Linux-Hardware Digest #567, Volume #13 Tue, 12 Sep 00 19:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Q: MB -- Abit KT7-RAID against Asus A7V (Andrey Vlasov)
XF86Config (Alain Monvoisin)
Q: DVD RAM -- Creative drive (Andrey Vlasov)
IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE SOUND THROUH AMR ? (fumiyosi motobayasi)
Supported largest IDE hd size? (NTK)
Re: SCSI Tape Drive Question (Andrey Vlasov)
Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board) (Michael Hohensee)
Re: SB 16 ISA PnP: Alsa ok, Kernel not??? (Juergen Heinzl)
Samsung SF5800p Multi-functional printer under linux? (Elvis C Chen)
Re: HP CDWriter SCSI support (Duane)
Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board) ("Robert")
Re: Supported largest IDE hd size? (Andrey Vlasov)
Re: Memory questions, Device questions; Remove LILO on RH6.2 (Chuck)
Re: which cd-rw is best for linux red hat 6.2? (Duane)
Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board) (Jan Klaussner)
Re: promise controller ultra66 problems (James Richard Tyrer)
Re: Still not all memory detected even with 'mem = ' ("kyle matteson")
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: MB -- Abit KT7-RAID against Asus A7V
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:07:35 -0700
Hi there,
I'd like to ask share an information of people who have experience with
this two MBs.
I never used Abit motherboards before but heard from people that they
good.
I believe them, that KT7-RAID MB really good - it has all what I'd like
to have but
luck of any experience with Abit push me to drop this message in
newsgroup.
Before today I tried to stay with Asus and I never had any problem with
their
equipment. But till now they do not have Athlon (Thunderbird) MB which
had 6PCI
and did not had on board sound - sorry I am not normal customer and I
don't like
all-in-one solutions. I was looking for an option and could not find
better MB than
Abit KT7-RAID. By the way could anybody answer on Question "Is 1.5GB RAM
limitation
for KT133 chipset?" as MB manufactures offer MAX 1.5GB RAM for this
chipset.
Could somebody experienced in Servers offer another better solution
than these
two MB? I will happy to hear "what recommended and what is not
recommended and
why it is not recommended".
Any information will very appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Andrey
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From: Alain Monvoisin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XF86Config
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:09:49 +0200
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Hello,
Is someone able to give me the H. and V. frequencies, and bandwith, for
my HP Ergo Ultra VGA - D1196A - 15" monitor ?
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: DVD RAM -- Creative drive
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:10:21 -0700
Hi there,
Does anybody own Creative DVD RAM and successfully use it in Linux?
Is this drive IDE or SCSI?
(there is no info on their web about interface)
Thanks
Andrey
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From: fumiyosi motobayasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE SOUND THROUH AMR ?
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 05:20:04 +0900
Hi
Does anyone know Is it possible to use AMR ?
Mobo is GIGABYTE GA-6VX7-4X (VIA Apollo Pro 133A + VT82C686A).
Thank you.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: NTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Supported largest IDE hd size?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:28:44 GMT
What is the supported largest IDE harddrive size in the current linux
2.2.x?
THanks
--
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI Tape Drive Question
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:38:17 -0700
> Also, is this a
> kosher way of loading the driver? Is it ok just to put the insmod
> command in one of the startup scripts?
You should put it into /etc/conf.modules or /etc/modules.conf - depends on
kernel version.
Read man insmod/rmmod/modprobe for more info.
Andrey
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From: Michael Hohensee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:04:27 -0400
I'm having problems properly compiling a kernel + modules for my RH 6.2
system, running on an AMD T-bird with an Abit KA-7 motherboard. Before
booting up for the first time, I had to recompile the kernel to prevent
it from attempting to turn off the nonexistant PIII identifier number
(which always resulted in a kernel panic). The only thing I changed in
the default kernel configuration was the Processor Type & Features menu
via 'make xconfig'. The machine now boots successfully, but is unable
to insmod any of the modules in /lib/modules. It first runs into a huge
sequence of depmod errors:
<Snip>
Sep 11 12:03:20 G22-71 rc.sysinit: Remounting root filesystem in
read-write mode succeeded
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod:
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/coda.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/fat.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hfs.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hpfs.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/lockd.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/minix.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/ncpfs.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfs.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfsd.o
Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/romfs.o
...
<Etc>
It does this for every module in /lib/modules. So naturally:
<Snip>
Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 autofs: autofs startup succeeded
Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: starting automounter version
3.1.4, path = /misc, maptype = file, mapname = /etc/auto.misc
Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 random: Initializing random number generator
succeeded
Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o:
insmod autofs failed
Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: /misc: mount failed!
...
<Etc>
Interestingly enough, the system works fairly well, although anything
which requires the loading of a module (autofs, lockd, or sound) doesn't
work. Recompiling the modules doesn't appear to change anything, except
perhaps to generate more unusable modules.
Has anyone ever run into this problem before, or been able to
successfully install and test Linux on a system like mine? (AMD T-Bird
700MHz KA-7 board) If so, how was it corrected, or which distribution
did you use?
