Linux-Hardware Digest #3, Volume #14 Fri, 8 Dec 00 16:13:10 EST
Contents:
Processor(s) for Linux Desktop... (Jeffrey Hood)
Re: Audio System of Dell Inspirion 3200 (Tim)
K7V AC97 sound & Linux - please help (bgeer)
Re: Booting with 576KB conventional RAM ...or less. (Henrik Carlqvist)
Help neede BOOT from LAN ("Gal")
Logitech doesn't see the difference between a computer and an operating (Robert)
Re: Suse 7 & USB with LS120 superdisk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ECC RAM supported by Linux? (Rui-Tao Dong)
Re: ECC RAM supported by Linux? (CBFalconer)
game pad support (Robert)
Re: Adaptec 2930CU - supported? (Michael Meissner)
Re: Linux RH6.0 Not detecting Keyboard and Mouse ("Ashish Kasangottuwar")
Re: ECC RAM supported by Linux? (Michael Meissner)
Cobalt hardware (Scott)
Re: Linux with Abit KT7 & AMD Duron (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rgen_Tegn=E9r?=)
Re: Adaptec 2930CU - supported? (Ken)
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From: Jeffrey Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Processor(s) for Linux Desktop...
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 17:43:23 GMT
I need some "been there - done that" advice for putting together the best
bang-for-the-buck Linux desktop...
I am primarily going to be doing web development work, about half of the
time running under X using a java ide like JBuilder... (which has some
pretty hefty requirements... I am running it now on a P350 with 128 MB of
memory, and it isn't that great...) I would also like to be able to run
VMWare or Win4Lin to be able to run the few apps that I have to that only
run under Windows (I have to be able to run IE to check web sites...)
The main question is... Would I be better off with a single processor
like an AMD Athelon 800, or dual 500 or 600 mHz processors... I have
gotten advice on both sides...
Thanks in advance...
JH
--
Jeffrey Hood
HM Consulting, Inc.
jhood [you-know-why] at hmcon.com
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From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Audio System of Dell Inspirion 3200
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 12:55:51 -0500
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That did the trick! Thanks a lot, finally my laptop is talking
> (singing, playing music) to me...!
Congratulations! the Linux newsgroups are a fabulous resource for us
newbies.
> It's not 100% perfect, though: Before a sound starts playing you can
> hear a light "crack". Does anyone know how to "cure" that?
I suspect that the noise is just the sound server starting up. My
generic desktop does the same thing.
Enjoy!
Tim
--
Timothy J. Schutte
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bgeer)
Subject: K7V AC97 sound & Linux - please help
Date: 8 Dec 2000 10:57:13 -0700
My system:
K7V-T w/ 700 Tbird not overclocked & 128MB Crucial
Matrox G400 DH AGP
Tekram DC390F
Netgear FA310
No IDE disks or cdroms
I've installed Slackware 7.0 kernel 2.2.13 w/ Alsa sound drivers
0.5.9a & kernel 2.2.17 (with included OSS/FREE).
Using kernel 2.2.13 & Alsa I had sound mostly working for about a week
using these modules
snd-card-via686a 6908 0
snd-pcm 28952 0 [snd-card-via686a]
snd-timer 7648 0 [snd-pcm]
snd-ac97-codec 23904 0 [snd-card-via686a]
snd-mixer 23088 0 [snd-ac97-codec]
snd-mpu401-uart 1948 0 [snd-card-via686a]
snd-rawmidi 9048 0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device 3080 0 [snd-rawmidi]
snd 35276 1 [snd-card-via686a snd-pcm
snd-timer
snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore 2372 2 [snd]
"mostly" meaning aplay & play worked with .au's & .wav' & playmidi
looked like it was working but no sound came out. During this week I
performed several shutdowns; then on one startup the system locked up
tight while loading the snd-card-via686a module & it's done that ever
since, rebooting & power cycling hasn't helped. No messages, no
syslog, no ooops, no nada.
