Linux-Hardware Digest #490, Volume #14 Fri, 16 Mar 01 20:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Ed Blackman)
Linux Support for ATAPI CD-R/W Drives (p e a r c e)
Linux+USB+Tape ("Murat Okyar")
Re: Looking for Phoneline networking help (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9rique?= Vernhes)
Rambus - You reap what you sow! (jtnews)
Re: Looking for Phoneline networking help (Aaron)
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? ("NewsReader2")
D-Link DWL-650 can't bring up interface "Delaying..." (Joe)
Re: Cirrus Logic gd5426 1M and 16bpp crashes. (Hugh Gibson)
Re: 10 gig disk in a 500 meg BIOS (David Efflandt)
Re: Setting ISA modem in Red Hat 7 (Vladimir Florinski)
Two OS, two hard drives, one computer ("Franklin Cardoza")
Re: Fasttrack 100 - compilling new kernel ("Loz")
Re: promise fasttrak 100 + suse 7.0 problems ("Loz")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Blackman)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:39:14 -0000
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:09:27 GMT, Ron Reaugh wrote:
>NewsReader2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message ...
>>"Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:7g5n6.6016$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> Nope, just keep good backups like is required with a single HD.
>>
>>Not good enough at 3:00pm the next day!
>>
>>Just keep to a single drive for greater reliability and stability.
>>
>>Choose 10K+ SCSI to improve workstation performance
>
>All nonsense. Nothing supplants a good backup scheme at 3:00 or at
>any other time. Fast inexpensive EIDE RAID 0 plus an appropriate
>backup/checkpoint scheme is just as reliable as a SCSI solution.
Because a single drive failure in RAID 0 array takes down the entire
array, the probability of failure of a RAID 0 array is the *sum* of the
probability of failures of all of the drives in the array. So a single
drive *is* more reliable than a RAID 0 array. Assuming drives with
similar failure rates, a RAID 0 array is X times more prone to failure
than a single drive, where X is the number of drives in the array.
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (p e a r c e)
Subject: Linux Support for ATAPI CD-R/W Drives
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:40:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How good is it? Should I just stick with SCSI?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Murat Okyar")
Subject: Linux+USB+Tape
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:43:31 +0000 (UTC)
Hi,
Does anybody know any USB tape backup system
(30GB+ would be nice :-), that would work with Linux?
I would be glad to hear about your experience
with Linux+USB+Tape...
Thanks,
Murat
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9rique?= Vernhes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Looking for Phoneline networking help
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:46:26 -0800
I connect to the internet using a DSL modem. Currently, one of the Win
98 PCs is the one connected to the internet through an ethernet
interface. It is connected to the home phone wire through a USB device
from Linksys (worked right out of the box - no IRQ issues like with PCI
cards!!!)
It turns out that the IP traffic from the computers operates in a
different frequency range than voice, so all we had to do is plug in our
cable into our phone jack, and it worked.
Our problem is that windows 98 is not stable enough to be a gateway
server for internet connection sharing - Linux is soooo much better - so
our problem remained, how do we put the linux machine on the phone
network.
As it turn out, I finally found a device sold by Linksys (again!) that
is called a phoneline ethernet bridge. It should allow me to do the
following:
have an ethernet card in the Linux machine (I know these work)
connect this ethernet port from Linux to the Linksys bridge, then
connect the bridge to a nearby phone outlet, et voila, my linux box will
now join the network.
If this works, I will connect the linux box to the internet with another
ethernet card, and the DSL modem, and use the linux box as my
gateway/router.
I'll post if it works.
Fred.
enkidu wrote:
> Fr�d�rique Vernhes wrote:
> >
> > - I have 2 other Pentium running Win 98. These 2 pentiums
> > are networked using our home phoneline. We used Linksys
> > USB phoneline network adapters. Works great.
> >
> How do these work? Do they send IP packets over the phone
> wires, probably using a different pair to the phones? How
> do you connect them to the Internet?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
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From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Rambus - You reap what you sow!
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:44:59 GMT
I am DELIGHTED that the courts
have shot down Rambus' bogus patent
claims!
http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-5162159-0.html?tag=ltnc
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From: Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Looking for Phoneline networking help
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:54:24 GMT
As far as I am aware there is no support yet for cards based on the
PNA2.0 standard. These cards are based on the broadcom chip. No card
manufacturers have written Linux drivers for these cards.
You can get an older card based on the older PNA 1meg standard. I
believe people have gotten the card from AMD to work and maybe the
Diamond card. PNA 2.0 cards are supposed to be backward compatible.
