Linux-Hardware Digest #424, Volume #13 Mon, 14 Aug 00 23:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Modem Problem - help required (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (Bill Vermillion)
Re: Linux on AMD (Craig Bingman)
Re: Partition Size Advice (Craig Bingman)
SIIG SC-PE4612 UltraATA 66 PCI (Dave)
Re: New Linux hardware advice sought ("Dennis J. Tuchler")
LS-120??? ("Dennis J. Tuchler")
Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (Bill Vermillion)
Re: YAMAHA sound card (Stuart Fotheringham)
Re: Advice for celeron vs pentium under Linux ("John Mazza")
Re: AMD and Pentium ("John Mazza")
Re: IRQ under Linux ("Antony Lee")
Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE... ("John Mazza")
Re: Old Cpu ("John Mazza")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Modem Problem - help required
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:46:27 GMT
"Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Thanks for the feedback guys :)
>Thing is - I'll have to wait until it happens again for me to try your
>suggestions.
>Michael - I have been considereing buying an external modem. Do you have any
>recommendations on make/model?
[...]
I've had good results with standard Acer V90 modems. They're
sold here (Germany, YMMV) from USD 50.-- to USD 70.-- .
Good, reliable hardware - and it's even a class2.0 modem...
Michael (not working for Acer)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:48:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, I think the purchase could mean very good things
>for Caldera- they pick up a lot of engineering talent, and
>of course source code for things Linux currently doesn't
>have -
Well part of this is exactly why Love left Novell and founded
Caldera. He believed in Unixware, and He couldn't get those who were
so enamored of the Novell way to use the Unixware material they acquired
from USL to even look at it, so he started Caldera. That makes Calerda
one of the early players in the Linux world - and the plus is that
it was founded by those who believed in Unixware
Love left in 1994. It was a year later, 1995, when Novell sold the
USL to SCO. More than a few left Novell when the Netware side came
on so strong against Unixare.
This is just my opinion/speculation, but given Love's past like of
Unixware and the fight's he fought for it at Novell, I suspect he's
had his eye on CSO for a while. I don't know if he was part of the
group that casued Novell acquire USL in the first place, but I
wouldn't be surprised. THere's more to Caldera than 'just another
Linux company'.
I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
web page that came up eariler today. This has to be confusing for
all concerned.
>As to being broken, I have had contrary ...
I had the impression from the other poster that he meant 'broke' in
terms of no money. Ah - such is this language we call English.
--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Bingman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 14 Aug 2000 21:23:55 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blowfish <..> wrote:
>You know what?
>
>Actually it's very easy to show a newbie how to build from source.
Your comment presumes that there is someone to show the newbie how to
build from source. In many cases, there isn't. There certainly wasn't
anyone holding my hand when I first installed it, several years ago.
Craig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Bingman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: 14 Aug 2000 21:38:11 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>><swap> 128MB
>
>What's the rationale for sizing swap partitions ?
>How sensible would it be on say a 512 meg ram Linux box to have a mere
>64 or 128 meg swap partition ?
In the older kernel versions, swap partitions were limited to a useful
size of 128 meg. They could be larger than that, but only 128 megs was
used. One could, however, have multiple swap partitions. In more recent
kernels, this is no longer an issue and swap partitions can be larger.
If you have multiple drives, in most cases it makes more sense to
distribute smaller swap partitions to several drives than having one big
swap partition on one drive.
How large a swap partition needs to be depends entirely on what one
wants to do, so there is no universal rule for sizing them. I set mine up
to give me about 1 GB of total memory space, because very infrequently,
I run applications that call for almost that much memory.
Having even a smallish swap partion makes sense in almost all cases. When
you are running out of physical memory, the system should start to swap.
Even if you aren't paying much attention, you should notice that.
