Linux-Hardware Digest #490, Volume #13 Mon, 28 Aug 00 14:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem (Massimo Morin)
Re: cannot get into Gnome (Steven Fosdick)
Re: scsi bus resets with aic7xxx (David C.)
CyberPro IGS 2010 Driver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
where can i find epson laser epl-5700L driver ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SiS 5597/5598 - resolution ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: linksys question... (Duane)
Abit KT7 / Asus V6800 Deluxe boot probs (Eric Dondelinger)
Re: Virtual Desktop (Dances With Crows)
Re: Help With Correctly Mounting SCSI CDROM Writer (brian)
Re: Help With Correctly Mounting SCSI CDROM Writer (brian)
Re: Zip100 Mount Problems - /dev/sda4 not a valid block device (Jens Stegemann)
Re: Sony SDT-7000 DDS2 problem (Trent Piepho)
Re: Pizza box ATX cases? (xiangdong shi)
Re: Parallel InkJet Printer? ("Manuel Jander Jansen")
Problem with GeForce 2 GTS (xiangdong shi)
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From: Massimo Morin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 2000 - distortion problem
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:41:43 -0400
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Hi,
this is an answer to another question but ....
==================
Hi
got a Duron 700 with Golden Orb fan (I know the gotcha: read on!) with a
MSI 6330 K7TPro, and a ATI Rage Fury MAxx on a 300W PS.
1) CPU is great: I love the price ($100) and the performance ;)
2) The mobo is damn good! The cpu got overheated: it reaches a
temperature of 117F (47C) and the mobo turned itself off. I dunno the
temp specs, but
added an extra case fan, I got temperature around 109F (43C). Now it is
stable. I suppose the temperature should be lower, around 87F (35C)
3) DO NOT GET THE GOLDEN ORB. It is an abortion of Fan. Get a better
one. It can crash the CPU. IMHO it does not provide enought cooling for
the cpu. I'm trying to get the Chrome ORB that is suppose to be better
(check out http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/corb/)
4) the video card .... well on paper is great and.... that is it! I got
problem with XFree 86 (I'm new with Suse6.4). Xfree86 3.3.6 hangs the
WHOLE system.
XFree 4.0 is partially working. XFree86 4.0.1 shows me some sugar....
but it is still not perfect. I got it up and runnig at the 24bpp
1600x1200 but I'm not
impressed/happy yet. I'm going to tweek the video frequency tho and I'll
see. I'm not a gaming fan either but for $130 I want something more
"friendly"....
On the side, the drivers for Windoze98 SUCKS big time. I wasn;'t able to
get them installed. I got the new one from ATI, but it looks like there
is a
conflict with the mobo drivers: after a whole sunny sunday missed
(something rare here in Boston) I got it to run properly only ONCE.Now
I'm trying to
figure out what is wrong:damn it I want it to get me more that 480x640 @
16 colors!
So here is my $0.02
If anybody else can give me other news on this systems please, speak up!
Thx
Max
baghdady wrote:
> I have an Xpert 2000 on my machine and I have recentlely
> installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 with XFree 3.3.6. Until now, I
> haven't been able to get the graphics card to work and I am
> using the VGA16 server instead (very ugly). I have tried all the
> cards in the list in both XF86Setup that have the words "rage"
> or "xpert" in them without any luck. I have tried to change the
> XFConfig file manually following the suggestions of some web
> pages and some friends without any luck either. I even installed
> the "XFCom-r128-glibc2.1-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm" mentioned above and
> following the steps in the web page without any success.
> I gather from your emails that you *all* have managed to install
> this card (even though some of you have some problems). Could
> somebody *please* tell me what he/she did to install the card?
> Any suggestions are of great help.
> Thanx
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
> Up to 100 minutes free!
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Hi,
<br>this is an answer to another question but ....
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<br>Hi
<br>got a Duron 700 with Golden Orb fan (I know the gotcha: read on!) with
a MSI 6330 K7TPro, and a ATI Rage Fury MAxx on a 300W PS.