I keep hoping for drivers though (fingers crossed).
On 15 Mar 2001 12:41:51 -0500, Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Fr�d�rique Vernhes wrote:
>> >
>> > - I have 2 other Pentium running Win 98. These 2 pentiums
>> > are networked using our home phoneline. We used Linksys
>> > USB phoneline network adapters. Works great.
>> >
>> How do these work? Do they send IP packets over the phone
>> wires, probably using a different pair to the phones? How
>> do you connect them to the Internet?
>
>As I understand it, they use the same 2 pair as your phone lines, but use a
>frequency above or below human speech, so that it can coexist on the same wire.
>DSL is sent the same way, which is why you have all the restrictions about who
>can get DSL (ie, length from office, only travelling over copper wire, etc.).
>The encoding within the frequency should be the same as ethernet normally uses
>over UTP (unshielded twisted pair). Because of using part of the frequency
>spectrum, and the fact that voice grade wiring is cat3 (and even then in the
>real world you probably have a lot of sub-cat3 wiring) and not cat5 spec (which
>100Mbs uses), is why you you only get 10Mbs max. Also going over a USB
>connection is another potential bottleneck to speed. Obviously, if you only
>use a home network for sharing an internet connection, than it won't matter
>that you can only get 10Mbs, unless you have a T3 connection to your house.
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From: "NewsReader2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:01:17 GMT
"Ed Blackman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:09:27 GMT, Ron Reaugh wrote:
> >NewsReader2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message ...
> >>"Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>news:7g5n6.6016$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>> Nope, just keep good backups like is required with a single HD.
> >>
> >>Not good enough at 3:00pm the next day!
> >>
> >>Just keep to a single drive for greater reliability and stability.
> >>
> >>Choose 10K+ SCSI to improve workstation performance
> >
> >All nonsense. Nothing supplants a good backup scheme at 3:00 or at
> >any other time. Fast inexpensive EIDE RAID 0 plus an appropriate
> >backup/checkpoint scheme is just as reliable as a SCSI solution.
>
> Because a single drive failure in RAID 0 array takes down the entire
> array, the probability of failure of a RAID 0 array is the *sum* of the
> probability of failures of all of the drives in the array. So a single
> drive *is* more reliable than a RAID 0 array. Assuming drives with
> similar failure rates, a RAID 0 array is X times more prone to failure
> than a single drive, where X is the number of drives in the array.
>
> Ed
Yes Ed, you are right.
Do not forget the additonal complexities that RAID-0 adds to the
hardware/firmware/software/drivers etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: D-Link DWL-650 can't bring up interface "Delaying..."
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:33:57 GMT
Now I'm less sure what the problem is specifically, but trying to ifup
wvlan0 causes a
"Delaying wvlan0 initialization".
/etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start gives the following in
/var/log/messages:
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.25
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: kernel build: 2.2.16-3smp #1 SMP Mon
Jun 19 19:00:35 EDT 2000
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] [apm]
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: PCI routing table version 1.0 at
0xfbde0
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: Intel PCIC probe:
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: TI 1420 rev 00 PCI-to-CardBus at slot
00:03, mem 0x68000000
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: host opts [0]: [ring] [serial pci &
irq] [pci irq 11] [lat 32/32] [bus 32/34]
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: host opts [1]: [ring] [serial pci &
irq] [pci irq 11] [lat 32/32] [bus 35/37]
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon kernel: ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,7,9,10 PCI
status changes
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon cardmgr[1788]: starting, version is 3.1.25
Mar 16 18:28:46 falcon cardmgr[1788]: watching 2 sockets
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon cardmgr[1788]: initializing socket 1
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff:
clean.
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon cardmgr[1788]: socket 1: D-Link DWL-650
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon cardmgr[1788]: executing: 'modprobe wvlan_cs
port_type=3 network_name WLAN'
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: WaveLAN/IEEE PCMCIA driver
v1.0.6
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: (c) Andreas Neuhaus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon cardmgr[1788]: + Note: /etc/conf.modules is
more recent than /lib/modules/2.2.16-3smp/modules.dep
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0140-0x04ff:
excluding 0x300-0x307 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0308-0x0377: clean.
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0380-0x04cf: clean.
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x04d8-0x04ff: clean.
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 4,
io 0x0180-0x01bf
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: Registered netdevice eth0
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: MAC address on eth0 is 00 40
05 ac 07 1f
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: This is LinkSys/D-Link card,
not a Wavelan IEEE card :-(
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: You may want report firmare revision
(0x7) and what the card support.
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: I will try to make it work, but you
should look for a better driver.