I installed kernel 2.2.17 with its OSS/FREE (downloaded from
kernel.org). It boots & runs fine except for no sound. Here's the
results:
bash-2.03# insmod -v soundcore
bash-2.03# insmod -v sound
bash-2.03# insmod -v uart401
bash-2.03# insmod -v sb irq=6 io=0x320 dma=1
./sb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>From dmesg
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen
1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.
Both kernels are compiled with pci quirks enabled.
I've done a lot of rtfm'ing & tried a lot of stuff without success.
I'd appreciate any clues, hints, or email discussion anyone's willing
to offer.
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From: Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting with 576KB conventional RAM ...or less.
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:45:25 +0100
Juan wrote:
> Installation went fine, but it was unable to boot the OS after
> finishing.
What kind of error message did yo get? Are you able to boot from a
floppy like "toms root & boot"?
> - Making a boot disk with the smp kernel installed in the
> machine.
Does that boot disk use LILO? If LILO is the problem you should make a
boot floppy without lilo bo doing:
cp /path/to/kernel/vmlinuz /dev/fd0
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/where_your_root_partition_lives
regards Henrik
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From: "Gal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help neede BOOT from LAN
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 11:37:28 -0800
Hi,
I need to create some sort of Jump-Start server and load systems over the
LAN. I do not have any floppy or cd-rom in those systems but have the BIOS
option of "boot from LAN". what I should do?
Thanks,
gal.
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From: Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,es.comp.os.linux,openbsd.misc,linux.debian.user,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows
Subject: Logitech doesn't see the difference between a computer and an operating
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 19:54:57 GMT
i'm tired of those logitech nazis,
go to http://www.logitech.com/cf/support/mousefiles.cfm
well you see they're offering software support here. as usual, operating
systems are limited to windoze and MacOS -- this isn't the point.
now lets take a look on the link:
windoze links point to mousefiles_pc.cfm
Ok, you get it right? windoze IS NOT an Operating System but a pc, so
i'm currently running Linux on my windoze box.
So they completely ignore what a PC is, do they know what is a Mac?
well perhaps they know what is a mac but you can take for sure they
ignore what MacOS is. This's as real as they provide support for MacOS
and claim to be providing support
for Macintosh.
hello! foolish ignorants! LinuxPPC exists! OpenBSD exists!
<insert your favourite Macintosh supported operating system here>
exists!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Suse 7 & USB with LS120 superdisk
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 20:02:43 +0000
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 13:22:45 +0100, "Conrad Emde"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Im Artikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
>> I have just bought SuSe Linux v7.0, & try as I may I cannot get the
>> Imation SuperDisk drive [which is connected via the USB port] to work.
>> It is the only device connected in this way. In the Award BIOS, the USB
>> bus is enabled. Windows 98 Device Manager lists it as follows:
>>
>> Disk Drives - Matshita LS-120 Ver5 00 SCSI Controllers -
>> Imation SuperDisk Bulk Storage Mini port driver
>> Universal Serial Bus Controllers -
>> Imation SuperDisk Bulk Storage class driver
>>
>> System: Mainboard - Gigabyte GA-5SMM Award BIOS v4.51PG Processor - AMD
>> P3 RAM - 128Mb SDRAM SuSE kernel 2.2.16
>>
>> On starting Suse Linux, I get this message ;
>>
>> Starting service USB; USB-HCI Failed! Maybe USB or USB IRQ is disabled
>> in BIOS! ENABLE IT!
>>
>> The USB IS enabled & works OK with windows.
>>
>> Can anyone help,please? Such as:- How can I get the USB disk drive to be
>> recognised by SuSe Linux? Could you give me a step by step guide as to
>> how to set it up? TIA.
>> --
>> Regards Geoff
>
>Do you have usb-uhci support as module or fixed in the kernel?
>SuSE tries to load usb-uhci everytime it boots up (it's in an
>init-skript) and if you don't have it compiled as a module that doesn't
>work. Recompile your kernel with usb-uhci (USB-Support),
>mass-storage-support(USB), Generic-Scsi, and scsi-disk support.That's my
>suggestion (worked with zip100Usb),it's on yours to try and read the
>Documentation to the modules first.
>Tell me, if it works.
>Conrad
Sorry I'm late getting back to you! OK here it is. I have recompiled
the kernel wtih the modules suggested installed.