<br>1) CPU is great: I love the price ($100) and the performance ;)
<br>2) The mobo is damn good! The cpu got overheated: it reaches a temperature
of 117F (47C) and the mobo turned itself off. I dunno the temp specs, but
<br>added an extra case fan, I got temperature around 109F (43C). Now it
is stable. I suppose the temperature should be lower, around 87F (35C)
<br>3) DO NOT GET THE GOLDEN ORB. It is an abortion of Fan. Get a better
one. It can crash the CPU. IMHO it does not provide enought cooling for
<br>the cpu. I'm trying to get the Chrome ORB that is suppose to be better
(check out <A
HREF="http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/corb/">http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/corb/</A>)
<br>4) the video card .... well on paper is great and.... that is
it! I got problem with XFree 86 (I'm new with Suse6.4). Xfree86 3.3.6 hangs
the
<br>WHOLE system.
<br>XFree 4.0 is partially working. XFree86 4.0.1 shows me some sugar....
but it is still not perfect. I got it up and runnig at the 24bpp 1600x1200
but I'm not
<br>impressed/happy yet. I'm going to tweek the video frequency tho and
I'll see. I'm not a gaming fan either but for $130 I want something more
<br>"friendly"....
<br>On the side, the drivers for Windoze98 SUCKS big time. I wasn;'t able
to get them installed. I got the new one from ATI, but it looks like there
is a
<br>conflict with the mobo drivers: after a whole sunny sunday missed (something
rare here in Boston) I got it to run properly only ONCE.Now I'm trying
to
<br>figure out what is wrong:damn it I want it to get me more that 480x640
@ 16 colors!
<p>So here is my $0.02
<br>If anybody else can give me other news on this systems please, speak
up!
<p>Thx
<p>Max
<p>baghdady wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have an Xpert 2000 on my machine and I have recentlely
<br>installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 with XFree 3.3.6. Until now, I
<br>haven't been able to get the graphics card to work and I am
<br>using the VGA16 server instead (very ugly). I have tried all the
<br>cards in the list in both XF86Setup that have the words "rage"
<br>or "xpert" in them without any luck. I have tried to change the
<br>XFConfig file manually following the suggestions of some web
<br>pages and some friends without any luck either. I even installed
<br>the "XFCom-r128-glibc2.1-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm" mentioned above and
<br>following the steps in the web page without any success.
<br>I gather from your emails that you *all* have managed to install
<br>this card (even though some of you have some problems). Could
<br>somebody *please* tell me what he/she did to install the card?
<br>Any suggestions are of great help.
<br>Thanx
<p>-----------------------------------------------------------
<p>Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
<br>Up to 100 minutes free!
<br><a href="http://www.keen.com">http://www.keen.com</a></blockquote>
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Sawyer Road
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From: Steven Fosdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cannot get into Gnome
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:22:38 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mbortis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anson Ng wrote:
>
>> I just installed Redhat Linux 6.2 onto my new PC. I use a Voodoo3 2000
>> w/16MB video card. But after I login, and type "startx" in my shell
>> prompt, a little portion (about 10%) on top of the GUI screen shows up.
>> And when I move the mousedown to the black region of hte screen, it
>> disappears, i.e. everything is visible only at the top 10% of the screen
>> after switching to the GUI screen. What would the problem be and how I
>> could solve it??
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Anson
>
> Ummm pushing it too hard? A little over zelouse? Turn the silly thing down
> in resolution then back up step by step. X is damned powerful enought o
> blow up monitors. Yup....stress the internals and tube and boof.. a $400
> paperwieght.
I agree with the above - from your description it sounds like the monitor
is failing to sync correctly to the output from your video card becase one
of the horizontal or vertical scan rates is either too high or too low.
One thing you may find useful is to hold down Ctrl+Alt and hit keypad plus
and keypad minus which may cycle though various modes until you find one
that works.