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: Found firmware 0x7 (vendor 6)
- Firmware capabilities : 1-0-0-0-1
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: Valid channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon cardmgr[1788]: executing: './network start
eth0'
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon modprobe: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more
recent than /lib/modules/2.2.16-3smp/modules.dep
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon last message repeated 2 times
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon cardmgr[1788]: + /usr/local/sbin/iwconfig eth0
mode auto
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon cardmgr[1788]: + SIOCSIWMODE: Invalid argument
Mar 16 18:28:47 falcon modprobe: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more
recent than /lib/modules/2.2.16-3smp/modules.dep
Mar 16 18:28:48 falcon last message repeated 14 times
Mar 16 18:28:48 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: MAC address on eth0 is 00 40
05 ac 07 1f
Mar 16 18:28:48 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: This is LinkSys/D-Link card,
not a Wavelan IEEE card :-(
Mar 16 18:28:48 falcon kernel: You may want report firmare revision
(0x7) and what the card support.
Mar 16 18:28:48 falcon kernel: I will try to make it work, but you
should look for a better driver.
Mar 16 18:28:48 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: Found firmware 0x7 (vendor 6)
- Firmware capabilities : 1-0-0-0-1
Mar 16 18:28:48 falcon kernel: wvlan_cs: Valid channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11
and trying network start gives this in /var/log/messages:
Mar 16 18:27:39 falcon sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0
Mar 16 18:27:39 falcon sysctl: net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1
Mar 16 18:27:39 falcon sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_always_defrag = 0
Mar 16 18:27:39 falcon sysctl: kernel.sysrq = 0
Mar 16 18:27:39 falcon network: Setting network parameters succeeded
Mar 16 18:27:39 falcon ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon kernel: WaveLAN init_module(): doing device
probing (bad !)
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon kernel: Specify base addresses while loading
module to correct the problem
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon kernel: WaveLAN init_module(): no device found
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon insmod: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more recent
than /lib/modules/2.2.16-3smp/modules.dep
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.16-3smp/net/wavelan.o:
init_module: Device or resource busy
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.16-3smp/net/wavelan.o:
insmod wvlan0 failed
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon ifup: Delaying wvlan0 initialization.
Mar 16 18:27:40 falcon network: Bringing up interface wvlan0 failed
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From: Hugh Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic gd5426 1M and 16bpp crashes.
Date: 16 Mar 2001 18:49:14 -0500
m.c.dooligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone understand linear addressing and vintage video cards?
> My card: Cirrus Logic gd5426 with 1024k, vesa local bus (yes. on a
> i486dx2)
> X-windows will run at 16bpp with linear addressing, membase 0x4e00000
What this means is that the video card is mapping to memory directly, at
the top of memory space, using the vesa local bus a LOT.
'linear addressing'
simply means Linux is using the 32-bit flat memory model, rather than
segment-swapping (non-protected mode) that older 286's had to use.
I had an identical setup with this running.. and it worked great!
The VESA spec is a bit strange though... make sure you are not
overclocking the vesa bus. Even re-positioning the vesa card into
another vesa slot can have profound improvements if there is a problem
The bus should be running at 33MHz or less. The VESA cards can be
a little troublesome seating.. make sure it is in properly.
> but completely locks the machine up when I run any decent application
> (like Netscape).
And not when you run 'non-linear' mode?... it's not bad memory all along?
try running memtest86 to make sure all your RAM is OK.
http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86/
Hope this helps. Hugh.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: 10 gig disk in a 500 meg BIOS
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:49:50 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Rick Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've read the hard drive howto, and I am still unclear. Here is my
>question:
>
>Does it matter that the BIOS in my Nec Versa E (circa 1992) can't
>handle a 10 gig drive if I am using Linux exclusively on the machine?
>The way I read the howto, all I have to do is make a 5meg first
>partition as the root. Is this correct? If I make the first partition 5
>meg, will the installation system find another partition and use it if
>I mount the second partition with /root as the mount point?
A primary boot partition of around 16 MB entirely below 1024 cyl should
do. This gives you room for compiling and installing alternate
kernels. Once the kernel loads it has its own software BIOS that can
handle larger drives.
>Need I even do all this if I am only using Linux? Can I, in other
>words, make the first partition 5 gig and still expect the BIOS to find
>the master boot record in the first 1024 cylinders?
>
> Use reply-to address.
Unfortunately your reply-to address does not show up while composing a
reply.
Since you are only using Linux, you would put LILO in the MBR (which is at
the beginning of the disk and certainly below 1024 cyl, since I think the
MBR is only 512K). LILO and the kernel (in /boot) are what need to be
found using system BIOS. You might need to use the linear lilo option
(whatever the large hard disk HOWTO says).