Craig
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SIIG SC-PE4612 UltraATA 66 PCI
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:42:06 GMT
Hi,
Using the latest 2.2.16 IDE patches, I have managed to get my SIIG,
UltraATA/66 controller working running 1.25 bios but I get
this error under heavy load:
> hde: timeout waiting for DMA
> ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma.timeout func only: 14
The machine will just lock up. Usually, I see this under heavy disk
activities while running some CPU intensive program. If I use the PIO
mode, the system is fine.
Any ideas? I may take a stab at looking through the kernel but if
anyone has seen this or have an idea, please let me know....
Thanks!
Dave
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 68
HPT366: chipset revision 1
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xb400-0xb407, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
HPT366: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 69
HPT366: chipset revision 1
HPT366: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc000-0xc007, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA, hdh:pio
hda: Memorex CDRW-2216, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdb: LS-120 VER5 00 UHD Floppy, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
hdc: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CDROM drive
hde: Maxtor 54098U8, ATA DISK drive
hdg: Maxtor 91024U4, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide2 at 0xac00-0xac07,0xb002 on irq 5
ide3 at 0xb800-0xb807,0xbc02 on irq 5
hde: Maxtor 54098U8, 39082MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=79406/16/63, UDMA(66)
hdg: Maxtor 91024U4, 9765MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=19841/16/63, UDMA(33)
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From: "Dennis J. Tuchler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: New Linux hardware advice sought
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:43:32 GMT
Indellible Blue builds machines to order and loads Linux on them. Try
the web site:
http://www.indelible-blue.com/ibapps/hardware.nsf/nav/home+page
Len Philpot wrote:
> First off - I've been lurking for a few days, but haven't seen a
> reference to a FAQ. If there is one I've missed, please excuse
> this post and direct me there.
>
> I'd like to get some advice (lots, really! :) ...
>
> When I replace my current setup, I plan to make Linux the
> primary, but not only, OS on the new system (most likely RH61 or
> 62, operating under KDE). I want to make sure I choose hardware
> wisely and get 'stuff' that will work well with Linux. I've also
> got some legacy stuff I'll want to attach if at all possible.
>
> Here's my current system, presently running W95:
>
> P5/133, combo PCI/ISA slots
> Epson ActionLaser 1500
> UMAX Astra 1200S SCSI scanner
> ISA SCSI-1 adapter
> (2) ISA NE2000 compatible NICs
> Colorado 250 QIC80 tape drive
> 28.8 faxmodem
> etc...
>
> I realize I'll want/need to replace the NICs and SCSI adapter
> with PCI cards, no huge deal. The only thing about the scanner is
> that it's got the HP-style DB25 connection on the scanner and the
> SCSI-1 connection on the adapter. Are there hybrid cables around
> that will give me the DB25 on one end and SCSI-2/3 on the other?
> Or can you even get SCSI-1 on PCI? I don't see anything else
> being attached to the SCSI chain, BTW. Or, would I be better off
> just getting a totally SCSI system with no IDE drives at all?
>
> The tape drive is history and will stay with the old system. It's
> floppy-connected and WAY too low capacity for serious use. I'll
> do backups some other way, to be determined (hopefully,
> networkable and schedulable). I'm currently using a cable modem
> and will continue to do so, but I'll need a regular modem for
> other things. Is a (PCI) internal or external modem preferred? I
> know to stay away from Winmodems. I should have no problems with
> the laser printer - In fact, I print to it right now from a
> network-attached Linux box via SAMBA.
>
> I know most of what I want to use will work fine, but I'd like to
> avoid any well-known gotchas when I buy. Any rules of thumb,
> specific hardware to avoid or seek out? So far, I've been
> attracted to the Dell Dimension series, but I'm open to
> alternatives. Huge multimedia capabilities are no major
> attraction for me. Just basic sound with little dinky speakers
> are fine with me.
>
> For minimum desired basic hardware, I'd say:
> * 700+ mHz
> * 128+ MB RAM
> * 20+ GB HD
> * 17" monitor
> * 10-baseT is fine for network, but I'll not go out of my way to
> avoid 100mbs (this is a home network with other 10mbs hosts)
> * 8MB video RAM (I WON'T be playing any games beyond 'solitaire'
> types); I might well be running The Gimp, though.