The best thing though is to get the proper parameters for your monitor
(look it up on the web if you havn't got the spec) and either put them in
the CF86Config file in the appropriate place or use one of the GUI
X config tools and tell the tool those values when asked. The ones you
are looking for are the Vsync and Hsync (or Vscan and Hscan)
frequency ranges.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: scsi bus resets with aic7xxx
Date: 28 Aug 2000 11:32:40 -0400
vlado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I've run up on a "cute" problem with receiving scsi bus resets under
> heavy load.
If you've already got current drivers, then check cable lengths.
> Hardware details
> ------------
> Motherboard - ASUS P2B-DS SCPI Rev1012
> Award bios v4.51p6
> with onboard Adaptec 7890 bios v.2.11
>
> "HD" - ZERO-D 400 IDE-RAID system, firmware v.2.2W
You don't say what kind of SCSI bus you have (Ultra, Ultra-Wide,
Ultra-2, etc.)
Cable length limits for non-LVD busses can be pretty short:
Fast-SCSI: 6m
Ultra-SCSI: 3m
Ultra-Wide SCSI: 1.5m
Ultra2 (LVD): 12m
Ultra3 (LVD): 12m
If you mix different device types on a single bus, your overall limit is
the tightest limit of all the devices.
So, if you mix a Fast-SCSI device (like a CD-ROM) and an Ultra-Wide
device, your limit is 1.5m.
The reason you may only notice this under heavy load is because your
host adapter will switch bus speeds to the slower speeds when accessing
slower devices. Tehcnically, (in my hypothetical scenario) the limit is
6m when accessing the Fast-SCSI devices and 1.5m when accessing the
Ultra-Wide devices.
In reality, however, this doesn't really work. Even if the Ultra-Wide
devices are close to the host adapter on the bus, the terminators are
separated by more than 1.5m.
I found this exact problem on my system. I've got a 2940UW card with an
Ultra-Wide hard drive, a Zip drive, a CD-ROM and a tape drive.
Normally, they'd all work well together. But when accessing both the
Zip and hard drive at once (copying a lot of files), I'd start to get
errors and bus resets.
Moving the slow devices to a separate bus (I installed a 1542B card that
I had lying around) fixed the problem. Now the Ultra-Wide devices is on
a bus all by itself, where the cable is shorter than 1.5m. And the
three Fast-Wide devices are on a separate bus, where the cable is
shorter than 6m.
-- David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CyberPro IGS 2010 Driver
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:20:58 GMT
Hi, I've recently acquired a system that comes with a IGS 2010 video
chipset onboard. I have been unable to configure XFree to run it on
resolutions 640X480 and above as it would lock up my system. I can only
run X at a resolution of 320X240.
My system is running RedHat Linux 6.2 distribution.
Any help on where to get the SVGA driver would be appreciated.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: where can i find epson laser epl-5700L driver ?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:29:25 GMT
This was discussed in Juli 00, somoene linked to
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=158569 but this
site is for the Epson epl-5700 and not for the 5700L. I tried the ljet4
driver, but it doesn't work, only the red light is blinking, wehen I try
to print. Also an # echo -e "Hallo\f" >/dev/lp0 makes the red control
led blinking. but nothing more habpens.
The Kernel recognized the Printer corectly:
Aug 28 15:48:07 pyramide kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP]
Aug 28 15:48:07 pyramide kernel: parport0: Printer, EPSON EPL-5700L
Aug 28 15:48:07 pyramide kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling).
ECP + EPP are turnd off in the BIOS.
Does anyone noes more about that Printer or has anyone got that Printer
to work?
I am using mandrake linux! and
[root@pyramide florian]# gs -v
Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50 (1998-9-16)
Thanks for your Help!
P.S. The Printer itself and the Connection to the PC seems to bee
correct. Win is Printing fine!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SiS 5597/5598 - resolution
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:53:09 GMT
Posting a reply to my original post here... i figured it out now.
I had to go to the BIOS and add more RAM to the Video Card.
Thanks to Mile Davidovic for letting me know of this....