Thanks very much,
--
Michael Hohensee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SB 16 ISA PnP: Alsa ok, Kernel not???
Date: 12 Sep 2000 21:34:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank Steiner wrote:
>Dean Plude wrote:
>>
>> modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=3 mpu_io=0x330
>> note you must pass parm to this module to work
>
>Well, that should be done automatically by the entries
>in modules.conf, but even with the parameters directly
>passed to modprobe, it does not work... :-(
[-]
Lacking one more free PCI slot I'd some fun with that
card too. Mind I've not distribution, but here's what
I've got.
PnP support -- disabled in the kernel as well as in the
BIOS ( yup ). The upcoming 2.4 seems to have better support
but for now I cannot see any gain.
Used pnpdump to create /etc/isapnp.conf and edited it
and modules.conf looks like this ( irq 7 is being used
by my parallel port ) and isapnp is run in some startup
script of course.
options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
My modules.dep ( only the sound related parts ) looks
like this ..
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/adlib_card.o: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sound.o \
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/opl3.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/awe_wave.o: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sound.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/mpu401.o: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sound.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/opl3.o: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sound.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sound.o \
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/uart401.o \
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/soundcore.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sound.o: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/soundlow.o \
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/soundcore.o
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/soundcore.o:
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/soundlow.o:
/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/uart401.o: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sound.o
So far no problems anymore.
Ta',
Juergen
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From: Elvis C Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Samsung SF5800p Multi-functional printer under linux?
Date: 12 Sep 2000 21:47:08 GMT
greetings,
I'd like to purchase a Samsung SF5800P multi-function printer, mainly for
its fax and laser printer capability. However, I wasn't able to find much
information about it on the web, other than those on the samsung-web site:
http://www.samsungcanada.com/products/offauto/SF5800.htm
It is stated that the Emulation for the printer is GDI.
Not even PCL5, unless it does support PCl but not being stated on the web.
So, I'm assuming that it won't work under linux since, as far as I know,
linux doesn't support GDI printer yet.
Can someone please confirm this? I'll really appreciate any insight
before I put my money down.
thanx in advance,
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP CDWriter SCSI support
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:57:38 -0700
Chris Rankin wrote:
>
> Duane wrote:
> > I would suggest two changes. You don't need the ide-cd driver at all, so
> > you can just say no to that in the kernel configuration. Leaving it as a
> > module does not hurt anything, but you are never using it.
>
> Yes I am; it's an IDE drive so I don't bother using SCSI emulation for
> CD-ROMs. It's the SCSI CD-ROM support I don't use much.
Okay, I worded that poorly. I guess that everytime you switch from
mounting a CDROM to burning a CDROM, you can unload the ide-cd driver
and load the ide-scsi driver. And then back again after you are finished
burning. But I guess I don't really understand why you would want to?
What is the ide-cd driver doing that the ide-scsi driver doesn't?
>
> > Also, if you
> > compile ide-scsi and sr into the kernel, rather than as modules, you do
> > not need any commands in modules.conf either.
>
> No, see above. And I always compile as many systems as modules as I can
> so that I can remove then from memory and then insert modified versions
> with debugging code if I spot something I don't understand etc. This way
> I don't have to reboot.
Obviously, if you are doing driver development, this is a good idea.
> > I am pretty sure you do need the sr driver.
>
> Nope; never use it. Yes, I know that I *CAN* use SCSI emulation for
> everything but I prefer not to. The interesting thing is I don't need
> the lilo parameter. Isn't it wonderful what you discover when you
> experiment?
Umm... I don't have any lilo parameter. Nor do I have any conf.modules
parameters (for SCSI/IDE support). As far as I know, the lilo parameter
is only required if ide-cd is compiled into the kernel. I don't have it
compiled at all, either into the kernel or as a module. As far as I
know, the lilo parameter doesn't have anything to do with the sr driver,
which I do have compiled into my kernel. Believe me, I have spent quite
a few hours experimenting with ide-scsi, but there is definitely a lot
more for me to learn, especially about modules.
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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Reply-To: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:52:05 GMT
it means u did not compile something into you're kernel.. an option(s) that
u maybe have overlooked.
i don't know what it is off the top of my head.
-Robert
"Michael Hohensee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm having problems properly compiling a kernel + modules for my RH 6.2
> system, running on an AMD T-bird with an Abit KA-7 motherboard. Before
> booting up for the first time, I had to recompile the kernel to prevent
> it from attempting to turn off the nonexistant PIII identifier number
> (which always resulted in a kernel panic). The only thing I changed in
> the default kernel configuration was the Processor Type & Features menu
> via 'make xconfig'. The machine now boots successfully, but is unable
> to insmod any of the modules in /lib/modules. It first runs into a huge
> sequence of depmod errors:
>
> <Snip>
> Sep 11 12:03:20 G22-71 rc.sysinit: Remounting root filesystem in
> read-write mode succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod:
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/coda.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/fat.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/hpfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/lockd.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/minix.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/ncpfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfs.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/nfsd.o
> Sep 11 12:03:24 G22-71 depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/romfs.o
> ...
