Linux-Hardware Digest #433, Volume #13 Wed, 16 Aug 00 13:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: Dual processor board? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
moving hdb -> hda (Mike Jenkins)
Re: Linux and Gigabyte GA 6 BXD (Michael Meding)
Alps Touchpad ("David Elliott")
Re: PC133 ? ("Tom Brinkman")
IRQ-Finding-Problem (Stefan Silberstein)
Re: Vibra 128PCI (Kenneth R�rvik)
Re: tape streamer error (Ralf Cirksena)
Re: Intellimouse Optical OK? (Lou Grinzo)
Can't burn CD-R. Get Read-only file system message ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are there any that will work with the Intel i810? ("Jeff D. Hamann")
Re: Are there any that will work with the Intel i810? ("Jeff D. Hamann")
Re: Defrag in Linux? (Dale Pontius)
Error Installing Caldera eDesktop 2.4 ("thaboyz")
Re: moving hdb -> hda (Wolfgang Fritz)
Utra Ata 100 Promise (Andrea)
Re: Sparq 1GB drive on linux (Richard)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual processor board?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:59:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> One sample of why, from the log:
> kernel: unexpected IRQ vector 217 on CPU#1!
>
> Apparently this new functionality requires adding irq handler code,
but
> the code doesn't exist, so it sends it to limbo. It is good, however,
to
> see progress on this subject. Apparently the IRQ assertion needs a
> handler. Chances are that the hardware that the assertion uses
> hard-codes or firm-codes 217 as a standardized value (or soon-to-be).
I would have thought that this bit just meant that the APIC had a new
capability, which Linux doesn't know about and so wouldn't use. Still,
what do I know :-)?
The PCI64 spec is 29802501.pdf (Intel 82806AA PCI 64 Hub), downloaded
from www.intel.com, and it describes the version register on page 44. It
describes bit 15 as follows:
"PRQ: This bit is set to 1 to indicate that this version of the IO-APIC
implements the IRQ Assertion register and allows PCI devices to write to
it to cause interrupts."
(Reproduced without permission)
> Will anyone be able to use this new information to help stabilize the
i840 boards?
We can but hope ...
Chris
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From: Mike Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: moving hdb -> hda
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:53:30 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Okay, so I should have had an up-to-date boot disk.
I was running a system with two IDE controllers, each supporting two
devices. The first controller master was a 3 GB hard disk with Win95,
with LILO in the MBR. The slave was a 10 GB hard disk with L-M 7.1. (The
second has a CD device and a Zip drive.) I came home from vacation to
find that the first hard drive (the boot device) had crashed.
I moved the slave drive to the master (actually, "single") position, and
ran the L-M CD in "rescue" mode. I then used a "dd" command I found in
the kernel HOW-TO (I'm getting really good at picking up useful facts in
ancillary documents ;) to create a floppy disk that would have booted
the hard disk, except that... the hard disk thought it was /dev/hdb,
when it was now /dev/hda.
After many hours of trying and re-trying approaches, I finally did a
"non-destructive" reinstall of L-M, and aborted partway through the
package loading. (It presented a screen reporting that there was not
enough disk space to continue; I crossed myself and pressed the "reset"
button). I guess that this was enough to either rewrite the partition
table, or change enough initialization files on the disk to read hda vs.
hdb. Anyway, I can now boot from the floppy that I made, and making the
hard disk bootable should be a matter of running LILO.
The reason that I am writing is that this has got to have been one of
the most risky methods of restoring my system (at least the linux part).
Can someone explain to me (or, more likely, point me to a reference that
explains) what was going on, and what would have been a more canonical
or at least less risky method for recovering from my disaster (i.e.,
boot disk fails, moving secondary disk to boot disk role)?
Sorry for the length. Thanks for any responses.
Mike
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From: Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Gigabyte GA 6 BXD
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:19:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi there,
I had this running in a dual slotket celeron setup without problems
whatsoever for about 6 Months.
Regards
Michael
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From: "David Elliott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alps Touchpad
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:15:55 +0200
Hello All
I have a problem with linux and my alps touchpad on my laptop. I do not have
a mouse pointer i just have a block.
Does anybody have a driver or any suggestions.
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From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PC133 ?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:22:07 -0500
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am using Mandrake 7.1 - is there any way to know if my memory is
> running at 133MHz ?
>
Your motherboard/bios, nothing else, determines at what speed
and timings (eg, 3-3-3) your ram runs at. So what's it set to in
bios?
--
~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stefan Silberstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IRQ-Finding-Problem
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:36:39 +0200
I need an availble IRQ for my SCSI Controller.
How do I search for one?