In article <8oagnh$l6u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Im currently running RH6.2 with a SiS 5597/5598
> video card (yeah, i know it is crap, but we are
> beyong that :P). Anyway... got Xwindows to run
> and everything, however i can only get Xwindows
> to work with the resolution of 640x400. Is there
> something i can do about this?
>
> Sorry if this question has been answered
> already. If it has and an answer has already
> been posted... let me know of that post and i'll
> be happy to read it.
>
> If you'd like to e-mail a response that'd be
> great. Thanks.
>
> Nick
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linksys question...
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:30:03 -0700
Dances with Turtles wrote:
>
> I'm curious. I bought a Linksys 100LNETX V4.1 and returned it as I
> could not get it to work.
>
> What did you do to get it to work? Not to sound like arrogant or
> anything, but it would be nice to see people post their solutions as
> not all recommendations are posted. This helps people like me say,
> "Geez, was I really that dumb and didn't try that?" :)
Well, since you returned the card, I guess it is a moot point, but did
you try the latest tulip driver? (The following courtesy of David A. De
Graaf) Full directions are at:
http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html
Briefly, you do this:
# Transfer the Scyld PCI Netdriver package
rpm -i ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/network/netdriver-2.0.src.rpm
# Build the binary version for your kernel
cd /usr/src/{redhat,TurboLinux}/
rpm -bb SPECS/netdriver.spec
# Now install it your newly built package.
rpm -i --force RPMS/i386/netdriver-2.0-*.i386.rpm
And then in /etc/conf.modules (or modules.conf - sigh)
alias eth0 tulip
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: Eric Dondelinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Abit KT7 / Asus V6800 Deluxe boot probs
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:13:54 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I've just installed this brand new machine with Thunderbird 800, 256mb
ram,
Abit KT7 mainboard, Asus V6800 Deluxe (GeForce), 300W power supply, etc.
etc.
(no complete system, it's built from individually chosen parts).
Unfortunately, the bloody thing won't even boot a simple DOS, the only
thing
that came even halfway to running was tom's rootboot, after removing
everything
but the VGA card, floppy drive and a single 20gb eide drive (samsung).
BIOS settings are conservative, nothing fancy.
Any ideas what might be wrong?
I still have to try booting with a different VGA card, but I'm somewhat
bothered that this combination doesn't run immediately...
Greetings, Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop
Date: 28 Aug 2000 17:26:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:32:26 GMT, X-Man wrote:
>Ok that was Virtual Screen and I delete all lines in /etc/X11/XF86Config and
>its not helping what should i do???
If you deleted *all* the lines in /etc/X11/XF86Config, then nothing will
work!
The relevant section from my XF86Config is below; take a look at it,
take a look at yours, see if you can figure out what you need to change.
Section "Screen"
Driver "SVGA"
Device "Primary-Card"
Monitor "Primary-Monitor"
DefaultColorDepth 32
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "640x480" "400x300"
EndSubSection
EndSection
The virtual screen will always be 1024x768, even if I press
Ctrl-Alt-Minus and run at 400x300. There is no way around this. If you
run your monitor at 800x600, then make sure that "800x600" is the first
mode listed on the Modes line, and remove all references to higher
resolutions.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help With Correctly Mounting SCSI CDROM Writer
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:25:37 -0500
It turns out that this is a laptop pcmcia problem. The pcmcia scsi card
script, /etc/pcmcia/scsi.opt, mounted the cdrom writer to the default
setting of /mnt/cdrom.
The line in the /etc/pcmcia/scsi.opt script reads as follows:
MOUNTPT="/mnt/cdrom"
This line needs to correspond to the fstab setting.
Hope this helps someone else from spending many hours trying to find the
script.
Brian
brian wrote:
> Problem: when an external scsi cdrom writer is attached (through a
> pcmcia card), the
> system mounts the device, upon initial startup, to the same mount
> directory of the internal cdrom player, using RedHat 6.2, kernel
> 2.2.16-3. For example, both the cdrom and the external cdrom writer
> mount to /mnt/cdrom even though fstab clearly shows /mnt/cdromscsi as
> the mount directory for the scsi.
