board is an Eidemax II
> isa board that gives the bios upgrade to larger drives and gives
> ATA-66 ports. There is a PCI version , ULTRA-66 PCI and Ultra-33
> and Ultra-100.
> Can I use any or all of these cards in my computers.
> If these boards can work, will they work right away or
> do I have to modify the Linux system for them to work.
> I, initially, would be happy without the speed upgrade
> if that would mean not, initially modifying the system
> just to allow the larger hard drives to work in it.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:51:59 -0400
Jose:
Odd... I'm running 2.2.16 on an AMD K6-2 500 with an ATAPI CD-ROM, listening to
CD's as we speak... What does your /etc/fstab look like pertaining to the CD-ROM?
I ::used:: To have that "problem" under the old 2.0.X kernels, until I figured out
I had the wrong settings for the cdrom in /etc/fstab....
Should look something like this:
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 owner,noauto,ro 0 0
Also, if you've got an application running, such as a CD Player of some sort, and
you eject the CD-ROM, the program is probably polling the CD for data every once in
awhile, which makes the kernel dump messages when it can't find the data... so try
closing out that CD player before ejecting the CD, then restarting the player.
Hope this helps.
-SSB
Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez wrote:
> Hi all,
> After getting Linux 2.2.16 compiled and running, I've detected that
> the driver for ATAPI CDROM drives isn't working properly. Actually,
> it's doing really bad.
>
> At boot time, they are properly recognized and no error or warning
> message is produced. However, when the cdrom tray is ejected and close,
> the kernels yields a lot of error messages like the following:
> -----------------
> ATAPI device hdb:
> Unknown Error Type: No sense data -- (Sense key=0x00)
> No additional sense information -- (asc=0x00, ascq=0x00)
> The failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal" packet command was:
> "1e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
> -----------------
>
> It doesn't matter wether a CDRom is in the tray or not. The sequence of
> error messages always takes place. This is just the beginning. When
> forcing the mount of a cdrom, either through gitmount or direct mount
> commands, the system simple gets frozen. There is no way to recover it:
> neither keyboard, mouse, network or serial ports respond.
>
> I've checked this problem in a number of different machines, Pentium,
> PII, and PIII, equipped with different ATAPI CDROM drives : (e.g.
> hdb: BCD 24XM CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdb: ACER CD-767E/O, ATAPI CDROM drive
>
> How anybody experience this problem? Do you know of a solution? Any
> patch for the driver?
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Jos� Manuel
>
> --
> Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dpto. de Ciencias de la Computacion e Inteligencia Artificial
> E.T.S. Ingenieria Informatica
> Universidad de Granada Tel. +34 - 958 - 24 61 43
> 18071 - GRANADA (Spain) Fax: +34 - 958 - 24 33 17
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From: "Filip Atanassov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Asus CUSL2 motherboard
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 20:00:02 GMT
Hi all,
anybody has some experience with the build-in video controller of Asus CUSL2
motherboard?
Does a driver exist?
Greetings,
filip
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From: "rob.kemp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting default volume on laptop
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:04:54 +0100
I've got a Chicony MP975 notebook computer, P133MMX, 48Mb, and an ESS1788
soundcard. Whenever I boot Linux (Mandrake 7.0) the soundcard makes hissing
and crackling noises until I reset the volume using aumix or whatever. I
thought I'd seen the solution to this problem here or elsewhere, but weeks
of searching Remarq and Deja have been fruitless. Does anyone know?
(Incidentally, the Chicony MP975 is the same as the Chembook 9750 or the EPS
MP975.)
Thanks.
Rob
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Rob Kemp
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