Thanks for Helping,
Stefan
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Subject: Re: Vibra 128PCI
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:34:46 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terence Chan) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Oh! Thank a lot. I can listen music with RH now. But the sound volume is
>mush low then the one I hear with xxx98. Why?
The sound settings are quite conservative be default - try setting them
with a mixer program (like kmix)
--
Kenneth R�rvik 91841353/22718452
Steenstrupsgate 5 B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0554 OSLO home.no.net/stasis
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From: Ralf Cirksena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tape streamer error
Date: 16 Aug 2000 12:13:01 GMT
Jef De Puydt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<U9Ye5.141$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> When I try to make a tar on a tape, after some 20 minutes I get:
> tar: WARNING: Cannot close /dev/st0 (3, -1): Input/output error
> Prepare volume #2 for /dev/st0 and hit return:
Did you follow the instruction?
tar says, that the 1st tape is full and waits for the 2nd tape of a
multi volume backup.
--
R. Cirksena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lou Grinzo)
Subject: Re: Intellimouse Optical OK?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:02:59 GMT
I've also had very good luck with them. I run MS opticals
(the ones the look like the older, all-beige mice, not
the new ones with the silver insets and red bottom) on
two different systems. Work great, and I don't have to
clean the stupid mouse balls any more.
Lou
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Yup. It's just another Intellimouse; I left my box configured as
> having a PS/2 Intellimouse after I replaced my old Intellimouse with an
> Intellimouse Optical, no problems. The Opticals are *nice*, btw.
>
> Gerardo wrote:
> >
> > Does Linux supports Intellimouse Optical?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gerardo
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> Brian Stretch http://www.mindspring.com/~bstretch Cert. Technojunkie
> "Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a
> well-heeled Western liberal to explain that the face does, after all,
> enjoy free health care and 100 percent literacy."--John Derbyshire, NR
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't burn CD-R. Get Read-only file system message
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:58:50 GMT
I have an HP CD-Writer+ 7200i IDE drive. I've
been through the CD_Writing howto and have the
drive setup under SCSI emulation and passing the
tests in the howto. When I try using cdrdao to
try writing to /dev/cdrecorder (which is symb.
linked to /dec/scd0) I get:
ERROR: Cannot open generic scsi device
'/dev/cdrecorder': Read-only file system
If cdrecord -scanbus I get:
Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C)
1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 100 '
'23.D' Removable Disk
0,1,0 1) 'HP ' 'CD-Writer+ 7200 '
'3.01' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7)
*
So I tried using the cdrdao --device 0,1,0 option
and I get:
ERROR: Cannot open generic scsi device '0,1,0': No
such file or directory
Can anyone help me please?
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From: "Jeff D. Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Are there any that will work with the Intel i810?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:26:28 -0700
Got the ethernet card working fine. The instuctions from Linksys were great
and a minimum of pain was involved. I' m still amazed I haven't been flamed
yet. Should have known better.
Regarding the video....
I thought I might be smarter to install the XFree86 4.0.1 software instead
of following the instructions from Intel on
I get an error in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log
blah, blah, blah
(WW) Couldn't open module glide2x
blah, blah, blah...
Need to have Glide installed ... and make a link.....
blah, blah, blah....
So, I'm guessing Glide (whatever that is didn't come with RedHat 6.0). Where
do I get it....
Thanks again.
Jeff.
--
===========================================================
Jeff D. Hamann
280 Peavy Hall
Department of Forest Resources
Oregon State University
Corvallis, Oregon 97331-8566 USA
541-740-5988
541-737-2375
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Jeff D. Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I know crossposting is bad etiquette, but then so is an OS that's a pain
in
> > the neck.
>
> Crossposting isn't a problem, so long as you choose appropriate groups.
>
> > I just purchased a MB with the i810 chipset, thinking that it would be
nice
> > to have all the peripherals on the MB, and have had nothing but problems
> > running X. I've tried downloading the latest release of XFree86 4.0.1
and
> > still get bad results. I'm tired of wasting time trying to get the
machine
> > to run linux and don't want to spend anymore time downloading source
files,
> > tarballs, and rpm's trying to get a windowing environment. Let's not
even
> > talk about recompiling the kernel for the Linksys LNE100TX ethernet
card.
>
> OK. How about we instead talk about what sort of problems you're
> having, so we can help you? Can you get into video mode at all? Does
> Linux not boot? I know there are people happily running Linux on the
> 810, so it's certainly possible.
>
> > Where can I download, or even purchase at this point, a version of linux
> > that will handle the i810 onboard video correctly? MUST HAVE GOOD
DIRECTIONS
> > FOR INSTALLING AND TROUBLESHOOTING.
>
> Remind me why I should go out of my way to help you when you come out
> with an attitude like this?