>
> Not sure if this is a /etc/rc.sysinit script problem or some other
> problem.
>
> What can I do to resolve this dual mounting problem?
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From: brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help With Correctly Mounting SCSI CDROM Writer
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:25:40 -0500
It turns out that this is a laptop pcmcia problem. The pcmcia scsi card
script, /etc/pcmcia/scsi.opt, mounted the cdrom writer to the default
setting of /mnt/cdrom.
The line in the /etc/pcmcia/scsi.opt script reads as follows:
MOUNTPT="/mnt/cdrom"
This line needs to correspond to the fstab setting.
Hope this helps someone else from spending many hours trying to find the
script.
Brian
brian wrote:
> Problem: when an external scsi cdrom writer is attached (through a
> pcmcia card), the
> system mounts the device, upon initial startup, to the same mount
> directory of the internal cdrom player, using RedHat 6.2, kernel
> 2.2.16-3. For example, both the cdrom and the external cdrom writer
> mount to /mnt/cdrom even though fstab clearly shows /mnt/cdromscsi as
> the mount directory for the scsi.
>
> Not sure if this is a /etc/rc.sysinit script problem or some other
> problem.
>
> What can I do to resolve this dual mounting problem?
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From: Jens Stegemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip100 Mount Problems - /dev/sda4 not a valid block device
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:35:54 +0200
Am Sun, 27 Aug 2000 hat Justo M. Casablanca geschrieben:
>Thank you so much for your quick response. I did as you said, but I still
>get the same message at the command line (i.e. "mount: /dev/sda4 is not a
>valid block device"), and I also still get the same set of error messages
>in /var/log/messages as before (i.e. copied-and-pasted into the original
>posting). Any more ideas ?
>
Try to mount /dev/sda1. I had the same problems. Sometimes it works with 1
sometimes with 4. It seems to depend on what other modules you have allready
linked to your kernel when starting ppa.
Your's
Jens
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trent Piepho)
Subject: Re: Sony SDT-7000 DDS2 problem
Date: 28 Aug 2000 10:07:18 -0700
In article <8odp99$3od$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sandro Poppi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I'm having trouble setting the density code of my Sony SDT-7000
>SCSI dat-streamer to more than DDS.
We have a SDT-9000 DDS3 drive and the density code reported by mt doesn't seem
to mean anything. Even though it says DDS density, I still get 12+ GB on a
DDS3 tape.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xiangdong shi)
Subject: Re: Pizza box ATX cases?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:41:54 +0000 (UTC)
AOpen makes a slim case which is slightly less 4" thick - not exactly
a pizza box but pretty close. I saw it on www.lilolinux.com for <$50.
Xiangdong
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From: "Manuel Jander Jansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Parallel InkJet Printer?
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:52:35 -0400
Hello,
Let me recommend you the Epson Stylus Color 670. I have one and it works
very good on Linux, supporting upto 1440x720dpi (the same as under
Winblows). I have it installed on a Linux Box Running the follwing:
Debian 2.3 (woody) Kernel 2.4test7 MagicFilter Ghostscript 6.0 Samba
server
The Epson ESCP/2 printer language is well known, thats why they are that
well supported.
bye.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael J. Sherman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting ready to buy an inkjet printer. I need one that can do
> about 600dpi, color, and have a parallel hook-up. I'm running RedHat
> Linux 6.2.
>
> Can anyone recommend one that is sure to work?
>
> Thanks, Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xiangdong shi)
Subject: Problem with GeForce 2 GTS
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:55:40 +0000 (UTC)
I haven't had luck installing a AOpen PA256Pro video card (Geforce 2 GTS
32MB DDR). I upgraded the X to 4.0.1. According to documentation the
X server should run using nv_drv.o. But on my machine X server complains "no
device found". The error message shows the correct driver "nv" has
been loaded. What went wrong? Thanks for your help.
Xiangdong
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