> <Etc>
>
> It does this for every module in /lib/modules. So naturally:
>
> <Snip>
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 autofs: autofs startup succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: starting automounter version
> 3.1.4, path = /misc, maptype = file, mapname = /etc/auto.misc
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 random: Initializing random number generator
> succeeded
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/fs/autofs.o:
> insmod autofs failed
> Sep 11 12:03:43 G22-71 automount[382]: /misc: mount failed!
> ...
> <Etc>
>
> Interestingly enough, the system works fairly well, although anything
> which requires the loading of a module (autofs, lockd, or sound) doesn't
> work. Recompiling the modules doesn't appear to change anything, except
> perhaps to generate more unusable modules.
>
> Has anyone ever run into this problem before, or been able to
> successfully install and test Linux on a system like mine? (AMD T-Bird
> 700MHz KA-7 board) If so, how was it corrected, or which distribution
> did you use?
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> --
> Michael Hohensee
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Supported largest IDE hd size?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:06:52 -0700
Hi there,
you need Hedric's patch and kernel 2.2 should support 132GB disks.
(If I am not mistaken. But file size limit is still 2GB)
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/
Andrey
NTK wrote:
> What is the supported largest IDE harddrive size in the current linux
> 2.2.x?
>
> THanks
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Memory questions, Device questions; Remove LILO on RH6.2
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:12:37 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Which it is!
>
> append="mem=192m"
Why does this thread refuse to end!?!
(Note: Rhetorical Question, ie.
not worthy of a response that
would further string this out.)
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which cd-rw is best for linux red hat 6.2?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:19:18 -0700
Raminder Singh Gill wrote:
>
> hi guys which is the best cd-rw for linux red hat 6.2?
Definitely a matter of opinion. Unless you are going to use SCSI for
other purposes, I personally would stick with a good quality IDE drive.
I have had good luck with the Plextor (Plexwriter 8/4/32A), and have not
noticed others complaining about it. Usually a good sign.
> i've read the cd-rw how......but when i key in cdrecord --scanbus at the
> console i get an error saying unknown command......
>
> any idea where i can get cdrecord?
On the RH 6.2 CDROM. If you are loading packages using gnorpm, then look
in the Applications/Archiving section. Otherwise, if manually installing
packages, look in the RedHat/RPMS directory on the CDROM. While you are
at it, you will also need mkisofs (also on the CDROM), which creates the
CDROM images that will be burned into the CDRW.
Also, there is the GUI front end application to those called xcdroast,
although I don't use it so I can't comment on it. It does not appear to
be on the main Redhat CD, but instead on the "Applications" CD. Or just
search the web for it.
> also anyone have any insights into which models of cd-rws are good for
> linux??? i've tried looking for info from zdnet.com and cnet.com but
> their info is specific for windows not linux.
>
> from what i have read at the abovementioned sites, the newer cd-rw
> drives are hybrid drives that allow dvd playback and recording....is
> this suported under linux???
Don't know.
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: Jan Klaussner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Unresolved Symbols (RH 6.2 on AMD T-bird on Abit KA-7 board)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:32:15 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello!
Michael Hohensee wrote:
> (which always resulted in a kernel panic). The only thing I changed in
> the default kernel configuration was the Processor Type & Features menu
> via 'make xconfig'. The machine now boots successfully, but is unable
Does this mean you only typed 'make xconfig', changed the cpu and then
recompiled the kernel? Well, that is not enough, because the default
configuration _is not_ the configuration shipped with the RH linux. If
you want a usable kernel you must go through all points of the
configuration and adjust them to your system. If you also use modules,
make sure to do the 'make modules_install' after you compiled them.
btw, these 'unresolved symbols' also occur if you did not compile for
example autofs as module and the file is still in the modules
directory...
I hope I could help you
cu Jan
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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: promise controller ultra66 problems
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:31:14 GMT
Ken Siersma wrote:
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> I tried your suggestion, and I went into the RedHat 6.1 Installation,
> and installed every package. I formatted the /, /usr, and /tmp
> partitions (not /home, /usr2, etc). I tried to boot with my boot disk,
> and I got a kernel panic, can't mount root again. It never found my
> drive. Any suggestions?
> Thanks
> Ken
Until you add the line:
append="ide=0xeff1,0xefe7"
to your "lilo.conf" file. [This should probably go right after the line
"label=linux".]
And exec (as root):
/sbin/lilo
the only way you can boot is to type:
linux ide=0xeff1,0xefe7
at the LILO prompt.
You don't need to use the boot floppy.
JRT
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From: "kyle matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Still not all memory detected even with 'mem = '
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:04:18 GMT
ahhh, wasn't fully aware, makes sense tho
i guess it was just the syntax in which he used was wrong.
kyle
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8plr3u$97r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> kyle matteson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : you must make sure that the M in 64M is capital
>
> Whilst this is good practice, people got tired of telling other people
> that and changed the recent kernel codes to ignore the case instead.
>
> : append="mem=64M"
>
> : and then you must remember to run lilo afterwards to make the change
take
> : affect.
>
> Peter
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