>
> --
> Eric McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> "hand, n. A singular instrument worn at the end of a human arm and
> commonly thrust into somebody's pocket." - Ambrose Bierce
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From: "Jeff D. Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Are there any that will work with the Intel i810?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:34:40 -0700
I guess I'll be trying Mandrake 7.1. It's worth the 30 bucks to not waste an
hour of my time getting the machine up and running.
I just can't believe all this trouble could be worth it. I've use linux
before and really enjoyed it and trying to use a great packages like GRASS
and MySQL are worth the small amount of pain trying to get the hang of *nix
down, but really dude, this crap about having to recompile the kernel and
such. Forget it, makes me still understand why Windoze rules the pc world.
Who says Linux is free (Time == $).
Thanks,
Jeff.
========================================================
Jeff D. Hamann
280 Peavy Hall
Department of Forest Resources
Oregon State University
Corvallis, Oregon 97331-8566 USA
541-740-5988
541-737-2375
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Hammer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8nco8a$587$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Jeff. We just got two of those i180 cheapbastards in here and had a
> wrastling match with'em. I went the RH62 route, and experiencd all the
> same problems you are (solved now though, after much pain)
>
> Another guy had a Mandrake 7.1 CD... guess what... zero trouble. These
> are (stupid/cheap/crap) Dell Optiplex GX110 boxes with the
> i810/810e/AC'97).
>
> Neither of us still have sound (crap AC'97), but we're working.
>
> I feel yer pain bro... seriously. I had the exact same XFree 4
> problems you did. I went and fetched all those glide libs too... only
> to find out it was useless because the XFree86 -configure would end up
> halting on a signal anyway later (grrrrrrrrrrrrr).
>
> If you'd like my working XF4.0 XF86Config for the 810e, I'd be happy to
> share it. Unfortunately, you also have to go through the runaround of a
> kernel update (to get agpgart) before getting it to work though, you
> can't just take my file and have it working. Also, it has been
> mentioned before to avoid the Intel agpgart, and use the one in the
> kernel update. I tried both, and had better luck with the 2.2.16-3
> kernel.
>
> Good luck. You're not alone man... i810 support from RH62 is really,
> really (really!) poor... but it can be conquered, if you're up to it.
>
> -=hammer
>
>
> In article <8n9ubi$rrs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Jeff D. Hamann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll give these a try. thanks.
> >
> > Jeff.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Jeff D. Hamann
> > 280 Peavy Hall
> > Department of Forest Resources
> > Oregon State University
> > Corvallis, Oregon 97331-8566 USA
> > 541-740-5988
> > 541-737-2375
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Andrey Vlasov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > probably you need these
> > >
> > > http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel810/linuxsoftware.htm
> > > http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel815/30483.htm
> > > http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel815/linuxsoftware.htm
> > > http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel810/linuxpredrivr.htm
> > >
> > > Hope it will help to solve the problem.
> > > (By the way "did you have habit to check manufacture web page for
> Linux
> > > keyword? ;-)
> > >
> > > Andrey
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> MC
> "I've been trying to get as far away from myself as I can" - Bob Dylan
>
>
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> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Pontius)
Subject: Re: Defrag in Linux?
Date: 16 Aug 2000 15:45:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thank you all for answering my 8 questions in one. Just out of curiosity, how
> is it that defragmentation is almost never goes over 8%?
...
Let's go back to DOS 1.0 - floppy based. When you allocate a new file,
DOS would start at the beginning of freespace and find a place to put
it. If the place wasn't big enough, because you were trying to fit into
where a deleted file used to be, then it would fragment the file. It
would use the existing space, then search the freespace list for another
chunk of space.
DOS 2.0 added hard drive support and subdirectories, but kept this same
strategy of allocating new files at the beginning of freespace. With
any level of file activity, this allocation scheme pretty much
GUARANTEES fragmentation.
DOS 3.0 changed this policy, not because of the fragmentation, but
because they were spending too much time traversing the freespace list
to collect enough space. With this release, DOS kept an allocation
pointer separate from the freespace list. New files are allocated using
that pointer, and it always marches 'up'. If files are deleted, you
don't go back and try to use the space, at least not immediately. As
far as I know, this technique is still in use, today. There are a few
(negative) swizzles to it. First off, the allocation pointer is not
kept at shutdown. Upon boot, the allocation pointer points to the
beginning of freespace. Second, if the allocation pointer rolls to the
end of the partition, it comes back to the beginning of freespace.
The DOS3 scheme is generally better but both of these schemes
essentially have only one place to creat a file, either at the beginning
of freespace or at the allocation pointer. But especially in a multi-
tasking OS, it's possible (and likely) to have many growing files open
at the same time.