When I had a 386 BIOS that did not support drive translation, I used a
Promise EideMAX add on card that worked with my existing drive controller
(or can add 3rd & 4th drive). It was $40 (1/2 the price of BIOS upgrade).
This allowed me to use large drives automatically without having to pay
attention to the large drive HOWTO (way back in Slackware 2.0) and have
never had to use linear mode.
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From: Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting ISA modem in Red Hat 7
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:01:00 -0700
george wrote:
>
> I have two modems. One is a software modem Motorola SM 56k (PCI) and the other
> one is an a hardware US Robotics Sportster 33.6K (ISA). I was expecting to have
> problems with the software modem, but I thought that the hardware modem would be
>
> recognized.
>
> The hardware modem has two sets of jumpers. One set for setting the COM ports
> and
> the other for setting the IRQ. Being a total novice to Linux, I thought that I
> should set
> the COM to Plug and Play and the IRQ to 7. I chose 7 because under Windows, IRQ
> 7 was free.
I used to have this modem before I switched to a modern PCI model (also 3Com).
The manual is incorrect, I think: you cannot set "COM ports" because they don't
exist.
>
> My questions are:
> How should I set the COM and the IRQ on this hardware modem such as to be
> recognized by Linux? When setting the jumpers should I consider the COM and the
> IRQ
> of the other modem (under Windows)?
>
Remove all jumpers to put it in PnP mode. Then proceed as usual (since you read
the docs). With the older kernels (2.2), use isapnp, with the newer (2.4), I
suppose you should write into the appropriate /proc entry.
--
Vladimir
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Reply-To: "Franklin Cardoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Franklin Cardoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware
Subject: Two OS, two hard drives, one computer
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:21:28 -0800
I hope these are the right newsgroups to post such a question.
I was wondering if it's possible to have two hard drives with two different
OS,
Windows95 and Linux, on the same computer. If it is possible, how?
Thanks for any help.
Frank C.
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From: "Loz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fasttrack 100 - compilling new kernel
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:55:36 -0800
Rumour has it that Promise won't open up their drivers because the Fasttrak,
which is supposed to be a RAID device does its RAID in software. To quote
Andre Hendick (one of the kernel IDE developers)
'Yep, until they realize that their simple IP is nothing, and want to
export the raid calls to the Linux Raid Engine, you are "stuck".'
What Promise supply is a big fat o file and a bit of C to wrapper the PCI
calls. I've had a go at upgrading the wrapper to the new 2.4 PCI spec
(basically replace pci_bios with pci_...) but I'm no good at C - I don't
think there is enough information there anyway. They also supply a broken
wrapper to the proc filesystem.
If you do get some joy with this I'd love to know as I'm stuck with 2.2.18
until an upgrade path is available. The PC that that is in is earmarked as a
proxy server, and I want to play with iptables...
cheers
Loz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"Jan Kov��" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:987kqh$a3n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello.
> I have Fasttrack 100 working on a Redhat7. I need to kompile 2.4.2 kernel.
I
> have not the source code for the Fasttrack100 and Promise is not willing
to
> send it. So I have only the compiled drivers that are available from
promise
> home page. How can I compile the new kernel? I have tried it. It started
to
> boot, but it has ended with Kernel panic
> Last free rows are:
> request_module[block-major-8]: Root fs not mounted
> VFS: Cannot open root device "801" or 08: 01
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
>
> I am sure that I have correct boot option in Lilo.
>
> How can I compile the kernel with the Fasttrack enabled?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jan Kovar
>
>
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From: "Loz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: promise fasttrak 100 + suse 7.0 problems
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:02:20 -0800
I got it working with SuSE. There is a set of compilable/linkable bits at
ftp://ftp.promise.com/Controllers/IDE/FastTrak100/Linux/LinuxBETA
They only work with 2.2.x series kernels (not sure what the earliest is).
There is no yast compliant stuff here - you'll have to compile and link it
yourself - the tricky part of this is you will need to recompile your kernel
if you don't have the required bits turned on (mainly SCSI - the controller
is made available through the SCSI code - because the IDE code does not
allow drives to be dynamically discovered)
cheers
Loz
"ogni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98m0mf$rcd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi !!!
> dose anybody know, if this raidcontroller runs with suse linux ?
>
> when i run the setup suse can�t dedect my two harddisks.
>
> there exists a module for redhat (http://support.promise.com/Support/) but
> can i use it for suse ??
> thx for help
>
>
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