>
> All that said, I'd like to keep it at/under $2000. I _think_ I
> can do this, but it might be challenging...
>
> I need to contact Dell to find out their policy on OS media: Do
> you get it, or just a recovery CD? Can I get Linux pre-installed
> with a partition set aside for <my secondary OS>?, etc., etc. If
> anyone knows of specific vendors who do / don't, please let me
> know.
>
> Is AMD a better bet than Intel? Do I need to avoid Cyrix? Are
> there any known issues with non-Intel CPUs? With Intel, do I need
> to stay away from Celerons?
>
> Of course, there's the whole process of nailing down new Linux
> software to (better) do what I'm currently doing under W95, but
> one thing at a time... :)
>
> Thanks for any and all advice.
>
> -- Len Philpot -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) <--
> ----------------> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) <--
> ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <--
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From: "Dennis J. Tuchler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LS-120???
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:46:40 GMT
How is Linux with the LS-120 floppy drive? Will Linux accommodate its
file system; can you format it to 120MB with Linux?
Thanks
djt
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:02:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
>reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
>web page that came up eariler today. This has to be confusing for
>all concerned.
Ah. The page I saw this AM as the default is now linked on the
original home page as "New Web Sites". That was a surprise when I
was trying to hunt for something and it had all changed.
--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:50:15 +0930
From: Stuart Fotheringham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: YAMAHA sound card
It's a YMF724 or YMF724e
Flukezero wrote:
> Stuart Fotheringham wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know how to get the Yamaha sound card working under RH6.2
>
> Please provide the model of the card (ie. YMF-724), and in my
> experiences with yamahas you can't use them unless you buy OSS with the
> yamaha modules. I ditched the yamaha and got a Soundblaster 16
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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Advice for celeron vs pentium under Linux
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:24:17 GMT
No problem.
BTW - Always question the specs you are given to make sure that the customer
REALLY wants what they are asking for <g>.
smp root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i can only suppose that you guys are pretty high up on the seti
> classification :-)))
>
> glad we got all that cleared up.
>
> cheers!
>
>
>
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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD and Pentium
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:28:00 GMT
It really boils down to the overall design of the machine, the components
used, and how well the bios settings are optimized. There is more to it
than processor manufacurer.
sanjeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8n8ql1$fk7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> For computational purposes , between AMD and Pentium processor of same
> clock frequency is better?
> Could someone give some insight into it?
>
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From: "Antony Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: IRQ under Linux
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:38:02 +0800
Dear David
Do you have any suggestion ?
I am ugrently need to help.
I tried RH 6.1, RH 6.2, SuSE 6.4, Slackware 7.1 none of them can
make my network up. I tried, but also failed, to exclude the irq 11
from the config.opts, added the irq_list to OPT_PCIC.
Under RH 6.1, SuSE 6.4, and RH 6.2 with disabled loading the sound module,
my network card can be recognized but not the network.
If I did not diable the loading of sound module in RH 6.2 (after
installation, the
sound module was automatically loaded), my PC hanged during the startup at
loading the PCMCIA module and could be contiuned if the network card was
ejected.
Under Slackware 7.1, my network card was totally unrecognizable. (I wonder
why is it. Slackware is using Kernel 2.2.16 but the other is running lower
version.
Is the kernel for Slackware needs some patches ?)
Thanks
Antony
David Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8n9in7$3n7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.portable Antony Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : lspci shows that the IRQ the card using is 11, and so does
> : the pcmcia controller. lspci also reported that the IRQ 11is
> : also using by the SMI811 display card and ESS Maestro 2E
> : sound card. I guessed it is the reason why my network is not
> : running.
>
> No, that's not the reason.
>
> : Does anyone know how can I change the IRQ of the card ?