I used :-
"make xconfigure" & selected the modules. After it had run I used:
make dep
make clean
make install
make modules
make modules_install
then I performed this step while still logged on as root
cd /etc/rc.d
chmod 755 init.d/*
cd rc3.d
ln -s ../init.d/modules.init 05modules.init
I then rebooted, but I still got this on boot up
USB-HCI Failed
usb-uhci Failed
usb-ohci Failed
Either the USB is disabled in the BIOS or the IRQ is disabled.
Enable it!
Well the USB is enabled (works OK in windows) but I cannot find
anywhere a reference to the USB IRQ!
BTW I can get it to load if I do an insmod!
--
Regards, Geoff
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Subject: Re: ECC RAM supported by Linux?
From: Rui-Tao Dong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 20:17:39 GMT
>>>>> "Nathan" == Nathan Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nathan> Does ECC RAM have any support from Linux? How are detected
Nathan> errors reported?
Works at least on AlphaLinux. Every error correction action is
logged. When un-correctable error occurs, the system halts. That is
what happened to my UDB suffering heat death.
--
Rui-Tao Dong ~{6-HpLN~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mission Viejo, California
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From: CBFalconer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ECC RAM supported by Linux?
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 20:30:21 GMT
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On 7 Dec 2000 16:50:06 -0600, Carlos staggered into the Black Sun and
> said:
> >In article <l62p09.6vn.ln@helix>, Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >>> Does ECC RAM have any support from Linux? How are detected errors
> >>> reported?
> >>
> >> The ECC works at a hardware level, not in conjunction with the OS. The
> >>question is "does your motherboard's memory controller support it, and is
> >>the support enabled in the BIOS?"
> >
> >While this is strictly speaking correct, it would be interesting to have
> >the memory controller report errors (corrected or detected but not
> >corrected) to the OS. This could signal a faulty memory chip, or at the
> >least warn the administrator or user that the system is becoming
> >unreliable... Why isn't there support to read these errors?
>
> Suppose the memory that holds the kernel segment that responds to memory
> errors goes bad? ("Kernel panic: Error in error handler!") When you
> set up a system to report faults, it is best to make sure the faults
> being detected can't bugger the reporting system--which means in this
> case, putting the ECC error handler in ROM.
>
> I've heard of ECC controllers being able to store failure info in the
> motherboard's NVRAM, which the OS could certainly read. Don't know the
> specifics though.
If the failure happens in the reporting area, and is
non-correctible, you are right. However this should be very
rare. The more important thing is to get reports of corrections
successfully performed, and where. Consistent errors in a
particular memory area then indicate incipient total failure, and
can help in maintenance.
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From: Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: game pad support
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 20:33:56 GMT
Hi folks
I'm running SuSE and bought a standard 6 buttons pad. not YaST1 nor
YaST2 neither the
manual speak bout configuring game devices. Some programs look for
/dev/js0 without
finding a working device. Gotta recompile the kernel or just a simple
configuration?
how?
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Subject: Re: Adaptec 2930CU - supported?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Dec 2000 15:35:44 -0500
Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I have looked in the Hardware-HOWTO's and still can't figure this out.
> >> Does anyone know if the 2930CU is supported under Linux? I believe it
> >> is the AIC-7859 (PCI). Under the lists, it is not listed under PCI,
> >> but under on-board PCI, it lists AIC-785x. I ask because I tried to
> >> boot to the Debian 2.1 CD and during the install process, it says that
> >> I have no hard drives attached, though I have three SCSI drives.
My messages list:
(scsi1) <Adaptec AIC-7860 Ultra SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 0/10/0
(scsi1) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 3/255 SCBs
(scsi1) Cables present (Int-50 YES, Ext-50 NO)
(scsi1) Downloading sequencer code... 422 instructions downloaded
> > It should be supported by the aic7xxx driver...