I'm not terribly familiar with ext2, but I suspect it shares some
general heritage with OS/2's HPFS. In HPFS, the disk space is broken
into bands, and filespace can be allocated from above and below the
center of each band. There are many places to allocate, so chances are
much better that you won't have several files leapfrogging each others'
clusters in an ugly way.
There's more, like best-fit/worst-fit/first-fit, and use of different
areas for different anticipated lifetimes, etc. But these are some
basics.
Dale Pontius
NOT speaking for IBM
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From: "thaboyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Error Installing Caldera eDesktop 2.4
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:10:30 GMT
I'm trying to install Caldera eDesktop 2.4 onto a Quantum 10GB hard drive.
The hard drive is currently formatted as FAT32 and has nothing on it, just
one partition of 10GB. I booted from the Caldera CD-ROM to install
eDesktop. I chose the Standard Installation option and the installer
proceeds to the next screen where it loads the kernel and boots the kernel.
The kernel loads fine but when the installer tries to boot the kernel I get
this error message:
"Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03"
The installer then just hangs, not allowing me to do anything. The computer
I'm installing eDesktop onto is a Asus P3B-F motherboard, PIII 650E, 64 MB
SDRAM, Asus V3800AGP Deluxe video card (NVIDIA Riva TNT 2 Ultra chipset),
PS/2 Microsoft mouse and PS/2 Microsoft keyboard, 3COM 905C-TX NIC card,
Acer 40X IDE CD-ROM and a Plextor 8W/4RW/32R CD-R drive.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Wolfgang Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: moving hdb -> hda
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:15:30 +0200
Mike Jenkins wrote:
>
> Okay, so I should have had an up-to-date boot disk.
>
Yes...
> I was running a system with two IDE controllers, each supporting two
> devices. The first controller master was a 3 GB hard disk with Win95,
> with LILO in the MBR. The slave was a 10 GB hard disk with L-M 7.1. (The
> second has a CD device and a Zip drive.) I came home from vacation to
> find that the first hard drive (the boot device) had crashed.
>
I had the same problem some time ago and solved ist as follows. I'm
running Suse, but that should only affect step 1:
1. Copied a boot floppy from my Suse CD (PC could not boot from CD). I
did it on a friend's Windows PC.
2. Booted with the floppy. At the lilo prompt I pressed TAB and entered
root=hdb3. (You should always know your root partition!)
3. Linux comes up as usual.
4. Edited /etc/fstab to change all references to hdb to hda.
5. Did a shutdown, jumpered the HD to master.
6. Entered BIOS setup, changed hd arrangement.
7. Rebooted with floppy, giving lilo root=/dev/hda3 now.
8. Changed lilo configuration to reflect the new boot configuration,
reran lilo and
9. Enjoyed.
A similar problem came up with another PC when I wanted to move Linux to
a new bigger HD.
This PC has hda for W98 only (it came with it, so why remove) and linux
is on hdb. The second IDE has a CDROM and a CDRW. For copying the linux
to the new HD, I removed the CDROM and installed the new HD instead (it
became hdc). I partioned hdc, copied all partitions from hdb to hdc,
edited fstab on hdc for the new partitioning and booted to hdc via
floppy. After some testing, I changed fstab back to hdb, replaced the
old HD by the new, booted via floppy to hdb and continued from step 6
(additional step 8a: Re-installed the CDROM)
Wolfgang
[...]
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From: Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Utra Ata 100 Promise
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:47:12 +0200
Hi,
I am from Italy, sorry for my bad english. I explain my problem:
I have the ASUS K7V and an old hard disk, I would like to by
a new one . I saw that now are available the ULTRA ATA 100
and Linux support this. My MB support the ultra ATA 66 so I
would like to by a controller ATA 100. My question is in the site
www.linux-ide.org is write that the controller PROMISE ULTRA
ATA 100 PCI is supporter but the shop where I find the controller
tell my that it is incompatible with Linux and if I put this controller
I can not install Linux because Linux can not see the HD connect to
this controller.
Someone has installed Linux with this controller?
Thank you
Andrea
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sparq 1GB drive on linux
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:09:45 GMT
Thanks a bunch. That's the kind of thing I was hoping to hear. I'm thought
that would be the case, but wanted to be sure. Thanks again. =)
Rich
Jason wrote:
> I have had 0 problem in getting my SparQ drive to work under Linux. In fact,
> when I was going Distro crazy, I actually ran FROM the SparQ. Hooked it up,
> loaded the OS onto the SparQ and just experimented that way. Linux will
> look at it as just another IDE drive. Just remember to umount the drive
> before trying to switch discs or you will get more media messages then you
> care to even think about. Good Luck.
>
> --
> Jason
> www.cyborgworkshop.com
> ...and the geek shall inherit the earth...
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