>
> In this case, you should not try to change the irq. PCI interrupts
> can be shared, and the fact that your sound card and VGA chip are
> sharing the same irq is not a problem.
>
> -- Dave
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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE...
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:34:50 GMT
You might want to check the BIOS settings for CAS latency to make sure that
you are not experiencing excessive wait states on memory access.
<Alvaro Palma Aste [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ma86c$dl3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> En comp.os.linux.hardware EKK escribio:
>
> Do you have the FPU activated in Kernel?
> Are you using PC100? Is your Pentium running with FSB at 100Mhz? in
> this case, probably you have a Pentium at only 490 Mhz (if your
> Pentium is B (or E, I never can remember what is for Coopermine and
> what for 133Mhz), the FSB MUST BE 133MHZ!!!
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Regards from Chile
>
> >OK,
>
> >I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT DIDN'T GET AS MUCH RESPONSE
> >AS I THOUGH I WOULD.
>
> >HAS ANYONE EXPERIENCED BELOW-EXPECTATIONS PERFORMANCE FROM
> >COPPERMINE PENTIUM III CHIPS?
>
> >MY NEW PIII850, PIII650 PERFORM ONLY MARGINALLY BETTER THAN
> >MY OLD PII450.
>
> >CACHE!!!!
>
> >IS THIS OR IS THIS NOT AN ISSUE?
>
> >SUPPOSEDLY THE NEW 256KB ON-DIE CACHE IS MORE EFFICIENT, BUT
> >PERHAPS ONLY FOR MUNDANE WINDOWS TASKS. IF I AM RUNNING A
> >MEMORY-INTENSIVE LARGE PROBLEM THAT IS MOSTLY FLOATING POINT
> >OPERATIONS, AM I BETTER OFF WITH THE LARGER CACHE.
> >IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE WITH OTHER PROCESSORS, LIKE MIPS OR
> >ALPHA. FOR EXAMPLE THE ALPHA 667MHZ (DP264) HAS A FAT 4MB
> >CACHE AND IT IS TWICE AS FAST AS A PIII500(512KB CACHE).
> >ALSO, THE MIPS PROCESSORS FREQUENCY IS BELOW PENTIUM FREQ.
> >BUT THE LARGER CACHE USUALLY SEEMS TO MAKE UP IN OVERALL
> >SPEED.
>
> >NOW. I KNOW THE ALPHA IS THE FASTEST OUT THERE AND I AM
> >VERY HAPPY WITH IT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT A PIII850 WOULD AT
> >LEAST BE 1.5 TIMES FASTER THAN A PII450.
>
> >WHAT IS GOING ON?????
>
> >SHOULD I JUST RETURN THESE NEW PROCESSORS AND HUNT FOR AN
> >EXTINCT PIII600MHZ WITH THE OLD-STYLE 512KB CACHE????????
>
>
> >PERPLEXED,
>
> >AG
> >--
>
>
> >P.S.: PLEASE ALSO REFER TO MESSAGE WITH HEADER:
> >"slow PIII850MHz performance..."
>
> >THANK YOU MUCH.
>
>
>
>
>
> >Alessandro Giachino, Software Engineer
>
> >EKK Inc.
> >2065 West Maple C309 tel. 248-624-9957
> >Walled Lake MI 48390 fax. 248-624-7158
> >_____________________________________________
> > http://www.ekkinc.com
>
> --
> Atte
>
> �lvaro Palma Aste
> Grupo de Ing Biom�dica
> U. de Chile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old Cpu
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:59:49 GMT
Cool. Good luck on your project!!!!
Nemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8msarf$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> First of all thank you all, now I will begin my search for Minix, second I
> want to use a computer that doesn't have a GUI and can't even imagine what
a
> mouse is, I want to set up everything by myself and learn "the hard way"
> how a computer works. I do have another computer P233 but there are too
> many accessories to it and everything runs on it, it has all become too
> boring... Nemo
>
>
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