>
> Thanks. I guess the problem is that I can't get it to load the
> driver. Nothing I try with the 2.1 CD works, and I tied a Red Hat 6.1
> CD we have at work and it says somthing like "Loading aic7xxx" and
> just sits there, I guess locked up. Ugh. I'm downloading the Debian
> 2.2 ISO right now. Hopefully it will make a difference. Any
> suggestions on getting it to load the driver? Even a boot floppy
> would be okay at this point. I hate the feeling that someone doesn't
> want me to load Linux.... :)
I suspect either your kernel is too old (Red Hat 6.2 and 7.0 definately work
for my 2930U's), your scsi chain is improperly terminated, or possibly you have
more than one device with the same scsi id. I've definately seen hangs with
improper termination (which is the bane of scsi). For the 2930U, it must be
active termination on each of the buses used (fortunately there isn't wide
support, so you avoid several usual problems). As always, termination must be
at the end of the scsi chain, and either an explicit terminator, a cable that
provides termination, or possibly a device that has termination enabled. Note,
my experience has been to never trust scsi devices to properly terminate the
chain, and to always provide explicit termination. In the past:
http://www.scsifaq.org
has provided a better FAQ for scsi questions than the HOWTO, but it doesn't
seem to be on the air as I write this message.
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PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
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From: "Ashish Kasangottuwar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux RH6.0 Not detecting Keyboard and Mouse
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:36:58 -0800
I tried it, I specified it in Xconfigurator as US natural Keyborad, and
Mouse as
PS/2. But Actually i have a USB mouse, may be its where the actual problem
may be. But i whats wrong with keyboard....
Ashish
Brent Borg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:90qie0$f8l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> man Xconfigurator et al...
>
> In article <Hc0Y5.516600$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have installed RH6.0 with dual boot with Win98. It's working fine on
> > the command prompt. But when I use startx to go into Graphical
> > Interface, it is not able to detect keyboard and mouse. Please
> > recommend..The monitor settings and resolution are fine. Its taking me
> > in Gnome Window Manager but I am not able to interact with the computer.
> > I have MS Natural Keyboard
> > and a serial mouse
> >
> > Thanks Ashish
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Subject: Re: ECC RAM supported by Linux?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Dec 2000 15:41:53 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carlos) writes:
> In article <l62p09.6vn.ln@helix>, Steve Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Does ECC RAM have any support from Linux?
> >> How are detected errors reported?
> >
> > The ECC works at a hardware level, not in conjunction with the OS. The
> >question is "does your motherboard's memory controller support it, and is
> >the support enabled in the BIOS?"
> >
> >steve
>
>
> While this is strictly speaking correct, it would be interesting to have
> the memory controller report errors (corrected or detected but not
> corrected) to the OS. This could signal a faulty memory chip, or at the
> least warn the administrator or user that the system is becoming
> unreliable... Why isn't there support to read these errors?
I've had ECC memory go bad that Linux would refuse to boot (but Lose98 booted
fine, obviously not caring if pages were corrupted). So from that datapoint,
it looks like ECC support is at least enabled in Linux.
--
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PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
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From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cobalt hardware
Date: 08 Dec 2000 20:49:13 GMT
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Email off list if interested.
Regards,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rgen_Tegn=E9r?=)
Subject: Re: Linux with Abit KT7 & AMD Duron
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 23:09:52 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joachim Backhaus wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I want to build a system with an AMD Duron processor
>& an Abit KT 7 motherboard running under linux.
>
>Does anyone has some experience wether the Abit KT 7 works under linux?
>
No experience yet, but I just ordered such a box after the
seller claimed 'no problems' with linux. It should arrive
next week, then we will know the value of that promise.
--
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Message created with 98% recycled electrons.
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From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adaptec 2930CU - supported?
Date: 8 Dec 2000 19:23:32 GMT
Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My chain is fine AFAIK. I have loaded DOS 6.22, Win95, and NT 4.0 and
>> all work fine.
> For M$ values of "fine." ;)
I know. It almost hurt to say that. :)
> Well, the best I can tell you is that I *know* the card is supported, and
> by the aic7xxx module. So I wish you luck.
Yeah, I made Debian 2.2 boot floppies and it found it fine when I
specified it. I found on the Debian site that the 2.1 boot had
problems with aic7xxx. I will try an image they point to if I can't
get a copy of 2.2.
thanks again for your help.
-Ken
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